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jnTexas
07-01-2009, 04:41 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529709,00.html?test=latestnews

The child was strangled by the snake overnight after it escaped from its aquarium at a home in Oxford, about 50 miles northwest of Orlando in central Florida, according to Sumter County Sheriff's Lt. Steve Binegar

Jaren Ashley Hare, 23, shared the home with Shaiunna and Hare's boyfriend Charles Jason Darnell, 32, deputies said.

Darnell told investigators that he put the snake in a bag inside its aquarium Tuesday night. But when he woke up the morning, the snake was gone. He found it wrapped around the girl in her crib.

Darnell stabbed the snake repeatedly to free the little girl, but the toddler had been bitten on the head, MyFOXTampaBay.com reported.

poor baby must have sufferd being squeezed to death. You would think she would've been screaming?

KT Can
07-01-2009, 04:46 PM
How awful. I hate snakes. I hate people who have these kinds of snakes in homes with children. Poor baby. Simply frightening.

amandab
07-01-2009, 04:48 PM
poor baby must have sufferd being squeezed to death. You would think she would've been screaming?

It's awful, but I imagine if you can't breathe, you can't scream either.

Poor sweet baby...

VespaElf
07-01-2009, 05:04 PM
NEGLIGENCE & IGNORANCE is to blame for this.I can bet you a million dollars this snake wasnt in a secured habitat(Im not buying the snake was in a bag inside the aquarium & somehow got out story).This was also a snake that had no business being in a home with small children.I had a Ball Python that I adored as did my older kids but the bigger she got,albeit slowly over time,the less appropriate she was as a pet(which made me re-think the idea of keeping them as pets in general!)& she got ,through no fault of her own,too "strong"for me to handle(although she was still good natured) so I had to re-home her.Snakes are not for everyone & quite honestly probably not meant to be pets!! This was so tragic & so easily preventable! :(

Kateyes
07-01-2009, 05:13 PM
I hate snakes too. As far as I am concerned the only good snake is a dead one!! I hope this poor baby passed out before suffering too much. God bless her.

southcitymom
07-01-2009, 05:22 PM
I love snakes, but this is so sad.

LaLaw2000
07-01-2009, 05:29 PM
This just INFURIATES me! I cannot believe this two year old child died due to the absolute negligence of this mother and live-in boyfriend. Just another case of the mother putting a boyfriend ahead of her child. SHE let the boyfriend have the snake there.

There should be hard charges for the both of them! This was a vicious, needless, and senseless death of this little girl. And for what? Because the boyfriend wanted to have this dangerous snake in the house and was not even secured.

:furious::furious::furious:

arielilane
07-01-2009, 05:56 PM
Absolutely preventable...:mad:Strange that the boyfriend Darnell wasn't strangled...or the mother?

nanny1
07-01-2009, 06:30 PM
Why on earth would anyone have a Python in the same house as a toddler ?

mydailyopinions
07-01-2009, 06:47 PM
I understand that some people have a love of snakes..myself...no way in hell! I am scared to death of them to the point that if they are crossing the road in front of me while driving, I pick my feet up off the floorboard.
Its a shame that a lack of priority in this case has caused the life of a child. People need to wake up everyday and tell themselves that "it could very well happen to me"
Shame..just a pure shame!

LancelotLink
07-02-2009, 11:08 AM
I am so jaded. I am having alot of trouble believing the story.

amandab
07-02-2009, 11:19 AM
Seeing the faces of both the mother and her boyfriend (I think the pics were on Foxnews.com) - they are both in terrible pain over this. I believe this was an accident. Preventable and stupid, yes, but an accident.

Vegas Bride
07-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Both adults should have charges brought. Poor baby may she RIP!
When will people understand that babies need to be protected and that they take presidence over any other relationship?

As a side note, years ago a girl I knew had moved in with a guy, looking back and understanding things better I can see that she had a very bad homelife as a child and ended up doing a lot of things most kids dont. Anyway she had a baby with this guy, he also had a dog, a mean dog. When he wouldn't get rid of the dog she chose to save her baby and left him. I wish all mothers would think of their babies first!

VB

Vegas Bride
07-02-2009, 11:36 AM
Seeing the faces of both the mother and her boyfriend (I think the pics were on Foxnews.com) - they are both in terrible pain over this. I believe this was an accident. Preventable and stupid, yes, but an accident.

I feel differently about this, to me an accident is walking across a floor and your foot slips on some water you didn't notice was there. What happened here is like setting up a blanket for a picnic in the middle of a busy freeway, thinking everyone can just go around you, you chose the spot because you like the view.

VB

whiteangora
07-02-2009, 12:20 PM
I understand that some people have a love of snakes..myself...no way in hell! I am scared to death of them to the point that if they are crossing the road in front of me while driving, I pick my feet up off the floorboard.
Its a shame that a lack of priority in this case has caused the life of a child. People need to wake up everyday and tell themselves that "it could very well happen to me"
Shame..just a pure shame!
bold,me
Thats the same thing I do, not so much here, but in FL there were lots of snakes in the road.
When this guy called 911, he said "the stupid snake got out and killed the baby". Sorry to say this, but it was not the snake that was stupid here.

amandab
07-02-2009, 12:44 PM
I feel differently about this, to me an accident is walking across a floor and your foot slips on some water you didn't notice was there. What happened here is like setting up a blanket for a picnic in the middle of a busy freeway, thinking everyone can just go around you, you chose the spot because you like the view.

VB

Point taken. I guess what I meant was that I'm not getting anything hinky from the situation.

Openmind
07-02-2009, 01:00 PM
bold,me
Thats the same thing I do, not so much here, but in FL there were lots of snakes in the road.
When this guy called 911, he said "the stupid snake got out and killed the baby". Sorry to say this, but it was not the snake that was stupid here.

Absolutely agree.

This is going to sound very self righteous, but people need to grow and make smart choices. I know their living arrangement had nothing to do with this child's death, but I am so tired of women living with boyfriends and vice versa, and then some child ends up dead, missing, or badly hurt. I know this could have happened if they had been long time married, but to me this lack of commitment indicates a serious lack of maturity and accountability?

Vegas Bride
07-02-2009, 01:29 PM
Reading the article again, it mentions that earlier in the evening the snake had gotten out, so when it got out again and killed the baby that was the second time it had escaped. It looks like they had been given a warning that it could happen, why in the world did they think it wouldn't happen again? Sorry but if I knew a huge snake had gotten out earlier, I sure would not have been sleeping peacefully through the night while my baby was in the same home as that snake!

VB

teonspaleprincess
07-02-2009, 01:51 PM
This was exactly why I was terrified when my sister's dumb a** boyfriend bought an Anaconda. I sent her every story I could find about snakes killing children and worried her to death until they finally got rid of it. May this baby R.I.P.

VespaElf
07-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Just re-read more detailed article & yes charges should be brought cos as I said the snake probably wasnt in a secure habitat......A DOG CRATE IS NOT A SNAKE HABITAT! Snakes CANNOT be in a cage or ANYTHING with openings!!! WTF?? How much do we want to guess that the "bag" was a pillowcase.The bigger a snake gets the more they want to "wander" & they are VERY crafty & clever.This guy is a dumba$$ & should be charged with negligence.When my snake outgrew her tank(which they will do.........very expensive to continously buy new habitats) & before I had a chance to get her a new tank,in desperation,I held her overnight in a plastic storage bin with a locking lid! she had plenty of air holes in the lid but I could not, for her safety or ours, leave her in an unsecure tank..............WHY WAS THIS SNAKE IN A DOG CAGE AFTER ALREADY ESCAPING AND WHY ISNT THIS GUY BEING CHARGED???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

ziggy
07-02-2009, 02:18 PM
People are so, SO stupid. Snakes are also pretty expensive aren't they? You have to live with roomates but you can afford a big snake?

No snakes in small children households. Needs to be a law - and I'm the last person to want a damn law for everything, but come on! What is common sense to us is lost on others but the kids really do need to be protected.

oh_gal
07-02-2009, 03:47 PM
I found it odd that a)bf didn't seem overly upset in the 911 call; and b)he said "the dumb snake" killed her...I guess you had to hear it, but he sounded like an 8 year old.

I have a 2 year old, and it just makes my heart hurt to think of what that poor baby went through, whether it was the snake, or not.

VespaElf
07-02-2009, 04:19 PM
:woohoo: HES GOING TO BE CHARGED!!!!!!!!:woohoo:

Not much but for now hes going to be charged for not having the permit & for failing to have the snake in a habitat with a lock PER THE LAW! Manslaughter and other charges could come as the investigation develops!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529835,00.html?mrp


This man had NO business having an 8+ foot snake in the house ESPECIALLY A HOUSE WITH A BABY LIVING IN IT!
He didnt have the knowledge or finances(or common sense)to own ANY type of pet,let alone this snake........I know being stupid isnt a crime but Im glad they can get this guy on SOMETHING (& yes he sounded like an 8 year old on the 911 tape.........WTF is with him blaming the snake?? :behindbar

*~Aimee~*
07-02-2009, 06:02 PM
Just re-read more detailed article & yes charges should be brought cos as I said the snake probably wasnt in a secure habitat......A DOG CRATE IS NOT A SNAKE HABITAT! Snakes CANNOT be in a cage or ANYTHING with openings!!! WTF?? How much do we want to guess that the "bag" was a pillowcase.The bigger a snake gets the more they want to "wander" & they are VERY crafty & clever.This guy is a dumba$$ & should be charged with negligence.When my snake outgrew her tank(which they will do.........very expensive to continously buy new habitats) & before I had a chance to get her a new tank,in desperation,I held her overnight in a plastic storage bin with a locking lid! she had plenty of air holes in the lid but I could not, for her safety or ours, leave her in an unsecure tank..............WHY WAS THIS SNAKE IN A DOG CAGE AFTER ALREADY ESCAPING AND WHY ISNT THIS GUY BEING CHARGED???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Darnell, the snake's owner, reportedly told investigators he put the python in a bag before putting it into a glass cage Tuesday night.
http://www.dailycommercial.com/localnews/story/070209python

Authorities removed the snake from the small house, bordered by cow pastures, Wednesday afternoon after obtaining a search warrant. Once outside the python was placed in a bag, which was put inside a dog crate. It was still alive
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529709,00.html?test=latestnews

The authorities put it in a dog crate not the owner. I agree this is a sad senseless case. No reason for a baby to die.

azwriter
07-02-2009, 06:12 PM
A pet Python?
Is that possible?

azwriter
07-02-2009, 06:16 PM
This was exactly why I was terrified when my sister's dumb a** boyfriend bought an Anaconda. I sent her every story I could find about snakes killing children and worried her to death until they finally got rid of it. May this baby R.I.P.

When you say "got rid of it," I'm hoping you mean rid of the boyfriend.

Tonia
07-02-2009, 08:22 PM
Wow! Burm's get really big,they make purses out of these suckers. It's not the snakes fault,it's the people that own them. People do not realize how expensive they are to feed and take care of. They get to big or they can't afford to feed them and they let them go. The snake must have found the child to be a threat or food. I read where they let the little girl hug it and hold it also.

The Humane Society of the United States said including Wednesday's death, at least 12 people have been killed in the U.S. by pet pythons since 1980, including five children.
You also have to have a permit in Florida to have these kind of snakes and he will most likely be charged for that also. This crazy nut had a 6 ft. boa to. What gives? Are people really this dumb? When a snake constricts it bites something first then wraps the body around the prey. I cannot imagine a snake thinking it could eat a child/or anything that size. The jaws will open very wide but IMO not that wide. In his mug shot the guy is smiling WTH?

http://www.wesh.com/2009/0702/19929758_240X180.jpg

Deputies said negligence charges are pending, and some drugs were found inside the home after the incident. Darnell did not have a permit to own a python.

The Department of Children and Families also confirmed Thursday that it looked into allegations of marijuana in the home of the 2-year-old girl who was strangled by a pet python Wednesday.

The investigation began in May 2009 and closed on June 12. During that time, DCF says its workers went into the home, photographed the large snake and decided it did not need to be removed from the home.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19925262/detail.html?treets=orl&tml=orl_break&ts=T&tmi=orl_break_1_01530107022009

Poor little baby.

Burm's have to have heat to survive. I am wondering if the snake found warmth next to the child and the child startled it somehow by turning over and the snake reacted.

teonspaleprincess
07-02-2009, 09:00 PM
When you say "got rid of it," I'm hoping you mean rid of the boyfriend.

I wish! :furious: He is one class A *sshole. My sisters house looks like a zoo with pit bulls, scorpians, spiders, lizards, at least a dozen fish tanks with piranha and eels and other fish, frogs, snapping turtles, snakes, etc. Creeps me out! I worry about my niece pulling a tank over and getting cut or getting bit by something all the time.

Annie
07-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Tonia, I went to your link but didn't quote it because it was long. I agree with the people who commented on that article. Why was that man smiling? It makes me sick to see that big smile on his face when a precious little girl is dead due to his actions.

ThePalmettoState
07-02-2009, 10:32 PM
Why is he smiling? Poor baby what a horrible way to die.

southcitymom
07-02-2009, 10:39 PM
Who knows why he's smiling in this mug shot? The article says he started stabbing the snake when he found out what it had done. I'm hard-pressed to believe he's happy this child died.

daisy7
07-02-2009, 10:41 PM
Why is he smiling? Poor baby what a horrible way to die.

Was that a mug shot taken today?

southcitymom
07-02-2009, 10:46 PM
Was that a mug shot taken today?

That's the thing - we don't know. I promise you though that the average newspaper wouldn't have the first problem running an old mugshot they may have dug up on him.

ThePalmettoState
07-02-2009, 10:49 PM
That's the thing - we don't know. I promise you though that the average newspaper wouldn't have the first problem running an old mugshot they may have dug up on him.

You know I was just so struck by the picture and this story so breaks my heart that it did not click that this may be an old mugshot.

DotsEyes
07-02-2009, 11:09 PM
Snakes are beautiful creatures and people are idiots.

If not the snake, then this child would probably have been guzzling dangerous chemicals under the kitchen sink, left in a hot car, playing in the highway or left alone in a pool.

Openmind
07-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Who knows why he's smiling in this mug shot? The article says he started stabbing the snake when he found out what it had done. I'm hard-pressed to believe he's happy this child died.


I am sure it is an old mug shot which is troubling in itself. You have to wonder why anyone would be grinning this happily as they are having their mug shot taken.

I think the boyfriend was sincerely distraught and tried to save the baby, but the ignorance in all this is staggering. I hope the other children are with someone that truly cares they are secure and comforted. How scary this must be for them?

Shelby77
07-02-2009, 11:57 PM
Well, DCF may have been looking into allegations of marijuana, but he was charged with possession of cocaine and marijuana on June 29, 2009 according to Sumter County records, link here

https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/do/personCaseSearch?county=60

If the link doesn't work, just click on new search and type in his name...

And that was stemming from a May 22, 2009 offense

laura08
07-03-2009, 01:06 AM
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=98958&cat=14

LancelotLink
07-03-2009, 08:35 AM
CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE TEXT DATE PHASE
1 893136a POSSESSION OF COCAINE 06/29/2009 Prosecutor: Filed
2 893136a POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE 06/29/2009 Prosecutor: Filed
3 893136b POSSESSION CANNABIS 20 GRAMS OR LESS 06/29/2009 Prosecutor: Filed
4 8931471 POSSESSION AND OR USE OF PARAPHERNALIA 06/29/2009 Prosecutor: Filed
5 322342a DRIVING W/LICENSE SUSP./REV. 1ST CONVICTION 06/29/2009 Prosecutor: Filed
[DEFENDANT=DARNELL, CHARLES JASON ]
[JUDGE=HALLMAN, WILLIAM H III]
LAST DOCKET DATE=06/29/2009

LancelotLink
07-03-2009, 09:26 AM
:woohoo: HES GOING TO BE CHARGED!!!!!!!!:woohoo:

Not much but for now hes going to be charged for not having the permit & for failing to have the snake in a habitat with a lock PER THE LAW! Manslaughter and other charges could come as the investigation develops!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529835,00.html?mrp


This man had NO business having an 8+ foot snake in the house ESPECIALLY A HOUSE WITH A BABY LIVING IN IT!
He didnt have the knowledge or finances(or common sense)to own ANY type of pet,let alone this snake........I know being stupid isnt a crime but Im glad they can get this guy on SOMETHING (& yes he sounded like an 8 year old on the 911 tape.........WTF is with him blaming the snake?? :behindbar

The 911 call concerned me as well. Instead of calling for an ambulance or help, he announces to the dispatch that the baby is dead and proceeds to give what I believe is an alibi. (The stupid snake did it. In my head I hear "My dumb b*itch snake did it) I've been wrong before and this is so tragic, I almost did not post my suspicions.
I am interested in hearing any autopsy reports on this poor child and I hope LE is investigating this guy.

southcitymom
07-03-2009, 09:42 AM
I am sure it is an old mug shot which is troubling in itself. You have to wonder why anyone would be grinning this happily as they are having their mug shot taken.

I think the boyfriend was sincerely distraught and tried to save the baby, but the ignorance in all this is staggering. I hope the other children are with someone that truly cares they are secure and comforted. How scary this must be for them?

I am absolutely deranged enough to grin in a mugshot (I've never been in that position before thank goodness, but I have real issues with authority and, depending on the crime, I'd love to send the police the message that they aren't bothering me one bit by smiling like I'd just won the lottery). I doubt I'm the only one with this makeup as I've seen quite a few mugshots of smiling suspects (usually after being arrested for drug/alcohol possession - and some are probably still happily high).

I too think the boyfriend was seriously distraught. I too think you are playing with fire to have an animal (even a dog) in a house with a small child. My prayers for this family - this is a very sad story.

MCDRAW
07-03-2009, 11:42 AM
This just INFURIATES me! I cannot believe this two year old child died due to the absolute negligence of this mother and live-in boyfriend. Just another case of the mother putting a boyfriend ahead of her child. SHE let the boyfriend have the snake there.

There should be hard charges for the both of them! This was a vicious, needless, and senseless death of this little girl. And for what? Because the boyfriend wanted to have this dangerous snake in the house and was not even secured.

:furious::furious::furious:


JMO But if there are charges against the two of them for allowing the snake to be there, then there needs to be charges for the DCF workers, that didn't see any reason for the snake to be removed on June 12. The DCF workers should have known better. They were there looking into the welfare of the child. Shouldn't they have been worried about the snake being in the home? There are people that do not see danger in anything, I have a brother and sister that are that way, DCF should have pointed out the danger.IMO

southcitymom
07-03-2009, 02:55 PM
JMO But if there are charges against the two of them for allowing the snake to be there, then there needs to be charges for the DCF workers, that didn't see any reason for the snake to be removed on June 12. The DCF workers should have known better. They were there looking into the welfare of the child. Shouldn't they have been worried about the snake being in the home? There are people that do not see danger in anything, I have a brother and sister that are that way, DCF should have pointed out the danger.IMO

This is a great point, McDraw!

ShawnHS
07-13-2009, 12:25 PM
I analyzed the audio of Charles Darnell from the 911 call for Reverse Speech. Reverse Speech is messages from our unconscious mind embedded backward into speech. These messages can be found amongst the gibberish by reversing audio recordings.


911 Call:
Our stupid snake got out in the middle of the night, and strangled the baby.
I'm going to live with what I did. (http://www.backwardstate.com/im_going_to_live_with_what_i_did.mp3)

...our snake. We have a Burmese python, and she's about twelve foot long. She got out of the cage last night, and got into the baby's crib and strangled her to death.
I released it out. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_released_it_out.mp3)

It is only two reversals but they do raise questions in my mind. His first reversal suggests that he did something, not that the snake has done something.

In the second reversal it appears he is the one that let the snake out of the cage, not that the snake got out on its own.

Is it possible he could have intentionally manipulated the snake into killing the toddler while she slept? The initial coroners report indicated she was asphyxiated. From what I've read it doesn't indicate there were marks of constriction from the snake. It is reported there were a couple of bite marks on the child's head and face. These snakes will bite the victim then coil around it to suffocate it. I'm far from a snake expert, and correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I know is once a snake like that bites they don't let go to strike again. Could Darnell have suffocated the child, and then agitated the snake so that it would bite the child making it appear that the snake attacked the child to kill her? There are no reports that this snake has escaped from its cage before. But it does seem by Darnell's story the snake got out once (he happened to get out of bed to find it had escaped), he put it back into its cage and it got out again the same night. If the snake were in the habit of escaping wouldn't this be on record with the DCF?

One thing that stood out to me was he said he stabbed the snake several times to get it to let go of the child. I have a couple of problems with that. First if my child was being suffocated by a snake and I had the frame of mind to go get a knife to use on the snake I would not be stabbing at it risking stabbing my child too. I would cut the snakes head off. Secondly I may not even leave my child at that point to go get a knife. I would like to believe I would try to break its neck. By the way, it appears the stab wound(s) to the snake were not life threatening, the snake is recovering.

It was his snake, not his daughter. Could he have cared more about the snake than his girlfriend's daughter? I'm not a violent person, but I will do anything to protect my kids. If it were me at some point, during or after the attack, the snake would be dead. Leaving it with non life threatening wounds would not be an option. After reading the previous posts it appears Darnell was arrested for drugs 2 days prior to his girlfriend's daughter being killed. Is it possible that the child's death was some sort of retaliation to his girlfriend?

Between the speech reversals of Charles Darnell, and his story, things don't seem to be adding up to me.

jnTexas
07-13-2009, 01:02 PM
JMO But if there are charges against the two of them for allowing the snake to be there, then there needs to be charges for the DCF workers, that didn't see any reason for the snake to be removed on June 12. The DCF workers should have known better. They were there looking into the welfare of the child. Shouldn't they have been worried about the snake being in the home? There are people that do not see danger in anything, I have a brother and sister that are that way, DCF should have pointed out the danger.IMO

Wonder if DCF knew the guy should've had a permit for the snake??

MCDRAW
07-13-2009, 01:17 PM
Wonder if DCF knew the guy should've had a permit for the snake??


Who knows but personally I think they should have. If not, I think they should have said, Hey it's dangerous to have a pet snake in a house with children. But I am one of those people that see danger in everything. I drive my brother and sister crazy, they just can't see the danger. And they think I am crazy.

Tonia
08-24-2009, 10:25 PM
2 arrested in python cases

The Sumter County couple that primarily cared for the 2-year-old girl found strangled to death in her crib by their pet Burmese python in July was arrested Monday on charges of manslaughter, third-degree murder and child abuse.

The two are each being held on $35,000 bond, said Lt. Bobby Caruthers, a spokesman from the Sumter County Sheriff's office.

Third-degree murder and manslaughter both carry maximum sentences of 15 years in prison while child abuse carries a maximum sentence off five years behind bars.



Hare and Darnell will next face arraignment. All court proceedings will occur in Sumter County.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090824/ARTICLES/908249939?Title=2-arrested-in-python-cases-#

ShawnHS
08-25-2009, 08:43 AM
The reverse speech analysis of Charles Darnell indicates that the snake did not get out on its own, Darnell intentionally released it. If you just look at the two known reversals they tell a different story than he was saying in the forward to the 911 operator.

It would be interesting to analyze police interrogations of Darnell to what can be further revealed through his reverse speech. Based upon his reversals alone the charges seem appropriate for at least him.

The article does not give details as to what evidence police have to make the charges. Right now he is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court, but for now it appears that the use of Reverse Speech has proven to be accurate as far as Darnell being responsible for the actions which lead to the child's death.

I'm going to live with what I did. (http://www.backwardstate.com/im_going_to_live_with_what_i_did.mp3) I released it out. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_released_it_out.mp3)

Kat
08-25-2009, 05:01 PM
link to 911 call:

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=6477106&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,542441,00.html

If it's been posted please ignore.

Valleyboy
06-15-2010, 12:11 PM
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Court Case Continued Again...
The pre-trial case for Jaren Ashley Hare and Charles Darnell on the charges of manslaughter, murder in the third degree, and child neglect has been continued to June 16.

Charles Darnell entered a plea of guilty on March 1 for the following (he was arrested on August 7, 2009): sale of cocaine (sentenced to 1 year, 6 months), possession of cocaine (sentenced to 1 year, 6 months), unlawful use of two-way communication device (senteced to 1 year, 6 months), and use of motor vehicle or shop for drugs (his driver's license is revoked for 2 years). The sentences are to be served concurrently and he received credit for his time that he has served so far in jail.

zelmajane
06-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Court Case Continued Again...
The pre-trial case for Jaren Ashley Hare and Charles Darnell on the charges of manslaughter, murder in the third degree, and child neglect has been continued to June 16.

Charles Darnell entered a plea of guilty on March 1 for the following (he was arrested on August 7, 2009): sale of cocaine (sentenced to 1 year, 6 months), possession of cocaine (sentenced to 1 year, 6 months), unlawful use of two-way communication device (senteced to 1 year, 6 months), and use of motor vehicle or shop for drugs (his driver's license is revoked for 2 years). The sentences are to be served concurrently and he received credit for his time that he has served so far in jail.


He just sounds like a winner.

Valleyboy
06-30-2010, 09:03 PM
Pre-trial Case Continued One More Time
On June 16, the court continued the case for Charles Darnell and Ashley Hare to September 8, 2010.

Texas Mist
01-01-2011, 11:08 AM
The pet python that strangled a 2-year-old Sumter County girl 18 months ago hadn't been fed in about a month and had escaped its tank 10 times since its last meal — a road-kill squirrel, according to newly released documents.

Gypsy, the 8-foot-6-inch albino Burmese python, was most likely hungry when it escaped its terrarium and attacked Shaianna Hare in a crib, according to investigative documents examined by the Orlando Sentinel.

A review of reports in the July 1, 2009, tragedy show that the child's mother and the mother's boyfriend had kept the snake in violation of wildlife rules and apparently could not afford to feed it.
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The albino python, bought at a flea market about six years ago for $200, slithered through the doublewide trailer to the child's room after escaping from a mesh laundry bag with a baseball-sized hole in it.

much more here -- **warning - there's a picture of the huge snake** for those who may not like snake pictures

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-killer-python-hungry-20110101,0,1922601,full.story

Tuffy
01-01-2011, 11:16 AM
They need to pass a law banning these "pets." They're an invasive species, and are capable of killing people. They cannot be trained or domesticated.

Blondie in Spokane
01-01-2011, 03:55 PM
I am relieved to see that these two will be prosecuted....this just makes me so sad....that poor little girl didn't stand a chance. And these "adults" sound like a couple of idiots no matter how you call it. They are fit to care for neither children or pets. Grrrr....how infuriating.

Valleyboy
01-01-2011, 04:04 PM
the trial for Charles Darnell and Ashley Hare has been continued until February 15, 2011. At that point it will be a year and half and countless delays since the tragic death of a 2 year old girl. Justice for this little girl may not be swift in Sumter County, but I hope in the end the trial will be fair and justice hopefully will prevail!

panthera
01-01-2011, 04:59 PM
They need to pass a law banning these "pets." They're an invasive species, and are capable of killing people. They cannot be trained or domesticated.

It is also grossly unfair to any animal, be it a cat, dog, or even this snake, to be brought into a household where the animal cannot be properly fed or cared for. In this case, if these people couldn't (or just didn't) even feed the snake, who knows what kind of care the child was receiving. I am glad both of them are being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for their daughter's death. :behindbar MOO

southcitymom
01-01-2011, 06:41 PM
Wow.

We just got a snake today...a California King. This story is beyond sad.

Nancy2441
01-01-2011, 06:46 PM
This story really p!sses me off. Negligent parents...negligent pet owners.
:banghead:

Valleyboy
02-15-2011, 09:00 PM
Any update because they were supposed to appear in court today..??

Valleyboy
03-11-2011, 07:54 PM
Latest update on this case.

The latest on Charles Darnell and Jaren Ashley Hare is that the pre-trial has been re-scheduled for April 19, 2011

peeples
03-11-2011, 08:18 PM
Did they ever say what happened to the poor starved snake??? :(

sunflowerchick
03-11-2011, 09:21 PM
***snipped***

I read where they let the little girl hug it and hold it also.

The Humane Society of the United States said including Wednesday's death, at least 12 people have been killed in the U.S. by pet pythons since 1980, including five children.


I just read this story and needed to comment here. Snakes get a bad rep for this very reason, but this has nothing to do with the snake. This is SOLELY about the irresponsibility of the pet owners. First of all, I have known several people who have had a large snake in a house with small children as well as other small animals. Although snakes cannot be purely domesticated like a dog or a cat, they can be docile and tame, and they can make safe pets if cared for properly. If they are enclosed in a secure environment and fed as needed, they don't pose a danger to anyone, because they will NOT escape randomly. The people I know do NOT let their children hold the snake, (ETA)mainly because the rapid movements of a child can startle them. Even if they did scare, they still would most likely only strike and back away, not constrict.

Also, consider that if only 12 people have been killed by pet pythons since 1980, more people have died from vicious dog attacks. In my opinion, a poorly trained and unsupervised dog is far more dangerous than a pet snake. This is just a sad case of people being irresponsible.

Valleyboy
04-29-2011, 11:23 AM
A date has finally been set for the Jury trial of Charles Darnell and Jaren Ashley Hare - July 11, 2011 at 8:30am. They are both being tried on one count of Manslaughter, one count of Murder in the Third Degree, and one count of Child Neglect.

Valleyboy
07-11-2011, 02:16 PM
Trial to begin in case of python that killed toddler
Couple accused of failing to protect 2-year-old girl from being strangled by snake


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-snake-trial-begins-20110710,0,6941119.story

Jury selection is set for Monday in the case of Charles "Jason" Darnell, 34, and Jaren Hare, 21. They are accused of failing to keep the 8-foot-6-inch albino Burmese python from slithering out of a terrarium in July 2009 and into bed with the toddler, Shaianna Hare.

The couple, who will be tried together, could get 35 years in prison each if convicted of all charges.

Darnell and Hare, Shaianna's mother, had been dating for two years before the snake attack, and Darnell had planned to adopt the little girl. The couple had a child together about a month after Shaianna's death.

Valleyboy
07-11-2011, 04:46 PM
Jury picked in killer python case; couple rejected plea deal


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-snake-trial-jury-selection-20110711,0,3873655.story


BUSHNELL — As he hurried past reporters at the Sumter County courthouse, where a jury was picked today in the case of a killer python, Charles Darnell insisted the death of his girlfriend's daughter "was an accident."

But the panel of six jurors that includes two grandmothers will be asked to decide that issue.

Prosecutors contend Darnell, 34, and the child's mother, Jaren Hare, 21, acted with reckless disregard for the safety of 2-year-old Shaianna Hare on July 1, 2009, when the toddler was strangled by an 8-foot-6-inch Burmese python they kept as a pet.

The couple who will be tried together rejected a plea offer that would have capped any prison time at 10 years, assistant state attorney Pete Magrino revealed to Circuit Judge William (Bud) Hallman before jury selection began.

If convicted of involuntary manslaughter, third-degree murder and child neglect as charged, the couple, who became parents again about a month after Shaianna was killed, could receive as many as 35 years in prison.

CarolinaWoman
07-11-2011, 11:36 PM
Jury selection was completed today. Five women and two men one of whom will serve as an alternate. Opening statements will be Tuesday morning at the Sumter County Courthouse. It should be interesting to see the results of this trial after the Anthony debacle in Orlando last week.

Valleyboy
07-12-2011, 02:13 PM
Prosecutor calls snake 'instrument of death' in killer python trial
Defense lawyer calls death 'terrible accident'


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-snake-trial-opening-statements-20110712,0,7733302.story

BUSHNELL — The grandmother of Shaianna Hare, the toddler strangled in her crib by a pet python in July 2009, testified today that she begged her daughter not to keep the 8-foot-6-inch snake in the house because its container did not have a secure lid.

Sheryl Hare of Weirsdale in Marion County said she so feared for the safety of her tiny granddaughter that she also offered to buy the snake from her daughter, Jaren Hare, 21, for $500 and suggested that they put a plywood lid over the 200-gallon snake tank and anchor the lid with cement blocks.

JBounds
07-12-2011, 02:23 PM
Jury selected in toddler-killed-by-snake case.

http://www.9news.com/news/world/207608/347/Jury-selected-in-toddler-killed-by-snake-case-

**Sorry didn't see an earlier post about jury selection**

Valleyboy
07-13-2011, 12:54 PM
Prosecution, defense rest case in in killer python trial

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-killer-python-state-rests-20110714,0,2231821.story


BUSHNELL — The state and defense both rested their cases today in the manslaughter trial against a couple in Sumter County where a pet python strangled a child two years ago.

The final prosecution witnesses were Gainesville-area snake-farmer Eugene Bessette and deputy medical examiner Wendy Lavezzi who testified that the snake asphyxiated 2-year-old Shaianna Hare and tried to "ingest her, basically."

The toddler's mother, Jaren Hare, 21, and the mother's live-in boyfriend, Charles "Jason" Darnell, 34, could be sentenced to 35 years in prison if convicted of manslaughter, third-degree murder and child neglect. Their lawyers contend that the killing of the toddler in July 2009 by a pet Burmese python named Gypsy was a terrible but unpredictable accident.




The defense rested its case without calling either Hare or Darnell to testify.

Bullwinkle
07-14-2011, 02:45 PM
Just in: Jury Finds Couple Guilty In Python Murder (http://www.wesh.com/r/28549144/detail.html)

"Both defendants could face up to 35 years in prison. Hare and Darnell were offered a plea deal earlier in the week that would have capped their time at 10 years. They turned the plea deal down."

Valleyboy
07-14-2011, 03:18 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-killer-python-verdict-20110715,0,4364601.story

Hope they get a suitable sentence and not let out for time served.

southcitymom
07-14-2011, 08:01 PM
So sad! My prayers for these parents.

pinkfly
07-14-2011, 08:06 PM
Just heard on the car radio that they were found guilty...didn’t catch when the sentence would be known. I guess it will have to be more than the 10 year plea deal they turned down.

Blondie in Spokane
07-14-2011, 10:26 PM
Here's an article from Fox News....no mention of the sentence yet.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/14/couple-guilty-in-case-girl-strangled-by-python/?test=latestnews

ShawnHS
07-16-2011, 07:14 AM
The reverse speech analysis of Charles Darnell indicates that the snake did not get out on its own, Darnell intentionally released it. If you just look at the two known reversals they tell a different story than he was saying in the forward to the 911 operator...

...Based upon his reversals alone the charges seem appropriate for at least him.

...Right now he is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court, but for now it appears that the use of Reverse Speech has proven to be accurate as far as Darnell being responsible for the actions which lead to the child's death.

I'm going to live with what I did. (http://www.backwardstate.com/im_going_to_live_with_what_i_did.mp3) I released it out. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_released_it_out.mp3)

- Charles "Jason" Darnell, guilty of manslaughter, third-degree murder and child neglect.

Reverse speech analysis proves accurate once again!

Uh oh. That can only mean one of two things. This thread is about to get shut down, or deleted!

scorekeeper
07-19-2011, 11:26 PM
A little bit of justice in Florida......

Valleyboy
08-02-2011, 01:25 PM
Sentencing is set for August 24, and Darnell could face more time than Hale because he has 6 prior felony convictions.

Trvl4Lyfe
08-03-2011, 06:31 AM
I hope they both get the max. There are too many irresponsible parents today. :twocents:

Valleyboy
08-24-2011, 03:00 PM
Reptile-loving couple sentenced to 12 years in prison in killer python case
They faced 45 years and turned down a plea deal for 10


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/os-killer-python-sentencing-20110824,0,6052469.story

BUSHNELL — A reptile-loving couple accused of failing to protect a toddler who was killed by an 8-foot-6-inch pet python were just sentenced, with Charles "Jason" Darnell and his girlfriend Jaren Hare both receiving 12 years in prison.

Each faced a possible 45 years in prison for manslaughter and child neglect. They turned down a pretrial plea offer that would have capped their prison time at 10 years.

In addition, Darnell, 34, and Hare, 21, each will have to serve five years of probation upon their release from prison. They were sentenced this afternoon by Circuit Judge William "Bud" Hallman in the constriction death of Shaianna Rose Hare, Hare's 2-year-old daughter, who died in her crib.

Trvl4Lyfe
08-24-2011, 05:54 PM
I would have hoped they gotten more than 12 years. At least 30! Especially that they turned down the plea deal and only received 2 more years off of that.

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