Press conference 6:30 pm Thurs.- car details

[Capri]

BUENA PARK, CALIF. — Police say they will hold a news conference to disclose what they found in the car of an ex-model whose slaying in Southern California prompted an international manhunt for a reality TV show contestant wanted in her murder.
Buena Park police Sgt. Bill Kohanek said Thursday the news conference will be held at police headquarters at 6:30 p.m.

Source: wral.com

[ylime11]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABFU200

[LilyMacBloom]

'cus I'll be in my beddy bye...grrrr time zones!

Not sure where to post this ...........J BEAN YOU HAVE DONE AN AWSOME JOB ORGANIZING THIS FORUM!!!!! My hat goes off to you.

Also, of note, I have not seen, not once, any "I respectfully disagree" etc. So! Kudos, to all the posters in this forum...your respect and tact are highly appreciated by many (I'm one)

the other one thingy that just blows my mind...You lucky peeps in the US of A get ALL the info....we poor Canooks get nuttin. Love the RCMP but ...give up the info boys! We all wanna know!

[mankato64]

are there any links available to hear the press conference that anyone knows of?

[racerzeke]

I'll try to record what is shown on the local news here if it is and post it up on youtube

[Capri]

are there any links available to hear the press conference that anyone knows of?

Looking, looking.... Anyone found a live feed?

[JBean]

probably will be on www.kfi640.com
click listen live I am assuming it will be on they cover all this stuff.

[scandi]

Looking, looking.... Anyone found a live feed?

Often TMZ has minute by minute updates on things like this. I'll go open up that link xox

Nothing yet. Maybe a live feed on Bean's fav tv station.

[JBean]

nothing on my radio station :(

[racerzeke]

Well I got half of it the news guy cut it off....

"significant blood loss and splatter in the vehicle"

[panthera]

Well I got half of it the news guy cut it off....

"significant blood loss and splatter in the vehicle"
What part of the vehicle?

[scandi]

What part of the vehicle?

http://www.tmz.com/

[racerzeke]

Passenger seat and the rear passenger seat. Blood splatter on the rear window. The car was washed after the fact. Smears of blood in the car to show wiping. And weeds and stuff in the undercarriage suggesting it was taken off road in an unusal fashion.

It is still going on but thats all that I got

[Paladine]

TMZ is reporting "blood splatter" and signs of a struggle in car...

[JBean]

surprise surprise

[JBean]

here we have it:

The cops say she could have "easily fit in the suitcase."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PREtUtLt

[JBean]

so what is interesting is that she really never di go back in the hotel at all. Those reports of seeing her on video are probably when they checked in not when they came back after the party?
Something isn't being reported right.

[JBean]

so he beat the carp out of her and strangled her in the car.

But when?!

[Capri]

no live feed that i can find, but TMZ so far...I'll delete after it, due to copywright issues

<<Buena Park police are holding a press conference right now about Jasmine Fiore's murder and said there were blood splatters inside her Mercedes.

... "struggle between two people in the car."

Cops say her fingers were cut off at the tips post-mortem. Clothes were found in the trunk. Cops say they are still looking for certain articles of her clothing.

There were fragments of her teeth in the suitcase -- so they can assume her teeth were removed as she around the suitcase.

There's no reason to believe her teeth were removed in the vehicle.

The cops say she could have "easily fit in the suitcase.">>



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRFeMLRf

[jilly]

so what is interesting is that she really never di go back in the hotel at all. Those reports of seeing her on video are probably when they checked in not when they came back after the party?
Something isn't being reported right.

AHA!! That's gotta be it!

[arielilane]

How horrible what has been reported. What a monster he was.
http://www.tmz.com/

[racerzeke]

Cap00-1.flv video by Racerzeke - Photobucket

Here is the first half for anyone who wants to be first . Im sure TMZ will have the full thing up. Sorry about the buzz, I dont know what that is =X

[Capri]

more added (TMZ)

TIMELINE HERE:

Both suspects were seen entering her Mercedes at a San Diego Hilton at 2:30 AM on the morning of the 14th of August. She was never seen again. Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving another hotel at 9:20 AM. The next time he was seen on video, was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles.

Ryan possibly assaulted her in the vehicle near Corona between the hours of 11 AM and 2 PM. The car possibly went off road during the assault. That area may be where he assaulted her further. The next day she was found in the trash. A witness saw Ryan in Buena Park the area where her body was dumped later that afternoon.
They say the Corona area is of interest because her suitcase and other remains may be in that area.

A prelimary report by the coroner says she was killed by strangulation. Some sort of violent act occurred in her Mercedes. Cops say she was either killed in the car or at a hotel.

A bladed sharp instrument was used to cut her fingertips off, they don't know exactly what.

Story developing...



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRGQcm9k

[Capri]

and more:

<<The severing of her fingers were definitely done post-mortem. Her nose was broken and she sustained head injuries. Pliers could have been used to pull her teeth out. There were fragments of her teeth in the suitcase.

Cops say it was a domestic violence case gone bad ... and it was all over "jealousy.">>

Source: TMZ






Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRH7oCTI

[racerzeke]

I would really like to see the evidence even if it is eye witness testimony placing Ryan Jenkins in Buena Park.

[Capri]

<<Jasmine's Mercedes was abandone 1.3 miles from Ryan and Jasmine's residence in Los Angeles.
Cops say there's evidence there was flailing of arms consistent with a struggle. Cops say the Royal Canadian Mounted Police have not been very forthcoming with evidence found at the motel where Jenkins killed himself.>>




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRHreBHN

[Capri]

<<Jenkins suitcase, the one he left the La Barge hotel was found in a storage facility in Washington state.

Cops say he had no help from anyone in California. They say Ryan drove to Nevada then up to Washington....no evidence sexual assault on Jasmine.

Story developing...>>

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRIOMvQ2

[Paladine]

so he beat the carp out of her and strangled her in the car.

But when?!

Someone beat the crap out of her and strangled her...but I'm struggling to see hard evidence it was Ryan, and I'm usually one of the first to hang a perp...lol...maybe, more's to come.

WHEN means so much, JBean...

[JBean]

more added (TMZ)

TIMELINE HERE:

Both suspects were seen entering her Mercedes at a San Diego Hilton at 2:30 AM on the morning of the 14th of August. She was never seen again. Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving another hotel at 9:20 AM. The next time he was seen on video, was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles.

Ryan possibly assaulted her in the vehicle near Corona between the hours of 11 AM and 2 PM. The car possibly went off road during the assault. That area may be where he assaulted her further. The next day she was found in the trash. A witness saw Ryan in Buena Park the area where her body was dumped later that afternoon.
They say the Corona area is of interest because her suitcase and other remains may be in that area.

A prelimary report by the coroner says she was killed by strangulation. Some sort of violent act occurred in her Mercedes. Cops say she was either killed in the car or at a hotel.

A bladed sharp instrument was used to cut her fingertips off, they don't know exactly what.

Story developing...



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRGQcm9kCORONA! he went all over creation. he covered LA, San Diego,Orange and Riverside counties.
Well we know he did not bring her down in the suitcase and that she was not on tape going into the Del Mar hotel.

thank you this answers lots of questions... or not.

[racerzeke]

Hard to believe this lone Ryan Jenkins can travel as many places as he did without being seen. Imagine how many gas stations, etc. he had to stop in.

Nevada now?

[JBean]

shoot 11 am and 2 pm?

[Paladine]

Jenkins suitcase, the one he left the La Barge hotel was found in a storage facility in Washington state.

Cops say he had no help from anyone in California. They say Ryan drove to Nevada then up to Washington.

Cops say there was no evidence sexual assault on Jasmine.

Story developing...

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRIOMvQ2

So, the suitcase she was found in wasn't the one he had? Wonder if there's signs of Jasmine in it...

[JBean]

so did he like leave her in the car and go back and beat on her some more later?

[KAE]

Hard to believe this lone Ryan Jenkins can travel as many places as he did without being seen. Imagine how many gas stations, etc. he had to stop in.

Nevada now?

Lake Mead - To get his boat?

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.033429,-114.75979&spn=0.130211,0.248909&z=13

[racerzeke]

Wonder why he went to Nevada and how they found the suitcase in Washington.

This press conference seems to make things a lot more confusing

[JBean]

Lake Mead - To get his boat?

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=36.033429,-114.75979&spn=0.130211,0.248909&z=13
Oh hey we had his boat at Lake mead early on.

[Earthling]

CORONA! he went all over creation. he covered LA, San Diego,Orange and Riverside counties.
Well we know he did not bring her down in the suitcase and that she was not on tape going into the Del Mar hotel.

thank you this answers lots of questions... or not.

JBean,

I remember hearing a little blurb on the radio not too long ago that
the CHP was searching an area around Corona for a car that had
appeared to have gone off the road. I think this was before they found her.

Earthling

[Capri]

Wondering what they have on him in Corona? Said pretty confidently, it seems.

[Paladine]

Originally Posted by Capri View Post
more added (TMZ)

TIMELINE HERE:

Both suspects were seen entering her Mercedes at a San Diego Hilton at 2:30 AM on the morning of the 14th of August. She was never seen again. Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving another hotel at 9:20 AM. The next time he was seen on video, was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles.

Ryan possibly assaulted her in the vehicle near Corona between the hours of 11 AM and 2 PM. The car possibly went off road during the assault. That area may be where he assaulted her further. The next day she was found in the trash. A witness saw Ryan in Buena Park the area where her body was dumped later that afternoon.
They say the Corona area is of interest because her suitcase and other remains may be in that area.

A prelimary report by the coroner says she was killed by strangulation. Some sort of violent act occurred in her Mercedes. Cops say she was either killed in the car or at a hotel.

A bladed sharp instrument was used to cut her fingertips off, they don't know exactly what.

Story developing...



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRGQcm9k


So, they are saying he assaulted her on the drive home on Friday between 11 and 2? Then where was she when he left the hotel? I thought the fact she wasn't around was 'proof' he killed her the night before?

I must be missing something or stupider than I thought...;)

A witness saw Ryan in Toronto, too...even the Police thought it was him...did the witness know him, speak to him?...video would sure be nice, imo...

So, the car could be the crime scene...or maybe not...?

And how did they come up with Corona?

More questions than answers...

Edited to add...and how does no one notice a Man beating a Woman in a car on a highway, so violently, mid-day on a Friday, that the white Mercedes goes off the road and NO ONE see's it? I've been in cars that went off the road...not easy to get them back on the road without a push or rope/tow...not sure about that...

[racerzeke]

Oh it is confirmed that his boat was in Nevada? Then I guess that is why. Seems like he was experienced in crossing the border or something. But then again, he walked across.

I'd like to see what they had on him in Buena Park and Corona.

I'm so confused!

[JBean]

JBean,

I remember hearing a little blurb on the radio not too long ago that
the CHP was searching an area around Corona for a car that had
appeared to have gone off the road. I think this was before they found her.

Earthling
Gosh I have to do some more homework.

[jilly]

Wonder why he went to Nevada and how they found the suitcase in Washington.

This press conference seems to make things a lot more confusing

The boat.

[Paladine]

Wondering what they have on him in Corona? Said pretty confidently, it seems.

Yeah..what's with Corona...maybe the type of vegetation, there? Under carriage of the car? I heard there were some plants or something under the car..<<RUMOR Is Corona different at all?

[Earthling]

So, they are saying he assaulted her on the drive home on Friday between 11 and 2? Then where was she when he left the hotel? I thought the fact she wasn't around was 'proof' he killed her the night before?

I must be missing something or stupider than I thought...;)

A witness saw Ryan in Toronto, too...even the Police thought it was him...did the witness know him, speak to him?...video would sure be nice, imo...

So, the car could be the crime scene...or maybe not...?

And how did they come up with Corona?

More questions than answers...

Edited to add...and how does no one notice a Man beating a Woman in a car on a highway, so violently, mid-day on a Friday, that the white Mercedes goes off the road and NO ONE see's it? I've been in cars that went off the road...not easy to get them back on the road without a push or rope/tow...not sure about that...

If he was on the 15 or the 241 freeways it would be very possible.
The 15 borders Corona to the east and the 241 to the west. During the time they mention - the traffic is not too heavy. The freeways are very wide and divided in the middle and are surrounded mostly by wilderness.

Earthling

[jilly]

so did he like leave her in the car and go back and beat on her some more later?

I figure after they were struggling, they went off the road and when he straightened out, he went to town on her.

[racerzeke]

So he left the hotel at 2:30 am in San Diego and then went to another hotel and left there at 9 am? And then he arrived at his residence at 5 PM on the 14th so he had not dumped the body yet?

[JBean]

Okay help me. where was she Friday between 2:30 am and 11am?

[Capri]

Take a look at Normcar21's map. I took the liberty of adding Corona, just for location purposes. Of course, the order is off now, b/c no doubt Corona came right before the body dumpster disposal in Buena Park.

Wondering what the 2nd hotel was, also.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?1qn=Ivy+Hotel&1c=San+Diego&1s=CA&1a=600+F+St&1z=92101&1y=US&1l=32.71362&1g=-117.159219&1v=ADDRESS&1id=27023547&2c=San+Diego&2s=CA&2a=600+F+St&2z=92101&2pn=auberge+del+mar&2y=US&2l=32.71362&2g=-117.159219&2v=ADDRESS#a/maps/l:Ivy+Hotel:600+F+St:San+Diego:CA:92101:US:32.7136 2:-117.159219:address::1/l:L%27Auberge+Del+Mar+Resort+Spa:1540+Camino+Del+M ar:Del+Mar:CA:92014:US:32.960244:-117.265375:address::1/l::7400+Franklin+St:Buena+Park:CA:90621-1813:US:33.87681:-118.003959:address:Orange+County:1/l:Trader+Joe%27s:8611+Santa+Monica+Blvd:West+Holly wood:CA:90069:US:34.088015:-118.379144:address::1/l::800+N+Edinburgh+Ave:Los+Angeles:CA:90046-6904:US:34.08548:-118.363769:address:Los+Angeles+County:1/l:::Corona:CA::US:33.875301:-117.565598:city:Riverside+County:1/m::5:33.403653:-117.773427:0:::::::::/io:1:::::f:EN:M:/e

[Capri]

Okay help me. where was she Friday between 2:30 am and 11am?

Good question- passed out in the car?

[amysmom]

Cap00-1.flv video by Racerzeke - Photobucket (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Racerzeke/?action=view&current=Cap00-1.flv)

Here is the first half for anyone who wants to be first . Im sure TMZ will have the full thing up. Sorry about the buzz, I dont know what that is =X

TY! TMZ failed to mention the hair found on floor of car..Pulled during struggle according to LE..Not sure yet if his or hers..I hope it turns out to be his & we also find out he had numerous & serious (defensive) injuries which was hinted at by RCMP on Nancy IIRC..It will make me feel a tad bit better to know she put up one hell of a fight!

[JBean]

Good question- passed out in the car?We have filled up voids in he timeline and created new ones.
Passed out or knocked out or what?> in the trunk?

[racerzeke]

If he killed her or removed her fingers and teeth in the rural area of Corona why not dump her body there?

The body seems to be less likely to be found in the desert rather than in a city trash can


Also TMZ quotes LE as saying her suitcase might be in Corona. Which suitcase was her body in? Which suitcase was in Washington?

[Paladine]

Okay help me. where was she Friday between 2:30 am and 11am?

EXACTLY! That's where I get stuck...see, she was last seen with him on Friday 2 am-ish...how do we know she was even with him around time of death? Very frustrating...

SOMEONE beat her and killled her...but where's the specific evidence it was Ryan?

[JBean]

Take a look at Normcar21's map. I took the liberty of adding Corona, just for location purposes. Of course, the order is off now, b/c no doubt Corona came right before the body dumpster disposal in Buena Park.

Wondering what the 2nd hotel was, also.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?1qn=Ivy+Hotel&1c=San+Diego&1s=CA&1a=600+F+St&1z=92101&1y=US&1l=32.71362&1g=-117.159219&1v=ADDRESS&1id=27023547&2c=San+Diego&2s=CA&2a=600+F+St&2z=92101&2pn=auberge+del+mar&2y=US&2l=32.71362&2g=-117.159219&2v=ADDRESS#a/maps/l:Ivy+Hotel:600+F+St:San+Diego:CA:92101:US:32.7136 2:-117.159219:address::1/l:L%27Auberge+Del+Mar+Resort+Spa:1540+Camino+Del+M ar:Del+Mar:CA:92014:US:32.960244:-117.265375:address::1/l::7400+Franklin+St:Buena+Park:CA:90621-1813:US:33.87681:-118.003959:address:Orange+County:1/l:Trader+Joe%27s:8611+Santa+Monica+Blvd:West+Holly wood:CA:90069:US:34.088015:-118.379144:address::1/l::800+N+Edinburgh+Ave:Los+Angeles:CA:90046-6904:US:34.08548:-118.363769:address:Los+Angeles+County:1/l:::Corona:CA::US:33.875301:-117.565598:city:Riverside+County:1/m::5:33.403653:-117.773427:0:::::::::/io:1:::::f:EN:M:/e
He definitely took the 15 from San Diego and went out to the inland empire. maybe he went to a hotel in Corona. Then he cut over to Buena Park by using the 91 and straight up the 5 home.

[Paladine]

TY! TMZ failed to mention the hair found on floor of car..Pulled during struggle according to LE..Not sure yet if his or hers..I hope it turns out to be his & we also find out he had numerous & serious (defensive) injuries which was hinted at by RCMP on Nancy IIRC..It will make me feel a tad bit better to know she put up one hell of a fight!

That would help me believe...if they have his hair...not a few, 'cause he was likely in the car alot...but lots...handfuls...

[jilly]

They did say there was a lot more blood in the back seat, so I think she might have been unconcious and bleeding back there.

[JBean]

EXACTLY! That's where I get stuck...see, she was last seen with him on Friday 2 am-ish...how do we know she was even with him around time of death? Very frustrating...

SOMEONE beat her and killled her...but where's the specific evidence it was Ryan?Cause he said he saw her Saturday in the afternoon or early evening that's how we know. he said she dropped him off at their apt after their SD trip. She was already dead then.

[JBean]

They did say there was a lot more blood in the back seat, so I think she might have been unconcious and bleeding back there.

I think he put her in the back and mutilated her in the back seat.

[krt]

Okay help me. where was she Friday between 2:30 am and 11am?

Maybe she was with that guy she picked up from jail???

[amysmom]

I always did find it very hard to believe he carried her out of the hotel in the suitcase BUT! how does LE know they found that same exact one seen on the video? Most ppl have a set & if it really wasnt that one she was dumped in what one was it & where did it come from?

[racerzeke]

Apparently LE have 3 suitcases floating around, of course as reported by TMZ from the press conference.

1 in Washington (whose storage facility was it how did they find it) 1 in the dumpster, and 1 outstanding supposedly in or near Corona?

Everything just took a huge confusing turn downwards

[Normcar21]

EXACTLY! That's where I get stuck...see, she was last seen with him on Friday 2 am-ish...how do we know she was even with him around time of death? Very frustrating...

SOMEONE beat her and killled her...but where's the specific evidence it was Ryan?

Motive perhaps should be considered. Who else on the face of this earth had a motive to kill Jasmine?

Ryan had a a SERIOUS argument with her that night, witnesses saw it and have reported it, she insulted him in public and texted her bf in the bathroom for the majority of the evening which pissed Ryan off enough for him to shout out, "Who were you talking to?"

Then they left, with each other, still pissed off at each other...that's about as dysfunctional as it gets, and is also...motive (take your pick for whom), and then the "suck it" text message on "her" cellphone 15 minutes after both of them left the party.

[enzeder]

Take a look at Normcar21's map. I took the liberty of adding Corona, just for location purposes. Of course, the order is off now, b/c no doubt Corona came right before the body dumpster disposal in Buena Park.

Wondering what the 2nd hotel was, also.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps?1qn=Ivy+Hotel&1c=San+Diego&1s=CA&1a=600+F+St&1z=92101&1y=US&1l=32.71362&1g=-117.159219&1v=ADDRESS&1id=27023547&2c=San+Diego&2s=CA&2a=600+F+St&2z=92101&2pn=auberge+del+mar&2y=US&2l=32.71362&2g=-117.159219&2v=ADDRESS#a/maps/l:Ivy+Hotel:600+F+St:San+Diego:CA:92101:US:32.7136 2:-117.159219:address::1/l:L%27Auberge+Del+Mar+Resort+Spa:1540+Camino+Del+M ar:Del+Mar:CA:92014:US:32.960244:-117.265375:address::1/l::7400+Franklin+St:Buena+Park:CA:90621-1813:US:33.87681:-118.003959:address:Orange+County:1/l:Trader+Joe%27s:8611+Santa+Monica+Blvd:West+Holly wood:CA:90069:US:34.088015:-118.379144:address::1/l::800+N+Edinburgh+Ave:Los+Angeles:CA:90046-6904:US:34.08548:-118.363769:address:Los+Angeles+County:1/l:::Corona:CA::US:33.875301:-117.565598:city:Riverside+County:1/m::5:33.403653:-117.773427:0:::::::::/io:1:::::f:EN:M:/e

BBM

Just guessing but would this be the L'Auberge Del Mar hotel where he was seen leaving with the suitcase?.

"Both suspects were seen entering her Mercedes at the San Diego Hilton at 2:30 AM on the morning of August 14.

She was never seen again.

Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving another hotel at 9:20 AM.

The next time he was seen on video, was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/cops-jasmines-mercedes-had-blood-splatters/2#comments#ixzz0PRTwuPKI

[Paladine]

If he killed her or removed her fingers and teeth in the rural area of Corona why not dump her body there?

The body seems to be less likely to be found in the desert rather than in a city trash can


Also TMZ quotes LE as saying her suitcase might be in Corona. Which suitcase was her body in? Which suitcase was in Washington?

Yeah...if she was dead why not leave her in the woods...why keep a dead body in the car and search a busy city for a dumpster? TMZ said the suitcase he was carrying out of the hotel was in WA...

And the teeth may have been removed with pliers? Ryan wouldn't have had pliers in the mercedes, ya think? Would Ryan even know how to use pliers? ;)
Cause they seem to be saying he dumped her body immediately on return to the city...he had to have them in the car...?

[jilly]

I think he put her in the back and mutilated her in the back seat.

While she was unconcious? :eek: I'm just thinking about the non bleeding aspect when your heart stops beating.
Hope this isn't a stupid question!

[Normcar21]

I always did find it very hard to believe he carried her out of the hotel in the suitcase BUT! how does LE know they found that same exact one seen on the video? Most ppl have a set & if it really wasnt that one she was dumped in what one was it & where did it come from?

The idea of the murder in the hotel is perhaps completely over, since a whole lot of blood was found in the mercedes, most in the back seat area, which follows the idea of murder in the car and tossing her body into the back seat temporarily.

[Paladine]

Motive perhaps should be considered. Who else on the face of this earth had a motive to kill Jasmine?

Ryan had a a SERIOUS argument with her that night, witnesses saw it and have reported it, she insulted him in public and texted her bf in the bathroom for the majority of the evening which pissed Ryan off enough for him to shout out, "Who were you talking to?"

Then they left, with each other, still pissed off at each other...that's about as dysfunctional as it gets, and is also...motive (take your pick for whom)


That's the problem...I don't know who might have. But because he did have a fight with her on Friday at 2 am doesn't automatically mean to me he killed her the next day between 11 and 2...seems they fought alot...he never killed her before...but there's always a first...forensics should help...

[Normcar21]

BBM

Just guessing but would this be the L'Auberge Del Mar hotel where he was seen leaving with the suitcase?.

"Both suspects were seen entering her Mercedes at the San Diego Hilton at 2:30 AM on the morning of August 14.

She was never seen again.

Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving another hotel at 9:20 AM.

The next time he was seen on video, was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/cops-jasmines-mercedes-had-blood-splatters/2#comments#ixzz0PRTwuPKI

My greatest desire with this crime would be to know the following:

How many hotels and clubs are included?
A timeline of visits to each hotel and club?
What hotel is being referred to with Jenkins leaving holding the suitcases?
And, above and beyond ALL of the above...what time was that surveillance video of him leaving with the suitcases

[Normcar21]

That's the problem...I don't know who might have. But because he did have a fight with her on Friday at 2 am doesn't automatically mean to me he killed her the next day between 11 and 2...seems they fought alot...he never killed her before...but there's always a first...forensics should help...

I in no way belive that Jenkins would have the ability to kill anyone unless he was both drunk and extremely motivated by anger and loss of control, and that could only have happened after both of them left the poker party, following Jasmine's insult to him in public and her continuous chat with her ex boyfriend in the bathroom.

Both of them had come to an "apex" of complaint. She gave him one more chance to rekindle the love that he wanted and he apparently blew it because she wanted to get back to vegas to see her ex, and he was extremely bugged by that failure on his part, which caused him to be extremely uncontrolled and potentially violent, imo

[amysmom]

That would help me believe...if they have his hair...not a few, 'cause he was likely in the car alot...but lots...handfuls...

I listened again & LE seem sure the hair was PULLED out during a struggle so it must be more like handfuls..They should have some idea from the length?

[Paladine]

Have an idea...wonder how they came up with Corona....

Could they be going by estimated time of death and figure she died between 11 and 2, say 12, and going backwards in time, like estimating they would have been around Corona on thier way home at the estimated time of death...?

[enzeder]

My greatest desire with this crime would be to know the following:

How many hotels and clubs are included?
A timeline of visits to each hotel and club?
What hotel is being referred to with Jenkins leaving holding the suitcases?
And, above and beyond ALL of the above...what time was that surveillance video of him leaving with the suitcases

Just checked TMZ again and see they've updated to include L'Auberge Del Mar.

"Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving the L'Auberge Del Mar -- the hotel where they were staying at in San Diego -- at 9:20 AM. The next time he was seen on video was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles."

http://www.tmz.com/

E.T.A. I see that TMZ has also made a correction from this: "Jenkins suitcase, the one he left the La Barge hotel was found in a storage facility in Washington state."

To this: "Jenkins suitcase -- the one he left the L'Auberge with -- was found in a storage facility in Washington state."

http://www.tmz.com/

[JBean]

Okay in thinking about it, Buena Park now makes perfect sense. 91 is the gateway back to the OC and then up to LA county. So one he was done in Corona, the 91 would take him by Buena Park where he stopped and then jumped on the 5 to LA>It is practically a straight shot from Corona to buena park.

[racerzeke]

I think the new details make the dumping of the suitcase in Buena Park more strange. I hope they release how they knew he was in Buena Park the on Saturday night.

I mean if they have solid information that the mutilation and or murder took place in Corona it would seem not that far fetched that he could have dumped her in the off road place that he possibly dumped the fingers and teeth also?

And not that in San Diego it wasnt strange either it would be incredibly hard to tell that there was a dumpster but who is to say he was looking for that. He went through so much for her not to be ID'd or found but he certainly would not have dumped the bare suitcase in an alleyway surrounded by apartments?

[JBean]

I think the new details make the dumping of the suitcase in Buena Park more strange. I hope they release how they knew he was in Buena Park the on Saturday night.

I mean if they have solid information that the mutilation and or murder took place in Corona it would seem not that far fetched that he could have dumped her in the off road place that he possibly dumped the fingers and teeth also?

And not that in San Diego it wasnt strange either it would be incredibly hard to tell that there was a dumpster but who is to say he was looking for that. He went through so much for her not to be ID'd or found but he certainly would not have dumped the bare suitcase in an alleyway surrounded by apartments?
The property manager seemed to think that he knew the building. For some reason he thought getting her to a dumpster would be better than leaving her offroad. Maybe he was at a hotel in Corona and did not want to be tied to that area.
Buena Park didn't tie him to LA, Corona,or San Diego.

[Capri]

ok, toss this around, and indulge me a bit. They were always volatile & fighting. They leave the HIlton at 2:30. What if she got ticked, and told him to get out of the car, ,but close to hotel #2, he went to hotel #2 alone & then eventually sweet talked her into coming back and picking him up, leaving at 9:20. I don't know where she'd have gone for that many hours in San Diego, but knowing her/his usual fight/make up/fight make up routine, could be possible. Then it started all over again, on the way home, and he took it all out on her.

???

[JBean]

While she was unconcious? :eek: I'm just thinking about the non bleeding aspect when your heart stops beating.
Hope this isn't a stupid question!

He mutilated her post mortem. There is still plenty of blood to drain out.

[racerzeke]

Cardosi lives near SD I believe.

Anyone think there could be more hotels involved as he would had to have driven for nearly a day straight to get to Nevada, Washington, etc.? Also 'he' dumped the body in the AMs so he would be up for nearly 2 days straight.

Not saying it isnt possible just throwing it out there

[Paladine]

I'm just waiting for the Jenkin Family response. I'm happy the Family has money and seem to want to know the truth...maybe they'll investigate a bit, too...

[amysmom]

"Later that morning, Jenkins was seen leaving the L'Auberge Del Mar -- the hotel where they were staying at in San Diego -- at 9:20 AM. The next time he was seen on video was at 5 PM at his residence in Los Angeles.


Is this Fri or Sat at 5PM? :confused:

[Paladine]

ok, toss this around, and indulge me a bit. They were always volatile & fighting. They leave the HIlton at 2:30. What if she got ticked, and told him to get out of the car, ,but close to hotel #2, he went to hotel #2 alone & then eventually sweet talked her into coming back and picking him up, leaving at 9:20. I don't know where she'd have gone for that many hours in San Diego, but knowing her/his usual fight/make up/fight make up routine, could be possible. Then it started all over again, on the way home, and he took it all out on her.

???

Cardozi lives around the corner in Chula-whatever...;) But he doesn't seem to have said he saw her...

[Capri]

Motive perhaps should be considered. Who else on the face of this earth had a motive to kill Jasmine?

Ryan had a a SERIOUS argument with her that night, witnesses saw it and have reported it, she insulted him in public and texted her bf in the bathroom for the majority of the evening which pissed Ryan off enough for him to shout out, "Who were you talking to?"

Then they left, with each other, still pissed off at each other...that's about as dysfunctional as it gets, and is also...motive (take your pick for whom), and then the "suck it" text message on "her" cellphone 15 minutes after both of them left the party.

Hey, what time what that suck it text sent. I know Robert said the last text actually sent by her was 1:45, but suck it was later. He'd have to have her cell phone at that point to send it.

[impatientredhead]

TY! TMZ failed to mention the hair found on floor of car..Pulled during struggle according to LE..Not sure yet if his or hers..I hope it turns out to be his & we also find out he had numerous & serious (defensive) injuries which was hinted at by RCMP on Nancy IIRC..It will make me feel a tad bit better to know she put up one hell of a fight!

How did he go to the sheriff's department, report a woman missing, hours after a body of an unidentified woman was found in a dumpster, with serious defensive wounds and what would have to be serious bruising on his hands and no one thought anything of it?

I am more confused than ever.

[amysmom]

He mutilated her post mortem. There is still plenty of blood to drain out.

Nancy asked ME how they would know if post mortem (or not) & he said very little blood=already dead (pm) so when I heard so much was in car it made me think broken nose/beating.

[racerzeke]

He should have been questioned at the Sherriffs station I dont know if they can do that though? By that time I even believe they may have already ID'd her?

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?

[Paladine]

Cardosi lives near SD I believe.

Anyone think there could be more hotels involved as he would had to have driven for nearly a day straight to get to Nevada, Washington, etc.? Also 'he' dumped the body in the AMs so he would be up for nearly 2 days straight.

Not saying it isnt possible just throwing it out there


I don't think there are more hotels cause the whole thing sounds strange...none of this fits...I gotta get to bed...this is too depressing...

[Bathbuddys]

So, they are saying he assaulted her on the drive home on Friday between 11 and 2? Then where was she when he left the hotel? I thought the fact she wasn't around was 'proof' he killed her the night before?

I must be missing something or stupider than I thought...;)

A witness saw Ryan in Toronto, too...even the Police thought it was him...did the witness know him, speak to him?...video would sure be nice, imo...

So, the car could be the crime scene...or maybe not...?

And how did they come up with Corona?

More questions than answers...




Edited to add...and how does no one notice a Man beating a Woman in a car on a highway, so violently, mid-day on a Friday, that the white Mercedes goes off the road and NO ONE see's it? I've been in cars that went off the road...not easy to get them back on the road without a push or rope/tow...not sure about that...



I grew up in Home Gardens which is also part of Corona. I wish I could tell you that as a teenager, we went off the road A LOT! as it is VERY dark out there and if you aren't from there, the roads can be hectic turns at times.
It is the perfect place to not be seen if you don't want to be. There are a lot of orange groves and inudstry depending on where in Corona you are. Also there are lakes off the side of the freeway etc.
There was a lot of this type of thing there. I am soooo glad my parents got us out of there.....

[enzeder]

Is this Fri or Sat at 5PM? :confused:

The way I read it is Friday August 14.

[impatientredhead]

I think he put her in the back and mutilated her in the back seat.

So are you thinking a brawl of a fight in the car right after leaving the bar. He calms down and throws her in the backseat, alive but seriously injured, she dies in the backseat, possibly while he is collecting the items at the hotel. He comes back to the vehicle and comes up with this plan to make the body unidentifiable? Followed by a missing person report filed only after he realizes the body was found?

[Paladine]

He should have been questioned at the Sherriffs station I dont know if they can do that though? By that time I even believe they may have already ID'd her?

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?


I read he walked in to a sub-station...via JBean...somewhere...not sure about a call...

[impatientredhead]

He should have been questioned at the Sherriffs station I dont know if they can do that though? By that time I even believe they may have already ID'd her?

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?

She wasn't IDed yet, but if you show up at the police station to file a police report on your missing spouse and are covered in defensive wounds you would think an astute detective could keep you talking under the premise of making the missing person's report as complete as possible... while another detective runs background on you.

[amysmom]

How did he go to the sheriff's department, report a woman missing, hours after a body of an unidentified woman was found in a dumpster, with serious defensive wounds and what would have to be serious bruising on his hands and no one thought anything of it?

I am more confused than ever.

Very good Q! :waitasec:

[Paladine]

I grew up in Home Gardens which is also part of Corona. I wish I could tell you that as a teenager, we went off the road A LOT! as it is VERY dark out there and if you aren't from there, the roads can be hectic turns at times.
It is the perfect place to not be seen if you don't want to be. There are a lot of orange groves and inudstry depending on where in Corona you are. Also there are lakes off the side of the freeway etc.
There was a lot of this type of thing there. I am soooo glad my parents got us out of there.....

Thank you! So why take a dead body from isolation and lakes to drop it at an apartment complex which necessitates a long city drive?

It doesn't make sense, to me.

[Paladine]

How did he go to the sheriff's department, report a woman missing, hours after a body of an unidentified woman was found in a dumpster, with serious defensive wounds and what would have to be serious bruising on his hands and no one thought anything of it?

I am more confused than ever.

Wow! No sleep after that comment! SO bang on...a big struggle and no obvious wounds??? With a woman with nails like hers???

:clap:

[scandi]

I always did find it very hard to believe he carried her out of the hotel in the suitcase BUT! how does LE know they found that same exact one seen on the video? Most ppl have a set & if it really wasnt that one she was dumped in what one was it & where did it come from?

They said the suitcase he carried out matched the one she was found in. And they had luggage, and wasn't the rest of it found in a storage facility in Wa? They must have found a slip to that storage unit, or key, in his hotel room of death or his car in Blaine. IMO

It does make a lot of sense to me the way they have put this timeline together. He wasn't rational for one thing, which is why he probably drove all over the place. Like why did he drive out Corona way where he spun out off the road?

I think he did like Bean said, fought with her in the car, he popped her and knocked her out, put her in the back seat where he strangled her, cut off her fingers which bled as she was still warm, dragged her body outside the car and stripped her using her clothing later to try to wipe down the car as the clothing was said to be bloody that was in the trunk, got her suitcase out of the trunk, dumping contents in trunk, started stuffing her in bag and as afterthought went back to trunk and got plyers pulling her teeth in area where bag was sitting, and threw bag with her in it into trunk.

He could have done all that inside the car, no one would notice due to the blackened windows. A lonely stretch of road, maybe reported to CHIP but by then he was out of there and on his way to Buena Park.


I have to go read that TMZ report again. ;}

[Paladine]

She wasn't IDed yet, but if you show up at the police station to file a police report on your missing spouse and are covered in defensive wounds you would think an astute detective could keep you talking under the premise of making the missing person's report as complete as possible... while another detective runs background on you.

They should have cameras at the cop shop...Ryans Family should get the video...have it analysed...

[Capri]

Wow! No sleep after that comment! SO bang on...a big struggle and no obvious wounds??? With a woman with nails like hers???
:clap:

Yeah, funny thing, he told the police she went out to do errands, and "get her nails done." A bit ironic since her nails were no longer attached to her hands (or her fingers to her hands).

[jilly]

Nancy asked ME how they would know if post mortem (or not) & he said very little blood=already dead (pm) so when I heard so much was in car it made me think broken nose/beating.

Me too. I can personally attest to that!

[Capri]

Gotta get some sleep. JBean, feel free to edit down any of the TMZ posts, for copywright purposes. I shortened them a little, but hated to do too much with all the info. But if we need to, go right ahead.....

G'night all :)

[enzeder]

He should have been questioned at the Sherriffs station I dont know if they can do that though? By that time I even believe they may have already ID'd her?

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?

Hope this helps.

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

"Buena Park Police Department spokesman Lieut. Gary Worrall said police were called Saturday morning when someone thought they had found a child's body in a dumpster behind an apartment building."
...
"Police say the case took a turn when she was reported missing later that day, allegedly by Mr. Jenkins.

He reports her missing Saturday evening and we attempted to contact him to further our investigation, and he's been ducking our calls. It's kind of suspicious," said Lieut. Worrall."

http://www.chtv.com/ch/chcanews/story.html?id=1906506

[Earthling]

Have an idea...wonder how they came up with Corona....

Could they be going by estimated time of death and figure she died between 11 and 2, say 12, and going backwards in time, like estimating they would have been around Corona on thier way home at the estimated time of death...?

I think it may have something to do with the radio report I heard while driving home one night. It was an unusual report - that's why I remember it.

Police/CHP - whoever were on the side of the freeway (probably causing a big looky-loo slowdown in traffic) investigating a report of tire tracks leading off the road and were looking for a car.

I think it was on KFI, which I normally listen to -- or possibly KNX 1070.

I also wonder if there is video of the car crossing the border checkpoint on
the 15.

Earthling

[amysmom]

The way I read it is Friday August 14.

Seen at 5p Friday at his apt & she is found at 7a Sat (dead only few hrs) & now even more doesnt add up!

[JBean]

Cardozi lives around the corner in Chula-whatever...;) But he doesn't seem to have said he saw her...Chula Vista. But then again, the cops raided Cardosi's home that next Saturday at 6 am. so maybe there is something els we don't know. Sems like we would have heard by now, but they aren't telling us a lot of things about Cardosi and the letters.

[JBean]

Seen at 5p Friday at his apt & she is found at 7a Sat (dead only few hrs) & now even more doesnt add up!They have now said she was killed sometime between 11am and 2pm on Friday. So the original reports about being dead a few hours are bad reporting or something. This helps the time line in some ways but messes it up in others.

[JBean]

I think it may have something to do with the radio report I heard while driving home one night. It was an unusual report - that's why I remember it.

Police/CHP - whoever were on the side of the freeway (probably causing a big looky-loo slowdown in traffic) investigating a report of tire tracks leading off the road and were looking for a car.

I think it was on KFI, which I normally listen to -- or possibly KNX 1070.

I also wonder if there is video of the car crossing the border checkpoint on
the 15.

Earthlingyou know I listen to KFI all day long in the car and at work. This is sounding vaguely familiar to me. I'll go google.

[enzeder]

He should have been questioned at the Sherriffs station I dont know if they can do that though? By that time I even believe they may have already ID'd her?

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?

I also have a vague recollection that RJ showed LE a photo of Jasmine with blonde hair when he reported her missing?. Does anyone else remember that?.

August 20, 2009

"L.A. police did not immediately link her with a missing-persons file, because the body was that of a brunette."

Google Cache
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:xMF6tUC350QJ:www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html%3Fid%3D1912287%26sponsor%3D+%22ry an+jenkins%22%2Bpolice%2Bbrunette&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk

[scandi]

Cardosi lives near SD I believe.

Anyone think there could be more hotels involved as he would had to have driven for nearly a day straight to get to Nevada, Washington, etc.? Also 'he' dumped the body in the AMs so he would be up for nearly 2 days straight.

Not saying it isnt possible just throwing it out there

Hi there, He had to be looking and feeling good enough to go into the OCSO office to report her missing at 9 on Sat eve so he must have had some sleep after he dumped her which was when he was seen in the afternoon in BP on Fri, right?. He might have been nervous about any blood he brought into the apt by transfer as he had to be pretty dirty after that bloody fore. He would have taken a shower and maybe worried they would get inquisitive if something odd caught their eye.

Didn't LE come out on Tues saying he was a person of interest? Until then he was said to be cooperating and thought I read he was even questioned further by LE. Not sure if that is accurate but did read it. Our first post on the case is the 18th I believe with a link.

When he heard that first news report I bet it sent chills down his spine, that she had been found and ID'ed, way before he expected she would. And then he decided to head north on Tues or whatever day that report was public, went and picked up his boat and headed for Seattle where he met his mom. etc. IMO

[JBean]

Is this Fri or Sat at 5PM? :confused:Friday.

[scandi]

Very good Q! :waitasec:

That might work on our precious CSI shows but in real life, well I don't always think a duty officer would start trying to put the puzzle together on the spot.

Remember too he had all her make up and could have covered up anything visible. Maybe. ;}

[Paladine]

Detectives also found blood stains on the patio of their room at the luxury boutique hotel, L'Auberge Del Mar and mud stains, weeds and twigs on the undercarriage of Fiore's car, Powell said.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABLAI00

[scandi]

I think it may have something to do with the radio report I heard while driving home one night. It was an unusual report - that's why I remember it.

Police/CHP - whoever were on the side of the freeway (probably causing a big looky-loo slowdown in traffic) investigating a report of tire tracks leading off the road and were looking for a car.

I think it was on KFI, which I normally listen to -- or possibly KNX 1070.

I also wonder if there is video of the car crossing the border checkpoint on
the 15.

Earthling]]


That is really helpful Earthling. What is the border check point you are talking about?

[JBean]

So are you thinking a brawl of a fight in the car right after leaving the bar. He calms down and throws her in the backseat, alive but seriously injured, she dies in the backseat, possibly while he is collecting the items at the hotel. He comes back to the vehicle and comes up with this plan to make the body unidentifiable? Followed by a missing person report filed only after he realizes the body was found?

Okay here are my thoughts.
They leave the Ivy or wherever at 2;30 am. they get into a fight and maybe they argue for a long time. maybe she tells him about cardosi. He ends up beating her up pretty good in the front seat, busts her nose and throws her in the back seat where she is out cold. Maybe the sun is coming up by this time. He goes back to the Del Mar hotel location goes inside collects their gear is caught on video at about 9;20 am leaving.
He heads up the 15 to the inland empire. The 91 goes back to the beach cities and LA so he stops in Corona because it is where the 15 and the 91 come together. Maybe drives around for awhile to find a place to put her and to figure out what to do. She comes to or maybe not, but he strangles her to finish it. Cuts her up and ditches everything in this remote location he has found in Corona. By this time it is after 11 am.
Drives up the 91 to Buena Park puts her in the dumpster. Jumps back on the 5 and drives to W H-wood. He has all his stuff in the car to change his clothes and clean upmost likely.
Drops the car at TJ's and walks home to the apt.

Hears the report about the body on the news after 6pm on Saturday and finally gets himself to go to the substation to report her missing at 9 pm.

I guess this should go on the theory thread LOL.

[racerzeke]

He dumps her body at around 11am? As in the daylight? No way do I believe he drives that flashy Mercedes and dumps the bloody suitcase into the dumpster where there are a lot of people out and about and gets away until her body was found.

It's definitely not cool and it would be hard to imagine that no one noticed the smell all day or night.

I know the time of her death may have changed but could he really have dumped her in daylight?

[Gypsy Road]

These new details just leave me with more questions. He sure did cover a lot of territory between the time they were last seen together from when the time he crossed over into the Canadian border! Adrenaline would surely make it possible for him to do that however IMO. I still believe it was Jenkins who killed her, but sure would like to know all the details. Most of us thought he killed her in the wee hours of the morning, but now they are saying between 11 am and 2 PM? Makes me wonder if he beat her the night before and she lay unconscious for hours before she eventually died? And when did he decide to remove her fingers and teeth? Did he decide upon it while she was laying unconscious, or did he just decide "spur of the moment" upon her death? He beat her and then he strangled her to finish her off?? I don't know...just trying to grasp all this! It's hard for me to fathom that he beat her so badly, left her for dead and mutilated her body like that!!

[JBean]

]]


That is really helpful Earthling. What is the border check point you are talking about?
There are border checks even after you are into CA. There is one by me in San Clemente off the 5 and one over in Temecula (I think) off the 15. They just watch the northbound traffic and are a pain in the a when they are checking cars. they basically just wave you through unless you look like you are smuggling drugs or mexicans lol.

[scandi]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABLAI00

Paladin, Thanks for the link.

I don't think he was seen after Sat night when he filed that missing reporto in person. I just read a link here I have temporarily lost :confused: saying the police found it suspicious he wouldn't return their calls after he reported her missing.

It could be he had already left the area after reporting her. His duty was done with that. Now to get the heck out of Dodge and back home to Canada where he would be protected by the law as he may have thought.

From Sat at 9 pm there is no sighting of him until he met with his Mom in Seattle I think.

[scandi]

Okay here are my thoughts.
They leave the Ivy or wherever at 2;30 am. they get into a fight and maybe they argue for a long time. maybe she tells him about cardosi. He ends up beating her up pretty good in the front seat, busts her nose and throws her in the back seat where she is out cold. Maybe the sun is coming up by this time. He goes back to the Del Mar hotel location goes inside collects their gear is caught on video at about 9;20 am leaving.
He heads up the 15 to the inland empire. The 91 goes back to the beach cities and LA so he stops in Corona because it is where the 15 and the 91 come together. Maybe drives around for awhile to find a place to put her and to figure out what to do. She comes to or maybe not, but he strangles her to finish it. Cuts her up and ditches everything in this remote location he has found in Corona. By this time it is after 11 am.
Drives up the 91 to Buena Park puts her in the dumpster. Jumps back on the 5 and drives to W H-wood. He has all his stuff in the car to change his clothes and clean upmost likely.
Drops the car at TJ's and walks home to the apt.

Hears the report about the body on the news after 6pm on Saturday and finally gets himself to go to the substation to report her missing at 9 pm.

I guess this should go on the theory thread LOL.

Yeppers Bean and I think it is a 'keeper'.

[amysmom]

Okay here are my thoughts.

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I just read your thoughts again in Timeline thread--08-23-2009--Post #23

SCARY! :)

He drives up north in her car perhaps home perhaps not. She is not missing yet, so there is nothing suspicious about this. He most likely takes her to a remote location between SD and LA and strangles her and mutilates her. he then dumps her in Buena Park. Wherever he leaves her car he is able to get back to his home undetected

[JBean]

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I just read your thoughts again in Timeline thread--08-23-2009--Post #23

SCARY! :)

He drives up north in her car perhaps home perhaps not. She is not missing yet, so there is nothing suspicious about this. He most likely takes her to a remote location between SD and LA and strangles her and mutilates her. he then dumps her in Buena Park. Wherever he leaves her car he is able to get back to his home undetected
Hey ! I am going to stop thinking now.

[scandi]

We should be thankful. Seldom have I ever seen a presser give out so much information. WOW Usually it is over and we're still beggin'.

[Paladine]

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I just read your thoughts again in Timeline thread--08-23-2009--Post #23

SCARY! :)

He drives up north in her car perhaps home perhaps not. She is not missing yet, so there is nothing suspicious about this. He most likely takes her to a remote location between SD and LA and strangles her and mutilates her. he then dumps her in Buena Park. Wherever he leaves her car he is able to get back to his home undetected


But I just posted a link on the media thread they found blood on the patio at L'Auberge Del Mar (whose blood?)...and they also said, link posted, that they think he put her in the suitcase at the hotel (AP)...:confused: so the fight in the car must of been when? On the way home from the bar fight...? But she must of lived cause he wouldn't drag a dead body INTO the hotel, you'd think...and Jasmine seemed fiesty from my gleaning of friends reports...don't think she'd take a nose broken or physical beating and then walk into a hotel room with him...and...yet, they said 11-2 pm near Corona...?? I feel like I'm playing Clue...

[amysmom]

Also I heard he called in the report or did he do both?

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Hours after Fiore's body was found, Jenkins walked into a West Hollywood sheriff's station and reported her missing, said Steve Whitmore, spokesman for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. He told a deputy his wife had gone missing after running errands and that he hadn't seen her since Friday night.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABLAI00

[JBean]

We should be thankful. Seldom have I ever seen a presser give out so much information. WOW Usually it is over and we're still beggin'.
I want to see the letters!

Also, it just occurred to me that didn't someone say in the presser that he may have assaulted her "again" or assaulted her "further"? That would hold with the beating her first and strangling her later.

[amysmom]

But I just posted a link on the media thread they found blood on the patio at L'Auberge Del Mar...and they also said, link posted, that they think he put her in the suitcase at the hotel (AP)...:confused: so the fight in the car must of been when? On the way home from the bar fight...? But she must of lived cause he wouldn't drag a dead body INTO the hotel, you'd think...Yet, they said 11-2 pm near Corona...?? I feel like I'm playing Clue...

I just saw that about the patio..Funny, no mention of seeing them come back late that nite just him leaving in the am..??? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

ETA..LE knew about patio for some time? From 8/23/09:

The Associated Press reports that police have visited the hotel twice looking for evidence. Michael Slosser, vice president and managing director of L'Auberge Del Mar, said about the murder, "It's very unlikely that it happened here. I can't talk about the specifics."

http://www.myfoxillinois.com/dpp/new...082109_3091478

[racerzeke]

When did her mother report her missing? She was the other one who reported her missing, correct?

[JBean]

When did her mother report her missing? She was the other one who reported her missing, correct?

yes she did ,good question. I'll see if I can find it.

[Paladine]

I just saw that about the patio..Funny, no mention of seeing them come back late that nite just him leaving in the am..??? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

I want to know whose blood...and on the patio...where...the railing...? Was there a fight? Bloody hands? He came back...she didn't...? So confusing, my hope is the Jenkins hire some PI...better to have 2 sides, imo...pushes each to be truthful...get challenged...

[amysmom]

I want to know whose blood...and on the patio...where...the railing...? Was there a fight? Bloody hands? He came back...she didn't...? So confusing, my hope is the Jenkins hire some PI...better to have 2 sides, imo...pushes each to be truthful...get challenged...

LE should know whose blood by now since they were there for evidence on or before 8/23..Manager of hotel claims someone would have heard loud noise from that room & nobody did so bloody hands?

[amysmom]

Say what?? Oy!!!!!!!!!

Kohanek, the police spokesman, said Thursday he believed the two remarried sometime between the annulment and Fiore's slaying.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABLAI00

[amysmom]

Buena Park police said Thursday there was a violent struggle in slain swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore's Mercedes-Benz, which authorities recovered in a West Hollywood parking lot.

But investigators said they don't know whether she was killed in the car, a San Diego hotel room or somewhere else. Her body was put into a suitcase, and police believe it was dumped in a Buena Park trash bin on Aug. 14.

But then end with this: (wth!)

Investigators said that it appeared Jenkins had placed Fiore in the suitcase in their room there.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-model-murder28-2009aug28,0,4654293.story

[KAE]

I wonder if they were able to get any info from the car's GPS .

This might be useful

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/#/servPrtsOwnersManuals/

I downloaded the 2007 CL manual but really don't have the time to study it - esp. the GPS stuff.

Let me Know if I got the wrong year/model.

[Paladine]

Buena Park police said Thursday there was a violent struggle in slain swimsuit model Jasmine Fiore's Mercedes-Benz, which authorities recovered in a West Hollywood parking lot.

But investigators said they don't know whether she was killed in the car, a San Diego hotel room or somewhere else. Her body was put into a suitcase, and police believe it was dumped in a Buena Park trash bin on Aug. 14.

But then end with this: (wth!)

Investigators said that it appeared Jenkins had placed Fiore in the suitcase in their room there.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-model-murder28-2009aug28,0,4654293.story

Yet, I thought they said the reason they went off road was because of a fight, a struggle...? Anyone else recall that? I guess they are trying to account for the patio blood. Sure would like to know whose blood, did they confirm whose blood?...was DNA done...?

[Paladine]

Say what?? Oy!!!!!!!!!

Kohanek, the police spokesman, said Thursday he believed the two remarried sometime between the annulment and Fiore's slaying.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABLAI00

:eek: From what evidence? When...? Where...?

[JBean]

Yet, I thought they said the reason they went off road was because of a fight, a struggle...? Anyone else recall that? I guess they are trying to account for the patio blood. Sure would like to know whose blood, did they confirm whose blood?...was DNA done...?.

My only thought is that maybe he was able to go out a balcony and bring her in through a patio slider? he would have had to go in alone and then go get her in the car and maybe he placed her on the patio..put her in the suitcase and carried her out the next day.

[Capri]

When did her mother report her missing? She was the other one who reported her missing, correct?

Early on, there was a roomate, Christina mentioned several times. I never quite understood whose roomate. Hers, his, or both, but that was before I knew they had separate apts. I'm vaguely thinking (not anything certain) it was mom Lisa and Christine who worried about her missing, but I'd have to go look that up.

Edited to add:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-model-murder20-2009aug20,0,6362814.story

Mentions neighbor saying the 3 of them were roomates at the 800 block Edinburgh address.

The neighbor said that when she moved into her apartment about a month ago, Fiore and her female roommate left a note on her door:

"Welcome to the building. We are your neighbors in___," the note read. "If you need anything, give us a ring! Or if we are too loud, call us and tell us to shut up."

[impatientredhead]

But I just posted a link on the media thread they found blood on the patio at L'Auberge Del Mar (whose blood?)...and they also said, link posted, that they think he put her in the suitcase at the hotel (AP)...:confused: so the fight in the car must of been when? On the way home from the bar fight...? But she must of lived cause he wouldn't drag a dead body INTO the hotel, you'd think...and Jasmine seemed fiesty from my gleaning of friends reports...don't think she'd take a nose broken or physical beating and then walk into a hotel room with him...and...yet, they said 11-2 pm near Corona...?? I feel like I'm playing Clue...

I thought the patio blood was at their apartment? The last place he is captured on video? I assumed if it is the apt patio he went their after disposing of the body and transferred blood from his clothes etc....

[amysmom]

Finally!! It is ALL coming together! Much more at link.

Police said they believe Fiore was severely beaten in the car after the poker tournament and Jenkins brought her into their first-floor hotel room through a private patio entrance that fronted a parking lot. They believe that Jenkins then put Fiore in the suitcase and took it to Fiore's car through the same entrance.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABP2L02

[amysmom]

I thought the patio blood was at their apartment? The last place he is captured on video? I assumed if it is the apt patio he went their after disposing of the body and transferred blood from his clothes etc....

It was the hotel patio but I am sure some was also found at the apt..Read post above.

[JBean]

.

My only thought is that maybe he was able to go out a balcony and bring her in through a patio slider? he would have had to go in alone and then go get her in the car and maybe he placed her on the patio..put her in the suitcase and carried her out the next day.

Finally!! It is ALL coming together! Much more at link.

Police said they believe Fiore was severely beaten in the car after the poker tournament and Jenkins brought her into their first-floor hotel room through a private patio entrance that fronted a parking lot. They believe that Jenkins then put Fiore in the suitcase and took it to Fiore's car through the same entrance.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jh9MXUrDOqTD3P6uA4nf-Gj32kZQD9ABP2L02
Hey I got it!

[KR2tonenow]

They have now said she was killed sometime between 11am and 2pm on Friday. So the original reports about being dead a few hours are bad reporting or something. This helps the time line in some ways but messes it up in others.

How is that possible, why would Jenkins beat her near death and bring Fiore through the patio hotel room and risk more blood evidence, then drag her back into the car, be seen leaving the hotel at 9:30am and then pull off the road at decide to strangle and dis-member her?

Maybe as an after thought, (if this beating gets out it will ruin his career, etc.), then he tries to frame Cardosi because Jenkins is thinking Cardosi is the reason he flew in to a rage anyway. Like Jenkins father saying he wouldn't commit a rage killing like that, Jenkins was going to cover it up and frame Cardosi recently released from jail.

That would justify the killing being placed between 11am and 2pm.

[Paladine]

How is that possible, why would Jenkins beat her near death and bring Fiore through the patio hotel room and risk more blood evidence, then drag her back into the car, be seen leaving the hotel at 9:30am and then pull off the road at decide to strangle and dis-member her?

Maybe as an after thought, (if this beating gets out it will ruin his career, etc.), then he tries to frame Cardosi because Jenkins is thinking Cardosi is the reason he flew in to a rage anyway. Like Jenkins father saying he wouldn't commit a rage killing like that, Jenkins was going to cover it up and frame Cardosi recently released from jail.

That would justify the killing being placed between 11am and 2pm.

Thing is...they are also saying he put her in the suitcase at the hotel before 9:20, now...dragged a dead body into the hotel so he could take her out, again...I dunno...she can't die twice. See...if she was in the suitcase Fri am....all that blood, hair, signs of a struggle...must have been in the car on Fri AM...all that cover-up yet he didn't throughly clean the car...? Casey A did better!

[Paladine]

oh...and I see no signs of trying to frame Cardozi...Cardozi lives in Chula Vista (I remembered!! ;) ) He should of dumped the other way...am I missing something?

[Paladine]

I've read reports describing the blood in car like "fingerpainting" a "vicious" struggle...now, you think he'd drive all the way from SanDiego with that? Wouldn't that be the first thing one would clean...I dunno...:help:

[Paladine]

I'm not saying Ryan Jenkins didn't kill Jasmine. He very may well have. I'm just not sure it happened like we are being told.

[Paladine]

How is that possible, why would Jenkins beat her near death and bring Fiore through the patio hotel room and risk more blood evidence, then drag her back into the car, be seen leaving the hotel at 9:30am and then pull off the road at decide to strangle and dis-member her?

Maybe as an after thought, (if this beating gets out it will ruin his career, etc.), then he tries to frame Cardosi because Jenkins is thinking Cardosi is the reason he flew in to a rage anyway. Like Jenkins father saying he wouldn't commit a rage killing like that, Jenkins was going to cover it up and frame Cardosi recently released from jail.

That would justify the killing being placed between 11am and 2pm.

I thought the patio blood was at their apartment? The last place he is captured on video? I assumed if it is the apt patio he went their after disposing of the body and transferred blood from his clothes etc....

The patio blood is at the L'Auberge Del Mar...a 1st floor patio with doors...the blood was there..a 'stain' I read...no info on dna testing or whose blood it is...I have seen no confirmation of blood at the apartment...maybe I missed it, anyone know a link? They say he carried her in and put her in a suitcase...then carried her back out...no video cameras saw any of this...and she was not in the suitcase he carried through the lobby that morning...another red herring...
Funny...he carried her in the room yet the only blood found was outside on the patio...anyone see a link with blood inside the hotel room?

[amysmom]

Thing is...they are also saying he put her in the suitcase at the hotel before 9:20, now...dragged a dead body into the hotel so he could take her out, again...I dunno...she can't die twice. See...if she was in the suitcase Fri am....all that blood, hair, signs of a struggle...must have been in the car on Fri AM...all that cover-up yet he didn't throughly clean the car...? Casey A did better!

Very risky to take her out of car at hotel unless she wasnt dead yet & he didnt want her waking up (from beating) in the parking lot?..I guess this would mean he strangled her in the room? May not have decided to alter her identity until ride back to LA..That would explain the erratic driving pattern..I dont see too much of a cover-up mostly cos of where he left the car..It is like he wanted it to be found & proven to be the murder scene..SODDI?

[amysmom]

The patio blood is at the L'Auberge Del Mar...a 1st floor patio with doors...the blood was there..a 'stain' I read...no info on dna testing or whose blood it is...I have seen no confirmation of blood at the apartment...maybe I missed it, anyone know a link? They say he carried her in and put her in a suitcase...then carried her back out...no video cameras saw any of this...and she was not in the suitcase he carried through the lobby that morning...another red herring...
Funny...he carried her in the room yet the only blood found was outside on the patio...anyone see a link with blood inside the hotel room?

Did he strip her naked & wrap her BLOODY head in towels in car before she went into room?

[Paladine]

Very risky to take her out of car at hotel unless she wasnt dead yet & he didnt want her waking up (from beating) in the parking lot?..I guess this would mean he strangled her in the room? May not have decided to alter her identity until ride back to LA..That would explain the erratic driving pattern..I dont see too much of a cover-up mostly cos of where he left the car..It is like he wanted it to be found & proven to be the murder scene..SODDI?

Doesn't it make your head hurt? Sure does mine...this case makes no sense...maybe the Guy was looney...that's why I can't 'get' it...maybe Jenkins Dads lawyers statement will help, give more info. Heard he's supposed to release one soon...

[Paladine]

Did he strip her naked & wrap her BLOODY head in towels in car before she went into room?

Good question...high end hotel towels are expensive..you'd think housekeeping would need to make note if towels were missing...a log report of some kind...anyone know? The only way to know what did happen in this case seems to be to rule out what couldn't have happened...if that makes sense...does to me...:crazy:

[Paladine]

Confirmed to be Fiores hair and blood on patio of L'Auberge Del Mar...nothing confirmed yet inside, curiously...maybe he attacked her outside? Or...it came off his shoes or out of the car when he returned and he put her in the trunk...and in the suitcase by Corona...no idea...just speculation...
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fiore-jenkins-body-2544173-room-hotel

[jjgram]

and more:

<<The severing of her fingers were definitely done post-mortem. Her nose was broken and she sustained head injuries. Pliers could have been used to pull her teeth out. There were fragments of her teeth in the suitcase.

Cops say it was a domestic violence case gone bad ... and it was all over "jealousy.">>

Source: TMZ

Sorry.... but this line from POLICE ~ BUGGGGGGS me !!!!

Being Jealous...
does NOT ~ always mean ~ Death ~ and it does NOT always...
mean...
Stuffing into suitcase and ~ Cutting off fingers ~ and Pulling every single
tooth out of a persons head...
My Lord.... that is something out of a MOBSTER ~ Prison ~ Gorilla War type situation... now really...
have you ever ~ EVER thought how very very hard it is to pull even
one.... single tooth...muchless ~ ALL of a dead person's teeth !
man ~ you would have to be one STRONG DUDE ~ and or be on
some powerful drugs...

JMO
Justice needs to be CATCHING THE REAL? KILLER ! ! !
GodBless!
jjgram

*** perhaps I got carried away.. and
this might not need to go under this post ? sorry !




Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0PRH7oCTI

Don't know if this is the right post or not? sorry !

[jjgram]

Yet, I thought they said the reason they went off road was because of a fight, a struggle...? Anyone else recall that? I guess they are trying to account for the patio blood. Sure would like to know whose blood, did they confirm whose blood?...was DNA done...?

:clap:
:waitasec:
perhaps the BLOOD was from the car going off the road...
during a struggle.... and then someone busting their NOSE and
thus... BLOOD... etc..
and fight continued....

Drugs and alcohol cause ~ Huge ~ Problems... and add Jealousy ~

can lead to DEATH ~ but... this dismemberment... and Tooth pulling...

that is WAY FAR OUT ! ! !

JMO

Justice = catch the REAL KILLER ! ! !

God Bless !
jjgram

[Wonder]

Confirmed to be Fiores hair and blood on patio of L'Auberge Del Mar...nothing confirmed yet inside, curiously...maybe he attacked her outside? Or...it came off his shoes or out of the car when he returned and he put her in the trunk...and in the suitcase by Corona...no idea...just speculation...
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fiore-jenkins-body-2544173-room-hotel

Yes, Paladine, that works for me. Why drag her in and out of the room? I bet he tossed her in the trunk and then came through the patio entrance because he was a mess - maybe took clothes and stuff and the suitcase she was found in back out to the car, then cleaned up and left the next morning at 9:20 --- then put her in the suitcase up in Corona after mutilating her..sounds like something like that.

[jjgram]

or ... just maybe...
they tryed to make up....

but .... Jasmine... took off walking... and he decided to sleep...and check out
the next day... and
she got a ride home... or was already at home...

but... the deal is....

as soon as they talk more about the cell phone RECORDS....
or
toll road reports....


but... I just can't wrap my mind around this

OFFICE/ Suit type/ guy..... Chopping off fingers & PULLIng out ALL TEETH!!

Just think about getting one tooth pulled at the dentist...
imagine.... what... 36 teeth ? Dear Me... that's worse than
a wild and crazed person...

and imagine.... living with your self immediately after that....

would you even bother to check out of hotel...
or
go home....
wouldn't you run right that minute....?

wouldn't you be sooooo sick ~ Would you stop and say...
hey Police....
my wife is missing ?

I just can't get my mind to go there...

but A DRUGGED out/ or Paid Killer ! ~ Yes.... that is there business


JMO

God Bless !
jj

**** I'm not 100% that RJ killed JF
still drifting towards.... DRUG/Type/ Gambling/ other deeper deal.:waitasec:

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