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Paintr
08-10-2009, 09:47 AM
http://www.wbbm780.com/Drew-Peterson-is-back-in-court-SEE-MOTION/4973607

Drew Peterson's lawyers go back to court in Will County this morning for a status hearing on the murder charge against him in the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

SEE THE MOTION

Meanwhile, WBBM's Regine Schlesinger reports they're trying to strike down the Illinois law that goes to the heart of the prosecution's case. For their case against Peterson, prosecutors are relying heavily on so-called testimony from beyond the grave.

Paintr
08-10-2009, 09:49 AM
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1548&z=4

Drew Peterson's defense team has filed a motion to have the new Illinois hearsay law, nicknamed "Drew's Law," declared unconstitutional.


Peterson’s legal team asked the Will County Circuit Court to declare the new Illinois hearsay law unconstitutional.

Paintr
08-10-2009, 09:51 AM
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.hearsay.2.1121153.html

The motion is expected to hold up the start of Peterson's murder trial.

Paintr
08-10-2009, 09:55 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/08/drew-petersons-attorneys-launch-attack-on-hearsay-law.html

"The new hearsay law ... would allow gossip, innuendo, rumor and back fence scandal to come into court and masquerade as evidence," the motion states. The motion is posted on the Web site of Peterson's attorneys.

Peculiar Petunia
08-10-2009, 10:40 AM
Never mind--Paintr beat me to the link on the Tribune's site. :-)

Paintr
08-10-2009, 07:46 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6958203

While attorneys were in the judge's chambers today, Peterson stayed in the court room and talked with reporters about his three months in jail.</p.
I asked him about the food, Peterson said," the food is not bad, I eat everything in front of me."
Peterson says he does not exercise because he does want to exercise in the same clothes he must wear all day...fighting boredom is his biggest challenge. As for reading, Peterson told me, "I hate reading", but he does watch TV. Peterson said, "I've seen Stripes several times so if I start to talk like Bill Murray you'll know why."'

Paintr
08-10-2009, 10:31 PM
If Mr Brodsky succeeds in getting this law declared unconstitutional, criminals from all over Illinois will hail him as a hero.

Paintr
08-10-2009, 10:36 PM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/1709167,Peterson-hearsay-law_JO081009.article

To understand the law, consider this example: There is a court case, and the defendant knows a certain witness will testify. If the defendant kills the witness — or makes them disappear — to stop the testimony, the law allows statements made by the witness to be used in court.

Stacy's statements

In this case, Stacy Peterson, Drew Peterson's missing fourth wife, allegedly told a minister that her husband had killed his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

mysteriew
08-11-2009, 12:54 AM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/1709167,Peterson-hearsay-law_JO081009.article

To understand the law, consider this example: There is a court case, and the defendant knows a certain witness will testify. If the defendant kills the witness — or makes them disappear — to stop the testimony, the law allows statements made by the witness to be used in court.

Stacy's statements

In this case, Stacy Peterson, Drew Peterson's missing fourth wife, allegedly told a minister that her husband had killed his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

Kathleen Savio also sent a letter to I think the DA that gave details of alleged mistreatment by DrewP both during the marriage and during the time when he began dating Stacey. I think this is also included in the hearsay law.


Without the hearsay law, criminals have a motive. To get the witness quiet. So in some ways the hearsay law, if kept on the books is a form of protection for the victim. If the perp wants to quiet them, but knows they have already put their issues in writing then the value of killing them is reduced.

Paintr
08-11-2009, 08:45 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-peterson-hearsay_11_aug11,0,1334049.story

The law was specifically drafted to meet constitutional muster, said a spokesman for the state's attorney's office, who added that similar laws have been enacted in more than a dozen states.

"Mr. Glasgow is eager to argue this motion and he believes thoroughly that he will prevail as to the constitutionality issues," said spokesman Charles Pelkie.

Paintr
08-11-2009, 08:49 AM
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Drew-Peterson-Hearsay-Law-Illinois-Unconstitutional-52916302.html

Drew Doesn't Want to Hear From Dead Wife
"Drew's Law" was enacted last year

The motion was expected. After Peterson's arrest this year for the 2004 slaying of Savio, Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow said he planned to use the new law to let Savio tell jurors why Peterson wanted her dead.

Savio told several people before she died that she was afraid her husband would kill her.

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Similar hearsay laws exist in 12 other states, including Wisconsin.

Paintr
08-11-2009, 03:03 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/11/Peterson-lawyer-wants-hearsay-law-stricken/UPI-48451250005915/

Stacy Peterson allegedly told a minister that her husband killed Savio, prosecutors have said.

Under the new law, known as Drew's law, that statement and others allegedly made by Savio could be admitted as evidence in the murder case against Peterson, whose lawyers Monday asked Will County Judge Stephen White to find the law unconstitutional.

The U.S. Constitution guarantees Peterson the right to confront an accuser in court, something he cannot do in this case, lead defense lawyer Joel Brodsky said.

Paintr
08-11-2009, 03:06 PM
http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=252843

In a motion filed Monday, attorneys argue the Illinois hearsay law is unconstitutional and would allow Kathleen Savio to testify from beyond the grave. The law was enacted last year.

closeobserver
08-12-2009, 04:55 PM
This is obviously something the defense has to do. It was expected that they would challenge it, so nobody should be overly concerned. We can only hope that the drafters of the legislation created a constitutionally acceptable law. It certainly makes sense.

thesleuther
08-12-2009, 11:37 PM
I can completely understand the validity of entering Kathleen's own words in her own handwriting to the court. This seems, to me, an absolutely fair and reasonable use of the law.

While I personally loathe Drew Peterson and am certain he killed both Kathleen and Stacy, I have to wonder about the introduction of the pastor's statements about what Stacy allegedly said about Kathleen's death. If Stacy had put it in writing, that would be one thing. But quoting what someone said about what Drew said seems really iffy to me. I think that this particular item would be challenged all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I'm not certain that the ruling would be favorable.

JMO

Paintr
08-14-2009, 11:11 AM
http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=91392

Attorneys will also argue a motion to drop a new Illinois hearsay law, which would allow prosecutors to use alleged statements made by a dead victim.

Paintr
08-18-2009, 08:50 AM
http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1721167,081809drew.article

Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan wants to get involved in Drew Peterson's murder case to help Will County prosecutors defend the constitutionality of a controversial new law known as "Drew's law."

.............

White has scheduled an Oct. 2 hearing on the constitutionality of Drew's Law. In addition to Glasgow, an assistant attorney general would argue on behalf of Drew's law if White allows the office into the case.

"This motion to intervene serves a very limited purpose," Madigan spokeswoman Robyn Ziegler said Monday. "The attorney general has the responsibility of defending the constitutionality of state laws

Paintr
08-18-2009, 08:53 AM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/1720756,4_JO17_Madigan-weigh-on-Peterson-case.article

To understand the law, consider this example: There is a court case, and the defendant knows a certain witness will testify. If the defendant kills the witness — or makes them disappear — to stop the testimony, the law allows statements made by the witness to be used in court.

In this case, Stacy Peterson, Drew Peterson's missing fourth wife, allegedly told a minister that her husband had killed his third wife, Kathleen Savio. Stacy Peterson disappeared in October 2007. State police have called the case a potential homicide

Paintr
09-15-2009, 06:26 PM
Attorneys for former Bolingbrook police sergeant Drew Peterson say they have filed final papers and briefs in their motion to have the new Illinois hearsay law declared unconstitutional.

The law was expected to play a role in Peterson's upcoming trial for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.






http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson-moti,0,2340024.story

Paintr
09-15-2009, 06:28 PM
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1643&z=4

Drew Peterson's Motion To Silence "Cry From The Grave" Law Now Online
Documents filed now available for viewing online.

Drew Peterson's lawyers - Joel Brodsky, Andrew Aboodand Reem Odeh- sent their Reply Brief to the State's Attorney and the Attorney General today. Judge Stephen White is set to hear arguments on this motion on October 2, 2009.

Paintr
10-02-2009, 08:01 AM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/1801662,Peterson-Drew-court-hearsay-JO100109.article

The constitutionality of law seen as crucial in the Drew Peterson case is expected to be argued Friday when Peterson returns to court.

Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is being held on murder charges in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.



Layers for Peterson have asked Will County Judge Stephen White to declare unconstitutional a new state law called Drew's Law.

Paintr
10-02-2009, 08:03 AM
http://www.wbbm780.com/Could-Drew-Peterson-Go-Free-/5344656

Could Drew Peterson Go Free?


The judge is expected to rule on a defense motion for a change of venue, and the judge is expected to hear arguments on the constitutionality of the so-called "Drew's Law," hearsay testimony that would allow statements by the missing fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, into evidence.

Peterson's lawyer Joel Brodsky says odds that the judge will rule in Peterson's favor - and not allow the hearsay testimony - are better than even.

Paintr
10-03-2009, 12:03 AM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hbfkKdZZEPQinpLBXO6Df3-5s2SwD9B36I3O0

Judge rules law in Peterson case constitutional
(AP) – 7 hours ago

JOLIET, Ill. — An Illinois judge has ruled that prosecutors can introduce statements made by former police officer's Drew Peterson's now-deceased ex-wife at his trial.

Will County Judge Stephen White ruled against Peterson's attorneys Friday in their attempt to get the state's so-called "hearsay" law declared unconstitutional. He also denied a request by the former Bolingbrook officer's attorneys to have the trial moved.

Paintr
10-03-2009, 12:05 AM
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Drew-Must-Stand-Trial-in-Will-County-Judge-63285527.html

Drew Must Stand Trial in Will County:






AP Drew Peterson will have to stand trial in Will County after a judge denied his change of venue plea.


Judge Steven White rejected the defense’s bid to have the trial moved. The defense believed that Peterson would have trouble finding an impartial jury

Paintr
10-03-2009, 12:08 AM
http://cbs2chicago.com/wireapnewsil/Judge.rules.against.2.1223925.html

A judge on Friday refused to move Drew Peterson's murder trial and said a law that prosecutors want to use to allow his ex-wife he's accused of killing to "testify from the grave" is constitutional.

...

Possible evidence in the case might include letters written by Savio, who was seeking orders of protection, in which she said Peterson would kill her to shut her up and her sister's testimony at a coroner's jury that Savio told her family it would be no accident if she died.

Brodsky said he has not decided whether to appeal the judge's decision on the hearsay law to the Illinois Supreme Court.

Paintr
10-03-2009, 12:09 AM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Thank you kindly, Judge White!

Paintr
10-05-2009, 08:24 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-7520-Chicago-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d3-Peteson-stays-in-jai-and-his-case-stays-in-Will-County

Peteson stays in jai and his case stays in Will County

Peterson took a one-two punch in court yesterday. A judge denied a request to rule a hearsay law unconstitutional and a request to move the case out of Will County.

The hearsay law is less than a year old and it's key to the state's case against Peterson. Attorney Joel Brodsky predicted the judge would rule the law unconstitutional and was hopeful that would clear the way for a lower bond that would allow Peterson to leave jail sometime next week.

It didn't play out that way. Judge Stephen White upheld the constitutionality of the law which will allow witnesses to testify about what Peterson's third and fourth wives told friends and family about him.

Texas Mist
01-19-2010, 01:26 PM
Jan 19, 2010 10:50 am US/Eastern
Victim To Speak 'From The Grave' On Peterson Case
Kathleen Savio's Statements Will Be Heard At Pre-Trial Hearing

JOLIET, Ill. (CBS) -- Six years after she mysteriously drowned in a bathtub, Kathleen Savio is finally getting her day in court at a crucial pre-trial hearing in the Drew Peterson case.

Savio essentially will testify from the grave Tuesday, with witnesses expected to tell Will County Judge Stephen White how Savio discussed and wrote about her fears that her ex-husband, former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson, would kill her.

Her testimony will come through comments she purportedly made to family members and others about threats from Peterson as their stormy marriage ended.

Even statements allegedly made by Peterson's missing fourth wife, Stacy, could be presented during the hearing, which could run for a month.

more here

http://wjz.com/national/drew.peterson.hearing.2.1434808.html

passionflower
01-19-2010, 01:48 PM
justice for kathleen!!!

ohiogirl
01-19-2010, 01:53 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/01/peterson-hearsay-evidence-hearing-opens-today.html

mitzi
01-19-2010, 04:04 PM
justice for kathleen!!!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

AmandaReckonwith
01-19-2010, 04:43 PM
Case album:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Stacy%20Peterson%20-%20Kathleen%20Savio/

passionflower
01-19-2010, 06:19 PM
Angel that Cares has once again helped us with the videos and articles.......many thanks!
why DID WE ONLY SEE AN ARTISTS PICTURE (oops caps) of drew and no video or pics of him???
Were cameras and news not allowed in hearing?
Wasn't it public?
Do we know yet what happened?
I am still reading, may find out............
just thought I'd check snd see if anyone knew anything yet.
This will last along time, hope it is on go!
This hearsay can put alot of spouse murderers behind bars!

Marsha
01-19-2010, 09:10 PM
This may have been posted before and it is an excellent informational site:

http://petersonstory.wordpress.com/

mitzi
01-20-2010, 03:55 AM
Angel that Cares has once again helped us with the videos and articles.......many thanks!
why DID WE ONLY SEE AN ARTISTS PICTURE (oops caps) of drew and no video or pics of him???
Were cameras and news not allowed in hearing?
Wasn't it public?
Do we know yet what happened?
I am still reading, may find out............
just thought I'd check snd see if anyone knew anything yet.
This will last along time, hope it is on go!
This hearsay can put alot of spouse murderers behind bars!

passionflower, no cameras allowed in the courtroom, not even cell phones, so no "tweeting" either. Media was allowed in, but not to film.

AmandaReckonwith
01-20-2010, 04:03 PM
Angel that Cares has once again helped us with the videos and articles.......many thanks!
why DID WE ONLY SEE AN ARTISTS PICTURE (oops caps) of drew and no video or pics of him???
Were cameras and news not allowed in hearing?
Wasn't it public?
Do we know yet what happened?
I am still reading, may find out............
just thought I'd check snd see if anyone knew anything yet.
This will last along time, hope it is on go!
This hearsay can put alot of spouse murderers behind bars!

I looked at a lot of stories, but found only 2 pics of Drew going in, just both quick snips on video. (posted in the album)

No cameras in court in IL. The hearing is expected to take 2-3-4 weeks depending on who you listen to.

I want Drew to pay for what he's done to 2 wives, but I disagree with the hearsay law, it is unconstitutional.

Yes, in Drew's case it seems terrific, because there is overwhelming abundance of hearsay. Everyone around both women seemed to know he was going to kill them fgs.
Both women knew it.
The families knew it.
The co-workers knew it.
The cops knew it.
The SA office knew it.
The damn pastor even knew it.
Kathleen told everyone.
Stacy asked for help. She asked for a place to live, she even told the pastor DP killed KS.

So yeah, the "Drew's Law" is 'fine just fine' if it puts him away...

But what happens later... way past Drew Peterson?

It is a bad law.

passionflower
01-20-2010, 09:06 PM
The only photos I saw was DP entering the building with his head down.........camera shy NOW???? DP should hang his head LOW!!
He has murdered atleast 2 people.

I am all for the hearsay law........I will defend it.
Nicole Simpson had a diary that would of put OJ behind bars, with DV abuse in his history. All knew but he was a celebrity.
Susan Powell is a great example.
Look how many people knew what she was going through with a control freak husband.
I for one did the diary and told as many people as I could also, just like KS and SP.
I survived, but I wrote down who it would be if the accident didn't look right.
I would hope that the hearsay law would take more than a he said she said thing.
Kathleen wrote to the ATTny general with her fears.
Now to me that was a huge red flag that was totally ignored!
Her case should of been looked into instead.
But DP was a cop.
I say ""YES"" to this law and put these people in jail where they belong!
JMOO

JoeFromLB
01-21-2010, 06:14 PM
excerpt:
In a packed but quiet courtroom, Morphey said Peterson suggested when they talked on Oct. 27, 2007, that he intended to kill Stacy because she planned to divorce him, win custody of their children and take Peterson's money.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_re_us/us_drew_peterson

crocus
01-21-2010, 08:25 PM
snipped...


A son from Peterson's first marriage to Carol Brown described watching Peterson in 1993 dragging Savio into the house by her hair.
"She was screaming for help," said Eric Peterson, who described Savio as drunk. "He was pulling her down the stairs."
Eric Peterson, who once spent weekends with Savio and Peterson, has been estranged from his father since 1993.


Article:

http://www.thesunnews.com/nationworld/story/1273517.html

Peculiar Petunia
01-21-2010, 08:45 PM
excerpt:
In a packed but quiet courtroom, Morphey said Peterson suggested when they talked on Oct. 27, 2007, that he intended to kill Stacy because she planned to divorce him, win custody of their children and take Peterson's money.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_on_re_us/us_drew_peterson

Well, that certainly delivers intent, doesn't it?:waitasec:

Leila
01-22-2010, 12:40 AM
Today's testimony from two powerful witnesses had to be riveting! I was surprised that Eric Peterson was a witness, but it sounds like his testimony will be more of a first person account, rather than hearsay. He actually witnessed his father dragging Kathleen into the house by her hair.

mitzi
01-22-2010, 04:14 AM
Today's testimony from two powerful witnesses had to be riveting! I was surprised that Eric Peterson was a witness, but it sounds like his testimony will be more of a first person account, rather than hearsay. He actually witnessed his father dragging Kathleen into the house by her hair.

Sounds like the prosecution is inter-mingling direct testimony with hearsay testimony....as in corroborating testimony.

Wish this was on camera...I'd sure love to be there or to see it.

The witness I am looking forward to hearing from is Stacy's pastor, Neil Schiori. I'm sure there will be some bombshells in his testimony.

Peculiar Petunia
01-22-2010, 10:13 AM
Given Will County's demographics, I agree--the pastor's testimony might make or break the case.

Leila
01-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Sounds like the prosecution is inter-mingling direct testimony with hearsay testimony....as in corroborating testimony.

Wish this was on camera...I'd sure love to be there or to see it.

The witness I am looking forward to hearing from is Stacy's pastor, Neil Schiori. I'm sure there will be some bombshells in his testimony.

I think the direct testimony from Eric Peterson and Tom Morphey, along with the testimony today from Sgt. Collins and Sharon Bychowski, is setting the stage.........giving the background, for which the hearsay evidence will be presented. I expect Neil Schiori to be much later is the list of witnesses.

Peculiar Petunia
01-22-2010, 08:51 PM
I'm glad to see that TM seems to be so strong on the stand. I wish I had more time to follow this the way I'd like.

lonetraveler
01-22-2010, 10:01 PM
Does anyone know if this hearing is being televised anywhere or tweeted? I really would like to see, hear or read a play by play. TIA.

ohiogirl
02-03-2010, 02:58 PM
Is anyone following this? I am amazed at all the testimony saying he threatened her. I am appalled at all that his fellow law enforcement officers let slide. They can be held partially to blame for Kathleen's death, imo. Also, Stacy's, as he would not have been able to kill her if he was punished for Kathleen's murder, imo again.
Please if anyone of you are every in a domestic violence situation with LE, please do not give up reporting. Scream it as loud as you can, as often as you can, until someone hears you.

mitzi
02-03-2010, 07:36 PM
Is anyone following this? I am amazed at all the testimony saying he threatened her. I am appalled at all that his fellow law enforcement officers let slide. They can be held partially to blame for Kathleen's death, imo. Also, Stacy's, as he would not have been able to kill her if he was punished for Kathleen's murder, imo again.
Please if anyone of you are every in a domestic violence situation with LE, please do not give up reporting. Scream it as loud as you can, as often as you can, until someone hears you.

Yes, I'm following this...have been since 2 days after Stacy went missing. You're right about how everyone is testifying to the same threats to Kathleen. I don't see how Judge White could even think about not letting this hearsay in. I guess that Brodsky had better quit saying, "did you report this to LE?", since now witnesses are coming forward saying that they DID report it to the State Police, but no one called them back for statements. I can't believe how eff'd up the original investigation of Kathleen's death was and how everything just fell into place for Drew. Looks like alot of planning went into both her murder and Stacy's. (since I feel he killed Stacy too...and maybe even more!) :furious: It really angers me!

Leila
02-03-2010, 11:46 PM
Is anyone following this? I am amazed at all the testimony saying he threatened her. I am appalled at all that his fellow law enforcement officers let slide. They can be held partially to blame for Kathleen's death, imo. Also, Stacy's, as he would not have been able to kill her if he was punished for Kathleen's murder, imo again.
Please if anyone of you are every in a domestic violence situation with LE, please do not give up reporting. Scream it as loud as you can, as often as you can, until someone hears you.

I'm following the hearsay hearing on a daily basis, and it IS amazing that every witness has stated that either Kathleen or Stacy told them they feared Drew would kill them. These two woman knew with certainty that Drew is a killer. Witness after witness reports the same story of Kathleen telling them that Drew held a knife to her throat and told her the only reason he wouldn't kill her right then is because it would be too bloody. Stacy told close friends and neighbors her life was in danger and if anything happened to her, Drew did it.

This could only happen in a town where the police are complicit in crime, covering for each other. Both Kathleen and Stacy knew that the local police wouldn't help them, and would instead cover for Drew.

I remember when this story first broke, there were several who were fearful of the local police. Rick Mims was one who went into hiding for a while. Tom Morphey went into hiding for a long time. So the problem with the local police isn't limited to abused women.

Let's hope that one of the outcomes of this is an investigation into the Bolingbrook police and into the ISP too, and the corruption is cleaned up.

Natal
02-04-2010, 12:31 AM
So yeah, the "Drew's Law" is 'fine just fine' if it puts him away...

But what happens later... way past Drew Peterson?

It is a bad law.

It is going to put innocent people in prison because someone doesnt like them and is willing to lie about it, knowing that they could never be proven to be lieing. There are plenty of sociopaths, bitter associates or people who have preconcieved ideas out there, so it is going to happen.

In this particular case everyone and their dog who didn't like Peterson is going to "remember" that the wives said he was going to kill them, and there isn't a thing he can do to challenge that.

ohiogirl
02-04-2010, 02:01 PM
That is the entire purpose of this hearing, for the judge to decide if any of this will be let in in a trial. It won't be that just anyone who knows someone who is dead will be able to say "he (she) told me that they feared for their life." Any trial that wants to use "Drew's Law" as evidence will be subject to hearing to decide if the information is usable or not. I am sure you all know this.

mysteriew
02-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Reading this article posted in media by Angel all I can say is just wow! I mean WOW!


Robert Deel said he had been handling crime scene investigations for about one year when he was called to Savio's Bolingbrook house in the overnight hours of March 1, 2004. He said he did not test for the presence of unseen blood in the bathroom, collect a blood sample from the tub, dust for fingerprints and did not take into evidence a glass of orange juice in the kitchen or a bottle of cleaning fluid on a dresser in Savio's bedroom.

"There wasn't really anything to look for," he said of evidence in the bathroom.

Savio's fingernail clippings -- sometimes a source of crime scene DNA -- were never tested, Deel said.

Deel said he also did not notice that night any of the documented injuries Savio suffered, but said it would not have changed his investigation.

"The bruises on the body are insignificant to me," he said.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/cop-stacy-petersons-answers-about-savio-seemed-scripted.html

What would have been "significant to this guy? Would a confession have even changed his mind?

Later in the article he also says this:


Deel also testified that after Stacy Peterson's disappearance in 2007, he was asked by Will County prosecutors to never again process a crime scene in their county.

mitzi
02-06-2010, 10:33 PM
Reading this article posted in media by Angel all I can say is just wow! I mean WOW!



What would have been "significant to this guy? Would a confession have even changed his mind?

Later in the article he also says this:

I know...crazy isn't it? One thing I can't figure out is, since they bagged Kathleen's hands, why did they not, at least check under her fingernails for skin to get DNA from. It seems like everyone, in authority, involved in the investigation, did very little, and totally ignored others who thought the investigation should be more extensive and possibly a homicide. Just sickens me, all that was ignored. :sick:

fran
02-09-2010, 10:08 AM
I'm with everyone else on this. I can't believe how many signs of murder this LE agency completely ignored. I guess whenever there's a suspicious death of a fellow officer's family or acquaintances, another agency needs to be called in.

for sure!
:mad:
fran


This from Savio's divorce attorney:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DREW_PETERSON?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

He said Savio told him on several occasions, "If I die, Drew did it."

Smith acknowledged that he thought Savio was paranoid and did not take such talk seriously, until he heard she had died.

He said he quickly called the Illinois State Police with his suspicions. He's at least the third witness to testify to doing so in the days after Savio's death.

Like the others, he said Illinois State Police never called him back.

TallCoolOne
02-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Yuppers, this just leaves me completely slack-jawed. Had they investigated Kathleen's MURDER, they could have prevented Stacy's.

Every time I try to post on this I end up having to leave........ I can't say what's on my fingertips as I know I'll just get myself in trouble.

This just makes me ill.

mysteriew
02-09-2010, 02:27 PM
It seems true that the department didn't want to investigate it as a murder at that time. But I have to say, they seem to be doing a good job now. Not only investigating, but they seem to be very open and forthcoming on what they did wrong then. So kudos for what they are doing now. Unfortunately it took the death of another of Drew's wives to get them to that point.

The attorneys testimony was also interesting. He claimed that Stacy didn't appear to be afraid of DrewP, yet she expressed fear to everyone else. And the info about Stacy maybe wanting to blackmail DrewP was new info. Not sure how I feel about that. I know when I was going for my divorce, I thought about and talked about doing a lot of things that I knew I would never do. But it does seem that Stacey thought she had an edge on DrewP with the info she knew about him. I wish she had written those things down and given them to someone.

mysteriew
02-09-2010, 02:46 PM
What do you all think about Ric M's testimony? I remember him telling us that the only money he received for talking with the press, was enough money to pay off his phone bill. And the story he is telling now doesn't sound like the stories he told here.

ohiogirl
02-09-2010, 03:00 PM
I haven't seen any reports of his testimony yet. Do you have a link?

mysteriew
02-09-2010, 03:08 PM
I haven't seen any reports of his testimony yet. Do you have a link?

Angel posted these in the media thread today.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/drew_peterson/attorney-testifies-drew-ptereson

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/2036862,Lawyer-Stacy-planned-blackmail_JO020910.article

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-0209-drew-peterson-hearing-20100208,0,1766037.story

mitzi
02-09-2010, 05:11 PM
What do you all think about Ric M's testimony? I remember him telling us that the only money he received for talking with the press, was enough money to pay off his phone bill. And the story he is telling now doesn't sound like the stories he told here.

Hmmmm...$17,000 from the Enquirer...Mims must talk alot on his phone! LOL!

ohiogirl
02-10-2010, 02:39 PM
I think he originally thought he was hot stuff to be friends with a dirty cop. He then found out it wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

ohiogirl
02-10-2010, 02:41 PM
I can't imagine being this judge trying to weed through these statements and decide which to let in and which to keep out. I would think that Drew's Law laid down some criteria and guidelines regarding this. I am not a lawyer, so I don't know how much could possibly make it in to the trial. It is really a shame that it had to come to this.

mysteriew
02-10-2010, 02:58 PM
At the scene of a death, who decides if it is a suspicious death or not? I always thought it was the coroner. But in this article that Angel posted, it sounds as though they allowed the inexperienced, maybe inept CSI to make that decision.




She was preceded by Michael VanOver, the deputy coroner who took the Kathleen Savio death call.

VanOver said that while he was at Savio's house, state police Crime Scene Investigator Robert Deel told him there was nothing "we need to be looking for here," prompting him to abandon the suspicious death protocol. The protocol dictates that the victim's hands be bagged and for the body to be placed in a fresh white sheet, a white body bag and a second body bag. Savio's hands were bagged, but the rest of the procedure was skipped.

VanOver also said he "didn't quite agree" with the state police's assessment of the case.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/2038690,Ex-wife-Peterson-threat_JO021010.article

mysteriew
02-10-2010, 03:35 PM
Reading this article posted in media by Angel, I have to say I do agree with this statement.....

"You've got to look at these things very skeptically," Ekl said. "Two people who are going through a terrible divorce can say a lot of terrible things about each other that aren't true."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-drew-peterson-hearsay-hearing-expe20100209,0,518581.story

However, when you have three wives and all three wives are saying basically the same thing, I think it becomes believable.


Experts are saying that the evidence tying DrewP to the death of Kathleen is pretty thin. And I am afraid they are right. With the witnesses, I see a pretty good case, but without the witnesses, I worry about this case. So here is to hoping that a lot of the hearsay evidence comes in.

ohiogirl
02-11-2010, 12:48 PM
I am thinking that they have looked into any connection between Deel and Drew, right?
Or, could they be saving that for the trial, if it doesn't pertain to hearsay?

closeobserver
02-11-2010, 06:12 PM
I am thinking that they have looked into any connection between Deel and Drew, right?
Or, could they be saving that for the trial, if it doesn't pertain to hearsay?
You are correct in that the relationship between Deel and Drew would not be part of the hearsay trial. Only topics relating to hearsay evidence is being brought forth in this pre-trial hearing.

WhiteLilly
02-15-2010, 06:55 PM
Peterson had four wives, not three.

crocus
02-15-2010, 10:46 PM
If I were Drew Peterson......I'd be worried. VERY worried right about now.


Just sayin'.

mysteriew
02-16-2010, 02:28 AM
If I were Drew Peterson......I'd be worried. VERY worried right about now.


Just sayin'.

Oh he is worried. When it came out that his wife was missing, it was all a big joke. Now there are no more jokes. He doesn't even cut up with the reporters on his way into court. Yep, he is worried, he didn't think this day would ever come.

nomad
02-16-2010, 09:12 PM
Does anyone have any idea who tomorrow's last (for the defense) witness could be? One of the few people I see missing is M.R., and he's got a few arrests so I don't think he'd be very credible, imo
Maybe Drew's mom lol

mitzi
02-16-2010, 10:48 PM
Does anyone have any idea who tomorrow's last (for the defense) witness could be? One of the few people I see missing is M.R., and he's got a few arrests so I don't think he'd be very credible, imo
Maybe Drew's mom lol

I was thinking either Carcereno or Thomas(DP's son)...or maybe his son Steve???

AmandaReckonwith
02-17-2010, 10:23 AM
It's Walter Martinek.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/bolingbrooksun/news/2052165,4_1_JO17_PETERSON_S1-100217.article

AmandaReckonwith
02-17-2010, 08:55 PM
AND
Dr. Jeffrey Jentzen

I added this info to the archive album.

I wondered how the defense got such a good forensic pathologist to testify.

Here is the connection:
Camille Abood was Andrew Abood's uncle, who was in practice with Andrew's father at his law firm. So, Andrew's cousin Dr. Chris Abood was married to Ruth Otto Abood (deceased), and her sister is married to Jeff Jentzen.

Found it from looking at her obit, and the how-related...ty harms :)

Here's the album link:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Stacy%20Peterson%20-%20Kathleen%20Savio/

TallCoolOne
02-17-2010, 09:08 PM
AND
Dr. Jeffrey Jentzen

I added this info to the archive album.

I wondered how the defense got such a good forensic pathologist to testify.

Here is the connection:
Camille Abood was Andrew Abood's uncle, who was in practice with Andrew's father at his law firm. So, Andrew's cousin Dr. Chris Abood was married to Ruth Otto Abood (deceased), and her sister is married to Jeff Jentzen.

Found it from looking at her obit, and the how-related...ty harms :)

Here's the album link:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Stacy%20Peterson%20-%20Kathleen%20Savio/
Help me understand here. If Jeffrey Jentzen wasn't present for any of the autopsies how effective would he be?

mitzi
02-17-2010, 10:38 PM
AND
Dr. Jeffrey Jentzen

I added this info to the archive album.

I wondered how the defense got such a good forensic pathologist to testify.

Here is the connection:
Camille Abood was Andrew Abood's uncle, who was in practice with Andrew's father at his law firm. So, Andrew's cousin Dr. Chris Abood was married to Ruth Otto Abood (deceased), and her sister is married to Jeff Jentzen.

Found it from looking at her obit, and the how-related...ty harms :)

Here's the album link:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Stacy%20Peterson%20-%20Kathleen%20Savio/

Nice catch, Amanda! :dance: I wonder if the prosecution knows of this connection.

ohiogirl
02-18-2010, 12:19 PM
Hearing determination will probably be kept secret until trial.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-0217-drew-peterson-hearing-resumes20100216,0,4425394.story

ohiogirl
02-18-2010, 12:22 PM
Brodsky was falling asleep during expert testimony. Good choice, Drew.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/peterson/2054927,Peterson-hearing-pathologist_SCN021710.article

mysteriew
02-18-2010, 10:51 PM
LOL on JB. I just hope he sleeps at trial.

Boo on the seal on the hearsay decision. I guess we won't know until we hear what the witnesses testify to.

I bet this judge is hating it that he is the one who has to hear this case. It is an almost guarenteed bet that it will be appealed, no matter what decision he makes.