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Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:25 AM
Starts at 9:30am


I added these here for reference & discussion for everyone!

Hearing For August 21, 2009

HEARING VIDEO: Part 1
http://www.wftv.com/video/20492642/index.html

HEARING VIDEO: Part 2
http://www.wftv.com/video/20493321/index.html

HEARING VIDEO: Part 3
http://www.wftv.com/video/20493513/index.html

HEARING VIDEO: Part 4
http://www.wftv.com/video/20493801/index.html

HEARING VIDEO: Part 5
http://www.wftv.com/video/20494264/index.html


CASEY GETS EMOTIONAL: Tears Shed By Casey
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20492438/detail.html

CASEY ARRIVES: See Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491513/detail.html

CASEY ARRIVES: Raw Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/20491706/index.html

INSIDE COURTROOM: See Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491889/detail.html

GEORGE, CINDY IN COURT: See Images
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491731/detail.html
:angel:


UNCUT VIDEO: George Anthony Testifies
http://www.wesh.com/video/20492953/index.html

Images: Casey Anthony In Court On Aug. 21
http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/20492612/detail.html

VIDEO: Casey Anthony Returns To Court
http://www.wesh.com/video/20490034/index.html

Article:
http://www.wesh.com/news/20489546/detail.html



Added Motions For Reference!

MOTIONS: Renewed Motion to Compel Bench Notes, Standards, Data, and Communications with Law Enforcement
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20483047/detail.html

MOTION: Casey's Objection
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344261/detail.html

MOTION: To Certify Witness
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344194/detail.html

MOTION: Protective Order
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344147/detail.html

Mark NeJame's Filed On Behalf For Tim Miller Of TES
DOCUMENT: NeJame Motion To Deny Request For EquuSearch's Records
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20480558/detail.html

DOCUMENT: NeJame Letter To Defense Regarding EquuSearch
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20480499/detail.html

Motion Regarding Anthony Lazzaro's Cell Phone Records
MOTION: Regarding Lazzaro
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20483132/detail.htm


Thanks to Angel Who Cares for the links!

It's Not the Nanny
08-21-2009, 09:29 AM
Who is the taller man sitting next to CA?

KimK
08-21-2009, 09:33 AM
Past 9:30 and no one is there from the defense ?

Chiquita71
08-21-2009, 09:34 AM
I cannot see it.

Searchfortruth
08-21-2009, 09:34 AM
Who is the taller man sitting next to CA?That's the same thing I've been wondering...them showing up together has become a pattern and I need some info !

Sprout
08-21-2009, 09:35 AM
The link won't work for me.

Searchfortruth
08-21-2009, 09:35 AM
http://www.wftv.com/video/20489932/index.html

Video but no audio yet...

It's Not the Nanny
08-21-2009, 09:35 AM
That's the same thing I've been wondering...them showing up together has become a pattern and I need some info !

I've noticed it, too!

cassiusleuth
08-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Who is the taller man sitting next to CA?

Is that the crime writer guy? He looks very familiar..

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Does anyone have another link because I am not seeing anything. I get the car ad and then nothing.

Thanks in advance.

birdofparadise
08-21-2009, 09:37 AM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4066387&mode=threaded#post4066387

Searchfortruth
08-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Does anyone have another link because I am not seeing anything. I get the car ad and then nothing.

Thanks in advance.WFTV has a good view, defense just entered court room...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20489932/index.html

Jolynna
08-21-2009, 09:38 AM
Andrea L. is there.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:39 AM
showtime

daisy7
08-21-2009, 09:39 AM
Does anyone have another link because I am not seeing anything. I get the car ad and then nothing.

Thanks in advance.

Me, too from the WFTV page.

Sprout
08-21-2009, 09:40 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-vs-casey-anthony-hearing

This one is working...Audio and all

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:41 AM
JB is being a jerk to MN. GRRR

Why does JB care if MN and TM go first? He's just being spiteful now. Not surprising really considering the source.

MAMABEAR
08-21-2009, 09:42 AM
Ain't that sweet---his daughter's first day at school. AWWWWWWWW

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 09:42 AM
Me, too from the WFTV page.

Annoying huh!

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:42 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/central-florida-news-13

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 09:43 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-vs-casey-anthony-hearing

This one is working...Audio and all

Thank you so much. This one is working great :)

shelbar53
08-21-2009, 09:43 AM
I think casey looks very depressed and weary. I think being in jail has taken its toll on her. the defense is arguing that the body was placed there while casey was in jail.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:43 AM
so they're saying Caylee wasn't there

Searchfortruth
08-21-2009, 09:44 AM
This lawyer needs to go back to California...

Cherry Baby
08-21-2009, 09:44 AM
Lord have mercy - the defense sure likes to hammer their 'points' over and over again, while sending motions to the judge at the last minute. Same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friends.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:44 AM
so they're saying Caylee wasn't there



Amazing, huh?

FaerieB
08-21-2009, 09:45 AM
I honestly can't believe they're maintaining that Caylee wasn't placed there until after KC was locked up! I want to see the proof they have of that!

princess
08-21-2009, 09:45 AM
Listening to this guy makes one not want to volunteer to help out in a search.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 09:46 AM
If Todd says "SPECIOUS" one more time, I'm gonna barf!

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:46 AM
...and of course they have to get all this cr*p out there

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:46 AM
Why is this sounding like a trial?

shelbar53
08-21-2009, 09:47 AM
the defense is saying casey is innocent...because the body was placed there after casey was in jail.

SeriouslySearching
08-21-2009, 09:47 AM
Listening to this guy makes one not want to volunteer to help out in a search.This is my biggest fear...that people will refuse to go search for a missing child after this case. :(

Sprout
08-21-2009, 09:47 AM
I love this!! So, they are trying to say that just because her body wasn't there before Casey was put in jail means Casey didn't kill her? HMMMM

FaerieB
08-21-2009, 09:47 AM
Love that Strickland has cut off the rant!

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:47 AM
They use the word "innocent" and I get sick.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:48 AM
UMM how does Todd M think that the area was "extensively searched, with cadaver dogs"? Was he there? Did he search? Where did he get this "mistruth"?

Reagan
08-21-2009, 09:49 AM
I agree with the poster that said KC looks weary and it's starting to take it's toll. She looks exhausted and jaded. Bags under her eyes... greasy looking from not having her bath products anymore.

Why do her eyes jolt and twitch around like that? Is that a condition or...? What can we attribute that to?

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:50 AM
Oh, boy...like the court doesn't know MN.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:50 AM
I believe Tim, they did NOT extensively search that area, they couldn't. He has pics as proof of the water there.

I will always believe Tim over anyone. Sorry Todd, NEXT!


NOW they are worried about a conflict of interest with MN and TES? Seriously? :banghead:

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
I agree with the poster that said KC looks weary and it's starting to take it's toll. She looks exhausted and jaded. Bags under her eyes... greasy looking from not having her bath products anymore.

Why do her eyes jolt and twitch around like that? Is that a condition or...? What can we attribute that to?

Guilt and not liking that everyone is hearing about her evil deeds.

What my Gran'ma used to call "shifty eyes". You should never trust people that have 'em. :)

It's Not the Nanny
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
I agree with the poster that said KC looks weary and it's starting to take it's toll. She looks exhausted and jaded. Bags under her eyes... greasy looking from not having her bath products anymore.

Why do her eyes jolt and twitch around like that? Is that a condition or...? What can we attribute that to?





Condition to cause her shifty eyes?? GUILT.


I, personally, enjoy watching her take her big heavy sighs when they bring up the death penalty.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
I think KC looks like she knows her goose is cooked.

Cherry Baby
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
Oh the defense will be done - after they slime up Nejame and Tim. Cowards.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
Someone please wipe the smirk off JB"s face!

princess
08-21-2009, 09:52 AM
This is my biggest fear...that people will refuse to go search for a missing child after this case. :(

Everyone who has anything minor in their past who helped search could have things brought out in the court and be discredited some how not to mention be embarrassed by the defense team during the trial.

floridamom
08-21-2009, 09:54 AM
Looks like she has lost some weight.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 09:56 AM
ha! Thanks for the shifty eye responses.

Anyone got any other suggestions?

SeriouslySearching
08-21-2009, 09:56 AM
Someone please wipe the smirk off JB"s face!Oh...I agree!! The look he gave when the judge said he didn't have MN's Response. GRRRR!

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 09:57 AM
ha! Thanks for the shifty eye responses.

Anyone got any other suggestions?

Over stimulated? She hasn't been around this many people without glass between her and them for her safety for getting close to a year... :chicken:

I agree, looks like she's lost weight.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 09:59 AM
Interesting about BC knowing the searchers.

Searchfortruth
08-21-2009, 09:59 AM
Did MN say that he gave Brad C all of the searchers info ? Sorry RR didn't see your post...I guess he did say that.

shelbar53
08-21-2009, 10:00 AM
I think someone from the defense drilled into casey how serious this is and to stop smiling and acting flirty, she doesnt seem to be faking being depressed, hair is greasy, tired eyes, face thiner,downturned mouth.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:01 AM
Sorry...just have to say...I h*te her.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:01 AM
Interesting about BC knowing the searchers.

Joy W Perhaps? Or am I confused?

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:03 AM
Macaluso's job was to put the "innocent" word out there as many times as possible, like a Town Cryer.
He also said MN was working with the assumption of Casey's innocence when he worked for the Anthonys', he was Not Casey's attorney and I think Macaluso has no idea what he's talking about.
He also mentioned the area being searched by cadaver dogs, if I recall, that was the dog with that psychic, they didn't search, she just walked in and out of the field, she was dressed in sandals and was not searching.
Casey looks like death heated over.

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 10:03 AM
ha! Thanks for the shifty eye responses.

Anyone got any other suggestions?

Medication can do that, psych meds in particular.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Interesting about BC knowing the searchers.

It is. Casey did not seem happy about that and covered the mic on the table to talk to JB and show him some notes.

Angel Lady
08-21-2009, 10:04 AM
I missed Casey's entrance into the courtroom..did she smile at, look, or acknowledge in any way her parents?

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:04 AM
Joy W Perhaps? Or am I confused?
He was given all names as a courtesy.

shelbar53
08-21-2009, 10:07 AM
I missed Casey's entrance into the courtroom..did she smile at, look, or acknowledge in any way her parents?

no casey didnt, but before she came in george and cindy we smiling and kept taking peeks at the camera.

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:07 AM
Andrea Lyon has a very sarcastic tone, the jury will hate her.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:08 AM
What was AL saying about an email regarding GA and MN?

Sprout
08-21-2009, 10:08 AM
Andrea Lyon has a very sarcastic tone, the jury will hate her.

I was just thinking the same thing.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:08 AM
Medication can do that, psych meds in particular.

Hmm interesting. I tried to do a quick search before I head to work.. if it relates to any psychological disorders... psychosis, mania, etc..

I'll try to work that into my searches, thanks!

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Oh...they're looking for JW!

ETA: thanks LC!

princess
08-21-2009, 10:09 AM
Defense is asking for permission to go on a witch hunt IMO

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:11 AM
Oh...they're looking for JW!

ETA: thanks LC!


Hahaha, oh boy, Joy will fit right in with the D team.:crazy:

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:11 AM
Oh...they're looking for JW!

My thought exactly. Although she should be a GREAT resource for them already. I'm sure she has MANY stories of "her search" and who was there and how Caylee was NOT.

I need to go puke now... :bang:

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 10:11 AM
Hmm interesting. I tried to do a quick search before I head to work.. if it relates to any psychological disorders... psychosis, mania, etc..

I'll try to work that into my searches, thanks!

IMO she looks like she has recently been distraught/depressed and had a lack of sleep and lack of sleep can also cause eye twitching and dry eyes which makes you blink frequently. You could be on to something though.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:12 AM
Oh, she's vouching for JB to behave himself.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:13 AM
Seems more and more like Conway is NOT out to help the defense either. Wonder how the A's are handling that?

FaerieB
08-21-2009, 10:13 AM
Love that MN just busted the defense team in a lie!!!

watcher9
08-21-2009, 10:13 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:15 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20489932/index.html


This is working perfectly for me.

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 10:15 AM
I really like Mark, he seems very reasonable and intelligent. I know I am on their side and all but I do not care for the male SA (sorry I don't know his name), he is always making faces and shaking his head and it seems very inappropriate and unprofessional to me.

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:15 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...

WFTV seems fine to me.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:15 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...


WATCH LIVE NOW: Casey Anthony In Court For 9:30AM Hearing On Motions

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:16 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-vs-casey-anthony-hearing

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:16 AM
Watcher,

the link I'm watching has the audio and video synced. If that's what you mean?

http://www.wftv.com/video/20489932/index.html

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:18 AM
Why does JB need to make those faces?

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:18 AM
I really like Mark, he seems very reasonable and intelligent. I know I am on their side and all but I do not care for the male SA (sorry I don't know his name), he is always making faces and shaking his head and it seems very inappropriate and unprofessional to me.

I totally agree. I was thinking when I seen him do that the first time that I'd rather watch Linda Drane Burke take on this case with another person. I like her style. Is he going to be doing that throughout the trial? Highly unprofessional. It's like he's no better than smirky Baez.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:19 AM
Why does JB need to make those faces?

Indigestion.... upset stomach... diarrhea?

Tum tum tum tum!

princess
08-21-2009, 10:19 AM
Aww..Casey wiped a fake tear...

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:20 AM
On to AL phone records

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:20 AM
No AL...good.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:21 AM
Is there any site that cordinates the video and the sound? I'm getting so confused...

http://www.wftv.com/video/20489932/index.html

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:21 AM
It irks me that JB can't complete a sentence without Uh.. um... stutter stutter... Ahh.. umm...

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:22 AM
"uh uh uh I just want to uh uhm uh or or or .... uhm "

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:22 AM
Aww..Casey wiped a fake tear...

No she didn't, she was trying to poke her eyes out again, a habit she has had for a long time now. Watch the video of her on the day she was indicted, she did the same thing.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:23 AM
I can't believe that he (TL) has to pay for an attorney...he's paid enough.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:23 AM
Amazing how JB can give the judge a brief before this hearing but turn around and complain about the length of the brief given to him by AL attorney yesterday.

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:24 AM
Sometimes courtroom antics fail to intrigue me, this however, is a thing of beauty.

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 10:24 AM
Aww..Casey wiped a fake tear...

I saw that, I think something is going on with her mental state. Seems like she has been recently crying a lot from the looks of her. I am not convinced it is fake but probably isn't necessarily over the loss of her daughter. More than likely she has either met inmate big Bertha or it has hit her that she might not ever get out of jail/prison.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:26 AM
I like this guy, too...wish he would keep saying his name!!!

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:26 AM
casey looks so gaunt...almost haunted...good.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:26 AM
JB never served AL's lawyer with amended brief; he found about about it from a "3rd party" (the media?) Wednesday afternoon. Sloppy, sloppy. Totally irrelevant: A. Lyon needs a haircut.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:27 AM
severed, severed, severed

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:27 AM
I LOVE Mr. J! I love how he said "contrary to what has been discussed in here the defense does NOT have the right to decide what's relevent and what's not by supplying more supeonas"

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:28 AM
AL's lawyer is good. I like him.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:28 AM
I LIKE AL's attorney - VERY sharp and articulate.

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:28 AM
Why does JB need to make those faces?
He always does when MN talks - the whole Defense table always smirks and talks when MN talks - makes me sick

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:30 AM
"They can't narrow the request because they don't have any facts." Wants the materials to be provided for in camera review, not tendered directly to defense.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:30 AM
Casey looks angry... she doesn't like that TL's lawyer is saying his internet usage and whatnot is even important.

Poor Casey. NOT!

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:31 AM
"They can't narrow the request because they don't have any facts." Wants the materials to be provided for in camera review, not tendered directly to defense.

As it should be! It should be that way with TES records too. I LOVE this attorney. He's on the ball!

Sprout
08-21-2009, 10:31 AM
I like this guy, too...wish he would keep saying his name!!!

His name is Mr. William Jay. He previously worked as an Assistant State Attorney. I love this guy.

SeriouslySearching
08-21-2009, 10:32 AM
Aww..Casey wiped a fake tear...It appeared to me she was trying to remove an eyelash which was poking in her eye. (Even her eyelashes are out to get her! Call Baez! LOL :eek:)

PrintGal
08-21-2009, 10:32 AM
Wondering how AL has been so effective in other courts- have they been non-jury trials? Her demeanor and sloppy look, not to mention her condescending and sarcastic manner would really turn me off if I were a juror. I would not be disposed to give her arguments much weight just based on the lack of respect she shows the court by her lack of professional and appropriate attire and presentation.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:32 AM
UM, is JB saying he wants to track TL's involvement with LE???

I think that's what he's saying!

whiteangora
08-21-2009, 10:33 AM
Casey looks angry... she doesn't like that TL's lawyer is saying his internet usage and whatnot is even important.

Poor Casey. NOT!

I think seeing TL's attorney took Casey on a walk down memory lane, what could have been with her lover boy had she not killed Caylee.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:33 AM
Oh, boy...he just had to say it...didn't he!

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:33 AM
As it should be! It should be that way with TES records too. I LOVE this attorney. He's on the ball!

ah ha the total defense is that someone else put Caylee there -

naturaleza
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
I wish TL would've gone there and simply ask Casey why she still wants to mess up his life even more... would that have an effect on her???

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
His name is Mr. William Jay. He previously worked as an Assistant State Attorney. I love this guy.
Oh...I mean he should say TL, TL, TL!

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Wondering how AL has been so effective in other courts- have they been non-jury trials? Her demeanor and sloppy look, not to mention her condescending and sarcastic manner would really turn me off if I were a juror. I would not be disposed to give her arguments much weight just based on the lack of respect she shows the court by her lack of professional and appropriate attire and presentation.

She's a bleeding heart for pleading against DP - that is her expertise, as I understand it. Passion for that is her calling card.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
I don't see what AL movements being tracked by his cell phone has to do with the recording of LA in his car or his "runs" with the police to show where they went. He is really reaching.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Judge Strickland: "Tackiness nothwithstanding..." Baez is a train wreck in slow motion.

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:34 AM
JB discussing the words tacky and unethical...the irony is painful.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:35 AM
JB is having some whine with his cheese.

Oh no, people are saying we're unprofessional, we won't have a news conference.

Let's pull his media appearances shall we?

JB is getting more ridiculous as time goes on.

karen7868
08-21-2009, 10:35 AM
Casey looks angry... she doesn't like that TL's lawyer is saying his internet usage and whatnot is even important.

Poor Casey. NOT!

ITA IM. Is she still hung up on TL? Why do they want all these records? For her selfish reasons (jealousy?) wanting to know what he has been doing since he obviously has NOT called/visited since the day she left his apartment with CA.

I wonder what she was writing down and practically threw at JB?

Did she do searches on AL's computer to set him up?

About the tears. The only time she shows any tears is when the DP is mentioned. Just self-pity tears....not for Caylee.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:36 AM
UM, is JB saying he wants to track TL's involvement with LE???

I think that's what he's saying!

I think that's what Baez was trying to argue, but he was doing very poorly.

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:36 AM
JB, when the judge asks you something, answer it directly and stop your babbling.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:37 AM
Well, it's quite clear that the defense is going to try and pin this on TL like it's nobody's business :mad:

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 10:38 AM
It appeared to me she was trying to remove an eyelash which was poking in her eye. (Even her eyelashes are out to get her! Call Baez! LOL :eek:)

There was another time shortly before the eye lash in the eye thing she wiped under her eye as if wiping away a tear.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:38 AM
Judge granted motion on TL, but lmited it to phone calls. Must go through court first to determine revelancy.

Date frame: June 1st thru Dec. 18th.

Phone calls in and phone calls out. Judge said that if the pings are there in the records, good. If not, oh well :)

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 10:39 AM
Look out TL, the KC steamroller is headed your way!

Jeeze. JG, TL, AH, are they all in cahoots acting as a imaginanny?

The Defence is truely taking the splatter gun approach.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:40 AM
6/1 through 7/15: agreed. Phone calls only. Produce in camera to judge. Include 7/15 through 7/23 no one discussed. Produce in camera to judge. 7/23 through 9/12. Produce in camera to judge. 9/13 through 12/18. Produce in camera to judge. Phone records only. All within 30 days.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:40 AM
Allowing phone records only of AL from Sept thru December.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:40 AM
Well there is what the defense is going to try to use. I don't think they will find anything that will prove that or even cause reasonable doubt but it is going to be discredit the forensics and other evidence and blame someone else.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:41 AM
I saw that, I think something is going on with her mental state. Seems like she has been recently crying a lot from the looks of her. I am not convinced it is fake but probably isn't necessarily over the loss of her daughter. More than likely she has either met inmate big Bertha or it has hit her that she might not ever get out of jail/prison.

I think reality is slowly setting in. She's not getting off this time. If she were smart (which I don't think she is) she'd take a plea deal. But like george said, she will take things to the bitter end. It looks like her lawyers are bent on doing the same thing.
Way to waste the FL taxpayers money by letting this circus continue when the end result is extremely obvious. She's guilty, and will pay for her crimes. End of story.

Well, one can only hope reality is setting in..for all we know she's thinking about rainbows and purdy butterflies.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:41 AM
Well...Casey just blew any sympathy from her friends...if there was any. Poor TL.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:41 AM
Onto LP and RD testimony.

GA on the stand, listen to the camera flashes! LOL!

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:42 AM
Poor AL....but then again, aren't there sayings about laying with dogs and waking with fleas?

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:42 AM
George takes the stand! Wow, listen to the shutters clicking away.

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:42 AM
Well there is what the defense is going to try to use. I don't think they will find anything that will prove that or even cause reasonable doubt but it is going to be discredit the forensics and other evidence and blame someone else.
here's how it goes - TL says he met KC near her house where she ran out of gas on June 23rd - his cell ping records show he was there - KC says it never happened - so TL put the remains there -

lovelabs
08-21-2009, 10:43 AM
Thank you all for the blow by blow action, I can't view the streaming media here at work.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:43 AM
On to new trial date for Check fraud charges.

Thought they were moving on to the barring of LP and the rest?

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Thought they were moving on to the barring of LP and the rest?

You are correct. GA is testifying about why Leonard Padilla was hired (his understanding from JB).

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:44 AM
here's how it goes - TL says he met KC near her house where she ran out of gas on June 23rd - his cell ping records show he was there - KC says it never happened - so TL put the remains there -

:eek: dead on! oh god...:furious:

princess
08-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Casey is getting red eyes and holding back now.

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Crying with no tears again...

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:45 AM
6/1 through 7/15: agreed. Phone calls only. Produce in camera to judge. Include 7/15 through 7/23 no one discussed. Produce in camera to judge. 7/23 through 9/12. Produce in camera to judge. 9/13 through 12/18. Produce in camera to judge. Phone records only. All within 30 days.
They included the 15th-23rd...but they're already out.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:45 AM
Casey is crying!!! ugh!!!

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Thought they were moving on to the barring of LP and the rest?
GA is on the stand to argue against any info from LP being released -

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
What is the point of this exactly?

Oakley
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
here's how it goes - TL says he met KC near her house where she ran out of gas on June 23rd - his cell ping records show he was there - KC says it never happened - so TL put the remains there -

Her text messages verify that she ran out of gas three times, prolly with dates to support those times.

ETA: "KC says..." <rolls eyes> But what do the pings say?

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Oh great.. it's the "wtf are these" tears again.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
I think the Caylee button Daddy is wearing mat be getting to her!

crazyclan99
08-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Casey is crying!!! ugh!!! I usually just read here but I couldn't help post to this one....She is only crying because she knows that if the Padilla crew is allowed to testify....the defense is not going to be able to save her.....IMO

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:47 AM
Where's JB going with this?

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:47 AM
I wish GA would get closer to the dang microphone. I hear JB wayyyy too loud and clear and barely hear GA.

:banghead:

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:47 AM
GA is on the stand to argue against any info from LP being released -
JB stating -in a question to GA - that LP did all of this for publicity stunt

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:48 AM
She can't look her father in the eyes. Her eyes are every where but on him and if he looks toward her, that is when she quickly looks away.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:48 AM
Oh...GA is lying!

Mumsy
08-21-2009, 10:49 AM
Hello everybody,
I have been switching t.v. channels and can't find a channel on direct t.v. that is showing it live........can someone point me in the right direction?
TIA
Mumsy

KenoshaKid
08-21-2009, 10:49 AM
She can't look her father in the eyes. Her eyes are every where but on him and if he looks toward her, that is when she quickly looks away.

I hope its shame.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:50 AM
Hello everybody,
I have been switching t.v. channels and can't find a channel on direct t.v. that is showing it live........can someone point me in the right direction?
TIA
Mumsy

WATCH LIVE NOW: Casey Anthony In Court For 9:30AM Hearing On Motions

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:50 AM
George is hostile, uncooperative, and evasive. This trial is going to be something else! :eek:

crazyclan99
08-21-2009, 10:50 AM
Hello everybody,
I have been switching t.v. channels and can't find a channel on direct t.v. that is showing it live........can someone point me in the right direction?
TIA
Mumsy

TruTv, if you have it....Not sure of your channel though

PrintGal
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
George is such an a$$. He gets that smug look, blinks really fast and thrown his head back- would love a body language and kinesics expert's take on him.

Bluebelle
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Poor Caylee, no support from her grandfather.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Do we REALLY expect GA to tell the whole truth? I figured we'd get his version of what he wants to be the truth. :rolleyes:

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
GA is claiming that LP was security GUARD. LDB is trying to get GA to acknowledge that LP was protecting the bail BOND that Casey was security for.

lovelabs
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Oh...GA is lying!

Say it aint so, the Anthonys lying!!

:banghead:

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
JB stating -in a question to GA - that LP did all of this for publicity stunt
GA saying he didn't know LP put up remaining 50,000.00 bond for KC - even though he met with LP prior to KC being released on bond - he is acting like he doesn't know "anythin about anythin" and says he doesn't remember exactly what happened -
oh wow
supporting your daughter is one thing - this is something else

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Everybody wants to question George. Nobody wants to question Cindy. Why? Because they want to get out of there sometime today and if Cindy starts talking every one will be brain dead within a few minutes.

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:52 AM
GA: "I don't see the revelancy of this" OMG!!

karen7868
08-21-2009, 10:52 AM
Hello everybody,
I have been switching t.v. channels and can't find a channel on direct t.v. that is showing it live........can someone point me in the right direction?
TIA
Mumsy

Hi Mumsy. It is also on the channel TRUtv; however, they do take breaks and you don't get to hear everything.

Hope that helps.

Bluebelle
08-21-2009, 10:52 AM
OMG, George tried to not answer a question from the pros- like in the deposition!

Mumsy
08-21-2009, 10:52 AM
TruTv, if you have it....Not sure of your channel though

THank you very much.......she looks like she is crying??!!?

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Ga arguing, being confrontational, some things never change.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Who does GA think he is? I like that we're getting a preview of how he'll likely act during the trial.

SA Burke and the Judge will have none of this! Asking what the relevancy of things are? This isn't your little depo with Morgan. Answer the question!

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 10:54 AM
Casey knows she said some things she shouldn't have. She looks scared. JMO though.

princess
08-21-2009, 10:55 AM
GA: "I don't see the revelancy of this" OMG!!


LOL

I caught that. The A's love to use this.

Kimster
08-21-2009, 10:55 AM
It doesn't appear on my TruTV channel in Oregon... :-(

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 10:57 AM
Man oh man...LDB is going to nail this family to the wall in a major way during this trial. I cannot wait. The A's aren't going to be able to keep their stories straight with her quick, smart, concise questioning! I LOVE IT!

If I had one wish for this trial, it would be for miss Casey to take the stand and LDB to tear her a new one! that would be awesome!!!

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 10:57 AM
It doesn't appear on my TruTV channel in Oregon... :-(

I'm following it through here in Washington state: http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

Mumsy
08-21-2009, 10:57 AM
It doesn't appear on my TruTV channel in Oregon... :-(

commercials running now

RR0004
08-21-2009, 10:57 AM
George truly has selective memory.

PrintGal
08-21-2009, 10:58 AM
GA is such a piece of work.

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:58 AM
He's going to play the.. "Durr I'm stupid and don't know nothing 'bout anything" game.

That's not going to fly georgie

Reagan
08-21-2009, 10:58 AM
Man oh man...LDB is going to nail this family to the wall in a major way during this trial. I cannot wait. The A's aren't going to be able to keep their stories straight with her quick, smart, concise questioning! I LOVE IT!

If I had one wish for this trial, it would be for miss Casey to take the stand and LDB to tear her a new one! that would be awesome!!!

From your keyboard to Gods ears. :clap:

PrintGal
08-21-2009, 10:59 AM
He wore flip-flops to court? Really??!!

That astounds me more than his evasive and obnoxious manner. THAT I anticipated.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 10:59 AM
The pros is going to rip GA a new a$$hole during the trial. He can get as angry as he wants but she is not going to let him get away with half answers.

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 10:59 AM
Wow, I have never seen a case with so much info and so little of it relevant info. ~eye roll~

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 11:00 AM
The pros is going to rip GA a new a$$hole during the trial. He can get as angry as he wants but she is not going to let him get away with half answers.

ITA! I love love love it! :clap:

princess
08-21-2009, 11:00 AM
JB and his team are afraid of LP and company talking about the 2 different kidnap stories.

crazyclan99
08-21-2009, 11:00 AM
It doesn't appear on my TruTV channel in Oregon... :-(

KIM! Hi!!!! Its on Ashleigh Banfield:Open Court

New programming title "Jack Ford- Courtside"

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:01 AM
Nice that GA feels he can decide what is relevant and what is not. When exactly did he go to law school?

essies
08-21-2009, 11:03 AM
It looks like George tried to send KC a "I love you" message while leaving the stand! Her response seemed to be BLANK-no response that I could see!!

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:04 AM
Wonder how they'll explain Zanny and TL both being involved.

Kimster
08-21-2009, 11:05 AM
I'm following it through here in Washington state: http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspX

That works!!! :blowkiss:

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:05 AM
Baez admits doing legal research! (on the "privacy agreement"). He argues that the TITLE of the AGREEMENT creates confidentiality. He's also arguing that the bail bondsman was providing security, which were legal services.

Sammiejam
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Omg. Its just AGONISING listening to JB.

And here he goes again. Stating "facts" without evidence.

I am about to tear my hair out.

princess
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Wonder how they'll explain Zanny and TL both being involved.

Thats easy.

AH, JG, TL and a few others are the real Zanny.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Wonder how they'll explain Zanny and TL both being involved.

They'll use the Cindy explanation.......TL is zanny same as JG.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Wonder how they'll explain Zanny and TL both being involved.

Don't you remember? Zanny dated TL BEFORE she dated Jeff Hopkins. (J/K)

karen7868
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Casey knows she said some things she shouldn't have. She looks scared. JMO though.

Again, ITA with you IM.

I believe LP and his crew spent more time with KC than anyone after her arrest and won't hold anything back; i.e. her cooking dinner as if nothing happened, baking brownies, and I'm sure flirting with RD.

I think she is also talked and said "too much" to Tracy and RD and doesn't want any of it revealed.

She knows if they testify, she wil for surel get the DP.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:06 AM
Too bad JB didn't forsee his "flamboyant cowboy" telling LE and the DA what he heard while in the house :rolleyes:

Kimster
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM
Since when is LP an attorney? Legal services? I'm not hanging with that...

yeknomaras
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM
the last few times I saw KC I thought she was starting to look better... but today it doesn't look like she got a lick of sleep or had time to do up her face. she looks terrible today..

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM
Baez admits doing legal research! (on the &quot;privacy agreement&quot;). He argues that the TITLE of the AGREEMENT creates confidentiality.

I know.....did he really go to law school or did he buy his degree online?

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:07 AM
How can he claim "legal" services...when they just said it was "security"?

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
Don't you remember? Zanny dated TL BEFORE she dated Jeff Hopkins. (J/K)
OMG...of course!

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
JB said legal services, GA said security.

If this wasn't so serious I'd be LMAO!

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
Since when is LP an attorney? Legal services? I'm not hanging with that...

He's also mixing up work product into it.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
How can he claim "legal" services...when they just said it was "security"?

I don't know but I think I am going to buy me an online law degree because I think I could do at least as well as him and I know jack about the law.

Misfitdolly
08-21-2009, 11:09 AM
It looks like George tried to send KC a "I love you" message while leaving the stand! Her response seemed to be BLANK-no response that I could see!!

I think she is trying not to cry which could be why she didn't respond and for some reason her father taking the stand has struck a cord with her. It became clear to me after seeing her get upset at George up there that knowing he was going to be taking the stand could be why she came in to the court room looking so depressed and tired. I don't know why it would upset her so much but it seemed to me to be the cause of her distress.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:10 AM
LP IS an attorney. He has a law degree but doesn't really practice.

HTH's

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Interesting motion...

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Judge: "Why is your agreement with Leonard Padilla binding on me?"

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:11 AM
One final thought on JB...I listen to all of these others lawyers, defense, proscecution, and others and truly, if I was him I would be embarrassed. He sounds so unprofessional and unknowledgable (is that a word?).

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:11 AM
LP IS an attorney. He has a law degree but doesn't really practice.

HTH's

If he's not admitted in Florida, he's not practicing law when he bonds Casey out.

wenwe4
08-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Strickland just asked Baez why the court should be bound by JB agreement w/LP

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:12 AM
is incumpancy a word...gotta go look it up

spartanmom
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
ewwwww....she is really looking bad....I think you're all right on this one....I think her lawyer team has told her that there is a good chance she's staying in prison for a long time....:clap:

The Eunice Burns
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
He's going to lose this motion. JS is not buying the argument.
Here's your hat, Jose.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
Judge points out that there is a clause in the agreement that negates any possible agency argument. I want to stick a sharp pencil in my eye when I listen to JB argue. He is now arguing that the clause is overridden by the remainder of the argument.

100%Agave
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
All this begs the question, what exactly do the Padillas know that JB wants to keep out of court so bad?

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:14 AM
If he's not admitted in Florida, he's not practicing law when he bonds Casey out.

Oh I completely agree with you. I was just stating it for the record so to speak. :blowkiss:

spartanmom
08-21-2009, 11:14 AM
Strickland is sick of JB!!!

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:14 AM
Judge notes that he never got a TRO from Baez about all of LP's appearances on Nancy Grace. Judge asks, doesn't that mean the privacy clause has been waived?

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:15 AM
There's so much backpedaling here...I thought the whole agreement wasn't legal anyway...according to the legal eagles here.

wenwe4
08-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Strickland said he saw LP on NG or GVS shows, "isn't the horse already out of the barn?" such a "flamboyant cowboy"

Cherry Baby
08-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Strickland is right - JB never before asked the court to shut LP's trap. D'oh Baez!

PrintGal
08-21-2009, 11:15 AM
"I'm a little busy right now," smirk, smirk....

The smug is unbearable.

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:16 AM
Oh I completely agree with you. I was just stating it for the record so to speak. :blowkiss:

Got it. Just making my point for this fast-moving thread too.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 11:16 AM
is incumpancy a word...gotta go look it up

Must be Jose's Word of the Day.

spartanmom
08-21-2009, 11:17 AM
as are all of us (sick of JB and his antics)......not on topic, but, I like the states attorney, just wish all the women in these positions would have more appropriate hairstyles, I like long hair, but, it doesn't look good on everyone.....they all need more professional looking hairstyles.....sorry, i will quit typing now, it just really bugs meee:((

crazyclan99
08-21-2009, 11:18 AM
"I'm a little busy right now," smirk, smirk....

The smug is unbearable.

LOL...But of course, he is SOOOO worried about "tainting" the jury pool, that he is just going to go ahead and let Padilla spout about on a broadcast that is viewed all over the world...How contradictory!!!

He said himself, "This case is being tried in the public eye" if I remember correctly...yet, not going to stop it....until now...hmmmm

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:19 AM
oooh...they want to hear what they really object to!

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:20 AM
I freaking LOVE LDB! She got her points in about state of mind post bond :) :) :)

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:20 AM
She's getting hers in....ooh.

essies
08-21-2009, 11:20 AM
I wanna hear those CD's!!! http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww53/essie_bucket/2171.gif

sarah7855
08-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Tracy knows some good stuff, IMO. Can't wait to hear it.

Whyamisointerested
08-21-2009, 11:21 AM
I love how selective GA memory is. He can be so exact with certain days and times and clothing, however he cant remember how long LP was in his house, how much the bond was,where he was etc, such a joke,such bs, its so obvious, ...

Kimster
08-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Gee, if I remember right....LP CHOSE to bail KC out of jail and LP CHOSE to have someone stay with her to protect his monetary investment. I do not recall JB "hiriing" him for these services.

Just a bunch of crock.

Oakley
08-21-2009, 11:22 AM
GO LDB! A sharp gal.

The Eunice Burns
08-21-2009, 11:23 AM
I love how selective GA memory is. He can be so exact with certain days and times and clothing, however he cant remember how long LP was in his house, how much the bond was,where he was etc, such a joke,such bs, its so obvious, ...

Exactly. A common problem w/ people who are pathological liars.....they get into so much detail on things that many of us would honestly not recall, but things that us honest people would recall, they can't for the life of them remember.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:24 AM
If he was providing security...did they get paid?

Kimster
08-21-2009, 11:24 AM
If LP was hired, did they say how much JB PAID him?

Kimster
08-21-2009, 11:25 AM
If he was providing security...did they get paid?

LOL! GMTA!!! :highfive:

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:27 AM
This has been going on for 2 hours...no wonder I'm hungry.

Insomnia Momma
08-21-2009, 11:27 AM
Seems a light bulb went off in Casey's head and she's seeing that LDB put JB in his respective place. Did you see the look she gave JB? if looks could kill...

okiedokietoo
08-21-2009, 11:28 AM
LOL! GMTA!!! :highfive:
Yeal AL needs time to prepare for trial because she has to fix everything JB did wrong

Hell's Belle
08-21-2009, 11:29 AM
AL just handed JB a note on a notepad.

not_my_kids
08-21-2009, 11:30 AM
Is it just me or does Judge Strickland look 10 years older than he did when this hearing started?
Poor guy, he can't just turn them off.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:31 AM
Seems a light bulb went off in Casey's head and she's seeing that LDB put JB in his respective place. Did you see the look she gave JB? if looks could kill...
No, I missed that.

RR0004
08-21-2009, 11:32 AM
Now I get it...why GA said he wasn't eavesdropping...he's the 3rd party.

faefrost
08-21-2009, 11:32 AM
Gee, if I remember right....LP CHOSE to bail KC out of jail and LP CHOSE to have someone stay with her to protect his monetary investment. I do not recall JB "hiriing" him for these services.

Just a bunch of crock.

It gets even better. If you remember those early NG and GVS shows when LP first stepped in with bond. They were all making the very clear observation that under no circumstances could LP or his people be covered by privelege,a nd as a result JB must be an idiot for setting this up.

I seem to vaguely recall some discussion that under florida law bail bondsmen are specifically exempted from being participants in Attorney Client Privelege. Although I may be misremembering that one.