GA-Kristi Leigh Cornwell (38yo) abducted 8/11/09 Thread #2

[christine2448]

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I am sad such a tragedy is bringing us all together.

[wolfscratch]

That's it ... we know he didn't take a right at the intersection of 325 (Nottley Dam Rd) and 19/129, because if he had he would have headed right back to Blairsville .... that's why I think the perp was a local that knew the area and backroads well.

I agree, except for two reasons, the abductors were not aware LE had been notified of Kristi Cornwell's abduction, but if they had been notified. What location does LE respond too? Unless there is a advance plan by LE for responding to abductions in Union County, LE will respond to the abduction location, leaving other areas wide open as an escape route

On 01/01/08, Gary Hilton, actually headed into Blairsville on Hwy 129 after abducting Meredith Hope Emerson, from Blood Mtn. First he stopped to pump gas, was scared off by a customer pulling up next to his van, then he went to the Appalacian Bank; Blairsvile, GA, at 7:04 PM and attempted to use her ATM card, for over 15 minutes. Meredith refused to give him the correct PIN numbers. During the Four days that GMH, held her hostage, he attempted to use her ATM cards at two more banks, she persisted in giving him the wrong PIN numbers, buying time for a rescue by LE...

[txsvicki]

Has Pastor Davis ever mentioned on NG or another show verbally that the car was following Kristi or had stopped? I wish we could get it totally straight about that and the order it all happened. I know that I heard him say on NG that a car was coming and she had to get to the side of the road. I've read several things about it and it's getting mixed up for me whether it was scream struggle or struggle then scream or when the words "don't take me" were said.

[wolfscratch]

txsVicki,

Knox post #363 on page of the first 'Kristi Cornwell' thread, has a video of the Nancy Grace interview of Douglas Davis.
DD says 'these people' referring to the abductors. DD has stated many times that LE is censoring the full content of the cell phone conversation for investigation purposes.

[wolfscratch]

The following are some things to be aware of for the general public, to help bring Kristi Cornwell home to her family.

The Kristi Cornwell website also includes the following recommendations for assistance in looking for Kristi Cornwell:

Report activity such as observance of a vehicle being cleaned more than typical, especially one being cleaned with strong chemicals. Pay particular attention to vehicles fitting the description of vehicles of interest identified by investigators. At this time that includes a white, Suburban-like SUV and a gold compact, such as a Nissan or Toyota. Companies involved in auto upholstry should pay particular attention to unusual requests for rush re-upholstry jobs, especially for vehicles matching the descriptions above.
Special attention should be paid to purchases of large of amounts of cleaning supplies.

Look for recently burned vehicles,

recently sunken vehicles, recently wrecked vehicles being disposed of, someone trying to sell or trade a suspicious vehicle, especially one matching the descriptions of the vehicles .....
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http://www.nganews.com

Read the article about the truck being 'torched' on 08/21/09, as Retaliation for the Occupant of the House, preventing a home invasion, located on the front page of the North GA News; August 19, 2009; edition.

'Shortly after the Assailants left the back of the house, the Occupant Hears an Explosion' ?
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As a retired Haz Mat Fire Captain with the Atlanta Fire dept., that has extinguished hundreds of vehicle fires:

Vehicles seldom 'Explode' unless involved in an auto accident and then it is very rare.

IMO, this vehicle fire is of suspicious nature...
The pic in the NG News, show where the home invaders were trying to enter through a basement window when the occupant prevented their entrance. Home invaders don't normally enter through a window as do burgulars. It is doubtful that the home invaders would take precious time while retreating, to retaliate against the home owner by torching his truck....



The numb3rs don't add up to me...

[Knox]

Has Pastor Davis ever mentioned on NG or another show verbally that the car was following Kristi or had stopped? I wish we could get it totally straight about that and the order it all happened. I know that I heard him say on NG that a car was coming and she had to get to the side of the road. I've read several things about it and it's getting mixed up for me whether it was scream struggle or struggle then scream or when the words "don't take me" were said.

GRACE: That evening when you were on the phone with her, what was the last thing you heard her say? What were her words?

DAVIS: Well, as you know, due to the investigation the depth of that conversation I can`t really divulge at this time. However, I heard her scream and it made me -- my first reaction that maybe the car that she spoke about maybe had hit her. And so I was calling her name. But then it became quite apparent to me that she was indeed being abducted by whomever these people were in this car.

GRACE: She told you about a car?

DAVIS: Yes. Just before this all occurred we had been talking about plans. We were to meet the next Thursday night in Dalton. She was then to come back to deal with her -- getting her registration completed for school the next Monday, and we were talking about having dinner that Thursday night when she interrupted and said hey, I`ve got to get off the road there`s a car coming. And then it was just moments after that she began screaming.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/24/ng.01.html

[wolfscratch]

http://clintvanzandt.newsvine.com/_news/2009/08/17/3160211-how-to-escape-a-kidnapper

How to Escape a Kidnapper
News Type: Event — Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:38 AM PDTgeorgia, fbi, kidnapping, kidnapped, murdered, elizabeth-smart, gbi, meredith-emerson, kidnap-victim, lily-burk, kristi-cornwell, escape-a-kidnapper, escape-a-kidnapping, gary-michael-hilton, charles-samuelClint Van Zandt
Kristi Cornwell, age 38

Lily Burk, murdered in LA

Meredith Emerson, murdered in Georgia

Elizabeth Smart, rescued from her kidnapper
Seventeen-year-old Lily Burk was running some errands for her family on a sunny Los Angeles Friday afternoon when she crossed paths with the monster that would shortly take her life. July 24th was like most summer days for the popular teenager as she prepared for her senior year of high school. As she walked back to her Volvo she had an armload of paperwork that she was to deliver to her mother. Walking in the same area was 50-year-old Charles Samuel, a man who had been in and out of jail for somewhat minor offenses most of his life, and who also had arrests, but no convictions, for assault, kidnapping and robbery. He had just walked out of a local drug treatment facility, apparently wanted money and Burk looked like a logical victim, so he struck.

Samuel first forced Burk to use her credit card in an attempt to get money out of a nearby ATM, but the card wouldn't work, so her captor forced Lily to call her parents to tell them she needed money to buy shoes. Her father indicated Lily's credit card was not set up to allow cash withdrawals and without a hint of panic or fear in her voice, she indicated she would be home soon. She never made it. Samuel allegedly murdered Burk within the hour, and parked her car, with her body still inside, in a nearby lot. Samuel, convicted in 1986 of another assault and robbery related to an ATM in which he beat an elderly man in an attempt to get money, was arrested the following hour on unrelated drug charges. When Burk's car, and her body, was recovered the next day, Samuel's fingerprints were quickly matched to the unidentified latents found inside of the abandoned car. Her believed killer was arrested before he could strike again, but Lily Burk would never attend her senior year of high school, her high school prom, or get the chance to attend college.

Meredith Emerson was a smart 24-year-old martial arts student who knew her way around the north Georgia mountains, but when she was nice to an older man she met along a hiking she too became a victim, in her case of a 61-year-old monster passing as human. Gary Michael Hilton, the so called "Appalachian Trail Serial Killer," is believed to have killed at least six or more people, to include Emerson. In speaking of his kidnapping of Meredith, Hilton said he confronted her with a knife and demanded her ATM card. Hilton, who stated after kidnapping Emerson he "never had any intention of letting her go," said his victim fought for her life, taking both his knife and his collapsible baton from him until he began pounding her in the face with his fists, blackening her eyes and fracturing her nose. He then carried her to his van where he kept her chained for four days while he assaulted her, eventually chaining her to a remote tree after telling her "she was going home." He hit her several times with the metal handle from his car jack and then decapitated her because, as he said, "her hair was full of fibers" that could be forensically linked to his van. When asked why he didn't kill Emerson's dog, Hilton unbelievably said, "you gotta remember we had spent several good days together." Meredith Emerson is one more person whose full potential in life will never be realized because of the random actions of a human monster.

Georgia authorities are now entering their second week of searching for missing 38-year-old Kristi Cornwell. She disappeared shortly after 9 PM last Tuesday night, this while walking alone along a rural northern Georgia road that ran past her parent's home. Cornwell, a former probation officer, was talking to her Atlanta boyfriend on her cell phone as she walked. He says she indicated a car was slowing down, perhaps stopping near her. She then allegedly said "Please don't take me!" and the call was terminated. (Some have suggested this phrase could indicate that Cornwell knew or recognized her assailant and was pleading to be left alone, but if so, would she not have communicated something about her assailant to her boyfriend?) After calling Cornwell's mother first, her boyfriend then called the county sheriff's office who, along with Georgia Bureau of Investigation Agents, quickly began a search for the missing and presumed kidnapped woman. One or more personal items, believed to include a shoe believed to be hers, were quickly found along the roadside and on Friday, this three days after her disappearance, her cell phone was found on a lawn almost three miles from the assumed kidnap site. The location of the victim's cel phone suggest to authorities that her kidnapper may have throw the phone out of his car as he headed out of state (North Carolina) with his victim.

Hundreds of investigators have searched along the roadside where Kristi walked and near the location where her cell phone was found; to no avail. All of the usual suspects, in this case her three ex-husbands and her current boyfriend; dozens of local sex offenders and known sexual predators; recent prison releasees, and people she had supervised when she was a parole officer (she left that job in 2002) have been located, interviewed, and accounted for. Local residents have reported two suspicious vehicles that were seen the night Cornwell disappeared, to include a white SUV and a tan or gold Toyota-like car. These vehicles were not known to be owned by any local resident. At this time these cars and her cell phone (call records and possible latent fingerprints and/or DNA of her suspected kidnapper) appear to be the best tips going for police, but, as investigators have indicated, in a case like this time becomes the enemy of searchers and the chances of Kristi's survival lessen with each new day. Authorities must consider three scenarios in Cornwell's disappearance:

1) She was a victim of herself, the equivalent of Jennifer Wilbanks, "the real life Runaway Bride" who faked her own kidnapping in April 2005 just prior to her planned marriage. Investigators have so far found nothing about Cornwell's life that would lead them to suspect her involvement in her own disappearance.

2) She, like Lily Burk and Meredith Emerson before her, was a random victim of opportunity for a predator, i.e., someone who just happened to be driving along that dark, lonely road, saw the victim walking alone, and made an instant decision to "take her." This is obviously possible, but would, like in the referenced cases, require two totally distinct lives to happen to cross at the same time with potentially deadly results.

3) She was the victim of a stalker, i.e., someone who had specifically targeted her for abduction and who knew, by his surveillance of her, that she would likely be walking alone along the dark country road that night, something she regularly did for exercise. Some investigators believe this to be the most likely scenario, but if there was such a person in Cornwell's life, he should come up in the law enforcement investigation concerning her social and professional background.

No matter the reason for her disappearance though, investigators, civilian searchers, and Cornwell's friends and family members have not given up hope. After all, some say, it was just 1 1/2 years ago that Meredith Emerson was kidnapped and she vileantly managed to survive for days. Police were just hours behind her kidnapper, but by the time they found him Emerson was already dead. Then there was Elizabeth Smart, the Salt Lake City teenager whose kidnapper held her for almost a year before she was identified and rescued by authorities. It's almost impossible to ever give up hope when you know in your heart that your loved one could, just could be the one who, like Elizabeth Smart, beats the odds and survives her ordeal. As Beth Holloway Twitty, mother of still missing Natalee Holloway who disappeared on a high school graduation trip to Aruba in May 2005 once told me, "You gotta have hope."

How to Escape a Kidnapping

To escape a potential kidnapping, you must think in advance what you would do if confronted, this to insure you are ready to act as opposed to freeze up like "the proverbial deer in the headlights." Here are some points that anyone, child, man or woman should consider if the unthinkable happens and someone attempts to kidnap you:

1) Carry yourself as if you are savy citizen of the world. If your hands are full, if you appear lost or frustrated or otherwise carry yourself like an easy victim you may just be targeted for a crime, to include a kidnapping.

2) Never allow a kidnapper or carjacker to take you with them. Anyone who tries to take you to another location is more than a robber, and if he gets you to a remote location, he can have his way with you, including assault and murder. Make a stand where you are and do not, under any circumstances, allow your assailant to take you away with him.

3) If your assailant demands your purse, your wallet, and/or your car keys, give them to him. Consider throwing them on the ground in one direction while you run the other way. Make him choose between your money, your car, or your life. If walking with a friend, you should run away in opposite directions, making your assailant know that should he chase one of you, the other will escape and notify police, likely causing him to simply flee the area.

4) When you run from a potential kidnapper, run the opposite direction from his vehicle. By this, if his car is parked facing north, then you should run south (unless help is obviously nearby). This forces your assailant to turn his car around to pursue you, drawing even more attention to himself. Many potential kidnappers will just drive away in the direction their vehicle is facing, allowing you to escape. Yell for help as you run to draw further attention to yourself and your desperate need for help.

5) If your assailant has a knife or a gun, give up your purse, wallet and/or car and run from him. Don't trust him if he says "Just come with me and I won't hurt you!" Anyone who confronts you with a weapon would likely be willing to assault and even murder you. Some statistics suggest that police officers miss their first shot up to 75% of the time and criminals miss at least 95% of the time. In the worst case, I would rather be shot than surrender to an assailant who could easily shoot me later in a much more remote location. And even if shot at the scene of the confrontation, your assailant is not likely to continue his attempts to kidnap you, but will instead flee the area, allowing you to seek aid and assistance.

6) If forced into your own car or your kidnapper's vehicle, try to jump out the passenger door, or, if you are forced to drive, intentionally wreck the car before you allow your kidnapper to take you away.

7) If inside a vehicle, attempt to force your kidnapper to wreck the car by violently turning the steering wheel, or by stepping on his foot while he presses the accelerator pedal, or throw the gearshift into reverse, or pull the keys out and throw them out the window, hopefully while in view of people who witness your plight and help you in your escape. You can also jump from the front seat to the back seat of the vehicle, open a rear door and jump out. If forced into the trunk of a car, look for the glow in the dark handle that will allow you to open the trunk lid from within, or pull out every tail light wire you can find, thereby allowing police to perhaps make a traffic stop based upon inoperative tail or brake lights.

8) Have a family code word that if used immediately tells other family members that you are under duress and in danger. Something, perhaps like "remind my sister Joan that we're going shopping tomorrow," knowing you don't have a sister named "Joan," can quickly alert your friend or family member of your dire need for help.

Remember, you are thinking and fighting for your very life. Be prepared for such a situation, plan out your actions in your mind so you will know instinctively how to react, and you too will likely beat the odds and survive alive. All of the above can be situationally based, and your own escape plans may be different, this based upon your own unique situation. The bottom line, though, is that you are responsible for your own initial safety in a potential kidnapping situation and the plans you make today can help to save your life or the life of a loved one tomorrow.

[Kimster]

:praying:

This is breaking my heart...I so wish that somehow, someway, this woman is found alive!

[KaylynnCouture]

:praying:

This is breaking my heart...I so wish that somehow, someway, this woman is found alive!

Me too. She's in my prayers every night, along with her family.

[wolfscratch]

Just received an email from Monica Caison & CUE Center, on their 'National Awareness Road Tour, for the Missing'. The pics of the tour stops are very inspirational. I am sure that once the tour is successfully completed, Monica and her network of searchers will scour these mountains with a fine tooth comb, in Search of Kristi Cornwell. She is a kindred spirit...
Sure hope and pray that Blairsville, GA is not on their 2010 Road Tour...

[samantha17]

I would have thought with the $60K reward money that someone would come forth with some useful information .... alas nothing yet.

[wolfscratch]

I am sure Kristi Cornwell's family has been riding a roller coaster of despair and it is imperative for them to stay positive and have hope and faith for a miracle and her safe return.
With that said, a positive outcome of her abduction diminishes with every passing day. I have noticed that the media attention lessens each day, tips are scarce, and the case seems to be headed to the cold case files, IMO.
It is hard for me to understand how a human being could cause harm and put a victim and their families through such a devastating event.
The person or persons responsible for this tragedy have no concience, human emotions, or empathy for others.

The following link identifies many of the traits of the individuals responsible:


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_know_if_someone_is_a_sociopath

[wolfscratch]

An excellent article encompassing how the family of Kristi Cornwell is coping with the tragedy:

http://www.ajc.com/news/faith-helps-family-of-123729.html

[samantha17]

I am sure Kristi Cornwell's family has been riding a roller coaster of despair and it is imperative for them to stay positive and have hope and faith for a miracle and her safe return.
With that said, a positive outcome of her abduction diminishes with every passing day. I have the noticed that the media attention lessens each day, tips are scarce, and the case seems to be headed to the cold case files, IMO.
It is hard for me to understand how a human being could put a victim and their families through such a devastating event.
The person or persons responsible for this tragedy have no concience or human emotions or empathy for others.
The following link identifies many of the traits of the individuals responsible:


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_know_if_someone_is_a_sociopath

It seems more and more monsters are being born into our society each and every decade ..... sociopaths and psychopaths have no conscience or empathy for other human beings whatsoever ... it's very scary indeed.

[samantha17]

Also, if someone is known to have tortured animals or is torturing animals, they are more than likely psychopaths and their next victims will probably be a human being.

[wolfscratch]

It seems more and more monsters are being born into our society each and every decade ..... sociopaths and psychopaths have no conscience or empathy for other human beings whatsoever ... it's very scary indeed.

Yes, yet they wear the mask of sanity, allowing them to blend in with the rest of society, remaining anonomous and seemingly normal. It seems that when they act out their fantasies and are successful, they become more brazen, calculating, and hone their skills with more evil acts of violence.

[christine2448]

http://clintvanzandt.newsvine.com/_news/2009/08/17/3160211-how-to-escape-a-kidnapper

How to Escape a Kidnapper


Respectfully snipped for space...

#1, please remember copyright..only post 10% or less and then link. TIA.

#2, fanflippintastic info! I would love for you to post the research you have been doing relating in the Lighting the Way Home area! hint hint

[samantha17]

Yes, yet they wear the mask of sanity, allowing them to blend in with the rest of society, remaining anonomous and seemingly normal. It seems that when they act out their fantasies and are successful, they become more brazen, calculating, and hone their skills with more evil acts of violence.

I saw a very lengthy interview that Stone Phillips (used to be with 20/20) did with Jeffrey Dahmer recently. That was a chilling insight into the mind of a psychopath. Dahmer said he had always had thoughts and fantasies of murdering even as a child .... in the interview Dahmer was as cool as a cucumber like he was talking about the weather.

He said after his first victim that the rest were easy (there were many victims), and he loved the power and control he had over them. He said he chose only men he was attracted to (he was homosexual), and after playing with them for a length of time he killed and dismembered them so he could keep them close to him (even cannibalized some).

If one were to see Dahmer in any other kind of interview one would think he was just a very intelligent, articulate (although somewhat eccentric) individual, when in actuality he is a monster AND he looks just like the guy next door or the everyday guy at the supermarket .... that's the scary part, but then so do many murderers and criminals.

[wolfscratch]

I saw a very lengthy interview that Stone Phillips (used to be with 20/20) did with Jeffrey Dahmer recently. That was a chilling insight into the mind of a psychopath. Dahmer said he had always had thoughts and fantasies of murdering even as a child .... in the interview Dahmer was as cool as a cucumber like he was talking about the weather.

He said after his first victim that the rest were easy (there were many victims), and he loved the power and control he had over them. He said he chose only men he was attracted to (he was homosexual), and after playing with them for a length of time he killed and dismembered them so he could keep them close to him (even cannibalized some).

If one were to see Dahmer in any other kind of interview one would think he was just a very intelligent, articulate (although somewhat eccentric) individual, when in actuality he is a monster AND he looks just like the guy next door or the everyday guy at the supermarket .... that's the scary part, but then so do many murderers and criminals.

Samantha, it's all about the power and control over others, and reliving of their fantasies. Hilton, Bundy, Toole, Lucas, BTK, Fish, and the many before and after them. There may may be a pause in their activities, for several unknown reasons, but they will normally resume and escalate their evil deeds, until they are captured and brought to Justice...

[wolfscratch]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/mostread/s_481326.html

Criminals get tips from forensic television shows

By Jill King Greenwood
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, November 25, 2006

Nationwide, the number of rape cases going unsolved by police is increasing, and experts blame it on the "CSI effect," theorizing that rapists are gleaning clues from forensic television shows about how evidence left behind at crime scenes can lead to an arrest.
"These suspects are very cognizant about what they're doing and what evidence they're leaving behind," said Pittsburgh police Sgt. Paul McComb, a 26-year veteran who heads the bureau's mobile crime unit. "They know, because of all of these television shows, what can be tied to them. Most of them are already very cunning, but CSI and other shows show them how to be better. It's frustrating as an investigator.

"When the secrets get out about how we solve crimes, the criminals change their habits."

The experts agree.

According to the FBI, police nationwide cracked 41.3 percent of rape cases in 2005, down from 46.9 percent in 2000, the year of CSI's debut on CBS, and 51.3 percent a decade ago.

"They're making their victims shower or bathe," said former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt. "It gives the criminal with any common sense pause to think 'Hey, there's a way to cover my trail or conceal my DNA.' "

Over the years, McComb has heard stories from victims about the steps their attackers took in an effort to eliminate evidence.

[txsvicki]

Samantha, it's all about the power and control over others, and reliving of their fantasies. Hilton, Bundy, Toole, Lucas, BTK, Fish, and the many before and after them. There may may be a pause in their activities, for several unknown reasons, but they will normally resume and escalate their evil deeds, until they are captured and brought to Justice...


They'll continue even after capture and incarceration if possible. I read a book by a young man (can't remember the name) who wanted to enter the FBI after school and decided to write to serial killers portraying himself as their own perfect victim. He wrote to Dahmer who tried to manipulate every conversation or letter into a sexual type thing, of course to fit his fantasy. It was disgusting. Prison taught him nothing.

[wolfscratch]

They'll continue even after capture and incarceration if possible. I read a book by a young man (can't remember the name) who wanted to enter the FBI after school and decided to write to serial killers portraying himself as their own perfect victim. He wrote to Dahmer who tried to manipulate every conversation or letter into a sexual type thing, of course to fit his fantasy. It was disgusting. Prison taught him nothing.

Txsvicki, I saw a documentary on Dahlmer, which was very revealing. He had all the SK traits at a very early age. Many of his dirty deeds were never revealed, IMO. He was suspected as Adam Walsh's abductor by many people.
Actually I think prison did eventually teach him one of life's very important lessons.

[Knox]

http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=11004492
ALBANY, GA (WALB) - The GBI is poised to make an arrested in the murders of two people found in a Crisp County cotton field. A second body was found Thursday morning, about 24 hours after the first was discovered inside a burning SUV. The body found Thursday was in the field about 200 yards from where the SUV was found. Investigators won't say much about the mysterious deaths, but they believe they are closing in on a suspect. The Crisp County Sheriff's office has identified the owner of that SUV, but hasn't been able to locate that person. It was information from the community that lead them back to the field Thursday morning and they say they're closer to solving this case.

http://www.cordeledispatch.com/homepage/local_story_238173247.html

This a RUMOR, I repeat it is but a rumor at this point, that the bodies found in the burned SUV may be linked to the KC case. It bears watching as more developments are released.

[cleo612]

Crisp County? And what county does DD live in please? (I know, I know--he reportedly has an alibi--I'm just trying to get my bearings with locations.)

[lilacwine]

If there were two vehicles....

What if one took her in direction x

and the second vehicle took her cell phone and dumped it in the opposite direction to confuse things?

[wolfscratch]

Is Law Enforcement utilizing all available resources in locating the abductors of Kristi Cornwell?

The following is an alert for citizens to BOLO for the following vehicles of interest in her abduction:

'Pay particular attention to vehicles fitting the description of vehicles of interest identified by investigators. At this time that includes a white, Suburban-like SUV and a gold compact, such as a Nissan or Toyota'.

If these vehicles were eyewitnessed by someone. It would seem obvious that the occupant's behavior brought attention to them. It would also seem obvious that the occupants would be POIs and that a description or sketch, given to the media. The 'American Public' is a valuable resource that shouldn't be squandered due to antiquated strategies of holding valuable information close to the vest by Law Enforcement, resulting in yet another tragic 'cold case'.
During the search for Meredith Hope Emerson, 01/01/08 to 01/04/08, this strategy was employed. The media and other Sheriffs Departments in the adjacent areas were left out of the loupe. The result was Sheriffs Deputies and Park Rangers simply waving at Gary Hilton, in passing.
Once the POI description and vehicle info was shared with the media, He was captured less than 24 hours later.
"The time has come to bring Kristi Cornwell, home to her family, and her abductors to face Justice"....

[wolfscratch]

If there were two vehicles....

What if one took her in direction x

and the second vehicle took her cell phone and dumped it in the opposite direction to confuse things?

JMHO, lilacwine, that could be one scenario.

According to my info, Douglas Davis, called 911 in Cobb Co, GA after losing Kristi's cell connection. The cell was found 3.5 miles from the abduction site. (where her blue tooth was found along with her flip flop)
After determining that convincing the cobb co 911 operator was a lost cause. He called Kristi's mother, who then dialed union co 911, while responding in her car to the abduction site.
I am confident that Douglas Davis, would have attempted to redial Kristi's cell number, which may have alerted the abductors of the cell phone, causing them to dispose of it where it was found on Notterly Dam Rd.: Hwy 325.

Don't know if it is fact, but one of Kristi's searchers at Meeks Park; Blairsville, at the Meredith Hope Emerson Remembrance walk, said that there were 3 incoming calls on Kristi's phone, after the abduction.

[Knox]

JMHO, lilacwine, that could be one scenario.

According to my info, Douglas Davis, called 911 in Cobb Co, GA after losing Kristi's cell connection. The cell was found 3.5 miles from the abduction site. (where her blue tooth was found along with her flip flop)
After determining that convincing the cobb co 911 operator was a lost cause. He called Kristi's mother, who then dialed union co 911, while responding in her car to the abduction site.
I am confident that Douglas Davis, would have attempted to redial Kristi's cell number, which may have alerted the abductors of the cell phone, causing them to dispose of it where it was found on Notterly Dam Rd.: Hwy 325.

Don't know if it is fact, but one of Kristi's searchers at Meeks Park; Blairsville, at the Meredith Hope Emerson Remembrance walk, said that there were 3 incoming calls on Kristi's phone, after the abduction.

Thanks Wolfscratch, did you hear her bluetooth was found with the flip flop from a searcher or was that confirmed by LE?

[Le Singe]

I read that they made an arrest in the burned car case here:

http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=11007545

I'm a little be confused, is it suspected or even possible that the first body was KC I think I read in one of the other articles the body was too badly burn to even identify the sex? If not how might these cases be linked? It is my understanding that this crime happened in in the same area and it would be quiet a conisidence for to crimes of this magnitude to happen at around the same time in the same rural area. But I find it strange that none of the articles seem to mention any possible connection to the KC case and this seems strange I mean someone had to have ask that question. Or is it know that this was not dirrectly related?

If the body was hers it's is not the outcome anyone was hoping for, but be this point it is the most likely out come, and at least now her family would know where she is and to some degree what happened and can get some closure instead of being in limbo for year maybe even for ever like some families are.

[Knox]

LeSinge, I read the arrest article from this morning on that Crisp County burned SUV. I do not think this case is going to be related to KC. But at the time I posted the articles, there was some seemingly valid speculation/rumor that it may have been connected. My bad for posting something of that nature that was unconfirmed.

[Spyglass]

I read that they made an arrest in the burned car case here:

http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=11007545

I'm a little be confused, is it suspected or even possible that the first body was KC I think I read in one of the other articles the body was too badly burn to even identify the sex? If not how might these cases be linked? It is my understanding that this crime happened in in the same area and it would be quiet a conisidence for to crimes of this magnitude to happen at around the same time in the same rural area. But I find it strange that none of the articles seem to mention any possible connection to the KC case and this seems strange I mean someone had to have ask that question. Or is it know that this was not dirrectly related?

If the body was hers it's is not the outcome anyone was hoping for, but be this point it is the most likely out come, and at least now her family would know where she is and to some degree what happened and can get some closure instead of being in limbo for year maybe even for ever like some families are.

I did a lot of Google searching. No connection was speculated anywhere I read. Early on, the vehicle was reported as a burned van with a man's burned body. Then it was reported as a Ford Explorer and that it could not be determined without an autopsy whether the body was a man or woman.

The second body was found the next day (I can't remember if it was 200 or 400 yards away) and was reported to be an unburned black man.

[Spyglass]

LeSinge, I read the arrest article from this morning on that Crisp County burned SUV. I do not think this case is going to be related to KC. But at the time I posted the articles, there was some seemingly valid speculation/rumor that it may have been connected. My bad for posting something of that nature that was unconfirmed.

Thanks for your earlier post. This was certainly worth sleuthing, Knox, especially since the reports were that the vehicle was a van/Explorer (I kept looking for the color to be mentioned, but no vehicle color was mentioned.)

[Le Singe]

LeSinge, I read the arrest article from this morning on that Crisp County burned SUV. I do not think this case is going to be related to KC. But at the time I posted the articles, there was some seemingly valid speculation/rumor that it may have been connected. My bad for posting something of that nature that was unconfirmed.

no worries I was trying to understand what was going on. It is naturally to think there was some conection, I mean I wonder how many murders there are in a year in this county on average, I guess less than 5 so when two...actually 2 and one possible happen on the same day its something to look at.

Edit: maybe it's not the same county but still very close...

[Knox]

I just don't get the silence from both the family and GBI. Do you think GBI is closing in on a suspect or is it they may think she has disappeared of her own accord? Does anyone have handy the date of the last presser and or statement from either the family or LE?

[wolfscratch]

I just don't get the silence from both the family and GBI. Do you think GBI is closing in on a suspect or is it they may think she has disappeared of her own accord? Does anyone have handy the date of the last presser and or statement from either the family or LE?

Knox, the silence is deafening. I am very concerned that Kristi's Cornwell tragic story is going to fall off the radar and the public's interest, growing colder by the day, will diminish decreasing the chances of a successful outcome...

The media will move on to stories that peek the public's interest such as this strange and tragic News in CA:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-08-27-calif-kidnap-victim_N.htm?csp=34



By Marisol Bello, USA TODAY
The man suspected of snatching 11-year-old Jaycee Lee Dugard off the streets of her South Lake Tahoe, Calif., neighborhood 18 years ago called the kidnapping a "heartwarming story," in an interview with a local television station.
During a jailhouse phone interview with Sacramento station KCRA, Phillip Garrido, 58,

[samantha17]

I read the other day that there were 328 unsolved cases of females that went missing in the state of Georgia .... the article didn't say from what span of time ... I found that number astounding .... I wonder what the rate is in other states ???

[wolfscratch]

I read the other day that there were 328 unsolved cases of females that went missing in the state of Georgia .... the article didn't say from what span of time ... I found that number astounding .... I wonder what the rate is in other states ???

samantha17, that would be interesting to know, although I suspect that number to be an estimate and the actual number to be much higher. An example would be someone travelling through the state that vanished such as a tourist, runaways, prostitutes, etc.

Monica Caison, found a childhood friend in a morgue in Florida about a year ago that had been missing for decades. She was a Jane Doe.

Or they could simply be your neighbor: http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/27/california.missing.girl/index.html

Sheriff: Kidnap victim, children kept in backyard compound - ...
An 11-year-old California girl snatched from the street in front of her house in 1991 ... Terry, on Wednesday afternoon to tell her that Dugard had been found

[wolfscratch]

The Grand Finale of the National Road Tour. Monica Caison and the CUE Center would be a great asset in the search for Kristi Cornwell, IMO.
************************************************** ***

A quick note to say our national road tour is coming to and end, we have Myrtle Beach, SC at 11:00 am - Saturday the 29th and then will proceed to our grand finale in Wilmington, NC at 3:00 pm everyone is welcome to attend if able. Thanks to all of our families who took part in the rally stop and all the families and volunteers who showed up in support of the tour effort. I hope in some small way it brings comfort to know their are people out in the world who do care; I pray the tour brings forth a resolve to another case. Again, thanks to all for the continual support.


Monica Caison
CUE Center for Missing Persons

[wolfscratch]

http://www.nganews.com/viewer/default.aspx

read article on front page:

'TVA making changes to the Cliffs Area on Notterly Dam Rd'.

Says due to high crime; recent deaths, stolen items and vehicles being dumped in the water, drugs, etc...

very interesting...

[samantha17]

ironside, for every post that accuses D. Davis of Kristi's abduction, I will rebut it ..... there is not one shred of evidence to back those accusations .... don't you think if he was a suspect that the LE would be surveilling him 24/7/365 .... suspects are told to not leave the area but D. Davis has been all over this country giving interviews, including NYC which is very close to Canada where he could easily flee IF he was involved.

I do not know Mr. Davis, but from all the evidence brought forward in the media, I have come to the conclusion that he is in no way involved and I will keep repeating such. I believe people should shift the focus from Davis and offer other possibilities that could help in apprehending the real abductor. There have to be many people in Kristi's past that should be looked into, especially with her past career.

The character assassination of Mr. Davis is totally reprehensible and disgusting (he is a human being), when no one has brought forth any evidence whatsoever that he was involved in Kristi's abduction.

I would do the same for you, or anyone else, if people were assassinating your character with zero proof.

Credible witnesses/alibis in Atlanta questioned by LE have confirmed that D. Davis WAS in Atlanta ... what more proof do you need?

If you, or any of Davis' other tormentors, have proof otherwise then show it ... I would be curious of yours, and others, motives in continuing to accuse D. Davis? Do you know him and hold some sort of grudge against him?

I am going by what I have seen presented in the media and the evidence brought forward ..... if you know something (evidence/proof) that I don't know then feel free to share it.

[Knox]

ironside, for every post that accuses D. Davis of Kristi's abduction, I will rebut it ..... there is not one shred of evidence to back those accusations .... don't you think if he was a suspect that the LE would be surveilling him 24/7/365 .... suspects are told to not leave the area but D. Davis has been all over this country giving interviews, including NYC which is very close to Canada where he could easily flee IF he was involved.

Huh? :confused:

[Knox]

http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=107e6e4e-94c2-11de-9da2-03c498b1bd3e&T=19frs4ecp%2fX%3d1251567208%2fE%3d2022775853%2fR% 3dncnwsloc%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d8.1%2fW%3d0%2fY%3dPARTNER _US%2fF%3d272645892%2fH%3dYWx0c3BpZD0iOTY3MjgzMTU0 IiBzZXJ2ZUlkPSIxMDdlNmU0ZS05NGMyLTExZGUtOWRhMi0wM2 M0OThiMWJkM2UiIHNpdGVJZD0iNzQ1NTUxIiB0U3RtcD0iMTI1 MTU2NzIwODg5NzY2MiIgdGFyZ2V0PSJfYmxhbmsiIA--%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3dF40D8862&U=13rrpkh4t%2fN%3dv19IAGKID34-%2fC%3d600283624.600289583.403625917.400194292%2fD %3dN%2fB%3d1733560113733265272%2fV%3d2GBI unsure if Blairsville woman’s abduction was random or targeted
Kristi Cornwell spent years securing violent felons in prison and never got hurt. She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country – on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.
http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

BBM; Does anyone have a Facebook account? If so, please search for for "Pray for Kristi Cornwell" facebook group. There are some photo's of Kristi on that site that I would like brought here. If you copy links to pics and post, only those with FB accounts will be able to access. Can you just copy and paste them directly into a post instead? The account is a public account, so I do not think it would be against the rules, as long as you supply the link along with the photos. Christine2448, please correct me if I am wrong.

[Mazama]

http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=107e6e4e-94c2-11de-9da2-03c498b1bd3e&T=19frs4ecp%2fX%3d1251567208%2fE%3d2022775853%2fR% 3dncnwsloc%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d8.1%2fW%3d0%2fY%3dPARTNER _US%2fF%3d272645892%2fH%3dYWx0c3BpZD0iOTY3MjgzMTU0 IiBzZXJ2ZUlkPSIxMDdlNmU0ZS05NGMyLTExZGUtOWRhMi0wM2 M0OThiMWJkM2UiIHNpdGVJZD0iNzQ1NTUxIiB0U3RtcD0iMTI1 MTU2NzIwODg5NzY2MiIgdGFyZ2V0PSJfYmxhbmsiIA--%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3dF40D8862&U=13rrpkh4t%2fN%3dv19IAGKID34-%2fC%3d600283624.600289583.403625917.400194292%2fD %3dN%2fB%3d1733560113733265272%2fV%3d2GBI unsure if Blairsville woman’s abduction was random or targeted
Kristi Cornwell spent years securing violent felons in prison and never got hurt. She took firearms classes, taught self-defense and whizzed down the Dragon’s Tail – one of the most popular roads for bikers in the country – on her motorcycle. Yet she never had any problems.
http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

BBM; Does anyone have a Facebook account? If so, please search for for "Pray for Kristi Cornwell" facebook group. There are some photo's of Kristi on that site that I would like brought here. If you copy links to pics and post, only those with FB accounts will be able to access. Can you just copy and paste them directly into a post instead? The account is a public account, so I do not think it would be against the rules, as long as you supply the link along with the photos. Christine2448, please correct me if I am wrong.

I found the pictures. Can pictures be posted here without the link?

Maz

[Knox]

Thanks Mazama, I think as long as the link is supplied ALONG with the photo's (showing the source) we'll be good. Did you want to wait for a Mod to chime in?

[Mazama]

Thanks Mazama, I think as long as the link is supplied ALONG with the photo's (showing the source) we'll be good. Did you want to wait for a Mod to chime in?

Yes I would. I'm not positive but I believe linking to Facebook is not allowed.

Maz

[Knox]

Sent Adnoid a pm asking for help.

[Animal04216]

Just link to it please. We may decide to make an exception but will need to see first.

I found the pictures. Can pictures be posted here without the link?

Maz

[Mazama]

Pictures of Kristi:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=118931052146#/photo_search.php?oid=118931052146&view=all

Maz

[Knox]

Thank you Mazama, perfect! Does it say how old those two photo's with the MC and her friend are? They look more recent than some of the other photo's, give us a glimpse into what she enjoyed doing. A facet of her we had not seen before.

[Mazama]

Thank you Mazama, perfect! Does it say how old those two photo's with the MC and her friend are? They look more recent than some of the other photo's, give us a glimpse into what she enjoyed doing. A facet of her we had not seen before.

I'm sorry but I cannot see any dates associated with the pictures. :frown:

Maz

[wolfscratch]

I would like to salute the Kristi Cornwell family for their proactive aproach to providing the public, via the media, information that will increase the probability of a successful conclusion to the search.

Kristi Cornwell's updated link has valuable search tips etc:
http://kristicornwell.com/

(snipet of available links)
Community Support for Kristi Cornwell and Family
Kristi Leigh Cornwell
Photos of Kristi Cornwell
Video of Kristi Cornwell
Kristi Cornwell Missing Person Flyer
Kristi Cornwell Website Mobile Access
Recommendations for Assistance in Looking for Kristi Cornwell
Kristi Cornwell Reward & Search Fund
Thank You from the Kristi Cornwell Family
Requests from Kristi Cornwell’s Family
Information for Volunteer Pilots
Assistance from Kristi’s Family and Friends (NEW)
Kristi Cornwell Abduction in the News

[Knox]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:

[jaycee]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:I've wondered about that. I'd give it a 50-50 but I'm not sure why. Nothing indicates that she would do something like this.

Maybe I'm a wishful thinker that she is alive out there. Just a funny feeling about this...

[wolfscratch]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:

Knox, Absolutely not! Kristi Cornwell would not put her family through a tragic ordeal such as this, specifically her 15 year son, IMO.

I will say that Jennifer Wilbanks: 'the runaway bride', did have a vivid imagination. Seems that it took the FBI to unravel her story in the end.

son.http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/13/national/main695207.shtml

Runaway Bride's Sordid Sex Tale - CBS News
May 13, 2005 ... (CBS) Jennifer Wilbanks, the woman now known as the runaway bride for skipping town before her 600-seat Georgia wedding, is more than a ...

[angelmom]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:

You know, it has to cross your mind, but I just don't believe it. If that turns out to be true I will be stunned.

With the runaway bride, I told my husband when I saw the very first news report that she ran away. I didn't buy it for a minute. This story has something weird about it that bugs me, but when I try that one on for size it doesn't fit.

Something is definitely off, but you can color me WRONG if she staged this. I will eat my hat.

[Knox]

I think it's human nature to hope/want to believe that there can be an outcome other than the obvious. The quote from Tara G.'s Mom was a perfect example, you never give up hope they will come home.

Let's start from the beginning with this case and work forward to look for possible motives/theories. We can use the link Wolf provided at www.kristicornwell.com most of the news stories are linked in one place there.

[wolfscratch]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:

Excellent 4 page article that asks that same question:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2095177/kristi_cornwell_is_missing_was_her.html?cat=9


Kristi Cornwell is Missing: Was Her Abduction Staged?
August 23, 2009 by saul relative
Kristi Cornwell Disappeared on August 11 Almost Without a Trace
As time goes by and nothing new develops in the missing person case of Kristi Cornwell, one has to ask a question that does not seem to have been asked: Was Kristi Cornwell abducted or did she stage an abduction? This question is not asked to belittle or denigrate or smear the character
Kristi Cornwell is Missing: Was Her Abduction Staged?
Date: August 23, 2009
Blairsville , GA
United States of America of Kristi Cornwell, but a serious inquiry into a scenario that seems to have been overlooked or is being purposely ignored. So, could Kristi Cornwell, this church-attending, college-matriculating 38-year-old mother of a 15-year-old have staged her own abduction? And if so, why?

Kristi Cornwell disappeared from the side of the road on an evening walk in Blairsville, Georgia, a dozen days ago. Her missing person case was featured in a segment on "America's Most Wanted" Saturday, but authorities are remaining mute on the subject and no new information has been made public on Kristi Cornwell's case in the last few days. Law enforcement agencies are treating Cornwell's case as an abduction but as yet have no suspects.

[Spyglass]

Couldn't the slow-moving" vehicles that were sited get more publicity? I read this thread several times a day and even I've forgotten the specifics. White Suburban-type vehicle and small orange/rust car?

If there were two cars seen moving slowly maybe they were acting together. It seems it'd be a much larger clue for people in GA/NC that have seen these type cars together because the owners were roommates/relatives/friends.

I haven't seen any LE release regarding whether security tapes at gas stations/convenience stores were checked (before they were taped over).

The car Jaycee was seen being kidnapped in has been sitting there all these years.

[carlos1111]

What about the 15 year old son? What do we know about him? Could he and/or his friends be behind it? Maybe she told him he could not do this or that etc...I dont think I have heard anything about him.

[angelmom]

What about the 15 year old son? What do we know about him? Could he and/or his friends be behind it? Maybe she told him he could not do this or that etc...I dont think I have heard anything about him.

After reading here long enough, you learn not to dismiss the possibility. But, again, I think if the son were that messed up we would have heard rumblings by now.

Remember the case recently where the teen boy broke into his neighbor's house and killed her? I'm trying to think of enough details to do a search. But within 24 hours both the media and LE had pegged him as hinky. He was front and center with the news coverage, and neighbors were leaving comments on the articles about him.

I would think that LE has interview KC's son extensively by now to see what her routine was and who her friends were. I think they would have picked up on a kid who was that disturbed, and the rumors would be flying.

[Knox]

What about the 15 year old son? What do we know about him? Could he and/or his friends be behind it? Maybe she told him he could not do this or that etc...I dont think I have heard anything about him.

Hi Carlos1111, it has been said Kristi had a very close relationship with her son, but that he has lived primarily with his dad since the divorce. There has been nothing to suggest that would be a possibility IMO.

Meanwhile the family tries to find stability in routine. Last week, Kristi Cornwell’s 15-year-old son, Brody, went back to band practice, and his friends have been keeping him busy, Jo Ann Cornwell said. Kristi Cornwell shares custody of Brody with one of three ex-husbands. Kristi’s father Harold told a TV interviewer that some family members have been operating on as little as one hour of sleep a night. “He is doing as well as can be expected,” Jo Ann Cornwell said of her husband. “He can’t believe it happened and he is just dealing with it the best he can, just like the rest of us are.

http://www.ajc.com/news/faith-helps-family-of-123729.html

[Spyglass]

Another car-related thought. Couldn't they add a field listing the current year/make/model car in the entries in the sexual predator database and for convicted felons still on parole? The SO's and paroled perps are required to report current address, why can't they be required to give info on any current vehicles they drive?

[Knox]

After reading here long enough, you learn not to dismiss the possibility. But, again, I think if the son were that messed up we would have heard rumblings by now.

Remember the case recently where the teen boy broke into his neighbor's house and killed her? I'm trying to think of enough details to do a search. But within 24 hours both the media and LE had pegged him as hinky. He was front and center with the news coverage, and neighbors were leaving comments on the articles about him.

I would think that LE has interview KC's son extensively by now to see what her routine was and who her friends were. I think they would have picked up on a kid who was that disturbed, and the rumors would be flying.

Was that the Utah case angelmom? Trying to recall the details ... His Mom was good friends with the neighbor, they lived across the street, her two kids were asleep in the home during the murder, the boy even shook hands with the husband after her body was discovered and said how sorry he was. I don't remember what the motive was though.

Another car-related thought. Couldn't they add a field listing the current year/make/model car in the entries in the sexual predator database and for convicted felons still on parole? The SO's and paroled perps are required to report current address, why can't they be required to give info on any current vehicles they drive?[/I]

Great thought Spyglass, I bet they have done this already even on those who are not felons or parolee's. So little has been said after the initial report on the those two vehicles. I think LE initially was given the info on the two unfamiliar cars from an eyewitness/local, then they searched the gas station video's and evidently found some poor quality footage. That is not a confirmed fact BTW.

[panthera]

Does anyone think there is a possibility that KC "staged" this abduction? I don't think it fits, but have nothing to back it. No new news on the case other than an update on the fundraiser that was held yesterday at the skating rink. Nineteen days since she disappeared, still hoping for a positive outcome :prayer:
Hi! I was just reading through here trying to catch up on what may have happened to Kristi since I haven't been here for a few days. I just can't believe she would've staged an abduction while apparently going out for her evening walk. Didn't she just have her cell phone with her and nothing else (such as money) and wasn't she wearing only a t-shirt, shorts and shoes or flip flops? If she staged it, who helped her? I still can't help think though that her abduction wasn't entirely random. MOO

[angelmom]

Was that the Utah case angelmom? Trying to recall the details ... His Mom was good friends with the neighbor, they lived across the street, her two kids were asleep in the home during the murder, the boy even shook hands with the husband after her body was discovered and said how sorry he was. I don't remember what the motive was though.

That's the one! I think the motive was that he was a sick little SOB, but hey, that's just me.

[panthera]

Was that the Utah case angelmom? Trying to recall the details ... His Mom was good friends with the neighbor, they lived across the street, her two kids were asleep in the home during the murder, the boy even shook hands with the husband after her body was discovered and said how sorry he was. I don't remember what the motive was though.





Kimberly Hain, murdered in her home in Utah

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84510&highlight=utah+woman+murdered

[Knox]

Yes, that was the name thank you Panthera, I hope her family is healing and finding a way to cope with the loss of their loved one.

I agree, I cannot even fathom someone hurting their loved one's by pulling that kind of selfish act (disappearing). Besides as I have said before I put a lot of weight in what the charts say, and they do not indicate she willingly left of her own accord.

[panthera]

Yes, that was the name thank you Panthera, I hope her family is healing and finding a way to cope with the loss of their loved one.

I agree, I cannot even fathom someone hurting their loved one's by pulling that kind of selfish act (disappearing). Besides as I have said before I put a lot of weight in what the charts say, and they do not indicate she willingly left of her own accord.
I looked and I can't find anything new on that case so I guess the next thing will be when the guy goes to trial.


I just can't get past the feeling that whoever took Kristi knew who she was. The area seems so remote that it would have to be someone local, who I think would be found out by now, or somebody who knew where she lived and took advantage of the opportunity while she was out walking at night. If Kristi were a young woman in her 20s or a child I could more easily see it being a total stranger. Just MOO

[MnkeyBznes]

There was a murder here the same night Kristi disappeared. Apparently unrelated. This woman was killed supposedly by a jealous man-friend. He has already been arraigned, pled guilty and been sentenced. 12 days from murder to prison. Even in our little town this is the fastest trial I have ever seen.
www.nganews.com

[txsvicki]

I don't think Kristi staged her own abduction, but wish she did and hope I'm wrong. With her living in an apartment, going to school, churches, working where ever she worked, getting online, and being at her parent's, any number of weirdos could have targetted her for abduction. I'd say they should look online especially, then everywhere else. If the family can afford it they should hire the best private detective agency that they can find. After what happened with Jaycie any scenario is possible and the police will not be able to catch anyone because they really don't go to extraordinary lengths. Jaycie's case proved that to the public. I just wonder if they really have looked at window peepers caught near where she lived and at any rapists and abductors in any of the areas where she lived. Even men convicted of stalking women.

[wolfscratch]

There was a murder here the same night Kristi disappeared. Apparently unrelated. This woman was killed supposedly by a jealous man-friend. He has already been arraigned, pled guilty and been sentenced. 12 days from murder to prison. Even in our little town this is the fastest trial I have ever seen.
www.nganews.com

Yes, that was a rapid trial. Must have been self service Justice..
There was also a car chase by LE, that originated from the murder scene and ended up in TN. Didn't hear an explanation in the media for the reason the suspect ran from police.
I am still scratching my head concerning the truck fire(explosion) during a home invasion. Nothing made sense in that incident, except maybe someone wanting to destroy a perfectly good truck.

[MnkeyBznes]

Yes, that was a rapid trial. Must have been self service Justice..
There was also a car chase by LE, that originated from the murder scene and ended up in TN. Didn't hear an explanation in the media for the reason the suspect ran from police.
I am still scratching my head concerning the truck fire(explosion) during a home invasion. Nothing made sense in that incident, except maybe someone wanting to destroy a perfectly good truck.

I have not heard what the car chase was about either, but the explosion story is that there was an attempted home invasion. Two people broke out a basement window and the homeowner "took measures" to keep them from entering the home and shortly after the homeowner heard an explosion, looked out and his truck was on fire. They speculate is was retaliation for the homeowner protecting his property. Makes no sense to me.

[wolfscratch]

I have not heard what the car chase was about either, but the explosion story is that there was an attempted home invasion. Two people broke out a basement window and the homeowner "took measures" to keep them from entering the home and shortly after the homeowner heard an explosion, looked out and his truck was on fire. They speculate is was retaliation for the homeowner protecting his property. Makes no sense to me.

'Shortly after the Assailants left the back of the house, the Occupant Hears an Explosion' ????
************************************************** ******
As a retired Haz Mat Fire Captain with the Atlanta Fire dept., that has extinguished hundreds of vehicle fires:

Vehicles seldom 'Explode' unless involved in an auto accident and then it is very rare.

IMO, this vehicle fire is of suspicious nature...
The pic in the NG News, show where the home invaders were trying to enter through a basement window when the occupant prevented their entrance. The occupant said that he heard the explosion from the basement?
Home invaders don't normally enter through a window as do burgulars. They normally crash in the front or back door or pretend to be a delivery etc.
It is doubtful that the home invaders would take precious time while retreating, to retaliate against the home owner by torching his truck....

One of the 'things to be aware of', on the Kristi Cornwell website, is recently burnt vehicles. The occupant and truck owner says that he hasn't moved the truck in over a month and only uses it to haul his motorcycles...



The numb3rs don't add up to me...

[Knox]

Tuba's latest;

One thing we know for a dead cert, there had been a past contact because the Moon at 28° Aries had last been over the figure who ambushed her, Uranus. The contact could be as casual as someone running his grocery cart over your foot, however. In the past, she worked with those confined or who had been incarcerated and that is apparent because her rulers are in the House of prisons, jails, institutions, nursing homes, hospitals etc. And NOT in a medical Sign. The ruler, Uranus, of that department is now up in her grill during this ambush and Uranus does rule one who has been released, assuredly. But Uranus also rules divorced mates, and House 12 rules the past as well as all listed above. Nevertheless, Aquarius and Pisces shout institutions. The thing is, no ex-con had grief from her because her planets only benefited self & others, are nowhere in the horoscope afflicted to anyone or anything. So why would anyone have a rod in pickle for Kristi? Because he or they are demented~possibility. I always think we make a mistake when we try to think about a criminal's motives and paranoia as reasonable. If reasonable, he wouldn't be commiting the crime.

AND


From the hills, to the hills (of Blairsville) & back to the hills of North Carolina. But look at a pond or lake. Venus does rules House 8 and is in Cancer.

Mars in the assault and abduction is on the Fixed Star Capella. That is not a bad star but when with Mars, it turns the interest to "low subjects", mental slumming. The perpetrator(s) was therefore not only violent but had his mind in the gutter.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88071&page=2

Food for thought and discussion. The actual chart and more can be found at the link above.

[wolfscratch]

Tuba's latest;

One thing we know for a dead cert, there had been a past contact because the Moon at 28° Aries had last been over the figure who ambushed her, Uranus. The contact could be as casual as someone running his grocery cart over your foot, however. In the past, she worked with those confined or who had been incarcerated and that is apparent because her rulers are in the House of prisons, jails, institutions, nursing homes, hospitals etc. And NOT in a medical Sign. The ruler, Uranus, of that department is now up in her grill during this ambush and Uranus does rule one who has been released, assuredly. But Uranus also rules divorced mates, and House 12 rules the past as well as all listed above. Nevertheless, Aquarius and Pisces shout institutions. The thing is, no ex-con had grief from her because her planets only benefited self & others, are nowhere in the horoscope afflicted to anyone or anything. So why would anyone have a rod in pickle for Kristi? Because he or they are demented~possibility. I always think we make a mistake when we try to think about a criminal's motives and paranoia as reasonable. If reasonable, he wouldn't be commiting the crime.

AND


From the hills, to the hills (of Blairsville) & back to the hills of North Carolina. But look at a pond or lake. Venus does rules House 8 and is in Cancer.

Mars in the assault and abduction is on the Fixed Star Capella. That is not a bad star but when with Mars, it turns the interest to "low subjects", mental slumming. The perpetrator(s) was therefore not only violent but had his mind in the gutter.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88071&page=2

Food for thought and discussion. The actual chart and more can be found at the link above.

A great link for showing the numerous lakes and ponds in the massive Chat Nat Forest. The numerous streams, creeks, and rivers all have ponds up and down them; some man made and some from nature: Beaver dams and waterfalls:

http://ngeorgia.com/ang/Forgotten_Lakes_of_the_Chattahoochee_National_Fore st

[wolfscratch]

Snipet from Tuba's reading:

'Because he or they are demented~possibility. I always think we make a mistake when we try to think about a criminal's motives and paranoia as reasonable. If reasonable, he wouldn't be commiting the crime'.

This statement from Tuba, is very thought provoking. My interpretation is that the abductors of Kristi Cornwell are sociopathic and or psychopathic individuals with a criminal past that indicates that they were intitutionalized in the past.

I am confident that Kristi Cornwell gave signs to Douglas Davis, in the cell phone conversation, that are obvious to the trained investigator or criminal profiler, that aren't being released to the public. This is why LE is leaning towards a stranger on stranger abduction, IMO.
The signs are very important to the ones responsible for getting deep into the minds of her abductors. I sure hope these signs aren't ignored, giving the abductors time to erase their tracks, moving on to another innocent victim or victims...

[Le Singe]

I'm starting to wonder if the 'suspicuous vehicles' are now thought to be not involved b/c we haven't heard anything more about them. Usually they would say we are looking for such and such a vehicle and then show a generic picture of that type of vehicle. It seems strange to not have any new comment from anyone in days...

[wolfscratch]

In urban areas security cameras are in abundance and have been invaluable in solving many criminal investigations. However in the vast National Forests, State WMA's and private land, there is a mobile camera of sorts that record suspicious acts of others. This mobile security camera is the Hunters of the Forests. They rely on natural instincts and are the trained eyes, ears, and minds of the Forests.
Every year hunters discover the residue of the evil acts that occured in the forests during the off season. The remains of missing & murdered victims are discovered and investigations resolved.
September 5, 2009 is opening day for dove season. As most lakes, ponds, and streams are in low lying areas. Hunters will frequent many of the areas of concern.
Bow Season kicks off September 12, 2009. Hunters normally prescout out their favorite hunting sites for stand placement and animal signs and patterns. Mountain ridges, saddles, valleys, fields, etc. are all explored. This valuable resource should not be ignored in the search for Kristi Cornwell.
It is imperative that any info gathered by these hunters be shared with LE and vice versa, IMO.

[samantha17]

From the hills, to the hills (of Blairsville) & back to the hills of North Carolina. But look at a pond or lake. Venus does rules House 8 and is in Cancer.

The perp(s) fled from the crime scene via hwy 325 (Nottely Dam Rd where the cellphone was tossed) bypassing the town of Blairsville .... Nottely Dam Rd ends at hwy 19/129 ..... they had to have turned left going into NC .... if they had turned right they would have headed back into Blairsville.

[samantha17]

A great link for showing the numerous lakes and ponds in the massive Chat Nat Forest. The numerous streams, creeks, and rivers all have ponds up and down them; some man made and some from nature: Beaver dams and waterfalls:

http://ngeorgia.com/ang/Forgotten_Lakes_of_the_Chattahoochee_National_Fore st

There are also several other national forests in this area including Cherokee National Forest, Nantahala National Forest, Pisgah National Forest and the Great Smokey Mountain National Park ... much of this area is very rugged, mountainous terrain.

[wolfscratch]

There are also several other national forests in this area including Cherokee National Forest, Nantahala National Forest, Pisgah National Forest and the Great Smokey Mountain National Park ... much of this area is very rugged, mountainous terrain.

Yes, Samantha17, the tri state region is a predators hunting and hiding ground. There are so many variables to consider in Kristi Cornwell's abduction.

Although the international cartels are rampant in these primitive forests, bringing in many untraceble and ruthless undesireables, and as a result, violent crime to normally peaceful, safe, and tranquil communities, such as Union County, GA.
It was very obvious that the community members that had gathered at Meeks Park, the Saturday following Kristi Cornwell's abduction, for the Meredith Hope Emerson Remembrance Walk, were distraught that two women had vanished from their area without a trace...

Many of the pot growers, and meth producers are home grown..
In the same area where John & Irene Bryant were abducted; Pisgah Nat Forest, NC, by Gary Michael Hilton, a pot growing operation and amunition depot was discovered a few months ago. The suspect arrested was from the Pisgah area.
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?

query=pisgah+nat+forest+NC+marijuanna+arrest&s_it=keyword_rollover

(Note the date on the threat assessment)


Marijuana - North Carolina Drug Threat Assessment
Dec 5, 2000 ... Cannabis growers frequently use federal forest land, particularly in ... is widespread in areas including the Pisgah and Nantahala National Forests in the western part of the state. ... In March 2002 local law enforcement officials arrested four ... North Carolina Legislators Stiffen Marijuana Laws ...




http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/pot.eradication/


Mexican cartels running pot farms in U.S. national forest - ...
Authorities say Mexican drug cartels send illegals to grow marijuana in forest; $1 billion worth of marijuana plants destroyed in Sequoia National Forest,

[wolfscratch]

I'm starting to wonder if the 'suspicuous vehicles' are now thought to be not involved b/c we haven't heard anything more about them. Usually they would say we are looking for such and such a vehicle and then show a generic picture of that type of vehicle. It seems strange to not have any new comment from anyone in days...

Not strange at all, Le Singe. This is the antiquated strategy used by many Law Enforcement Agencies, which seem to place priority of proscecution over the rescue of the victims, IMO. This SOP has caused many cases to go cold.
In the Cheryl Dunlap investigation; Leon Co, FL, a black dodge PU and a camo toyota PU were vehicles of suspicion. After over a year and half later, it has not been revealed if these vehicles were ever located.
Communication and the use of all available resources has been proven to be a much more effective strategy to insure 'Public Safety, IMO..

[gaia227]

I know this has been mentioned before but the phrasing 'please don't take me' just doesn't seem natural to me. I have thought that from the beginning. Of course we never know how we will react or what we would say in a situation like that but it still seems like a weird thing to say. If she managed to stay relatively cool-headed while being grabbed I can see her saying 'please don't take me' as a way of warning her BF she was being abducted.

The fact that LE says they found evidence of a struggle at the scene supports the story she was abducted and at this point I have no reason to believe otherwise. I don't think she staged it but I can't completely rule it out either.

Regardless, I just hope they find her soon.

[Speak Out]

I'm starting to wonder if the 'suspicuous vehicles' are now thought to be not involved b/c we haven't heard anything more about them. Usually they would say we are looking for such and such a vehicle and then show a generic picture of that type of vehicle. It seems strange to not have any new comment from anyone in days...


Every news report that I've read from the beginning until now has said that they are looking for a white suv and gold or tan compact car. Not sure what more they could add to that. . . If that's all the description they have, then that's all that they can put out to the public.

As for not having a comment from anyone in days, there won't be any updates until there is something new to add. Right now, there just isn't any additional information to give. That doesn't mean that the case isn't being worked. It just means that they are still working on it, but don't have anything new to report.

Please keep praying for a break in this case!

[Knox]

Every news report that I've read from the beginning until now has said that they are looking for a white suv and gold or tan compact car. Not sure what more they could add to that. . . If that's all the description they have, then that's all that they can put out to the public.

As for not having a comment from anyone in days, there won't be any updates until there is something new to add. Right now, there just isn't any additional information to give. That doesn't mean that the case isn't being worked. It just means that they are still working on it, but don't have anything new to report.

Please keep praying for a break in this case!

Thank You Speak Out, sounds like you may be local ... Please keep us up to speed, just in case some "additional information" becomes available. People are here to discuss this case, part of that is wondering why GBI or the family has not held any recent press conferences. John Q. Public is a tremendous resource for LE, but they have to be reminded of what they need to be looking for ... Sometimes silence is not golden.

[samantha17]

I found the new information below from another blogger on another site very interesting ... I'm dumbfounded as to why the LE is with holding this info from the public and more info of what D. Davis heard during that 5 minutes ??? Time is vital in finding Kristi and too much info is being shushed by the LE.

[nursebeeme]

I come here daily to check on Kristi. I pray for swift resolution.

[tiredblondy]

samantha17...Thank you for your post. It was very informative. I've suspected this all along.

[MnkeyBznes]

I found the new information below from another blogger on another site very interesting ... I'm dumbfounded as to why the LE is with holding this info from the public and more info of what D. Davis heard during that 5 minutes ??? Time is vital in finding Kristi and too much info is being shushed by the LE.

"There is more information that they cannot release to the public. Doug Davis is NOT a suspect. Kristi's phone was on for almost 5 full minutes...she struggled with her abductors (more than 2)and Davis heard a great deal of this struggle. I live 8 miles from Kristi's parents' home and know this area...I travel it daily..I do believe that she was targeted but it was not by Davis. He has witnessess and he has been fully cooperative. I thank God that Davis was on the phone with Kristi so that we know as much as we know!

Why not pick on her husband of 60 days that she divorced back in March? Why not target the motorcyclists she met on the Dragon's tail a few months earlier...why not target the man that skipped his parole meeting and fled from this area 5 days earlier that I've heard had Kristi as a parole officer? Why not target a local trucking company that has truckers coming in and out of that area all the time? Come on people...you are ranting over things you are clueless about."

Samantha, could we have a link to this blog please?

[wolfscratch]

Simple 'Media Management'...

[txsvicki]

[quote=samantha17;4102623]I found the new information below from another blogger on another site very interesting ... I'm dumbfounded as to why the LE is with holding this info from the public and more info of what D. Davis heard during that 5 minutes ??? Time is vital in finding Kristi and too much info is being shushed by the LE.



If there really were more than 2 abductors, wouldn't this really be a different type of abduction? What group of people would go into cahoots together and abduct a woman, unless maybe one or two of them didn't realize the other was going to do it and feels they can't come forward. I'd say maybe people on parole, ex cons, or relatives of the ring leader.

[wolfscratch]

Douglas Davis said, "these people that abducted Kristi"

[Knox]

Samantha, could we have a link to this blog please?


Here you go ...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-ga/T0H9ML529CHVUHS3S/p10

[Speak Out]

I wouldn't give any credibility to info posted on the Topix site. There is no registration or email required to post. People just type in whatever name they choose and say whatever they want. It's gossip, hear-say, pranksters posting crazy info, and people bickering back and forth - sometimes with themselves posing as 2 different people. It doesn't take long as you read through to see that it's not a reliable source.

[Kat]

Just checking in for Kristi. Thank you everyone that is working so hard to keep us informed. I appreciate it very much.

[Le Singe]

I have not heard what the car chase was about either, but the explosion story is that there was an attempted home invasion. Two people broke out a basement window and the homeowner "took measures" to keep them from entering the home and shortly after the homeowner heard an explosion, looked out and his truck was on fire. They speculate is was retaliation for the homeowner protecting his property. Makes no sense to me.

I wonder what the bolded means, maybe it's because I live deep in the south and not too far from texas but here "took measures" means shot the #$%@ out of...:croc:

[Le Singe]

This story has something weird about it that bugs me, but when I try that one on for size it doesn't fit.


I feel the same way exactly can't put my finger on it but something seems odd.

[Le Singe]

The perp(s) fled from the crime scene via hwy 325 (Nottely Dam Rd where the cellphone was tossed) bypassing the town of Blairsville .... Nottely Dam Rd ends at hwy 19/129 ..... they had to have turned left going into NC .... if they had turned right they would have headed back into Blairsville.

I don't think we should assume this right now based on the extremely limited info I have I would put the top two most likely scenarios as 1. A stranger abduction (not a total stranger it more than likely may have been someone she met incidentally who has been stalking/watching her). 2. or a staged crime (not saying I think this happened, but based on my own opinion this is the second most likely outcome).

In the case of number 1 I think actually these crimes are almost always committed close to a significant location for the offender (i.e. work or home). It seems counter intuitive to someone like me (and I think most normal ppl), but I think there is some scientifically verifiable data to back this up. I would say it's at least as likely that the person maybe went that way for awhile maybe to see if he was being followed etc. and then doubled back to town. Obviously I don't know how they went and I’m not at all familiar with the area (closet I've been is Atlanta), but I would be surprised if the person that did this does not either live, work, has a camp, hunts very frequently, or has a close frequently visited friend or relative in this area. (This is assuming a random act or stranger/stalker act).

One thing I've been wondering is if the cell phone still had a charge it seems it could have been pinged at any time from the abduction till it was found. So I wonder if it was pinged between those times. I don't know how much red tape has to be cleared to get this done but in the case of abduction it would be the first thing I would try to have done. The reason I wonder is, is it possible the offender did not throw the phone out immediately (i.e. during the crime). As sometimes offenders sometimes revisit the scene and definitely keep things from the victim. Maybe he threw it out a day or two later...maybe just to get rid of it, maybe to stir up media b/c it give him a thrill, or maybe in an attempt to show he was leaving the area. I don't know how the technology works, if it keeps a running record of what towers you can see or if they can just give you a real time snap shot of this info if you ask for it. Then again it is my understanding the two areas are not too far apart and maybe the triangulation method is not accurate enough to tell the two apart.

[Le Singe]

If there really were more than 2 abductors, wouldn't this really be a different type of abduction? What group of people would go into cahoots together and abduct a woman, unless maybe one or two of them didn't realize the other was going to do it and feels they can't come forward. I'd say maybe people on parole, ex cons, or relatives of the ring leader.

Agree If this was the case I would think more of someone hired by someone else OR maybe some bad group of younger thugs joy riding around got a bad idea and things got out of controll, but for whatever reason (the area, and the fact that these type of things never seem to stay secert long) this just doesn't seem likely to me.

Overall I would never put much stock in this type of information over the interent......If this were true why not let it out? And if you have been foolowing the thread it seems to me that SpeakOut has some connection to either the family or LE and while what they say is very true in general, in this case I say its a good signal that the info is wrong....

then again didn't the boyfriend call 911 on a friends phone if he was still listening to the abduction on his phone that would explain things....

One more thing sammantha the reason ppl keep bringing up Mr. Davis and not those others is he is the only jackass doing the talk show circit. While he most likely means well and is trying to help is seems highly inappropriate for a boyfriend of a couple weeks (at least to me) especially with some of the kooky things he said. He sort of comes off as being glibb which is a typically trait of pscyopaths (and many others i'm not at all saying I think he is a pscyopath). For the recorded I don't think he did it his story is just to easy to check out.....but you can't be suprise people go to him, he put himself out there.

[samantha17]

[quote=samantha17;4102623]I found the new information below from another blogger on another site very interesting ... I'm dumbfounded as to why the LE is with holding this info from the public and more info of what D. Davis heard during that 5 minutes ??? Time is vital in finding Kristi and too much info is being shushed by the LE.



If there really were more than 2 abductors, wouldn't this really be a different type of abduction? I'd say maybe people on parole, ex cons, or relatives of the ring leader.

My sentiments exactly, this seemed to be a planned and thought out abduction .... they had evidently been watching her from a distance and knew her habit of walking daily. I wonder if the road where she was abducted was straight or had curves where one could easily hide and watch her?

Also, what was said during the 5 minutes of her abduction when the cellphone was still on before it was tossed? What kind of voices were heard? Why can't LE reveal this important info?

[samantha17]

Le Singe, I definitely believe it was someone familiar with that rural area. The post concerning there being more than one abductor and the 5 minutes the cellphone was on is common knowledge around here ..... don't see where that info would interfere with the investigation at all, as a matter of fact, if more info came forth from LE, it could very well help the investigation ..... why they're being so tightlipped is beyond me. There has not been one word from LE since the King Mountain fiasco .... Kristi has been missing 3 weeks today and the case has already seemed to turn cold.

[wolfscratch]

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/profiling.htm
(snipet from John Douglas: Former FBI Profiler)

Proactive Techniques: Reaching out to the Public
This is just one function we perform. As I mentioned, to see that as all we do is a limited view. In fact, toward the end of my career in the FBI, I was doing fewer and fewer of those sorts of profiles. We were doing a lot more crime scene analyses, crime reconstructions, and spending more time developing and incorporating proactive techniques for ongoing investigations.

These proactive techniques are among the most exciting advances we've made. Sometimes we'll use the amazing power of the media to get potentially identifying information, like copies of handwritten notes and descriptions of probable post-offense behavior, about the criminals we're looking for out to the public.

Somebody out there knows something about our UNSUB or about a suspect, but they may not fully realize it. They may need us to connect the dots, to present some information that will help them understand what may to that point have been no more than a funny feeling or vague suspicion they've had about their brother, boyfriend, aunt, co-worker, and so on.
************************************************** *****************
The statement above concerning proactive techniques seems to be what is missing in the media management of the Kristi Cornwell Investigation', by Law Enforcement.
The family & friends have lead a very proactive media campaign as well as giving awareness and search techniques to the general public.

Law Enforcement leadership appears to have adopted the same unsuccessful strategies used in the Meredith Hope Emerson, abduction investigation, neglecting a very powerful and free resource; 'The American Public.'

[Le Singe]

just an fyi I read over that thread and that poster claims at one point to be best friends with D. Davis' sister and in the post referenced to live a few miles from the cornwells. While this is possible it would be quite a coincidence combined with the whole internet message board factor I would caution anyone one from putting to much stock in what they say.

furthermore it maybe a common rumor amoung locals, but not knowledge or fact.

[Knox]

just an fyi I read over that thread and that poster claims at one point to be best friends with D. Davis' sister and in to post referenced to live a few miles from the cornwells. While this is possible it would be quite a coincidence combined with the whole internet message board factor I would caution anyone one from putting to much stock in what they say.

furthermore it maybe a common rumor amoung locals, but not knowledge or fact.

I agree with you in your warning regarding some message boards and the information that is being posted there. Who knows what some of their agenda's are. I learned my lesson on that when I posted the story of the burned white SUV. It is frustrating that there has been no new information released, but let's not start quoting unsubstantiated statements.

One thing I've been wondering is if the cell phone still had a charge it seems it could have been pinged at any time from the abduction till it was found. So I wonder if it was pinged between those times. I don't know how much red tape has to be cleared to get this done but in the case of abduction it would be the first thing I would try to have done. The reason I wonder is, is it possible the offender did not throw the phone out immediately (i.e. during the crime). As sometimes offenders sometimes revisit the scene and definitely keep things from the victim. Maybe he threw it out a day or two later...maybe just to get rid of it, maybe to stir up media b/c it give him a thrill, or maybe in an attempt to show he was leaving the area. I don't know how the technology works, if it keeps a running record of what towers you can see or if they can just give you a real time snap shot of this info if you ask for it. Then again it is my understanding the two areas are not too far apart and maybe the triangulation method is not accurate enough to tell the two apart.

I wondered about this too and chalked it up to the phone was off, otherwise LE would have found the phone before the neighbor did. I do not think this is a complete stranger abduction and I agree with your statement about perps operating in a familiar area, somewhere they feel comfortable. Too many ways to go on the cell phone disposal; For all we know Kristi herself could have thrown it out of the car. She may not have been fully subdued at that point. Does anyone reading here have a local media contact?

[Speak Out]

Le Singe, I definitely believe it was someone familiar with that rural area. The post concerning there being more than one abductor and the 5 minutes the cellphone was on is common knowledge around here ..... don't see where that info would interfere with the investigation at all, as a matter of fact, if more info came forth from LE, it could very well help the investigation ..... why they're being so tightlipped is beyond me. There has not been one word from LE since the King Mountain fiasco .... Kristi has been missing 3 weeks today and the case has already seemed to turn cold.

Actually, it isn't common knowledge that there was more than one abductor, because there is no actual evidence of that. As to the time the call lasted, it has been said from the beginning that the details of what Mr. Davis heard were not being released, so it's safe to say that it was more than just "don't take me."

LE will only release information helpful to the investigation. There hasn't been any press releases lately, because there isn't any new information that needs to be released.

[Speak Out]

Thank You Speak Out, sounds like you may be local ... Please keep us up to speed, just in case some "additional information" becomes available. People are here to discuss this case, part of that is wondering why GBI or the family has not held any recent press conferences. John Q. Public is a tremendous resource for LE, but they have to be reminded of what they need to be looking for ... Sometimes silence is not golden.

I'm sure that LE realizes that the public is a tremendous resource and will make a press release when there is something new to report. I think we all would agree that this is a very complex case. Please continue to pray for all involved.

[samantha17]

I do wish there would be a new press release as people around here are getting antsy for further info ... many women are afraid to walk for exercise due to Kristi's case .... the people should be kept informed or at least be told that it's not some group of people going around and snatching walkers off the roads.

[Knox]

Thanks Speak Out, never doubted LE knows what a resource the public is, I wonder whether they are using that tool to it's full advantage and no I do not know how complex the case is. Not enough details have been released to judge the complexity.

Nursebeeme, TxsVicki, Lesinge or any other member who has been here for a while. Can you remember a case in the recent past where LE/Family held press conferences/interviews (live or print) just keep the case alive and in full view of the public? Meaning not necessarily to announce new information or developments.

Public help often needed to solve crimes, says GBI deputy director
Even with 60 agents on the ground gathering evidence, breaking a case often comes down to public assistance.

Georgia Bureau of Investigation Deputy Director Russell Andrews, told members of the Seven Hills Rotary at a luncheon on Tuesday that he recently spent a week investigating the disappearance of a missing north Georgia woman in North Carolina.

“At this point we’re no closer to knowing where she is and what happened to her,” Andrews said. “We need the public’s help.”

Kristi Cornwell, 38, of Blairsville, disappeared from her hometown of Blairsville on Aug. 11. Police said she was abducted while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone during a walk.

http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director%20&id=3510411-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director&instance=home_news

[nursebeeme]

Thanks Speak Out, never doubted LE knows what a resource the public is, I wonder whether they are using that tool to it's full advantage.

Nursebeeme, TxsVicki, Lesinge or any other member who has been here for a while. Can you remember a case in the recent past where LE/Family held press conferences/interviews (live or print) just keep the case alive and in full view of the public? Meaning not necessarily to announce new information or developments.

Public help often needed to solve crimes, says GBI deputy director
Even with 60 agents on the ground gathering evidence, breaking a case often comes down to public assistance.

Georgia Bureau of Investigation Deputy Director Russell Andrews, told members of the Seven Hills Rotary at a luncheon on Tuesday that he recently spent a week investigating the disappearance of a missing north Georgia woman in North Carolina.

“At this point we’re no closer to knowing where she is and what happened to her,” Andrews said. “We need the public’s help.”

Kristi Cornwell, 38, of Blairsville, disappeared from her hometown of Blairsville on Aug. 11. Police said she was abducted while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone during a walk.

http://romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director%20&id=3510411-Public+help+often+needed+to+solve+crimes-+says+GBI+deputy+director&instance=home_news
yes I can! The Sandra Cantu case is one of the best examples. They had daily updates even if there wasn't a thing new (and a lot of times there wasn't).. They were also pretty good in the Tori Stafford case. All LE could take a lesson from the way that LE in Sandra's case ran it... they kept it out there front and center! I agree that they need to get out there more to keep this alive! I hope they don't drop off.... it really will not be helpful in the long run... you never know who could have a lead or a tip and the media keeping it out front is a vital tool. All moo of course

[samantha17]

Georgia Bureau of Investigation Deputy Director Russell Andrews, told members of the Seven Hills Rotary at a luncheon on Tuesday that he recently spent a week investigating the disappearance of a missing north Georgia woman in North Carolina.

“At this point we’re no closer to knowing where she is and what happened to her,” Andrews said. “We need the public’s help.”

Well, if they would release more information to the public they just might get that needed help.

[txsvicki]

I'm also wondering about the validity of other message boards and the info they get. It's kind of hard to believe that Kristi was able to struggle for 5 minutes with more than 2 abductors unless some were hesitant, female, or very puny guys. I was thinking ex cons, but that definitely does not fit with a five minute struggle. Something doesn't seem right about most things being told in this.

[tiredblondy]

yes I can! The Sandra Cantu case is one of the best examples. They had daily updates even if there wasn't a thing new (and a lot of times there wasn't).. They were also pretty good in the Tori Stafford case. All LE could take a lesson from the way that LE in Sandra's case ran it... they kept it out there front and center! I agree that they need to get out there more to keep this alive! I hope they don't drop off.... it really will not be helpful in the long run... you never know who could have a lead or a tip and the media keeping it out front is a vital tool. All moo of course

I also thought the LE who handled the Robert Manwill case were good with the public updates!

[wolfscratch]

www.nganews.com Kristi Cornwell's abduction barely made the front page of the local news, this week, sad..
Something that I thought interesting was an unocupied house that burned, due to the location and the cause of ignition deemed as undetermined or suspicious.

Anyone know the Lost Forest Road area?
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Jones+Creek+Rd,+Blairsville,+GA+30512&geocode=Cdq1gwUrpg__Fer_EwIdB5X8-g&dirflg=&saddr=lost+forest+rd&f=d&sll=34.876989,-84.110041&sspn=0.020772,0.035105&ie=UTF8&z=12



More snipets from the North GA News:


Front Page - August 26, 2009 - Page 1 (PDF)
...Office is still active in the case of Kristi Cornwell, who was believed ab- ducted on Aug. 11 as she walked on Jones Creek Road in Union County. All information coming into the Sheriff's Office is being investigated, but no new...
last updated 8/31/2009

News Page 2 - August 26, 2009 - Page 1 (PDF)
...73,699 hits. Information on the search for Kristi Cornwell was updated as new information was obtained. Information posted on the website was obtained from Union County Sheriff Scott Stephens, Chief Deputy Scott Deyton, Sgt. Chad...

[raindrops300]

In John Walsh's book, (I can't recall the name of it) he said raising the reward, even if only by a couple thousand, will help keep missing persons in the news. Evidently the media considers that newsworthy.

Have they had any breaks in this case? I was following it closely, and have missed a couple of days. I hope it doesn't fall off the radar.

[Speak Out]

I do wish there would be a new press release as people around here are getting antsy for further info ... many women are afraid to walk for exercise due to Kristi's case .... the people should be kept informed or at least be told that it's not some group of people going around and snatching walkers off the roads.


I hate to say this, but in this day and age, women shouldbe afraid to walk alone for exercise, and not just in Blairsville. This type of thing happens all over the world all the time. It's a sad reality. Don't put yourself in any position that makes you an easy victim.

[wolfscratch]

I hate to say this, but in this day and age, women shouldbe afraid to walk alone for exercise, and not just in Blairsville. This type of thing happens all over the world all the time. It's a sad reality. Don't put yourself in any position that makes you an easy victim.

Speak Out, I am saddened to be inclined to agree with you. Ironically, Kristi Cornwell and Meredith Hope Emerson, have shown that an abduction can happen anytime and anywhere, even when precautions are taken. Both women were well trained in self defense or martial arts and both were in their respective safe havens, yet vanished without a trace.
A comment was made a few days ago reporting that over 300 women were known missing in GA alone. I feel that this number is very conservative, due to runaways and people in transit, etc. and the number across the US is staggering.
IMO, the abductors are often repeat offenders and the only way to combat this is through DNA laws, awareness & knowlege, communication, and well trained, competent, and proactive Public Safety Agencies that utilize all resources and include the 'American People' in this very critical endeavor to prevent this from happening to other unsuspecting innocent victims and their families...

Kristi Cornwell's abduction is a prime example of the difficulties confronted by Law Enforcement, once a victim is abducted by a possible stranger. Entirely too many of these cases are going unresolved, allowing the abductors to repeat this tragic scenario.

[Le Singe]

Nursebeeme, TxsVicki, Lesinge or any other member who has been here for a while. Can you remember a case in the recent past where LE/Family held press conferences/interviews (live or print) just keep the case alive and in full view of the public? Meaning not necessarily to announce new information or developments.Yes I think it happens but to the best of my memory it usually is in a case where there have been multiple crimes that are linked or possibly linked and it becomes much more likely if not certain that there is a person randomly or semi randomly preying on victims. And in my opinion this is generally done more as a way to calm public hysteria than to help get more tips from the public (not that they are not interested in that as well).

I can think of it happening in a serial killer case that was in my city (this case is how I became interested in true-crime in the first place), I think after a couple murders, everyone from nuns on down arming themselves to the teeth, people calling in all their neighbors as suspects, and the families raising holy hell LE started having I think weekly pressers. But again it was my impression this was more an attempt to calm the public (it was so tense for awhile I think we are lucky we didn't have any related killings just from peoples paranoia). I also think they were doing something similar in the DC sniper cases.

Now in defense of the police I would like to point something out. There are some cases like the Emerson case where releasing more information would have helped. BUT there are many many times when the reverse is true the two cases above are both examples.

In the DC sniper case ppl where out looking for a white service van while the suspects were driving in a blue car. In the case in my area on the night of one of the killings near where the body was dumped some one said they saw a man driving a white truck with a "body" slumped over in the passengers seat....they put this out right away with a sketch, they even hypnotized the witness to try to get them to remember more (hypnotism is at best slightly more credible than psychics) and everyone was looking like crazy for this white truck driven by a white male. I can not begin to imagine the number of man-hours that were spent trying to track down that truck and like I've said the suspect in the case had all ready been brought to the taskforces attention BUT b/c he didn't fit the fbi profile, or the witness sighting, and b/c they were checking tips matching the sighting and the FBIs profile (this despite the fact that this guy was an extraordinarily violent sex offender, who LE in his area were virtual sure was responsible for one killing many years ago but just did not have any evidence to prove it). As a result this went on for another year with 3 or maybe more additional killings. So if the information is not good or they are not sure it is good releasing it can sometimes actually hurt the process.

[samantha17]

www.nganews.com Kristi Cornwell's abduction barely made the front page of the local news, this week, sad..


That small photo and snippet is indeed sad ... the paper should be ashamed .... it would seem the case is already turning cold .... sigh.

[Knox]

Georgia, UNITED STATES (USA), Sun 30 Aug 2009, 20:14 GMT

CORNWELL says: "Were still looking for kristi, we still believe shes alive and were going to find her."
THE FUNDRAISER WAS IN A UNION COUNTY ROLLER RINK?
NOT FAR FROM WHERE KRISTI CORNWELL DISAPPEARED.
SHE WAS WALKING ON A RURAL ROAD NEAR HER PARENTS HOME?WHEN GBI INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE SOMEONE KIDNAPPED HER.
THAT WAS 18 DAYS AGO.
CORNWELL says: "Of course there are times of frustration. Theres times of sadness. But mostly the family is energized and we're motivated to continue.
CONTINUE GETTING THE WORD OUT
THEY BELIEVE KRISTI IS BEING HELD SOMEWHERE OUT OF SIGHT.
SO ON THEIR NEWEST MISSING POSTERS, THEY'RE EMPHASIZING TWO CARS SEEN IN THE AREA AROUND THE TIME SHE DISAPPEARED?
A WHITE SUV?AND A GOLD OR TAN SEDAN.
http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

Sorry if this has already been posted. RC states in this interview "We think Kristi is being held somewhere out of sight".

[samantha17]

Georgia, UNITED STATES (USA), Sun 30 Aug 2009, 20:14 GMT

CORNWELL says: "Were still looking for kristi, we still believe shes alive and were going to find her."
THE FUNDRAISER WAS IN A UNION COUNTY ROLLER RINK?
NOT FAR FROM WHERE KRISTI CORNWELL DISAPPEARED.
SHE WAS WALKING ON A RURAL ROAD NEAR HER PARENTS HOME?WHEN GBI INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE SOMEONE KIDNAPPED HER.
THAT WAS 18 DAYS AGO.
CORNWELL says: "Of course there are times of frustration. Theres times of sadness. But mostly the family is energized and we're motivated to continue.
CONTINUE GETTING THE WORD OUT
THEY BELIEVE KRISTI IS BEING HELD SOMEWHERE OUT OF SIGHT.
SO ON THEIR NEWEST MISSING POSTERS, THEY'RE EMPHASIZING TWO CARS SEEN IN THE AREA AROUND THE TIME SHE DISAPPEARED?
A WHITE SUV?AND A GOLD OR TAN SEDAN.
http://www.newspusher.com/EN/post/1251661830-2/EN-/ga-missing-blairsville-woman.html?PHPSESSID=86e9b4b7cf1d97cbe0b3d1b9bf7d2 16f

Sorry if this has already been posted. RC states in this interview "We think Kristi is being held somewhere out of sight".

Thanks for this important info Knox .... I would love to know why they think she is alive and being held captive .... makes me think they are onto something or they have suspects in mind.

[Knox]

Agents in Kristi Cornwell case interview N.C. jogger
She avoided attempted kidnapping two weeks earlier
GBI agents are investigating the attempted kidnapping of a jogger one town over from where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.

The failed kidnapping occurred on July 26 in Murphy, N.C., roughly 20 miles from Blairsville, where Cornwell disappeared Aug. 11.

“There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.

The attempted kidnapping occurred at 9:30 p.m. -- right about when Cornwell, 38, was grabbed while walking along Jones Creek Road, not far from her home. She was chatting on her cellphone with her boyfriend at the time of her disappearance, authorities say.

http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kristi-cornwell-129879.html

[Knox]

Cherokee lawmen help conduct search for Kristi Cornwell

Snipped from Article; However, Murphy resident Sara Sherrill said that on July 26 she and her husband, Bill, were sitting on their front porch on Valley River Avenue about 9:30 p.m. – the approximate time that Cornwell was abducted on Aug. 11 – when a neighbor jogged by them alone. They saw a man walking aggressively across the street from her. He was looking at her and appeared to be stalking her. He whistled loudly at her, but she continued to run.

Sherrill said he apparently couldn’t catch her and walked rapidly back the other way. Moments later, a pickup with the man on the back of the truck came by. The man had both hands spread out, and he was looking in the direction the neighbor ran. Sherrill couldn’t see clearly into the truck cab and doesn’t know how many people were in the truck. The pickup was an older, faded, red Ford Ranger.

“It scared us both and gave us cold chills,” Sherrill said. “He was on the back of the truck like he was ready to spring.”

She described the man as tall and lanky with a scraggly look. He appeared to be in his mid-30s and had a short beard. He appeared to be at least 6 feet tall.

The neighbor made it to her home without incident.

[/URL][url]http://www.cherokeescout.com/shared-content/search/?search=1&o=0&l=25&q=kristi+cornwell&SUBMIT.x=0&SUBMIT.y=0&SUBMIT=Search (http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/21/news/doc4a8b08c3c365f829821584.txt)!

Three things came up in a search in this paper, one appears to be a letter to the editor/opinion ...

[MnkeyBznes]

Agents in Kristi Cornwell case interview N.C. jogger
She avoided attempted kidnapping two weeks earlier
GBI agents are investigating the attempted kidnapping of a jogger one town over from where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.

The failed kidnapping occurred on July 26 in Murphy, N.C., roughly 20 miles from Blairsville, where Cornwell disappeared Aug. 11.

“There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.

The attempted kidnapping occurred at 9:30 p.m. -- right about when Cornwell, 38, was grabbed while walking along Jones Creek Road, not far from her home. She was chatting on her cellphone with her boyfriend at the time of her disappearance, authorities say.

http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kristi-cornwell-129879.html

Here is a link to the Murphy NC newspaper. I can't find anything in it about this attempted abduction. I can't even find an archived paper for that week's edition. It would have been July 29 (once a week paper). That date is not even listed in the archives at all. There are articles in each week about Kristi, but nothing about this.

http://www.cherokeesentinel.com

[MnkeyBznes]

Thanks Knox forgot about the Cherokee Scout

[MnkeyBznes]

www.nganews.com Kristi Cornwell's abduction barely made the front page of the local news, this week, sad..
Something that I thought interesting was an unocupied house that burned, due to the location and the cause of ignition deemed as undetermined or suspicious.

Anyone know the Lost Forest Road area?
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Jones+Creek+Rd,+Blairsville,+GA+30512&geocode=Cdq1gwUrpg__Fer_EwIdB5X8-g&dirflg=&saddr=lost+forest+rd&f=d&sll=34.876989,-84.110041&sspn=0.020772,0.035105&ie=UTF8&z=12



More snipets from the North GA News:


Front Page - August 26, 2009 - Page 1 (PDF)
...Office is still active in the case of Kristi Cornwell, who was believed ab- ducted on Aug. 11 as she walked on Jones Creek Road in Union County. All information coming into the Sheriff's Office is being investigated, but no new...
last updated 8/31/2009

News Page 2 - August 26, 2009 - Page 1 (PDF)
...73,699 hits. Information on the search for Kristi Cornwell was updated as new information was obtained. Information posted on the website was obtained from Union County Sheriff Scott Stephens, Chief Deputy Scott Deyton, Sgt. Chad...

Bold by me! The Union County Tax Assessors office shows 4 houses on Lost Forest Rd. (just put in Lost Forest) Two houses are 4000+ sq. ft. since this was described as a large empty house I am assuming it was one of those two that burned. One of those looks like it is listed as a trust.

http://www.qpublic.net/ga/union/

[wolfscratch]

Agents in Kristi Cornwell case interview N.C. jogger
She avoided attempted kidnapping two weeks earlier
GBI agents are investigating the attempted kidnapping of a jogger one town over from where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.

The failed kidnapping occurred on July 26 in Murphy, N.C., roughly 20 miles from Blairsville, where Cornwell disappeared Aug. 11.

“There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.

The attempted kidnapping occurred at 9:30 p.m. -- right about when Cornwell, 38, was grabbed while walking along Jones Creek Road, not far from her home. She was chatting on her cellphone with her boyfriend at the time of her disappearance, authorities say.

http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kristi-cornwell-129879.html

No similarities, but proximity?

I watched a segment on WSB 2 Atlanta News, tonight. The Murphy NC Jogger was interviewed.

IMO, Similarities include: proximity

Time of attempted abduction 9:30 PM

Only two weeks between the Murphy attempted abduction and Kristi Cornwell's abduction.

Both Kristi and the Murphy jogger were alone in an isolated rural area exercising

Multiple suspects, (one was in the back of a pick up truck according to witnesses)

Targeted Victim in Murphy, NC could have been Kristi's sister; height, weight, hair color etc., were very similar in apearance.

The unsuspecting jogger wasn't aware of the attempted abduction. An elderly couple sitting on their front porch witnessed the near miss, when the abductor aproached her from the rear, after aggressively crossing the street, following, and whistling at her. The suspects rode by looking for her a few minutes later, in a faded red Ford Ranger PU Truck, but couldn't locate her. The couple said that the incident was very chilling.

[wolfscratch]

I Nominate this SO for the 'Hall of Shame'

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20693663/detail.html

Sex Offender Creates Poster For Missing Woman
Posted: 6:31 pm EDT September 2, 2009
Updated: 8:55 pm EDT September 2, 2009

CLEVELAND, Ga. -- A poster, offering a $100,000 reward in the case of a missing Blairsville woman, was not authorized by Kristi Cornwell’s family, her brother said.

In fact, family members said while researching the name and phone number listed on the flier, they discovered it belonged to registered sex offender Gib Williams of Towns County.

[eeyorelrn]

I Nominate this SO for the 'Hall of Shame'

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20693663/detail.html

Sex Offender Creates Poster For Missing Woman
Posted: 6:31 pm EDT September 2, 2009
Updated: 8:55 pm EDT September 2, 2009

CLEVELAND, Ga. -- A poster, offering a $100,000 reward in the case of a missing Blairsville woman, was not authorized by Kristi Cornwell’s family, her brother said.

In fact, family members said while researching the name and phone number listed on the flier, they discovered it belonged to registered sex offender Gib Williams of Towns County.


Can we say WTF?!?!?!
They can't charge him with anything? Ok, MAYBE i can see that, but surely this idiot has set off enough alarms with this sceme to have GBI on him like a bumper sticker.

[tiredblondy]

Cherokee lawmen help conduct search for Kristi Cornwell

Snipped from Article; However, Murphy resident Sara Sherrill said that on July 26 she and her husband, Bill, were sitting on their front porch on Valley River Avenue about 9:30 p.m. – the approximate time that Cornwell was abducted on Aug. 11 – when a neighbor jogged by them alone. They saw a man walking aggressively across the street from her. He was looking at her and appeared to be stalking her. He whistled loudly at her, but she continued to run.

Sherrill said he apparently couldn’t catch her and walked rapidly back the other way. Moments later, a pickup with the man on the back of the truck came by. The man had both hands spread out, and he was looking in the direction the neighbor ran. Sherrill couldn’t see clearly into the truck cab and doesn’t know how many people were in the truck. The pickup was an older, faded, red Ford Ranger.

“It scared us both and gave us cold chills,” Sherrill said. “He was on the back of the truck like he was ready to spring.”

She described the man as tall and lanky with a scraggly look. He appeared to be in his mid-30s and had a short beard. He appeared to be at least 6 feet tall.

The neighbor made it to her home without incident.

http://www.cherokeescout.com/shared-content/search/?search=1&o=0&l=25&q=kristi+cornwell&SUBMIT.x=0&SUBMIT.y=0&SUBMIT=Search (http://www.cherokeescout.com/shared-content/search/?search=1&o=0&l=25&q=kristi+cornwell&SUBMIT.x=0&SUBMIT.y=0&SUBMIT=Search)!

Three things came up in a search in this paper, one appears to be a letter to the editor/opinion ...

This really gives me goosebumps. Why wouldn't it be the same guys? I think this is the best lead they have!

[wolfscratch]

This really gives me goosebumps. Why wouldn't it be the same guys? I think this is the best lead they have!

The incident, only 20 miles away in Murphy, NC happened on July 26, a Sunday evening over a month ago. With the media coverage of Kristi Cornwell's abduction, I am scratching my head asking myself, why has it taken over two weeks to to be released to the American Public?

[Cappy]

The incident, only 20 miles away in Murphy, NC happened on July 26, a Sunday evening over a month ago. With the media coverage of Kristi Cornwell's abduction, I am scratching my head asking myself, why has it taken over two weeks to to be released to the American Public?

I'm thinking that this isn't the first reporting of the incident. I can't exactly recall where I read/heard it but it's very familar .

......the jogger that wasn't aware of being "stalked" and the couple watching from the front porch. hmmmmm :waitasec:

[samantha17]

Both Kristi and the Murphy jogger were alone in an isolated rural area exercising.

Actually, the Murphy jogger was jogging in downtown Murphy on a very busy residential street ... one of the main downtown streets in Murphy.

[samantha17]

This really gives me goosebumps. Why wouldn't it be the same guys? I think this is the best lead they have!

I am in complete agreement ... maybe the GBI stating that the proximity is the only coincidence and the two cases don't seem to be related sounds to me like they're trying to throw the perps off and they're actually continuing to search for them ... it seems very much related to me.

[samantha17]

I'm thinking that this isn't the first reporting of the incident. I can't exactly recall where I read/heard it but it's very familar .

......the jogger that wasn't aware of being "stalked" and the couple watching from the front porch. hmmmmm :waitasec:

It was reported in the Cherokee Scout in the August 26th edition (once a week paper coming out on Wednesdays) ... the jogger might very well have been listening to an MP3 player and she couldn't hear the whistling.

[wolfscratch]

It was reported in the Cherokee Scout in the August 26th edition (once a week paper coming out on Wednesdays) ... the jogger might very well have been listening to an MP3 player and she couldn't hear the whistling.

samantha17, you're prolly right on, concerning the mp3 player.
re: whistling is a tactic used when hunting, to halt prey..


http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/20/sports/doc4a8b0c181279b665952666.txt

Story puts scare into entire family
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Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT
After relating the story of my wife’s recent running experience and the kindness of a pair of local community members regarding her safety, I thought the worst was over.

While on vacation last week, I got a call from Cherokee Scout staff writer Lizz Harold because the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was looking for me.

If that news wasn’t unsettling enough, Lizz went on to relate the story of Kristi Cornwell, who was abducted off the side of the road Aug. 11 in Blairsville. The limit of my conversation with the GBI was relating the story in last week’s column, but I understood the need for them to follow up because of the proximity and similarity of the Cornwell incident.

It shook me to hear what had happened and when I told Brigitte the story, well, if you looked up freaked out in the dictionary, there would have been a picture of her. It got even eerier when you consider that Cornwell is 38 years old, 5 foot, 5 inches with dark hair, who was out exercising. My wife is a 39 years old, 5 foot, 4 inches, with dark hair, out exercising. The book I took to the beach – Tim Green’s The First 48 – made it worse.

see SCARY, 12A

continued from page 11A

It’s about a man who is searching for his daughter, who is believed to have been kidnapped while out running.

Even though investigators have not made any official connection between Brigitte’s incident and Cornwell’s abduction, their similarities made us realize just how lucky we might have gotten that Sunday evening a couple of weeks ago.

As I write this, Cornwell is still missing, and with every day that passes, the ordeal becomes even more painful for her family. I don’t know if what Bill and Sarah Sherill saw that night will help investigators, but we can only hope that whoever is responsible is found quickly and dealt with severely.

If anything positive has come out of this experience, it has unfortunately come to me. I’m a runner who needs motivation to stay in training. Especially when it means getting my butt out of bed at 7 a.m. I have more than enough motivation now. Needless to say, Brigitte will no longer be running alone at night, or during the day if I can help it.

Mark Townsend is associate editor of the Cherokee Scout. You can reach him by phone, 837-5122; fax, 837-5832; or e-mail, mtownsend@cherokeescout.com.

[wolfscratch]

Posted originally by 'Angel Who Cares'

New Lead in Cornwell Case
September 3, 2009 6:56 AM
<snipped>
The GBI confirms it's looking into the case of a woman who was almost abducted about a week before Kristi Cornwell's disappearance.

Bill and Sara Sherill were sitting on their front porch in Murphy, North Carolina, about a half hour from where Cornwell vanished in Union County. The Sherill's spotted one of their neighbors out for her evening run and, as she passed their house they saw a man following her.

"Obviously he was going after her," Mrs. Sherill says.

The Sherill's became alarmed, with Mr. Sherill saying to his wife, "maybe I should go rescue her because it looked like he intended to do something.

"It was really scary," he says.

They saw the man climb into a red pick up truck and follow the woman some more.

Mr. Sherill went so far as to get into his own car, but stopped when he saw the red pick up pass him going the other direction.

Sherill drove to find the woman and discovered Brigitte Townsend safely running to her home. She told him she was unaware of the other man's presence.

Article:
http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2009/0...well-case.html

[wolfscratch]

Actually, the Murphy jogger was jogging in downtown Murphy on a very busy residential street ... one of the main downtown streets in Murphy.

samantha17, TY. Do you have the name of the street?

[wolfscratch]

http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=151240&MemberID=1281

Anyone know the make and model of the truck that was torched by the home invaders?
The door trim apears red where it was protected from the fire.

[Kat]

Just checking in again, I have nothing to add but I do read and appreciate all the hardwork that has gone into Kristi's thread. Many thanks.

[Knox]

http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?module=ContentItem&ID=151240&MemberID=1281

Anyone know the make and model of the truck that was torched by the home invaders?
The door trim apears red where it was protected from the fire.

I believe the red truck you are referring to (woman jogger story) was stated to be a red ford ranger. The truck in the story you linked looks like a Chevy 1/2 ton, too big to be a ford ranger. Also looks like it has the extended cab rear door which only opens when the front seat door is open. Good thinking though!!

[tiredblondy]

I think the Sherrill's said the truck was a faded red color. I hope their safety is not threatened!!! I would hope there is a sketch of the man they saw by now." Tall , scraggly, lanky looking with a beard. I think it was the husband who noted the similarities between Kristi and his wife. So I'm racking my brain trying to figure out why specific characteristics for the women would be chosen by these men and the purpose of the abduction? On one of the tv programs discussing this case I think it was Pat Brown who said this was probably random. If women with dark hair, a specific height/weight out alone jogging or walking (pattern of behavior) were the targeted targets...is that random?

[wolfscratch]

On the Forensic Astrology Forum, I asked Tuba, if a specific geographical area could be revealed to focus on. The following was the response:



From the hills, to the hills (of Blairsville) & back to the hills of North Carolina. But look at a pond or lake. Venus does rules House 8 and is in Cancer.

Mars in the assault and abduction is on the Fixed Star Capella. That is not a bad star but when with Mars, it turns the interest to "low subjects", mental slumming. The perpetrator(s) was therefore not only violent but had his mind in the gutter.
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I thought the geographical area described is very interesting considering the new info on the Murphy, NC, attempted abduction.

[tiredblondy]

Does anyone else, besides me, think Teresa Parker shares similiar characteristics with Kristy and the jogger?

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/Missing%20Banners/5a528f42.jpg

[wolfscratch]

I think the Sherrill's said the truck was a faded red color. I hope their safety is not threatened!!! I would hope there is a sketch of the man they saw by now." Tall , scraggly, lanky looking with a beard. I think it was the husband who noted the similarities between Kristi and his wife. So I'm racking my brain trying to figure out why specific characteristics for the women would be chosen by these men and the purpose of the abduction? On one of the tv programs discussing this case I think it was Pat Brown who said this was probably random. If women with dark hair, a specific height/weight out alone jogging or walking (pattern of behavior) were the targeted targets...is that random?

tiredblondy, I was surprised when the witnesse's names were mentioned too.
What were they thinking?
A sketch of the suspect and a pic of the truck would be a great way to include the public and locate them before they take another innocent victim. If there are multiple suspects, it is reasonable to believe that there are multiple vehicles or that the suspects have access to other vehicles in their line of work.

As for the victim's physical characteristics being virtually identical causing them to be targeted, it may be random, but coupled with the two week window of the abduction attemps(if related), I would expect the worst and hope for the best.

Although I respect Pat Brown's profiling abilities, until another abduction or attempted abduction occurs or previous attempt or abduction is reported, there's really no way to know for sure that it was random.

I don't feel that the abductors had a firearm, but overpowered Kristi Cornwell.
It is doubtful that there would have been a scuffle at the abduction site, if they had a firearm. The scenario of the man in the back of the PU truck, after dark, aproaching Kristi from the rear would be a very effective attack & abduct plan.

If Kristi Cornwell wasn't their first victim, and the crime was stranger on stranger, she will not be the last until they are captured...

[wolfscratch]

Does anyone else, besides me, think Teresa Parker shares similiar characteristics with Kristy and the jogger?

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/Missing%20Banners/5a528f42.jpg
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tiredblondy, when I caught the news yesterday, the jury was split 8/4. The next news release said 9/3, then 'unanimously' convicted. Guess they wore down the jury with all the circumstantial evidence...

If you check you'll find that since the new laws were passed concerning trial procedures in GA. If you are indicted and you go to trial, you will be convicted, especially in the rural court districts. Example: DA gets 1st closing argument, defense 2nd, then DA gets 3rd and final closing argument. Which closing argument is the jury going to remember?
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Yes, Teresa Parker, does resemble Kristi Cornwell, as did Patrice Endres, and yes I am confident that she was abducted and murdered by an evil predator. A predator with no victim profile, only a preference, that hunted the tri state area and beyond for decades. The predator is facing a death penalty trial in Leon County, FL, for the tragic abduction, torture, and murder of Cheryl Dunlap, who also resembles Kristi Cornwell.
Due to GMH's stranger on stranger abductions, and many of his victims vanishing without a trace, many people were suspected, indicted, and encarcerated for his crimes.
Gary Michael Hilton, wasn't the first, last, or only.,.,

[Knox]

Does anyone else, besides me, think Teresa Parker shares similiar characteristics with Kristy and the jogger?

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/Missing%20Banners/5a528f42.jpg

Hard to tell from just one photo, but I would say yes they share some similarities. How far is the area TP went missing from in relation to Blairsville?

[tiredblondy]

OK Here is another brunette jogger that just disappeared. Yes I know they have arrested her husband but what if ??????
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html

[tiredblondy]

Oh My Goodness... Wolfscratch, We will never know how many people Gary Michael Hilton killed and I'm sure he's been doing it for a long time. I ran into him one time. It was at a convenience store near Asheville. I remember his piercing blue eyes. He was standing close to the check out counter. I remember because he was watching me like a hawk while trying to be funny. He had that stupid hat on. I always carry my money in my pocket when I go in these stores.(Don't take my purse or billfold.) As I put my hand in my pocket and pulled out my $20 dollar bill he watched every move and had moved a little too close for me.I guess he was looking for me to use a debit or credit card. I do not know why but suddenly I got the premonition to go around him and get out of there. I was so lucky because a large male friend of mine was walking out at the time and I latched on to him like I was his wife.(Now, I call it a message from God) The thing was- he was very personable, entertaining and looked so normal and harmless! Everyone was talking with him. He was looking for a ride and I'm sure he found one.
I think it's because I read here so much that I am so aware of my surroundings. He was obiviously watching me too closely and invaded my personal space. Of course I didn't know it was him until l saw him on tv.
... But even before I joined here I would have never gone jogging alone
Now I don't think I'd go jogging unless it was with a large group.
I've never shared that story of my close call with that mad man but now that I have I feel a bit better.

[tiredblondy]

Hard to tell from just one photo, but I would say yes they share some similarities. How far is the area TP went missing from in relation to Blairsville?

It's not close. Carey is close to Raleigh.

[SuziQ]

Does anyone else, besides me, think Teresa Parker shares similiar characteristics with Kristy and the jogger?

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/lightingthewayhome/Missing%20Banners/5a528f42.jpg

She really does resemble them. But Theresa's husband Sam, was just found guilty of her murder. Her body has never been found.

Sam Parker Found Guilty Of Murder
Sentenced To Life For Slaying Of Wife, Theresa
posted September 3, 2009

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_158127.asp

[wolfscratch]

Oh My Goodness... Wolfscratch, We will never know how many people Gary Michael Hilton killed and I'm sure he's been doing it for a long time. I ran into him one time. It was at a convenience store near Asheville. I remember his piercing blue eyes. He was standing close to the check out counter. I remember because he was watching me like a hawk while trying to be funny. He had that stupid hat on. I always carry my money in my pocket when I go in these stores.(Don't take my purse or billfold.) As I put my hand in my pocket and pulled out my $20 dollar bill he watched every move and had moved a little too close for me.I guess he was looking for me to use a debit or credit card. I do not know why but suddenly I got the premonition to go around him and get out of there. I was so lucky because a large male friend of mine was walking out at the time and I latched on to him like I was his wife.(Now, I call it a message from God) The thing was- he was very personable, entertaining and looked so normal and harmless! Everyone was talking with him. He was looking for a ride and I'm sure he found one.
I think it's because I read here so much that I am so aware of my surroundings. He was obiviously watching me too closely and invaded my personal space. Of course I didn't know it was him until l saw him on tv.
... But even before I joined here I would have never gone jogging alone
Now I don't think I'd go jogging unless it was with a large group.
I've never shared that story of my close call with that mad man but now that I have I feel a bit better.

When asked by the jailers at the Dawson County Detention Ctr., GA, "If you are so intelligent, why did you get caught?" Gary Hilton, responded, "they haven't caught me since I was 14 years old."(47 years)

Thanks for sharing your story tiredblondy, You trusted your instincts or your hinky meter and creatively devised a plan to escape his grasp. Convience stores were one of his preferred primary hunting grounds.
Glad you were able to tell your story and glad that you feel better after sharing it. I salute you for having the courage to do so. Although there are many testimonies from his more fortunate victims on the internet, I have to wonder how many have chosen silence.
GMH, could be very charming, friendly, and personable, yet emits a demonic aura. He was very creative and calculating in his abduction strategies, using all available resources. I believe that this is referred to as the ' Mask of Sanity', GMH, had mastered the art of emulation.
I have talked to many people that have met GMH, the majority of them said that they had an uneasy feeling, or the hair on the back of their neck stood up, or a chill ran up their spine. Many of his victims were very spiritual, religious, and courteous, ignoring their instincts. Their testimonies are scarce.
Another more fortunate victim's testimony: http://www.greenepublishing.com/olds...irtyseven.html Click the link and scroll down to:

'A Close Encounter With A Killer Mind'

Meredith Hope Emerson's instincts told her what lay up ahead that tragic day. A female hiker that talked to her only minutes before the abduction said, "I'll never forget that sad look in her Eyes." Go to the Legacy Guest Book for Meredith Hope Emerson and see how she has touched people from all over the world. She is the reason for the abrupt end of GMH & Associates; evil Trail of Terror'. She was a kindred spirit and a fighter. She still is...

Talked to a retired NYPD Detective yesterday that was in the courtroom when GMH was tried for the savage abduction and murder of Meredith Hope Emerson: Blood Mtn Hiker. He said that GMH lighted up when the TV cameras arrived, said that he was glowing. The dective worked the Son of Sam case. Said GMH, and SOS have the same evil eyes..

The petty drifter and thief description, is an image that GMH, created. The ATM uses were for documentation(security camera). He was taunting. GMH, went to the ATM three days in a row in Tally FL(Next to FSU/Bundy)and used Cheryl Dunlap's card while wearing a death mask(Masks worn during burial rituals in the neolithic period/stone age). He was oblivious, hiding in the midst of Cheryl Dunlap's searchers.

How is this relevant to the Kristi Cornwell abduction? It would be absolutely be the 'worst case scenario', but has to be considered.
Research Adam Leroy Lane: Serial Killer, NC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32274027/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/
. Is there a culture of evil predators where hunting humans is acceptable or considered the norm; sport? When captured a couple of years ago, a dvd player was found in the cab of his truck: 'Hunting Humans.'
GMH, besides having Associates & sidekicks, from time to time, wasn't the first, last, or only...

[samantha17]

samantha17, TY. Do you have the name of the street?

Valley River Avenue

[wolfscratch]

Valley River Avenue

thank you samantha17. Google mapped it and it seems to be a mixed use area. It would have taken a brazen individual, or individuals, to attempt to abduct a person in that area even though it was under the cloak of darkness. Unless they were under the influence of drugs or alcohol, IMO.

[wolfscratch]

tiredblondy,
re: Gary Michael Hilton killed and I'm sure he's been doing it for a long time. I ran into him one time. It was at a convenience store near Asheville.
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Do you remember the month and year of your encounter with GMH?

[tiredblondy]

tiredblondy,
re: Gary Michael Hilton killed and I'm sure he's been doing it for a long time. I ran into him one time. It was at a convenience store near Asheville.
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Do you remember the month and year of your encounter with GMH?

See that is the problem with my encounter standing up in court. I do not remember exactly when it was. I'm pretty sure it was after the couple from Hendersonville went missing. It was winter because I was wearing my heavy sweater which I remember because I was so aware of him watching me reach into my pocket and in the warm seasons I put my cash in my jeans pockets...but I know I had on a sweater!(Rarely do I wear a coat) He was wearing that hat that looks like a toboggan, so I didn't know he was bald. This happened before it was before they arrested him for Meredith's abduction. When I saw him on tv I realized he was the man at the convenience store. I will never forget his eyes. They are piercing.!!!

[tiredblondy]

Wolfscratch, I just read the article that you referred to that mentioned the DVD called Hunting Humans. There was a husband in that article that would probably have been tried for murder too.

[wolfscratch]

Wolfscratch, I just read the article that you referred to that mentioned the DVD called Hunting Humans. There was a husband in that article that would probably have been tried for murder too.

Yes tiredblondy, this is one of the reasons for the silence by the Justice System in GMH & Associates 'Trail of Terror' for decades. Many, many people have been suspected, indicted, convicted, and even encarcerated for GMH's evil deeds, due to the stranger on stranger crimes, investigations and procecutions based on statistics, juries that are convinced that the insurmountable circumstantial evidence being presented is factual, etc.

GMH was stealth or oblivious to Law Enforcement for decades due to the morphing of his signature and mo and the wide range of his geographical pattern. He carried himself with the descipline of a well trained soldier. He was a hunter(predator) and a professional(his words). The DA in Dawson County, GA referred to GMH, as the nowhere man and the everywhere man. He knew and utilized, police procedures, lack of communication, jurisdicitions, as well as hunting seasons, forensics, and was a copy cat of many serial killers before him(he read), with a tyrst of his own creativity. He had no victim profile from 11 year old Levy Frady(GA), to 80 year old John & 84 year old Irene Bryant(NC).
IMO, VICAP was in a state of confusion, indicating many Serial Killers in many states, active over decades.
GMH, was perceived as a petty thief & drifter by LE. This was only one image of his creativity.

[wolfscratch]

Surely there's some new information on Kristi Cornwell's abduction. Anyone know of any searches being conducted or other pertinent news?

[tiredblondy]

Wolfscratch, if somone has some information on GMH how could they get it to you?
I know we have private messages here but do you have a way you'd like to disclose that someone could contact you?

[tiredblondy]

No I've searched the Topix forum for Kristi and Blairsville,GA and I haven't found anything on her updated.

[wolfscratch]

Wolfscratch, I just read the article that you referred to that mentioned the DVD called Hunting Humans. There was a husband in that article that would probably have been tried for murder too.

tiredblondy, watch the video. the answer given by the dad of his last intended victim, as to how he was able to over power the Serial Killer, is very revealing...

[Knox]

Wolfscratch I appreciate all your knowledge of Gary Hilton and that you feel there may be something valuable to this case, but I think there is a specific thread for him in another area. Please, let's keep this thread about Kristi Cornwell, she (THIS CASE) deserves our full attention :)

[samantha17]

Below is a compilation of all the media releases concerning Kristi:

http://www.mahalo.com/kristi-cornwell

[Knox]

Nothing new in this case and it seems as if it is falling off the radar. Most missing person cases have a short life in the media, public interest wanes and the next big story comes along. IMO this is the time the family steps up and keeps the torch ignited, contacts those reporters and keeps the story alive! Any locals know if searches are being organized?

[wolfscratch]

Nothing new in this case and it seems as if it is falling off the radar. Most missing person cases have a short life in the media, public interest wanes and the next big story comes along. IMO this is the time the family steps up and keeps the torch ignited, contacts those reporters and keeps the story alive! Any locals know if searches are being organized?

Rode up to Blairsville today for a day trip. Went out Notterly Dam Rd./Hwy 325 into Murphy and then back to Blairsville, where I talked to the locals at the local restaurant to get the pulse of the public. Kristi's photo was on the entrance door.
There was no activity of any kind except bilboards with Kristi's photo in several locations and every Church that we passed had 'Pray for Kristi Cornwell' on their signs. I did see the lodge mentioned on another forum.
The folks at the restaurant said that LE is being very tight lipped..
One thing that I did observe is that their is many back roads and logging roads that lead into the dense forests.

[Knox]

Thanks Wolfscratch, no word of any scheduled searches though huh? So frustrating, I could never be a LE officer, these missing children/person cases would consume me. Having to talk to the families, see their pain, having a case go cold for lack of leads ... Tough job they have. Any of the locals have anything to say about how Kristi's family is doing?

[wolfscratch]

Thanks Wolfscratch, no word of any scheduled searches though huh? So frustrating, I could never be a LE officer, these missing children/person cases would consume me. Having to talk to the families, see their pain, having a case go cold for lack of leads ... Tough job they have. Any of the locals have anything to say about how Kristi's family is doing?

No, but I am confident that they are grieving and experiencing an incredible aray of emotions in addition to the pain, due to the many unknowns.
The silence by LE and the family in the past week is deafening. If only a geographical area could be identified, I am sure volunteers would turn out in droves to assist in a thorough search and organizations such as Monica Caison's CUE Center would be more than happy to organize it or assist.

Although it seems like an eternity since Kristi Cornwell vanished, it is actually early in the investigation and I am patiently optimistic that promising leads are being worked by LE that the public is not privy too.

[samantha17]

I am patiently optimistic that promising leads are being worked by LE that the public is not privy too.

And therein lies the problem, no new info from LE and the case is getting colder by the day .... she's been missing 4 weeks Tues.

[wolfscratch]

And therein lies the problem, no new info from LE and the case is getting colder by the day .... she's been missing 4 weeks Tues.

yes, samantha 17, I was just trying very hard to be optimistic, but I am afraid you may be right.

Thought the comments by just another blairsville girl and teresa NC are very interesting. Especially the tip to GBI concerning the White SUV and faded red truck.
Sounds as though she is getting the same frustrating response from LE that I experienced when calling in a tip. She is relying on her instincts, knowlege of the area, and past experiences.
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/08/missing_in_georgia_kristi_corn.php

Posted 08/31/2009 at 12:42:27 PM
Teresa N.C. said:
Dan said:
My final comment is to the investigators. You need to turn up the heat!

I agree with Dan. Why are the investigator being so tight lipped. Are they waiting for someone to hang them self? As the old saying goes" Give them enough rope and they will hang them self". I do know that there is more information that they aren't saying. WHY?? They say the ground search has been called off. They were relying on tips.

I live a few miles from Blairsville in N.C.. There is a local place that I hike and camp a lot that is very secluded. Days prior to the abduction. They were a lot of activity in this area. This wasn't your local good ole boys hiding back in the woods to drink or party a little. It was different. So different I called the sheriffs office and wildlife service. They all had Georgia tags. One was a white SUV. From where her cell phone was found there is a back road that takes you right to this area with only a couple of minutes on the main roads. I called the GBI. They acted as if I was wasting their time. The only question they ask was if I have been back up to the area since the abduction. I told them no that I feared the area now. I understand they have a lot of tips and are busy. However they need to listen. This was different! I have been hiking and camping there since I was a child. I am now 38. I was there at lease 1 to 2 times a week. I know when something isn't right. It was so bad I even took notice of the license plates and called the law. They were Georgia tags! That is out of the norm for me. I usually stay quiet and let things be. However I truly believe this needs to be checked out. Very concerned in N.C.




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Teresa N.C. said:
another blairsville girl said:
Teresa N.C.
I think I may know where you are talking about. Give ne a better idea...abreviations of road name or something and I will confirm it. My Dad and I will ride over there and look around. Thanks,
another blairsville girl
It is Fires Creek. A bear sanctuary in clay county. I am also trying to gets some friends up to go search. I will not go up in there alone anymore. However I know the place well and would know where to search. The white SUV was not starting any trouble. It was just acting very suspicious. On several occasions. The red truck that was there at the same times as the SUV. They were trying to start trouble. It was a red faded truck. One man was on the back making all sorts of rude gestures. I called the law then. Assuming trouble was about to happen. Anyway after the abduction of Kristi Cherokee county scout reported this. The same truck trying to pick up another woman. I was shocked. I called the law again. Same truck, same men. They were in there early to late thirties. Here's the link http://www.cherokeescout.com/articles/2009/08/21/news/doc4a8b08c3c365f829821584.txt. I pray for her safe return.

Posted 09/02/2009 at 05:00:34 PM

[Hollert]

LE needs to come forward with everything they have, NOW! Releasing all of the info will produce some new tips, GUARANTEED! LE always waits too long to release info of this nature. Do they have a primary suspect? Everything I've read says NO. Failing to release the info just gives the offender(s) more time to cover their tracks. The offender(s) are familiar with the silent routine and exploit it. In my opinion, failing to release useful info to the public places has placed an unnecessary burden on the Cornwell family and Blairsville community. It may have also prevented saving Kristi's life. Withholding the info at this point is borderline negligent. If LE has a strong lead, they need to issue a press release and acknowledge that. If not, put the info out there and let the public help. This case, like so many others, is destined to be another COLD missing persons case, if no action is taken now.

[wolfscratch]

Something that I noticed yesterday when I took the day trip was that if you are driving from Notterly Dam on Hwy325/Notterly Dam Rd. towards Hwy 515. When you get to Hwy 515(Blue Ridge Hwy) if you cross over the Hwy, the road is marked Notterly Rd, but is actually Jones Creek Rd. Someone unfamiliar with the area could randomly end up on Jones Creek Rd where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.

[christine2448]

I am in Helen, GA this weekend...takin' a break. North GA Mtns. I have seen posters of Kristi @ several locations, here I am relaxing...where is she?

[Knox]

My eyes are crossing from all the reading and researching. I have read on several forums that people are ASKING if anyone knows where to sign up to search for Kristi, volunteer's are ready and willing!! Christine2448 light a fire up there and see if you can get something started :)

Wolf, I have read several mentions of Fire Creek and that red truck with the unsavory men. Since it seems to be coming from a variety of people who are unrelated and are in different areas, it seem legit. Hopefully GBI/local LE have checked them out. I know the family held a fundraiser and also have a donation button on the KC.com website. Do you think searches are occurring and just not being publicized? I want to make it clear I am not criticizing the family, I have great compassion for them and the pain they are in, just very mystified as to their silence and the reason for it.

Hollert could not agree with you more! Thanks for joining us here and also on the FA page. Did Tuba's latest posts answer your questions? Your thoughts about that location can be posted here and I am interested in hearing more.

[wolfscratch]

My eyes are crossing from all the reading and researching. I have read on several forums that people are ASKING if anyone knows where to sign up to search for Kristi, volunteer's are ready and willing!! Christine2448 light a fire up there and see if you can get something started :)

Wolf, I have read several mentions of Fire Creek and that red truck with the unsavory men. Since it seems to be coming from a variety of people who are unrelated and are in different areas, it seem legit. Hopefully GBI/local LE have checked them out. I know the family held a fundraiser and also have a donation button on the KC.com website. Do you think searches are occurring and just not being publicized? I want to make it clear I am not criticizing the family, I have great compassion for them and the pain they are in, just very mystified as to their silence and the reason for it.

Hollert could not agree with you more! Thanks for joining us here and also on the FA page. Did Tuba's latest posts answer your questions? Your thoughts about that location can be posted here and I am interested in hearing more.

I agree Knox, the family has been suspiciously quiet. Must be a request from LE, IMO.
re: the fire creek info: If it's legit and LE didn't follow up in a timely manner, it would be very disheartning. It in the direction of the perps travel or escape route.
As for as the private searches. Don't think they could keep that under wraps, too many locals on the forums..

[elepher50]

There sure seems to be possible connections to the red truck that need to be checked out - faded red truck following the jogger and then it was spotted at Fires Creek. It is very possible that this was a crime of opportunity and the areas are relatively close. Here is a rough map of the three points of interest relatd to Kristi's abduction, the jogger that was followed and Fires Creek. Hopefully LE has followed up on all this information. Time for an update from LE.

[Speak Out]

LE needs to come forward with everything they have, NOW! Releasing all of the info will produce some new tips, GUARANTEED! LE always waits too long to release info of this nature. Do they have a primary suspect? Everything I've read says NO. Failing to release the info just gives the offender(s) more time to cover their tracks. The offender(s) are familiar with the silent routine and exploit it. In my opinion, failing to release useful info to the public places has placed an unnecessary burden on the Cornwell family and Blairsville community. It may have also prevented saving Kristi's life. Withholding the info at this point is borderline negligent. If LE has a strong lead, they need to issue a press release and acknowledge that. If not, put the info out there and let the public help. This case, like so many others, is destined to be another COLD missing persons case, if no action is taken now.

1. The most negligent thing that LE could do would be to name "suspects" with no evidence... As cases are worked, there are lots of people who could be involved, so each of these people are examined to find out who actuallyis involved. When a reasonable amount of evidence as to who is guilty is accumulated, then, and only then, will LE arrest the person and release that information.

2. Any information helpful to the public has been and will continue to be released.

[wolfscratch]

There sure seems to be possible connections to the red truck that need to be checked out - faded red truck following the jogger and then it was spotted at Fires Creek. It is very possible that this was a crime of opportunity and the areas are relatively close. Here is a rough map of the three points of interest relatd to Kristi's abduction, the jogger that was followed and Fires Creek. Hopefully LE has followed up on all this information. Time for an update from LE.


1st link From Nottely Dam Rd to Murphy NC - 2nd link from murphy nc to fires creek nc

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=murphy+nc&daddr=Fires+Creek+Rd,+Murphy,+Cherokee,+North+Caro lina+28906&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=35.06814,-83.927733&sspn=0.008167,0.010514&g=Fires+Creek+Rd,+Murphy,+Cherokee,+

http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=3786+Nottely+Dam+Rd,+Blairsville,+GA+30 512-1127+(Cozy+Cove)&geocode=CZf9wlnb55tPFTOyFAIdeJz8-iE37NRxomQv1A&dirflg=&saddr=murphy+nc&f=d&dq=nottely+dam+rd+union+co+loc:+ga&sll=33.559172,-83.510169&sspn=3.364167,1.447312&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11

North+Carolina+28906&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12

I agree elepher50, a precious victim's life may depend on it...

[Hollert]

Speak Out, you have read info that wasn't there into my post. I did not say that LE should name names. I said they should release information that they have held back. Guess I needed to be more specific, so thanks for making me aware of that. I believe that it is crucial that they release information such as a description of all of the physical evidence that has been obtained thus far, any additional vehicle information, acknowledging whether or not they have received any additional tips, etc. They can do that without naming names. This case is going to fall off of the radar quickly if no action is taken.

[wolfscratch]

1. The most negligent thing that LE could do would be to name "suspects" with no evidence... As cases are worked, there are lots of people who could be involved, so each of these people are examined to find out who actuallyis involved. When a reasonable amount of evidence as to who is guilty is accumulated, then, and only then, will LE arrest the person and release that information.

2. Any information helpful to the public has been and will continue to be released.

Speak Out, I honor your opinion, yet time and time again, I hear the GBI saying 'we need the public's help.' Yet the same antiquated strategy that 'prevented' Meredith Hope Emerson, from being rescued is being employed; 'Keep it Close to the Vest.' Then we see on the forums that an attempted abduction took place two weeks before Kristi Cornwel was abducted across the state line only 20 miles away and minimal significance is attributed to this event.
A Vehicle of Interest, a Sketch or description of POI's etc, could have been provided the public via the media early in the investigation to increase the possibility of a successful conclusion..
Guess we will know after the investigation is completed, whether all available resources were utilized or when the case goes cold like so many before...

This article in the Atlanta Journal & Constitution was submitted 07:56 PM on Sept 2, 2009. The attempted abduction occured at 9:30 PM - July 26, 2009; over a month later...
http://www.ajc.com/news/agents-in-kr...ll-129879.html

Originally Posted by Knox 09/02/2009
Agents in Kristi Cornwell case interview N.C. jogger
She avoided attempted kidnapping two weeks earlier
GBI agents are investigating the attempted kidnapping of a jogger one town over from where Kristi Cornwell was abducted.

The failed kidnapping occurred on July 26 in Murphy, N.C., roughly 20 miles from Blairsville, where Cornwell disappeared Aug. 11.

“There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.

The attempted kidnapping occurred at 9:30 p.m. -- right about when Cornwell, 38, was grabbed while walking along Jones Creek Road, not far from her home. She was chatting on her cellphone with her boyfriend at the time of her disappearance, authorities say.


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re: “There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.
No similarities, but proximity?

I watched a segment on WSB 2 Atlanta News on 09/02/2009. The Murphy NC Jogger was interviewed.

IMO, Similarities include: proximity

Time of attempted abduction 9:30 PM

Only two weeks between the Murphy attempted abduction and Kristi Cornwell's abduction.

Both Kristi and the Murphy jogger were alone in a rural area while exercising

Multiple suspects, (one was in the back of a pick up truck according to witnesses)

Targeted Victim in Murphy, NC could have been Kristi's sister; height, weight, hair color etc., were very similar in apearance.
Wolfscratch

[wolfscratch]

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com.../profiling.htm
(snipet from John Douglas: Former FBI Profiler)

Proactive Techniques: 'Reaching out to the Public'

This is just one function we perform. As I mentioned, to see that as all we do is a limited view. In fact, toward the end of my career in the FBI, I was doing fewer and fewer of those sorts of profiles. We were doing a lot more crime scene analyses, crime reconstructions, and spending more time developing and incorporating proactive techniques for ongoing investigations.

These proactive techniques are among the most exciting advances we've made. Sometimes we'll use the amazing power of the media to get potentially identifying information, like copies of handwritten notes and descriptions of probable post-offense behavior, about the criminals we're looking for out to the public.

Somebody out there knows something about our UNSUB or about a suspect, but they may not fully realize it. They may need us to connect the dots, to present some information that will help them understand what may to that point have been no more than a funny feeling or vague suspicion they've had about their brother, boyfriend, aunt, co-worker, and so on.
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The statement above concerning proactive techniques seems to be what is missing in the media management of the Kristi Cornwell Investigation, by Law Enforcement, IMO.

Up to this point, the family & friends have lead a very proactive media campaign as well as giving awareness and search techniques to the general public.

Wolfscratch

[wolfscratch]

Snipet from: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20693663/detail.html

"In the past it has been an issue of people interjecting themselves into an investigation to stay close to it and know as much as the authorities know about it," said Mike Ayers with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

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Could I get some interpretations of this statement.
Wolfscratch

[samantha17]

Do you think searches are occurring and just not being publicized?

That's a possibility since the King Mountain fiasco/wild goose chase media circus, but much of this area is heavily forested, rugged, mountainous terrain, so unless credible leads come forth a search would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

[Knox]

An interesting note; the KC.com website is not being updated. The family made a request for pictures on 08/25. I'm sure they received a few, but no new photo's have been added (there are two photo's on the pray for Kristi Facebook page that look fairly recent that could be posted). The last news link on the site was 08/26. Why set up a page and not keep it current? The only way this makes sense is the family has information from LE which makes the updates unnecessary.

[Hollert]

I , too, have been curious about why the KC website is not being updated. My guess would be that whoever set it up for the Cornwell family is probably the only one with Administrator privileges and they have not had the time to work on it. I doubt that Kristi's parents worked on it and they probably do not spend a lot of time on a computer. I don't believe that the brother spends alot of time on the computer either. Also, LE probably doesn't have anything new to add. I am willing to bet that most of the leads have dried up by now.

[tiredblondy]

I too wondered why a suspects picture was not released in the atempted abduction in the Murphy incident.

[Knox]

Going back and researching video clips ... This is a quote from a friend of Kristi's (the person she is photographed with on the pray for KC FB website). Found the bolded italic text interesting.

SHERRY KIMSEY, CLOSE FRIEND OF KRISTI CORNWELL, MISSING MOM; OUTSIDE COMMAND CENTER: Well, as far as her state of mind, the last time I talked to her, she was extremely happy, she was happy with school, she was doing well. She was looking forward to life, and the thing that -- there`s two things about Kristi that really struck me when we first became friends. And number one is she is a true woman of faith.

She`s an independent person. It was a little surprising that she was overtaken. I believe that it was probably a sudden thing that happened. She`s a very -- just a very, like myself, very independent. And sometimes that can get us into trouble. But, she`s -- a kind, sweet person.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/17/ng.01.html

[panthera]

(snipped for space)


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re: “There aren’t any real similarities, but there is proximity,” said GBI spokesman John Bankhead.
No similarities, but proximity?

I watched a segment on WSB 2 Atlanta News on 09/02/2009. The Murphy NC Jogger was interviewed.

IMO, Similarities include: proximity

Time of attempted abduction 9:30 PM

Only two weeks between the Murphy attempted abduction and Kristi Cornwell's abduction.

Both Kristi and the Murphy jogger were alone in a rural area while exercising

Multiple suspects, (one was in the back of a pick up truck according to witnesses)

Targeted Victim in Murphy, NC could have been Kristi's sister; height, weight, hair color etc., were very similar in apearance.
Wolfscratch
I'm seeing red flags that it could be the same perp(s). I also find the one guy in the back of the pick up truck interesting since it could explain how Kristi was so quickly grabbed. :eek: MOO

[Knox]

I , too, have been curious about why the KC website is not being updated. My guess would be that whoever set it up for the Cornwell family is probably the only one with Administrator privileges and they have not had the time to work on it. I doubt that Kristi's parents worked on it and they probably do not spend a lot of time on a computer. I don't believe that the brother spends alot of time on the computer either. Also, LE probably doesn't have anything new to add. I am willing to bet that most of the leads have dried up by now.

Wouldn't that website be a pretty high priority? If that person did not have time to update it would be easy enough for someone else to work on it. Surely the person who set it up would not be proprietary about the admin privledges. What makes you think the brother doesn't spend much time online? As for the Mom, it has been said she is listed as a friend on KS's FB page so she must be somewhat inclined to be on the computer a little. I am not a FB member so I cannot verify that.

[nervous_nellie]

hello - im a lurker :) and i have a question i hope someone can answer, i have been reading all afternoon and havent seen who was the last to see kristi and where??? are they positive that she was abducted on this road??? thanx in advance!

[wolfscratch]

I'm seeing red flags that it could be the same perp(s). I also find the one guy in the back of the pick up truck interesting since it could explain how Kristi was so quickly grabbed. :eek: MOO

Panthera, the theory simply fits. Coupled with, the Fires Creek, NC, info, the Notterly Dam Rd/Hwy 325 discovery of the cell phone, as well as DD's slip of; "These people who abducted Kristi", and the extended silence by LE and the family.
At this point, I have very little optimistism for Kristi Cornwell's safe return..

[wolfscratch]

hello - im a lurker :) and i have a question i hope someone can answer, i have been reading all afternoon and havent seen who was the last to see kristi and where??? are they positive that she was abducted on this road??? thanx in advance!

Welcome Nervous_nellie. The first few pages of the first Kristi Cornwell thread should have a link to your question. If my memory is correct, it was her mother, aprox one hour before her abduction.
Per my info, LE is confident that she was abducted..

[nervous_nellie]

Panthera, the theory simply fits. Coupled with, the Fires Creek, NC, info, the Notterly Dam Rd/Hwy 325 discovery of the cell phone, as well as DD's slip of; "These people who abducted Kristi", and the extended silence by LE and the family.
At this point, I have very little optimistism for Kristi Cornwell's safe return..

so, dd is in the "know" of what LE knows? or dd is involved with this bunch of scruffy strangers? i think you mean that he knows what le knows, just making sure i understand :waitasec:....i just cant decide how i feel about dd. i guess he seems too, well, he sounds like the "charismatic" pastors/preachers, which i am not fond of so i think thats what is throwin my hinky meter off - but tuba et all are very rarely wrong. so, i am unable to disregard their info. maybe he just loves having an audience more than he is shocked ? :confused:

[Knox]

hello - im a lurker :) and i have a question i hope someone can answer, i have been reading all afternoon and havent seen who was the last to see kristi and where??? are they positive that she was abducted on this road??? thanx in advance!

The only verified siting of her came from an employee of Union Baptist Church. This person saw her walking on the road at around 9:00pm on the evening in question.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/19/ng.01.html

[samantha17]

I too wondered why a suspects picture was not released in the atempted abduction in the Murphy incident.

Probably because the witnesses (neighbors) didn't get close enough to the attempted abductor to feature a good composite drawing of his features ... they just say he was a scraggly white male with dirty blond hair that looked to be in his early 30's.

What surprises me is that no one has come forth with information on that faded red truck, since surely the attempted abductor was a local since the perps were riding around in downtown Murphy, but there's lots of things that don't make sense about this case ..... (ie: why have the Cornwell family, the LE and GBI completely shut down all info to the public that's seemingly making the case turn ice cold).

[nursebeeme]

I too wondered why a suspects picture was not released in the atempted abduction in the Murphy incident. Perhaps LE is not buying the car story... (???) just a thought... perhaps this case is "much closer to home" and LE knows it? Just a thought (nurse ducks)

[Knox]

Perhaps LE is not buying the car story... (???) just a thought... perhaps this case is "much closer to home" and LE knows it? Just a thought (nurse ducks)

Beginning to think you may be right Nurse (quit ducking!!!) :blowkiss:

[Hollert]

About my comments in post #184. The reasons I suggested that the KC website probably only has, notice I said "probably", one administrator is because it is not a government or commericial website. Someone "probably" volunteered to start it for them as an act of kindness. In regard to my comments about KC's family usage of the computer. I said that they "probably" do not spend much time on the computer. KC's mother does have a Facebook page, but only has 23 friends. KC's father and brother are not listed on KC's FB page as "friends" or her mother's FB page. I'm sorry if anyone out there thinks that I speak as if what I'm saying is gospel. I was just offering my opinion and theory. I certainly do not have all of the answers. I wish I could travel to Blairsville and work on this case and also that I had more time to scour the internet and news programs for additional info. I have been praying that LE will get a great tip soon.
On another note, has anyone looked at KC's chart in the last day or two to see if any particular activity or location is highlighted?

[Knox]

About my comments in post #184. The reasons I suggested that the KC website probably only has, notice I said "probably", one administrator is because it is not a government or commericial website. Someone "probably" volunteered to start it for them as an act of kindness. In regard to my comments about KC's family usage of the computer. I said that they "probably" do not spend much time on the computer. KC's mother does have a Facebook page, but only has 23 friends. KC's father and brother are not listed on KC's FB page as "friends" or her mother's FB page. I'm sorry if anyone out there thinks that I speak as if what I'm saying is gospel. I was just offering my opinion and theory. I certainly do not have all of the answers. I wish I could travel to Blairsville and work on this case and also that I had more time to scour the internet and news programs for additional info. I have been praying that LE will get a great tip soon.
On another note, has anyone looked at KC's chart in the last day or two to see if any particular activity or location is highlighted?

Wasn't criticizing, discussing. Thought you might have some new insights and asked the question. :)

Can you go to the games forum and rack up some posts? You need 50 to be able to receive PM's.

[Knox]

Govenor Offers Reward
http://www.nganews.com/viewer/default.aspx
Also read page 2, family lowers their reward.

[wolfscratch]

Govenor Offers Reward
http://www.nganews.com/viewer/default.aspx
Also read page 2, family lowers their reward.

Interesting that the family is starting a private investigation.

[samantha17]

All I got when accessing that website is Server Error in '/' Application ?????

[samantha17]

I found it by accessing www.nganews.com , but I can't seem to get to the second page.

[wolfscratch]

I found it by accessing www.nganews.com , but I can't seem to get to the second page.

enlarge, then click, 'return to website' on the upper right. then click page 2 on the left column

link: http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?IsHome=1&MemberID=1281&ID=2354&Module=Quickpage

[samantha17]

enlarge, then click, 'return to website' on the upper right. then click page 2 on the left column

link: http://www.nganews.com/content.aspx?IsHome=1&MemberID=1281&ID=2354&Module=Quickpage


Thanks wolf, I finally found page 2 .... I'm so glad that the family is persuing private investigation.

[wolfscratch]

Thanks wolf, I finally found page 2 .... I'm so glad that the family is persuing private investigation.

Me too Samantha. Sadly this is the route most families of the many vanishing women in GA and the SE, have resorted too, when their loved ones cases grow cold...Tara Grinstead: Dr Godfrey, Rosana Milana(NC): Steve Siske, etc..

(FYI: Had an exciting night. go to the GMH, Cheryl Dunlap thread)

[nursebeeme]

Interesting that the family is starting a private investigation. (the following is just my observations only!) I agree wolf... and everytime I see an interview with family or friends and the boyfriend I notice the family and friends get edgy... like suspicious... has anyone else noticed that??? I am not surprised at the launch of the "private investigation" by the family at all... nothing I can put a finger on... just a huge hinky feeling I get when I see the sideways glances and reserved demeanor when they are on camera together (family and bf)

[Knox]

Family's reaction is not surprising though is it Nurse? Kristi has worked in LE for many years, in the course of that work I am sure she crossed paths with many unsavory characters, but nothing ever happens to her. She meets DD online, knows him for six weeks (roughly) and then vanishes off the side of the road. He (DD) just happens to be the one on the phone with her when this happens. He then proceeds to make a number of media appearances, independent of the family, in which he appears less than genuine and to be capitalizing on his moment of fame. Take into consideration also, his statement that "he had met the family two days prior to the abduction, but they did not know who he was by design" (I am paraphrasing his words). If you were KC's family member wouldn't you wonder what the heck was going on? Who is this person she met online? He may have nothing to do with the abduction, but with all the above said, as a family member, I would definitely have questions for him.

[wolfscratch]

If Douglas Davis, was complicit in Kristi's abduction, he would not have alerted or attempted to alert LE in real time, allowing LE the oportunity to catch the abductors before reaching their intended safe haven or destination. Most abductions aren't noticed for hours or days later.

As for DD talking to Kristi on the cell phone to create an alibi, he could have been talking to anyone, since he was in Cobb County, GA. Talking to Kristi only drew suspicion on him.
I can see the family being suspicious of him due to the way that they met and short relationship. I am sure they are suspicious of many people, including friends and family members, but I think that this is normal in these situations..
Of course playing the percentages of suspecting the spouse, lover, or last personal contact, you would be right over 80% of the time.
IMO, this is why so many Stranger on Stranger abductions, lead to the arrest, indictment, conviction, and encarceration of the wrong people.

[Le Singe]

DD's media appearances were independent of the family in the sense that they were not there with him. However it would be interesting to know if they were truly independent (i.e. without the family’s knowledge or blessing) or if he ask for and received permission from the family to do these interviews in the interest of keeping the case in the news? I guess there’s no way to know this without the family saying, but this would be interesting to know.

One thought about certain ppl (DD and Ex’s maybe even certain registered SO’s in the area) being cleared is I have heard in stories of other crimes where LE has stated certain ppl where not suspects or they were not mentioned as suspect etc. b/c they were talking freely with LE and they knew as soon as subject was named as a prime suspect, or it became obvious, then they wouldn’t talk anymore. Seems like some times these ppl end up hanging themselves b/c they can't stop running their mouth. (Not saying any of this applies to DD just food for thought).

Despite all this it is still hard for me to believe DD is involved b/c his alibi is so tight (and seemingly easily verifiable) that for him to be involve it would have to have been a very well planned out crime, most likely involving more than one person, and what would DD's motive for being involved if it was that type of crime? (Except for the possibility that she ran away and DD was assisting her in concocting a story)

I still have the following questions:

1. What exactly was KC up to that day? I've heard some reports that she told her mom she was walking (for exercise) then left and the incident happened about an hour later. Other reports say she was walking home from church. Still others that she was she walking to the church and back, possibly for exercise or maybe because she had something going on at church. Is there any creditable information on which if any it was? This matters b/c when the last time she was seen alive and well would have a huge bearing on DD's possibility of being involved. (Please don't read too deeply into the above these are just my recollections of what I have read and it maybe mixing rumor fact and things I thought I read but didn't).

2. The family seems the THINK, not just hold out hope, that KC is still alive. Logic and statistics show that if she was in fact victim of a crime there is very little chance of this. So is the family’s belief that she is still alive just their way of dealing with the shock, very possible and entirely understandable? Or is there some evidence that this is the case, or even a reasonable possibility.

3. After reading over post from the first week of this case on the insession board I saw that there were some mentions of KC having some type of incident or run in with someone a week or two before being abducted. I saw this mentioned more than once, but after the first week it seemed to die out and I have seen no mention of it since. Was this just a rumor that was proved untrue? If there was something to it does anyone know what it was about? Why did it stop getting any mention?

[Le Singe]

If Douglas Davis, was complicit in Kristi's abduction, he would not have alerted or attempted to alert LE in real time, allowing LE the oportunity to catch the abductors before reaching their intended safe haven or destination. Most abductions aren't noticed for hours or days later.

As for DD talking to Kristi on the cell phone to create an alibi, he could have been talking to anyone, since he was in Cobb County, GA. Talking to Kristi only drew suspicion on him.
I can see the family being suspicious of him due to the way that they met and short relationship. I am sure they are suspicious of many people, including friends and family members, but I think that this is normal in these situations..
Of course playing the percentages of suspecting the spouse, lover, or last personal contact, you would be right over 80% of the time.
IMO, this is why so many Stranger on Stranger abductions, lead to the arrest, indictment, conviction, and encarceration of the wrong people.

As I stated in my post above (and in other post) I don't believe DD was involve (unless it was helping her run away). But just to play devils advocate to what you have said:

Many of the theories involving DD also include the actual crime being committed earlier than reported. One example would be the 'call' between DD and KC could actually have been someone letting him know the deed was done and they are safely away. Also It is not clear as to the first time the authorities where actually contacted. We know he called her mother for sure and there is some conflicting information on whether he tried to call 911 but could not get to get through to the right place, but as far as I know this has not been verified (if this is the case then there should be another investigation and some tweaking of our 911 system and procedures). I somewhat question this since it seems to me that when this happens the 911 operator usually will contact authorities in the area needed themselves, or at the very least stay on the line, but I don't know that this didn't happen. Then there is the issue of when did the family call 911 I’ve read on another forum that the incident report was time stamped at 1 am (this could be rumor), but there is question as to whether the family went out searching for a few hours and then called authorities, or if they called much earlier but the time was record at the time when the officers filed their report.

As far as being on the phone with her, with the benefit of hindsight this has clearly increased suspicion. But I think that this would not have been the obvious out come before hand. I could see him feeling that more suspicion would come his way if she had just up and disappeared than if he was able to say that he heard her being abducted. He may have thought that everyone would unquestionably assume it was a stranger abduction. Another possibility would be he wanted to be sure the deed had gone down before calling the mother or authorities b/c obviously if the plan had not worked out and he had called everyone with this story of abduction only to have her come walking in that would not have been good for him.

[Track292008]

I believe that a 1 a.m. time stamp on the 911 call can be accounted for by allowing a couple of hours for Kristi's brother to drive from his home in Knoxville (after being called by their mother) and then for him to go out and try to search along the route that her mother thought she had probably taken. Then, her brother comes back to the parents' house and calls 911.

MOO.

[wolfscratch]

LeSinge, I honor your opinion and apreciate your devil's advocacy.
There are so many scenarios possible. It would be very interesting to see the behavioral profile of the suspects prepared in this investigation. Don't think that's gonna happen, yet they did release one on the Bradley Hobbs Sisters; Winton, NC. (Way off Base, think they have the wrong man)

DD's 911 call was to Cobb Co 911. The 2nd was to Kristi's mother who then dialed Union County 911, while enroute to the abducton scene.(quick thinking on DD's part, except the mother could have endangered herself)
LE was most likely caught off guard; Tuesday night 9:30PM; not exactly a normal high crime night.(although that night seemed to be very violent)times they are a changin..

My theory is based on many factors, but here goes:

Crime of opportunity, stranger abduction, sexual motivation/power over others, (affected by the economy)unemployed construction workers; 2 possibly 3 with past felony drug records, happened up on Kristi accidentally, didn't know she was talking on the cell phone(blue tooth).

[oh_gal]

Are we still questioning whether or not DD is involved in this? (I am trying to keep up with the reading, and failing miserably!).

I don't think he's involved for a few reasons. First, they'd just met online, after a short period of time. It's not like this is a longstanding relationship, and he wants to get rid of her...(for what? Insurance money? Another woman? Boredom?) None of those are applicable here. Of course, he could be some lunatic trolling the internet for a victim, BUt...that leads me to my second point.

If the guy's background is to be believed (someone earlier posted a webpage link for him), he is an established entertainer, not some loner who has no friends, who could easily commit a crime like this. This guy is relatively "highly" visable, due to his performing schedule and other appearances he makes. He has a lot at stake to lose just for a "thrill" killing or abduction. Again, this is if his website is on the up and up.

Just my opinion, of course.

[samantha17]

Family's reaction is not surprising though is it Nurse? Kristi has worked in LE for many years, in the course of that work I am sure she crossed paths with many unsavory characters, but nothing ever happens to her.

And this is what should be investigated to the fullest by the PIs ... her past career being a parole officer and her work at a prison .... I honestly feel that it is someone in her past that abducted her .... a parolee or former prisoner that was obsessed with her or had a vendetta ... they would certainly have a criminal mind and, I believe, a criminal background/record.

There's just nothing there to even consider the boyfriend .... they had only been dating a few weeks so what would be the motive as he certainly had no time to build any rage or resentment toward her ..... and the opportunity was not there as he was proven to be in Atlanta (solid alibis) and she in Union County GA 2 hours away .... now had they been dating a long time, then I would certainly be looking at him.

[samantha17]

Are we still questioning whether or not DD is involved in this? (I am trying to keep up with the reading, and failing miserably!).

I don't think he's involved for a few reasons. First, they'd just met online, after a short period of time. It's not like this is a longstanding relationship, and he wants to get rid of her...(for what? Insurance money? Another woman? Boredom?) None of those are applicable here. Of course, he could be some lunatic trolling the internet for a victim, BUt...that leads me to my second point.

If the guy's background is to be believed (someone earlier posted a webpage link for him), he is an established entertainer, not some loner who has no friends, who could easily commit a crime like this. This guy is relatively "highly" visable, due to his performing schedule and other appearances he makes. He has a lot at stake to lose just for a "thrill" killing or abduction. Again, this is if his website is on the up and up.

Just my opinion, of course.

My sentiments exactly ..... !

[samantha17]

DD's 911 call was to Cobb Co 911. The 2nd was to Kristi's mother who then dialed Union County 911, while enroute to the abducton scene.(quick thinking on DD's part, except the mother could have endangered herself)
LE was most likely caught off guard; Tuesday night 9:30PM; not exactly a normal high crime night.(although that night seemed to be very violent)times they are a changin..).

As has been pointed out in another post above, her mother didn't call 911 until sometime around 1:00 a.m. due to the fact that I believe that the family wanted to search the area before calling 911 concerning Kristi being missing (LE won't usually do anything on a missing person call until 24 hours after it is reported), so I assume that's why they weren't in any hurry to call and someone said the family was waiting on her brother to come from Knoxville.

[Spyglass]

As has been pointed out in another post above, her mother didn't call 911 until sometime around 1:00 a.m. due to the fact that I believe that the family wanted to search the area before calling 911 concerning Kristi being missing (LE won't usually do anything on a missing person call until 24 hours after it is reported), so I assume that's why they weren't in any hurry to call and someone said the family was waiting on her brother to come from Knoxville.

This shouldn't have been considered a missing person case. There was a telephone "witness" to an abduction.

[MnkeyBznes]

I'm not an authority on the subject but I heard that 911 was called immediately and the sheriff's office did not respond until 1 am. I have a friend with a police scanner and they heard the call go out at around 1. I can't imagine the family waiting 3 1/2 hours to call.

[wolfscratch]

As has been pointed out in another post above, her mother didn't call 911 until sometime around 1:00 a.m. due to the fact that I believe that the family wanted to search the area before calling 911 concerning Kristi being missing (LE won't usually do anything on a missing person call until 24 hours after it is reported), so I assume that's why they weren't in any hurry to call and someone said the family was waiting on her brother to come from Knoxville.

IMO, it is being missinterpreted that the 911 call wasn't made until 1:00 AM. The case wasn't entered into the system by LE until 1:00 AM.
This was not a missing person, but an abduction. A 24 hour waiting period would not apply.

This does raise an interesting question as to the roadblock that DD ran into when calling the Cobb Co, GA 911 center. Did the operator consider it a missing person case? Is this why DD, called Kristi's mother to contact Union County 911?

[Knox]

As has been pointed out in another post above, her mother didn't call 911 until sometime around 1:00 a.m. due to the fact that I believe that the family wanted to search the area before calling 911 concerning Kristi being missing (LE won't usually do anything on a missing person call until 24 hours after it is reported), so I assume that's why they weren't in any hurry to call and someone said the family was waiting on her brother to come from Knoxville.

If this were true, I would find the fact they waited until RC arrived very strange.

[nursebeeme]

This shouldn't have been considered a missing person case. There was a telephone "witness" to an abduction.
a freakin men spyglass. SERIOUSLY. Perhaps this is why much weight has not been given to car descriptions, voice annalysis of the phone call during the abduction, etc..

Is LE looking a "certain way" right now and not saying anything yet? At this time metihinks perhaps..........

[wolfscratch]

Coming up on a month now since Kristi Cornwell, was abducted, media coverage almost nonexistent, family hiring a private investigator, no POIs or significant leads that we are aware of.. What gives?

I can't imagine what the family is enduring with the what ifs and unknowns. Here is a good example of the grief shared by an abduction victim's mother:

http://www.helpfindmeganmaxwell.com/

[Pegatha]

I don't believe in coincidences and that is why the timing of a new boyfriend that she doesn't really know really bothers me. The part where he just visited the family for the first time a few days prior seems so suspicious as well. However, I do agree with Oh_Gal that a motive for him is just incomprehensible and the logistics of him pulling it off are too complex. It also sounds like the police have checked out his alibi.

So what if "new boyfriend" who just visited home for the first time was the TRIGGER for the event, but he is not the guilty party. Maybe someone from her area was stalking her or had a crush on her. When new boyfriend entered the picture his imaginary world crumbled and he acted. Or someone from "new boyfriend's" world didn't like her being in the picture and did something about it.

Just a theory.

[samantha17]

I don't believe in coincidences and that is why the timing of a new boyfriend that she doesn't really know really bothers me. The part where he just visited the family for the first time a few days prior seems so suspicious as well. However, I do agree with Oh_Gal that a motive for him is just incomprehensible and the logistics of him pulling it off are too complex. It also sounds like the police have checked out his alibi.

So what if "new boyfriend" who just visited home for the first time was the TRIGGER for the event, but he is not the guilty party. Maybe someone from her area was stalking her or had a crush on her. When new boyfriend entered the picture his imaginary world crumbled and he acted. Or someone from "new boyfriend's" world didn't like her being in the picture and did something about it.

Just a theory.

Could be, and I believe whoever abducted her had stalked her, knew her walking habits and they were just waiting for the right time and opportunity to grab her, therefore LE should be looking at people in the Cornwell's neighborhood/area of residence.

Also, someone would had to have known that she was visiting her parents at that exact time and was away from her apartment in Dalton, which brings up another theory .... it could have been someone she knew from Dalton, but I have not heard mention of anyone being questioned from that town. That's why I believe a private investigator is necessary if this crime is to ever be solved.

I have never believed this was a random abduction .... that it was someone she knew.

[Novice Seeker]

And this is what should be investigated to the fullest by the PIs ... her past career being a parole officer and her work at a prison .... I honestly feel that it is someone in her past that abducted her .... a parolee or former prisoner that was obsessed with her or had a vendetta ... they would certainly have a criminal mind and, I believe, a criminal background/record.

There's just nothing there to even consider the boyfriend .... they had only been dating a few weeks so what would be the motive as he certainly had no time to build any rage or resentment toward her ..... and the opportunity was not there as he was proven to be in Atlanta (solid alibis) and she in Union County GA 2 hours away .... now had they been dating a long time, then I would certainly be looking at him.



You're implying to motives often seen in couples who have been together for some time. Motives for cases such as this could be, DD and Kristi spent time on the internet, agreed to meet and Kristi lost interest,recognized a trait that wasn't good, perhaps he wanted to move much fast than she, maybe he felt rejected, just a few motives from the standpoint they had only known each other for a brief time. Was DD married before? If so were there behaviors within that relationship which could have contributed to the divorce? There's always motive, the hard part is figuring what that is.

[Knox]

I'm not an authority on the subject but I heard that 911 was called immediately and the sheriff's office did not respond until 1 am. I have a friend with a police scanner and they heard the call go out at around 1. I can't imagine the family waiting 3 1/2 hours to call.

I need to go back and research to verify, but wasn't there a murder that same night in Blairsville? The elderly man who killed his caretaker? That could explain the tardy response to JC's 911 call?

[Speak Out]

Could be, and I believe whoever abducted her had stalked her, knew her walking habits and they were just waiting for the right time and opportunity to grab her, therefore LE should be looking at people in the Cornwell's neighborhood/area of residence.

Also, someone would had to have known that she was visiting her parents at that exact time and was away from her apartment in Dalton, which brings up another theory .... it could have been someone she knew from Dalton, but I have not heard mention of anyone being questioned from that town. That's why I believe a private investigator is necessary if this crime is to ever be solved.

I have never believed this was a random abduction .... that it was someone she knew.


All of the neighbors near her parent's home and her apartment were visited and interviewed immediately following her dissappearance.

[samantha17]

If so were there behaviors within that relationship which could have contributed to the divorce? There's always motive, the hard part is figuring what that is.

I assume he had been married previously since he had a 25 year old daughter that sang with him in his ministry and she was posting at one time on another blog, but I don't know if D. Davis was widowed or divorced.

[samantha17]

All of the neighbors near her parent's home and her apartment were visited and interviewed immediately following her dissappearance.

I realize that ... what I meant was perhaps a second look is needed.

[MnkeyBznes]

I need to go back and research to verify, but wasn't there a murder that same night in Blairsville? The elderly man who killed his caretaker? That could explain the tardy response to JC's 911 call?

Yes Knox there was a murder and a LE car chase that same night. Too much going on in our little town. :frown:

[oh_gal]

You're implying to motives often seen in couples who have been together for some time. Motives for cases such as this could be, DD and Kristi spent time on the internet, agreed to meet and Kristi lost interest,recognized a trait that wasn't good, perhaps he wanted to move much fast than she, maybe he felt rejected, just a few motives from the standpoint they had only known each other for a brief time. Was DD married before? If so were there behaviors within that relationship which could have contributed to the divorce? There's always motive, the hard part is figuring what that is.

But unless he is a sociopath (which he could be, who knows?), if they met in person and things didn't work out, he'd probably just cut his losses and move on, not abduct/harm her.

[wolfscratch]

I realize that ... what I meant was perhaps a second look is needed.

Saw a news article a couple weeks ago, where the GBI reinterviewed the neighbors, in case they remembered something after having time to rehash everything in their mind.

[nursebeeme]

But unless he is a sociopath (which he could be, who knows?), if they met in person and things didn't work out, he'd probably just cut his losses and move on, not abduct/harm her. ~or~ if he is a narciscistic sociopath he may have decided that if she wouldn't have him... than she wouldn't have anyone (just throwing that in the mix for thought)

His behavior was strange to me on camera.. rather reminded me of a certain Ms Anthony. (moo)

[samantha17]

From today's Clay County NC Progress newspaper:

It has been a month since the apparent abduction of a 38-year-old Blairsville, Ga. woman and while the glare of media attention has dimmed, the investigation remains a priority, according to GBI Director of Public Affairs, John Bankhead.

“This has been switched from a general search to a missing person investigation and that will continue until she is found,” Bankhead said.

[Le Singe]

From today's Clay County NC Progress newspaper:

It has been a month since the apparent abduction of a 38-year-old Blairsville, Ga. woman and while the glare of media attention has dimmed, the investigation remains a priority, according to GBI Director of Public Affairs, John Bankhead.

“This has been switched from a general search to a missing person investigation and that will continue until she is found,” Bankhead said.

interesting verbage here if could be from the reporter and not mean anything but "apparent abduction" and that it has been moved from a general search to a missing persons, why is that news worthy.

I'm probibly reading to deep into this but w/e.

[Knox]

Always nice to have a link to the actual story. I wonder how old that quote is from Bankhead? Did this reporter actually speak to him in writing this story or is this an old quote from another interview?

http://claycountyprogress.com/articles/2009/09/10/news/doc4aa803f582e56605828459.txt

On another note, I read this on another forum. It serves no purpose other than for background information purposes. One of KC's ex-husbands is the chief of security at Colwell Probation & Detention Facility. If this was where KC worked as a probation officer, perhaps this is the reason she choose to quit LE and was seeking a new career in the medical field.

http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/pdf/FacilitiesListing.pdf

[samantha17]

interesting verbage here if could be from the reporter and not mean anything but "apparent abduction" and that it has been moved from a general search to a missing persons, why is that news worthy.

I'm probibly reading to deep into this but w/e.

All I know is that is what was quoted in that newspaper today ... they didn't give a timeline of when Bankhead said what he said.

[wolfscratch]

This article from only 3 days after Kristi's abduction is very revealing, IMO.

http://www.11alive.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=133868&provider=top

Emerson Case Encourages, Haunts, GBI in Search for Kristi Cornwell

Updated 8/14/2009 9:46:34 PM
Jon Shirek

UNION COUNTY, Ga. -- Time is our enemy. Hope is dwindling.

That was the assessment of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation Friday evening as searchers continued to look for 38 year old Kristi Cornwell in the North Georgia mountains of Union County.

Cornwell disappeared Tuesday night while taking a walk near her home, and investigators believe someone abducted her.

The GBI says that fresh on everyone's mind is Meredith Emerson, who was abducted from the same mountains on Jan. 1, 2008 while hiking, and was alive for several days after that. (Gary Hilton later confessed to kidnapping and murdering her).

So searchers continued to have hope for Kristi Cornwell, some 72 hours after she disappeared.

[txsvicki]

I hope they let those dogs track Kristi as far as they will go no matter how far they have to run or walk with them.

[Knox]

Speaking of dogs txsvicki. I was reading on the Lindsey Baum thread and found some interesting information. There is a K-9 search and rescue organization based out of Longview, WA headed up by a man named Harry Oakes. I'll let you guys read about him in the link. He was instrumental in bringing Ward Weaver to justice in Oregon and his statistics seem pretty impressive. I know they brought in a K-9 search team for Kristi, but wouldn't it be great if they could bring Harry in to take a look? Would it be futile if she was abducted by car? Just trying to think of some action that could be taken, I don't sit on my hands well ...

http://www.k9sardog.com/missions.html

[wolfscratch]

Speaking of dogs txsvicki. I was reading on the Lindsey Baum thread and found some interesting information. There is a K-9 search and rescue organization based out of Longview, WA headed up by a man named Harry Oakes. I'll let you guys read about him in the link. He was instrumental in bringing Ward Weaver to justice in Oregon and his statistics seem pretty impressive. I know they brought in a K-9 search team for Kristi, but wouldn't it be great if they could bring Harry in to take a look? Would it be futile if she was abducted by car? Just trying to think of some action that could be taken, I don't sit on my hands well ...

http://www.k9sardog.com/missions.html

Knox, very impressive stats by Harry Oaks' Organization.
A search Org that I have been following for a couple of years is Monica Caisons' CUE Center, out of NC. She is a kindred spirit, been very successful in her searches for decades, and works strickly on donations, fund raisers, grants, and out of her own pocket. Simply a great, caring, and effective Organization.
She works well with LE and assists in many of their searches.
Once an area is identified, I am confident that they will be on the scene.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/one-nations-top-heros-monica-caison

[christine2448]

Knox, very impressive stats by Harry Oaks' Organization.
A search Org that I have been following for a couple of years is Monica Caisons' CUE Center, out of NC. She is a kindred spirit, been very successful in her searches for decades, and works strickly on donations, fund raisers, grants, and out of her own pocket. Simply a great, caring, and effective Organization.
She works well with LE and assists in many of their searches.
Once an area is identified, I am confident that they will be on the scene.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/one-nations-top-heros-monica-caison

OT.

She just finished up Tour, On the Road to Remember....trying to bring new light to cold cases...she visited us here, Lighting the Way Home, Peachtree City, GA.

Click on link below to view all rally stops made this year featuring 104 cases of missing persons in the tour path, thank you
http://www.ncmissingpersons.org/category/national-road-tour/

[Novice Seeker]

But unless he is a sociopath (which he could be, who knows?), if they met in person and things didn't work out, he'd probably just cut his losses and move on, not abduct/harm her.

It's possible but we don't know what his life had been like previous. Did he have difficulty with woment and thus the internet. Had he been under pressure or strain within his life during the time he met Kristi. Do we really know his inner most attitude of women? Such as a one best seen but never encouraged to speak or think for themselves. I really don't know. These are just some thoughts in addition to hearing from those who have know DD for a long time other than a daughter who passionately defends her dad to only discover he hadn't been quite truthful with her about this relationship.

It may be nothing but again....

[Novice Seeker]

~or~ if he is a narciscistic sociopath he may have decided that if she wouldn't have him... than she wouldn't have anyone (just throwing that in the mix for thought)

His behavior was strange to me on camera.. rather reminded me of a certain Ms Anthony. (moo)



I agree. Don't know why but when I see DD I see a mask.

[samantha17]

These are just some thoughts in addition to hearing from those who have know DD for a long time other than a daughter who passionately defends her dad to only discover he hadn't been quite truthful with her about this relationship.....

Please explain, haven't heard anything about this, what was the untruth concerning his and Kristi's relationship?

[Knox]

DD's Last prayer request for Kristi was August 28. No mention of that benefit concert he stated he was going to perform. Does anyone know if there was a live interview done at the benefit at Bill's skating rink held on August 29th/

http://elianagodanswers.org/catalog/blog/

[nursebeeme]

come home Kristi!

[Speak Out]

I assume he had been married previously since he had a 25 year old daughter that sang with him in his ministry and she was posting at one time on another blog, but I don't know if D. Davis was widowed or divorced.

Divorced

[Speak Out]

I realize that ... what I meant was perhaps a second look is needed.

You stated that you hadn't read of interviews near her apartment and wondered if that had been done, so I was answering your question.

Yes, people were also re-interviewed. They also tracked down and interviewed anyone who was visiting any of the neighbors on or near the day that Kristi was abducted. Again, this was all done immediately after her abduction.

[samantha17]

You stated that you hadn't read of interviews near her apartment and wondered if that had been done, so I was answering your question.

Yes, people were also re-interviewed. They also tracked down and interviewed anyone who was visiting any of the neighbors on or near the day that Kristi was abducted. Again, this was all done immediately after her abduction.

Speak Out, you really seem to be 'in the know' concerning this case ... what else do you know that you could inform us .... LE and the family are being so hush/hush.