Nancy Garrido

[arielilane]

This thread is to discuss Garrido's wife, Nancy Garrido.

[arielilane]

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:OT3L4MyrA008OM:http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D4049418&usg=__y2KYGL7vOLjC6Pb8T86C3vr8t9U=&h=100&w=66&sz=6&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=OT3L4MyrA008OM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=54&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djaycee%2Bdugard%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom .microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGIT_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1)htt p://www.foxnews.com/images/556615/11_64_082709_garrido.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543640,00.html#)

[sfbaynancydrew]

I looked in public records and found him married to another woman from NV in 1973 (I don't want to publish her name on here, but it wasn't Nancy). I don't see any divorce and I don't see marriage to Nancy, but they may have done it in a state that doesn't publish it.

[Dani_md]

I posted in the other thread how I thought Nancy strongly resembled Tara Cossey who went missing in 1979. The age is off but worth looking into. I'll copy and paste what I put on the other thread.

I tried to make a side by side of Nancy and Tara don't know how good it turned out since it is my first time doing this. Nancy's nose is a bit wider but my nose is wider then it was at 12. Nancy looks older then 43, like she could actually be 54. The forehead is scrunched and her hair is covering it, so her forehead looks smaller then Tara's. The ears, eyes, mouth, jawbone, and chin look simular to me. And as another poster said 30 yrs living with PG could be cause for looking so rough!

[krt]

I posted in the other thread how I thought Nancy strongly resembled Tara Cossey who went missing in 1979. The age is off but worth looking into. I'll copy and paste what I put on the other thread.

I tried to make a side by side of Nancy and Tara don't know how good it turned out since it is my first time doing this. Nancy's nose is a bit wider but my nose is wider then it was at 12. Nancy looks older then 43, like she could actually be 54. The forehead is scrunched and her hair is covering it, so her forehead looks smaller then Tara's. The ears, eyes, mouth, jawbone, and chin look simular to me. And as another poster said 30 yrs living with PG could be cause for looking so rough!

Tara was 9 when she was abducted in San Pablo.

[sfbaynancydrew]

Edited to add that I was incorrect on his age. California birth records has him listed as being born on 4/5/51 so he was old enough in 1973.

[Dani_md]

Charley project list it as 12 and says some sites often say 11

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cossey_tara.html

[LovingTheChaos]

I'm not seeing it. If she is a victim, LE will be all over it, and she would be screaming about it, seeing that she is about to do a lot of time for her involvment. She is just another monster in this case, imo.

[sfbaynancydrew]

Snipped from this article:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL

"It was at the federal prison in Leavenworth, Kan., that Phillip Garrido met his wife, the visiting niece of another prisoner.

The couple communicated through letters and then married in a ceremony held behind prison walls, Ron Garrido said."

[sfbaynancydrew]

By the way, for what it's worth I don't show any children born in the first marriage in the CA birth records. Since I don't know Nancy's maiden name, I can't check the 2nd marriage.

[Mazama]

1951 LOCATION
Birth Date: 5 Apr 1951 Birth County: Contra Costa, CA

1989, 1992 and 1993 LOCATION

Name: Phillip C Garrido Birth Date: 1956 Address: Rr 1 Pob 397e, Antioch, California 94509-0801 (1993)
[Rr 1 Pob 396e, Antioch, California 94509-0701 (1989)]
[1554 Walnut Av, Antioch, California 94509-1101 (1992)]

1993 POSSIBLE LOCATION - NOT VERIFIED
Name: Phillip C Garrido Birth Date: 1952 Address: 2815 Patton Rd, Anniston, Alabama 36201-0901 (1993)

1973 LOCATION - Marriage record
Name: Phillip Craig Garrido Gender: Male Residence State: California Spouse: C M Perreira Spouse residence state: California Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1973 Marriage City: Carson City, NV Officiant type: Religious celebrant Recorded Date: 16 Mar 1973 Recorded city: Carson City, NV

1980 LOCATION - Divorce record
Name: Phillip C Garrido Spouse Name: Christin Location: Contra Costa, CA Date: 20 Oct 1980

Maz

[krt]

I posted in the other thread how I thought Nancy strongly resembled Tara Cossey who went missing in 1979. The age is off but worth looking into. I'll copy and paste what I put on the other thread.

I tried to make a side by side of Nancy and Tara don't know how good it turned out since it is my first time doing this. Nancy's nose is a bit wider but my nose is wider then it was at 12. Nancy looks older then 43, like she could actually be 54. The forehead is scrunched and her hair is covering it, so her forehead looks smaller then Tara's. The ears, eyes, mouth, jawbone, and chin look simular to me. And as another poster said 30 yrs living with PG could be cause for looking so rough!

He was in prison during this time per a news article http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNHQ19EU4O.DTL

[sfbaynancydrew]

I do show a Nancy Garrido dob 7/18/55 with an address in Leavenworth, KS. I wonder if this is the same woman and perhaps this is property she owns and/or inherited?.

[brighidin]

Someone on the live chat at newsnet10 said her full name is
Nancy Zuniga Garrido and that she is on myspace.

[Mazama]

Found this:
Name: T***** L***** Adams Gender: Male Residence State: California Spouse: Nancy Garrido Spouse residence state: California Marriage Date: 4 Jul 1997 Marriage County: Washoe Recorded Date: 7 Jul 1997 Recorded city: Reno Book: 988 Page: 1976 Instrument number: MA97-13689
I am protecting the name of the groom as this is not verified information...only a possibility.

Bride lists CA as home but marriage takes place in Reno,Washoe County, NV. Coincidence? Maybe...

Maz

[Cymro]

Doesn't NV have less stringent laws on notice periods, age limits, etc. for weddings than Ca (i.e., eloping across the border?)

Plus why would Nancy be bigamously marrying someone else in the late 90s, given that she'd married Phillip in jail in the 80s and is still with him now?

Plus I think Garrido is that woman's maiden name (bet she's glad she lost it now) and it's not that uncommon.

[Mazama]

Doesn't NV have less stringent laws on notice periods, age limits, etc. for weddings than Ca (i.e., eloping across the border?)

Plus why would Nancy be bigamously marrying someone else in the late 90s, given that she'd married Phillip in jail in the 80s and is still with him now?

Plus I think Garrido is that woman's maiden name (bet she's glad she lost it now) and it's not that uncommon.
As I noted, this was a possibility and not verified. At this point all we have is what the brother said in that article, we don't know that they have indeed legally married. We still need to find the record of it.

Maz

:cow:

[joga]

Snipped from this article:http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL

"It was at the federal prison in Leavenworth, Kan., that Phillip Garrido met his wife, the visiting niece of another prisoner.

The couple communicated through letters and then married in a ceremony held behind prison walls, Ron Garrido said."

ugh, puke...

[sfbaynancydrew]

This timeline: http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2144352.html if correct, says he was in KS for 11 years before being transferred. So he would have had to have gotten married to Nancy there. He was incarcerated in 1976, first wife divorced him in 1980, so he most likely married Nancy in KS. Which does not have public records online. I wonder if someone called the Leavenworth County Clerks Office if they would look up the info over the phone. Some of them do.

[nobody2]

I posted in the other thread how I thought Nancy strongly resembled Tara Cossey who went missing in 1979. The age is off but worth looking into. I'll copy and paste what I put on the other thread.

I tried to make a side by side of Nancy and Tara don't know how good it turned out since it is my first time doing this. Nancy's nose is a bit wider but my nose is wider then it was at 12. Nancy looks older then 43, like she could actually be 54. The forehead is scrunched and her hair is covering it, so her forehead looks smaller then Tara's. The ears, eyes, mouth, jawbone, and chin look simular to me. And as another poster said 30 yrs living with PG could be cause for looking so rough!


The idea of this is very intriguing. I do not think this is her, but I guess I would want to compare more "known" folks with their childhood pics in this manner before I would feel confident that it is or is not. The philtrum looks similar, and the very dark eyes and a couple other things. THe ears don't look quite right though, and the bridge of Garrido;s nose, between her eyes, seems more pinched. I have also noticed that many people have sort of a natural part to their hair, to one side or the middle, that they have from childhood, and the older woman's part is more to the side.

[minazoe]

she is scrunching her face, I will say that some women part their hair to cover a bad hairline with alot of little baby hairs like that.

[Mr. E]

Do Garrido and Nancy have any children in common?

I will never understand women like this. Women who will do anything for a man, even if it means harming a child.

[Dani_md]

although someone stated he was in prison at the time Tara went missing. I must say requarding the part, I have very thick hair and I have to part my hair how I want it to go, if not it's in a zigzag mess or it will be even then turn. Now when I comb it when wet I have to put it where I want it as well.

[thefragile7393]

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:OT3L4MyrA008OM:http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D4049418&usg=__y2KYGL7vOLjC6Pb8T86C3vr8t9U=&h=100&w=66&sz=6&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=OT3L4MyrA008OM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=54&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djaycee%2Bdugard%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom .microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGIT_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1)htt p://www.foxnews.com/images/556615/11_64_082709_garrido.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543640,00.html#)

Although I see a vague resemblence, the sketch sure resembles (IMO) more the Maurad woman.

[sfbaynancydrew]

Do Garrido and Nancy have any children in common?

I will never understand women like this. Women who will do anything for a man, even if it means harming a child.

Mr. E, it doesn't appear that they do. I'd have to have her maiden name to more conclusive search, but they've mostly lived in the East Bay, CA and there weren't any children with his last name born in that county during the years she would have had children. At least that couldn't be attributed to other people with that last name.

So I'm thinking that she didn't.

[arielilane]

I got this message when I tired to retrieve her myspace:

The function that you are currently trying to use is disabled and will be back shortly.

We are making some minor changes to this section so please bear with us until we can get it back online.

Please do NOT email me about this. Just wait it out. Aug 28, 2009 -Tom

[Mazama]

Mr. E, it doesn't appear that they do. I'd have to have her maiden name to more conclusive search, but they've mostly lived in the East Bay, CA and there weren't any children with his last name born in that county during the years she would have had children. At least that couldn't be attributed to other people with that last name.

So I'm thinking that she didn't.
At this point I have to agree. I've come up with nothing yet too.

Maz

[Mazama]

I got this message when I tired to retrieve her myspace:

The function that you are currently trying to use is disabled and will be back shortly.

We are making some minor changes to this section so please bear with us until we can get it back online.

Please do NOT email me about this. Just wait it out. Aug 28, 2009 -Tom
What is the url?

Maz

[nobody2]

although someone stated he was in prison at the time Tara went missing. I must say requarding the part, I have very thick hair and I have to part my hair how I want it to go, if not it's in a zigzag mess or it will be even then turn. Now when I comb it when wet I have to put it where I want it as well.

Yeah actually, and now that you mention it it is parted in the middle on the composite and that is pretty clearly her. My hair moves back to the same side no matter how I part it though!

[Boyz_Mum]

Although I see a vague resemblence, the sketch sure resembles (IMO) more the Maurad woman.

I agree. Thanks for bringing those over here.

[LinasK]

It was at the federal prison in Leavenworth, Kan., that Phillip Garrido met his wife, the visiting niece of another prisoner.
The couple communicated through letters and then married in a ceremony held behind prison walls, Ron Garrido said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL#ixzz0PYMSPzOU

[Cordelia]

If Nancy met him through her uncle and married him while he was in prison - was she specifically interested in being with a kidnapping rapist? It sounds like from the charges that she was a full participant. I wish we had her maiden name.

[nobody2]

I thought maybe someone did post her name? Zuniga? Or was that the first wife's name?

[Cordelia]

Someone on the live chat at newsnet10 said her full name is
Nancy Zuniga Garrido and that she is on myspace.

I haven't been able to find the myspace page.

There are so many Nancy Garridos - I would be hesitant to believe somebody in live chat at newsnet10 would know for sure - unless it was a reporter or some official? I've seen her listed mostly as "Nancy D. Garrido".

If anybody finds the myspace or a copy of it, I'm looking for her birthdate.

[Themis]

I haven't been able to find the myspace page.

There are so many Nancy Garridos - I would be hesitant to believe somebody in live chat at newsnet10 would know for sure - unless it was a reporter or some official? I've seen her listed mostly as "Nancy D. Garrido".

If anybody finds the myspace or a copy of it, I'm looking for her birthdate.
She's 54. You may not find her birthdate because she was born in the Philippines.

[Cordelia]

She's 54. You may not find her birthdate because she was born in the Philippines.

I hadn't found the tidbit about the Philippines. Was that in one of the articles? I've read she was a jehovah's witness and that she met him while visiting an uncle in Leavenworth prison.

[JulieR]

I hadn't found the tidbit about the Philippines. Was that in one of the articles? I've read she was a jehovah's witness and that she met him while visiting an uncle in Leavenworth prison.

She can call herself whatever she wants, but there is no way she was/is a Jehovah Witness they marry within the organization.

[arielilane]

Nancy D Garrido

Address History


1 in Denver, CO
1 in Leavenworth, KS
6 in Antioch, CA
See all cities (http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/preview/peoplesearch.do?&searchMName=D&searchState=CA&searchCity=Antioch&searchFName=NANCY&searchLName=GARRIDO&adID=158-0000000020&adsource=158&TID=5&searchtab=home#)
Aliases


Nancy Bocanegra
Nancy Garrida
Nancy M Garrido
See all aliases (http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/preview/peoplesearch.do?&searchMName=D&searchState=CA&searchCity=Antioch&searchFName=NANCY&searchLName=GARRIDO&adID=158-0000000020&adsource=158&TID=5&searchtab=home#)
Relatives


Phillip C Garrido

http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/preview/peoplesearch.do?&searchMName=D&searchState=CA&searchCity=Antioch&searchFName=NANCY&searchLName=GARRIDO&adID=158-0000000020&adsource=158&TID=5&searchtab=home

[arielilane]

What is the url?

Maz
www.myspace.com

[Cordelia]

Nancy D Garrido
...

Nancy Bocanegra
Nancy Garrida
Nancy M Garrido


Excellent, Ariel! Her email address was nancybgarrido@yahoo.com, so "nancy bocanegra" might very well be her maiden name. :)

[Themis]

I hadn't found the tidbit about the Philippines. Was that in one of the articles? I've read she was a jehovah's witness and that she met him while visiting an uncle in Leavenworth prison.

"Garrido was held in a tough federal prison in Leavenworth, Kansas, but released 11 years later on parole after he claimed to have “found God”. He travelled back to California with his new bride, a Philippines-born woman called Nancy."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6814941.ece

[Cordelia]

"Garrido was held in a tough federal prison in Leavenworth, Kansas, but released 11 years later on parole after he claimed to have “found God”. He travelled back to California with his new bride, a Philippines-born woman called Nancy."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6814941.ece

Lovely! thanks very much Themis. I couldn't find the reference for the life of me.

[Themis]

Lovely! thanks very much Themis. I couldn't find the reference for the life of me.
You're welcome. Conditions for women in the Philippines wasn't real good in the 1980s and 1990s. Employment was nearly impossible and there was a big mail order bride culture going on so Philippine women could come to the US. It could show why NG needed a child so badly and why she put up with what was going on. I guess that is some mitigation. Twisted and totally unacceptable but the pieces fit.

[mayfairlight]

"Public records show that Phillip Garrido married the former Nancy Bocanegra in Leavenworth, Kan., on Oct. 5, 1981. He was 30 at the time, and she was 26."

http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/1412033.html?storylink=omni_popular

[LaLaw2000]

I have a question for Nancy Garrido. HOW could you do this???????

I think she should rot in prison along with HIM!

[scandi]

Hi, I'd love to know what her involvement is in this fiasco and exactly what charges have been laid against her. Unless she is submissively weak it is amazing she would put up with such drastic happenings in her home. I mean, this is way beyond a woman doing anything to keep a man, don't you think?

[raindrops300]

Since this case broke, I don't think I've seen a single comment about her (except her lawyer) from a neighbor, business contact, or acquaintance. Has anyone? Maybe I've missed something.

Well, his brother commented about their marriage in prison, but nothing about her personally.

[JulieR]

Since this case broke, I don't think I've seen a single comment about her (except her lawyer) from a neighbor, business contact, or acquaintance. Has anyone? Maybe I've missed something.

Well, his brother commented about their marriage in prison, but nothing about her personally.


Ron Garrido said his brother's wife, Nancy Garrido, who was also arrested, was "a robot" under her husband's control.

"She would do anything he asked her to," said Ron Garrido, a former electrician and retired supervisor at the East Contra Costa Irrigation District. "I told my wife, 'It's no different from Manson and those girls.' She was under his control."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL#ixzz0Pha9etMP

[Brassband]

Ron Garrido said his brother's wife, Nancy Garrido, who was also arrested, was "a robot" under her husband's control.

"She would do anything he asked her to," said Ron Garrido, a former electrician and retired supervisor at the East Contra Costa Irrigation District. "I told my wife, 'It's no different from Manson and those girls.' She was under his control."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL#ixzz0Pha9etMP

That makes sense somehow. No excuse however. I'm not a violent person, but if my husband ever did that, he may have gone to sleep that night, but he wouldn't have woke up in the morning. I think any normal person wouldn't accept violence against a child.

[Cordelia]

I don't think there's any reason to believe she's not a pervert too. She's being charged with everything he's been charged with. She participated in the kidnapping. She went shopping for a prisoner husband - she must have known he kidnapped and sexually assaulted a woman. Maybe she was simply into it.

[nobody2]

Up to date article, plus wife's name: http://abcnews.go.com/US/Weekend/story?id=8447788

Even from inside the penitentiary, DeMaranville said, Garrido convinced a woman, Nancy Boconegra to marry him. She has stayed with him to this day.

[Shari_Gal]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies


"Police say she shares not only Garrido’s bizarre “religious” beliefs – together they formed a crackpot cult called God’s Desire, holding meetings at their Antioch home – but also his deviant sexual attitudes.
Detectives told her that her *husband had been diagnosed as *psychotic and addicted to “forced sex”. She allegedly blurted out: “So what? We have the same tastes.”
The senior officer revealed: “This is clearly a match made in hell. We know she took an active part in the abduction. But did she play a physical part in the never-ending nightmare her husband inflicted on Jaycee?"


Some of the original news reports from 1991 say that witnesses of the abduction saw the woman in the vehicle (that would be Nancy) drag the kicking & screaming little girl into the car








(http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies)

[Themis]

Ron Garrido said his brother's wife, Nancy Garrido, who was also arrested, was "a robot" under her husband's control.

"She would do anything he asked her to," said Ron Garrido, a former electrician and retired supervisor at the East Contra Costa Irrigation District. "I told my wife, 'It's no different from Manson and those girls.' She was under his control."



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/28/MNHQ19EU4O.DTL#ixzz0Pha9etMP
She may have been submissive in the beginning but she became an aggressive Perp. He was again imprisoned during the captivity and she stepped into his shoes maintaining JC's captivity.

[txsvicki]

A match made in Hell is right. The Zuniga woman is definitely spineless and criminal no matter how she met this man. He was in jail and she was a grown woman when they met. He probably did manipulate and brainwash her during the prison courtship and no telling what the story is with the uncle, but she's responsible for going along with it all for so many years. It's so hard for me to imagine following any man much less going along with hurting children. May she live the rest of her miserable days in prison and never get out or get around any young 18 year old or so prison inmates. They need protection from these types of monsters also.

[LillyRush]

You know what, looking at this sketch and photo reminds me of the fact that Jaycee's stepfather did such a good job with the description of the suspects for the police sketches, the vehicle, everything. It is a shame that they didn't work harder to find suspects based on his description and instead basically turned him into a suspect. I think he deserves a public apology and possibly even a portion of the reward, if there is still a reward. The other portion going to the campus police officers, of course.

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:OT3L4MyrA008OM:http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/DugardSuspectF1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php%3Fp%3D4049418&usg=__y2KYGL7vOLjC6Pb8T86C3vr8t9U=&h=100&w=66&sz=6&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=OT3L4MyrA008OM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=54&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djaycee%2Bdugard%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom .microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGIT_en%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1)htt p://www.foxnews.com/images/556615/11_64_082709_garrido.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,543640,00.html#)

[Trino]

I believe it will be interesting when psychologists evaluate her. What was she like before marrying PG? And, how weird is it that she cared for J while PG was imprisoned for 4 months for parole violations?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210125/Is-new-Rose-West-Its-belief-Nancy-Garrido-didnt-know-going-on.html

[mayfairlight]

Where was she born? One article says Phillippines, another says Texas. I've found two NBs in Texas born 1955.

[nobody2]

A match made in Hell is right. The Zuniga woman is definitely spineless and criminal no matter how she met this man. He was in jail and she was a grown woman when they met. He probably did manipulate and brainwash her during the prison courtship and no telling what the story is with the uncle, but she's responsible for going along with it all for so many years. It's so hard for me to imagine following any man much less going along with hurting children. May she live the rest of her miserable days in prison and never get out or get around any young 18 year old or so prison inmates. They need protection from these types of monsters also.

I guess her name was actually Boconegra.

[nursebeeme]

I do show a Nancy Garrido dob 7/18/55 with an address in Leavenworth, KS. I wonder if this is the same woman and perhaps this is property she owns and/or inherited?.

we are stationed in Leavenworth. I live not even mile from the USP where he was in prison. Leavenworth is a HUGE prison town... there are five just in the town alone.... there are 14 in the county. When people are in prison loved ones will come and live in rentals so they can be near their loved one. I am going to go out on a limb here and think that she met him while he was in prison (I did read that in an article somewhere) and she came to Leavenworth to be nearer to him until he got out. As to how she met him.... could have been she was one of those nutty pen pal kinda things... I really want to know more about this woman! That is FOR SURE! It was her arms that snatched that child off the street!

[nursebeeme]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies


"Police say she shares not only Garrido’s bizarre “religious” beliefs – together they formed a crackpot cult called God’s Desire, holding meetings at their Antioch home – but also his deviant sexual attitudes.
Detectives told her that her *husband had been diagnosed as *psychotic and addicted to “forced sex”. She allegedly blurted out: “So what? We have the same tastes.”
The senior officer revealed: “This is clearly a match made in hell. We know she took an active part in the abduction. But did she play a physical part in the never-ending nightmare her husband inflicted on Jaycee?"


Some of the original news reports from 1991 say that witnesses of the abduction saw the woman in the vehicle (that would be Nancy) drag the kicking & screaming little girl into the car








(http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies)

great find! I am bumping this!

[nursebeeme]

Just as he built a labyrinthine backyard prison for Jaycee, Garrido crafted a chilling, makeshift “cell” for Katherine in a rented mini-warehouse in Reno, just miles from where she worked as a casino croupier.
In it were sick sex toys, small mountains of pornography, wine, a projector, a spotlight and rugs on the floors and walls to create home-made sound-proofing. Katherine was held for several hours before, by sheer chance, a police patrol stopped to investigate a suspicious car outside the unit and heard her muffled screams.


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies

lest we forget what this sick bastard is capable of... that and his partner Nancy... who has already told LE that they, "have the same tastes"

[mayfairlight]

I do show a Nancy Garrido dob 7/18/55 with an address in Leavenworth, KS. I wonder if this is the same woman and perhaps this is property she owns and/or inherited?.

One of the Nancy Bocanegra I found born in Texas has the same date of birth as this Nancy Garrido. Coincidence?:waitasec:
She was born in Bexar, father's name Joe.

[LinasK]

On a different thread is Geraldo interviewing step-dad Carl, and he said it was Nancy who did the snatching. He was dead on with his descriptions of Nancy and the car!!!
So sad that people didn't believe him, and more couldn't be done to find and save Jaycee sooner.

[mysteriew]

Neighbors who have met Nancy Garrido say her disturbing non-communicative behavior was even stranger than her husband's religious rants, according to the Telegraph.

"In some ways to me she is the real monster," Cheyvonne Molino, an aquentance of the Garridos, told the British paper. "She is a woman and should never have let this happen."

Molino said she saw Nancy Garrido and Dugard shopping together in a local supermarket this year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/31/crimesider/entry5277289.shtml

[mysteriew]

Mrs Garrido’s role has stunned America, leading to speculation about her motives, her relationship with her husband and her own mental state. Little has been made public about her early life but it is believed that she was a Jehovah’s Witness when she met Garrido during a visit to her uncle in a prison in Leavenworth, Kansas.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6816431.ece

[wicket]

We have heard almost nothing regarding this woman and it's driving me nuts. N. Garrido was not hatched or dropped from space. Where is this so-called uncle if there was one? I want her to face the same charges as P.G. They were partners in this crime so she should face the identical charges - he should spend the rest of his life in prison and so should she. She did nothing to help report this kidnapping and she had many chances. Plus, when visitors report to the prison, they have to submit identification, they must sign their names - plus she was married in that stupid prison - was there no paper trail? People can just walk in and get married? That's it? I'm ticked that so little has been spoken of this so-called woman - please let her not get out on a plea deal or an abused syndrome of one sort or another.

[w3as3L]

what exactally are you trying to find out?

[w3as3L]

7/18/1955 is nancys birthday. Her maiden name is bocanegra.

shes got a looooot of family, bro and sisters. mom dad. all relatives are basicly "long lost". but have reconnected.

[mysteriew]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies


"Police say she shares not only Garrido’s bizarre “religious” beliefs – together they formed a crackpot cult called God’s Desire, holding meetings at their Antioch home – but also his deviant sexual attitudes.
Detectives told her that her *husband had been diagnosed as *psychotic and addicted to “forced sex”. She allegedly blurted out: “So what? We have the same tastes.” The senior officer revealed: “This is clearly a match made in hell. We know she took an active part in the abduction. But did she play a physical part in the never-ending nightmare her husband inflicted on Jaycee?"


Some of the original news reports from 1991 say that witnesses of the abduction saw the woman in the vehicle (that would be Nancy) drag the kicking & screaming little girl into the car








(http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/123816/Jaycee-s-first-words-Mom-I-have-babies)

I am just wanting to emphasize this statement so that I don't forget. Once the attorneys start working on this I am sure it will be said that Nancy was a victim too, that she had to cooperate due to DV. They will conveniently forget about the months that PG was incarcerated, but Jaycee was still held prisoner.

[nursebeeme]

Neighbors who have met Nancy Garrido say her disturbing non-communicative behavior was even stranger than her husband's religious rants, according to the Telegraph.

"In some ways to me she is the real monster," Cheyvonne Molino, an aquentance of the Garridos, told the British paper. "She is a woman and should never have let this happen."

Molino said she saw Nancy Garrido and Dugard shopping together in a local supermarket this year.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/31/crimesider/entry5277289.shtml
and the name molino comes up again! This is the family that were friends with Garridos.. they owned some kind of car place where one of the missing and murdered women was found impaled on the fence of their business near the place where Garrido worked during that time frame!~

[hockeymom]

and the name molino comes up again! This is the family that were friends with Garridos.. they owned some kind of car place where one of the missing and murdered women was found impaled on the fence of their business near the place where Garrido worked during that time frame!~

That seems alittle too much of a coincidence.

[Emily Booth]

From public records, Cheyvonne Molino is age 63 and lives at 50 Blaine Ct, Pittsburg, CA.

JM Enterprises, an auto wrecker, which she owns with her husband, James, being closed due to environmental concerns:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_13206768?source=most_viewed

Pittsburg CA hairstylist w/ same name but looks much younger:
http://lrd.yahooapis.com/_ylc=X3oDMTVnMjZpbDUyBF9TAzIwMjMxNTI... (http://lrd.yahooapis.com/_ylc=X3oDMTVnMjZpbDUyBF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc 1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1N GSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsa WVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZ pZAN5aTJHSVdLSWNycWI2Z3QwcGdrXzJqWHdXODV4ZUVxY2kyO EFDa1RS/SIG=13vfm2dsc/**http%3A//www.hairextensionsnetwork.com/hair_extensions/stylist_salon/1522/beyond_beautiful_image_group_cheyvonne_molino.html )

Jaycee's girls went to a birthday party at her house:
http://m.usatoday.com/detail.jsp?key=692507&rc=News

Jaycee's girls appeared normal:
http://lrd.yahooapis.com/_ylc=X3oDMTVndDk0NHM5BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI... (http://lrd.yahooapis.com/_ylc=X3oDMTVndDk0NHM5BF9TAzIwMjMxNTI3MDIEYXBwaWQDc 1k3Wlo2clYzNEhSZm5ZdGVmcmkzRUx4VG5makpERG5QOWVKV1N GSkJHcTJ1V1dFa0xVdm5IYnNBeUNyVkd5Y2REVElUX2tlBGNsa WVudANib3NzBHNlcnZpY2UDQk9TUwRzbGsDdGl0bGUEc3JjcHZ pZANPQnd6aTJLSWNybzVhWVZLVm56aDcwbXJXODV4ZmtxY2kyO EFDckJN/SIG=12m2tl5ev/**http%3A//www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/31/california.missing.girl%3Feref=rss_topstories)

Garrido just your local unhinged neighbor:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13231802

All I can say is thank God for those 2 female security guards at UC Berkeley! They got it!

[nursebeeme]

might I add that the same family.. the Molino's is the family at which the pictures of the daughters were obtained. EEEEEEErie indeeeeedy!

[LillyRush]

Hmm, Cheyvonne didn't look 63 in the video that I saw earlier today. I can't remember what source; I've viewed so many links today. But, anyway, that is pretty interesting that her name keeps popping up. I guess she could be doing all of these interviews for money.

[LillyRush]

Lots of similarities between Nancy Garrido and Karla Homolka, IMO. Hopefully, Garrido will not be able to make some plea or somehow get out of jail earlier than normal.

[mayfairlight]

7/18/1955 is nancys birthday. Her maiden name is bocanegra.

shes got a looooot of family, bro and sisters. mom dad. all relatives are basicly "long lost". but have reconnected.

Where did you find out about her family, or do you know her?
I'm sure you're right about the DOB, it's the same me and sfbaynancydrew found for both NG and NB.
But I couldn't find anything else about her or her family except the names of her (possible) father, sister and brother.:waitasec:
(Except she was probably born in Texas, not the Phillippines)

[cleo612]

and the name molino comes up again! This is the family that were friends with Garridos.. they owned some kind of car place where one of the missing and murdered women was found impaled on the fence of their business near the place where Garrido worked during that time frame!~

I wonder what Ms. Molino will have to say when and if it is determined that Garrido is responsible for those deaths, and particularly for the one you mentioned. Will she still be singing his praises?

[w3as3L]

Where did you find out about her family, or do you know her?
I'm sure you're right about the DOB, it's the same me and sfbaynancydrew found for both NG and NB.
But I couldn't find anything else about her or her family except the names of her (possible) father, sister and brother.:waitasec:
(Except she was probably born in Texas, not the Phillippines)

I have my sources. They are confirmed. I'm not sure what you all are looking for tho.

[RJA00]

I am just wanting to emphasize this statement so that I don't forget. Once the attorneys start working on this I am sure it will be said that Nancy was a victim too, that she had to cooperate due to DV. They will conveniently forget about the months that PG was incarcerated, but Jaycee was still held prisoner.

jaycee step father asked about him being incarcerated tonight on larry king
they said that was not true. he was not incarerated after he kidnapped her

[ChaCha]

jaycee step father asked about him being incarcerated tonight on larry king
they said that was not true. he was not incarerated after he kidnapped her

SYSTEM FAILED JAYCEE - 1ST RAPE VICTIM - WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE

He was not 100% truthful when Jaycee’s father asked him about Garrido’s parole violation.

Available federal and state parole records show that Phillip Garrido was released from a Nevada prison in 1988 only to violate his federal parole in California five years later.

See related news story:
Garrido violated federal parole, stayed free (http://www.rgj.com/article/20090828/NEWS/90828055/1321)

No one seems to know what he did to violate it and no one thought to notify the State so they could also return him on his State sentence.

Someone needs to ask these hard questions and demand answers!

[ChaCha]

From public records, Cheyvonne Molino is age 63 and lives at 50 Blaine Ct, Pittsburg, CA.

JM Enterprises, an auto wrecker, which she owns with her husband, James, being closed due to environmental concerns:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_13206768?source=most_viewed


I wonder if this is where Garrido dumped his chemicals from his print shop? Or possibly worse...bodies?

Commissioner AJ Fardella said it was "untenable" to allow JM to continue operating after years of "blatant disregard for authority" and possible harm to both the community and employees because of contaminants.

Are they selling photos and info to the media? They sound shady to me! No wonder she's sticking up for him!

[kikid]

I wonder if this is where Garrido dumped his chemicals from his print shop? Or possibly worse...bodies?

Commissioner AJ Fardella said it was "untenable" to allow JM to continue operating after years of "blatant disregard for authority" and possible harm to both the community and employees because of contaminants.

Are they selling photos and info to the media? They sound shady to me! No wonder she's sticking up for him!

maybe I'm reading more into this than there is but does anyone else notice

a) JM is where one of the murdered prostitutes was left "Impaled" on the fence.
b) JM's owner and his wife are good friends of Garrido & wife
c) Garrido is now a suspect in the murder of at least three prostitutes
d) In an interview (searching for video, haven't found it) Mr. Molino seemed to be holding back a grin when describing how the prostitute was found impaled on the JM fence
e) JM Wrecking "Crushed" cars... I'm thinking body disposal here - JM is described as "Auto Dismantler's" which could really come in handy for a kidnapper pulling women & girls into their cars!
f) Mrs. Molino on Larry King seemed to be almost saying "It wasn't that bad..." or something with the way she talked about the girls being clean and normal
g) One neighbor described seeing other men lined up in Garrido's backyard, high fiving each other, drinking and having what appeared to be "Sex parties".
h) On 8-28-09, Pittsburg Planning Commission unanimously voted to revoke JM Enterprises' permit to operate the wrecking yard at 1215 Willow Pass Road (coincidence????)

I wonder if this Mr. & Mrs. Molino know more than they are saying or if perhaps Mr Molino was involved in some way?? If they are not directly involved... just so many connections.

[adnoid]

I have my sources. They are confirmed. I'm not sure what you all are looking for tho.

Some indication of what these sources are would be nice.

[ChaCha]

maybe I'm reading more into this than there is but does anyone else notice
I wonder if this Mr. & Mrs. Molino know more than they are saying or if perhaps Mr Molino was involved in some way?? If they are not directly involved... just so many connections.

In one of the interviews Molino also says Garrido has a sex addiction, which he has shared details about. Then she has his daughters over and they tell her they've NEVER been out?

Something sure smells about this couple!

[kikid]

In one of the interviews Molino also says Garrido has a sex addiction, which he has shared details about. Then she has his daughters over and they tell her they've NEVER been out?

Something sure smells about this couple!

At the VERY LEAST, I hope the police/FBI search through all of Molino's records for the vehicles he towed off Garrido's property and dismantled for him!

[Mazama]

www.myspace.com (http://www.myspace.com)

I meant the url to her actual page.

Maz

[Mazama]

Police particularly want to question Mrs Garrido about the four months in the summer of 1993 when her husband went back to prison for breaking parole. Jaycee was 13 and, according to court documents, already the victim of multiple rapes at the hands of both Mrs Garrido and her husband.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6816431.ece

Maz

[Mazama]

7/18/1955 is nancys birthday. Her maiden name is bocanegra.

shes got a looooot of family, bro and sisters. mom dad. all relatives are basicly "long lost". but have reconnected.

What are your sources? So far everything I have read says she was born in the Phillipines.

Can you share your sources please?

Maz

[kikid]

What are your sources? So far everything I have read says she was born in the Phillipines.

Can you share your sources please?

Maz

I have no sources for where she is from, but looking at her pic's - she doesn't look Philippino at all, possibly of Hispanic ancestry - but I'd be shocked if she was really from the Philippines.

just MOO

[w3as3L]

i keep asking what you want to know, and still no questions....but what my sources are haha. I wont tell you my sources, all I can say is that they are 100% correct.

I already have all the names of all of her family. and their birthdays and locations. It's all irrelavent because they are innocent parties.

Heres a bone. The names of jaycees daughters arnt just Angel and Starlet....they are Angel Amber & Starlet Gabriel.


Nancy took care of phills sick mother...she had parkinsons.


Nancy spoke with her family after reconnecting about her family, filling in her long lost brothers and sisters with information about her life now, telling them she even has three kids now...three daughters. Nancy herself, refered to the kids as her own. And unless phillip was right at her back with a gun to her head telling her what to say......she didnt sound tooooo robotic as the press makes her out to be, she freely spoke about how she misses her sister, and her brother...and her family and mother. Spoke freely about her 3 kids to them. I can tell you this, her brother is not a broncos fan, and nancy made a joke to him on a postcard saying "go broncos!" (my point is that does not come off to me as very robotic, unless shes a good actress..but maybe)

her family also was in the now about her printing business.

so basicly in a nut shell shes creates a "im married to phill, lifes great, have 3 kids, the printing business...blah blah"

[w3as3L]

did it ever occur to anyone that maybe she couldent have kids of her own and thats what prompted this entire kidnapping? But when she and her phill carried thru with the idea, it backfired on nancy because suddenly she wasnt the center of attn from phill anymore and the kids became the new focus, jaycee and the kids kind of replacing nancy, and nancy in the background just caring for them with a resentment because at first it was partly her idea with him.

thats not comming from any of my sources, just my own little assumption.

[adnoid]

i keep asking what you want to know, and still no questions....but what my sources are haha. I wont tell you my sources, all I can say is that they are 100% correct....

"haha"? Look, that's not the way we talk to each other here. If you have sources you don't want to reveal that's fine, just don't post about it, but it's rude to post this "I know something you don't haha" stuff.

[Disguiseduser0308]

did it ever occur to anyone that maybe she couldent have kids of her own and thats what prompted this entire kidnapping? But when she and her phill carried thru with the idea, it backfired on nancy because suddenly she wasnt the center of attn from phill anymore and the kids became the new focus, jaycee and the kids kind of replacing nancy, and nancy in the background just caring for them with a resentment because at first it was partly her idea with him.

thats not comming from any of my sources, just my own little assumption.

I'm sure people have considered a lot of possibilities as to the reasons why Jaycee was kidnapped, raped, tortured, and forced to bare children for these sadistic devils. Your assumption is just one of the many possible explanations as to why.

Regardless as to why, this is a horrific story. One no person should have to endure. Especially not a child at the tender age of eleven. This is one of the few times I don't care why they did it. I only care that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Jaycee and her children deserve justice.

[LinasK]

I'm sure people have considered a lot of possibilities as to the reasons why Jaycee was kidnapped, raped, tortured, and forced to bare children for these sadistic devils. Your assumption is just one of the many possible explanations as to why.

Regardless as to why, this is a horrific story. One no person should have to endure. Especially not a child at the tender age of eleven. This is one of the few times I don't care why they did it. I only care that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Jaycee and her children deserve justice.
Agreed fully! Even if Nancy had infertility problems, did NOT give her the right to steal Jaycee from Terry and Carl- even if she had no idea of Phil's intentions- which I don't believe since she knew she married a rapist.
Besides, childless abductors usually steal babies- not 11-year-olds to breed their own!!!:furious::furious::furious:

[w3as3L]

Before I go I'll give you a little more.....I think nancys parents are divorced. Her mother has issues with pretty much all her kids I dont know why. Her father is a smoker who just had cataract surgery. She does not keep contact with her dad. I think he's remarried to a women whose name I wont disclose, and they had kids. I think nancys brothers and sisters think nancys dad considers his new kids from the new wife more his kids than nancy and her brothers and sisters. As I said nancy took care of phillips sick mother. Phills sick mother, I'm pretty sure has a sister whom was also sick, but I think she passed away recently. They kept this information of the passing from phills mom at first because her and her sister were very very close.

sorry you have insecurities, but my intention was not as in HAHA i know something you don't so please take that out of the universe as that is not what I said. It was more haha, i dont know you people or who reads this forum, and I'm not just going to throw everything on the table at one time in my first post because...like I said, its a public forum, and i dont know any of you or who is reading it.

It was just plain i wont tell you my sources with the side bar point of her family is an innocent party so their names don't need to be plastered on a web forum. With another side bar point of, me, being willing to answer your questions if there were any........cuz I am able to answer them...but so far no one has asked still so maybe you don't have any questions u wanted answered.

But if you are going to take offence to something I said, twist it, when I didnt intend anything in a rude way...than i'll just take my info else where and you guys can go waste your time matching names on intellus.com for whatever reasons you feel........i guess its your hobby.

so forget about little old me......continue on with your witch hunt without me.

[minazoe]

this is about diviant sex and control, it has nothing to do with an empty womb.

[adnoid]

...so forget about little old me...

As you wish.

[Disguiseduser0308]

Before I go I'll give you a little more.....I think nancys parents are divorced. Her mother has issues with pretty much all her kids I dont know why. Her father is a smoker who just had cataract surgery. She does not keep contact with her dad. I think he's remarried to a women whose name I wont disclose, and they had kids. I think nancys brothers and sisters think nancys dad considers his new kids from the new wife more his kids than nancy and her brothers and sisters. As I said nancy took care of phillips sick mother. Phills sick mother, I'm pretty sure has a sister whom was also sick, but I think she passed away recently. They kept this information of the passing from phills mom at first because her and her sister were very very close.

sorry you have insecurities, but my intention was not as in HAHA i know something you don't so please take that out of the universe as that is not what I said. It was more haha, i dont know you people or who reads this forum, and I'm not just going to throw everything on the table at one time in my first post because...like I said, its a public forum, and i dont know any of you or who is reading it.

It was just plain i wont tell you my sources with the side bar point of her family is an innocent party so their names don't need to be plastered on a web forum. With another side bar point of, me, being willing to answer your questions if there were any........cuz I am able to answer them...but so far no one has asked still so maybe you don't have any questions u wanted answered.

But if you are going to take offence to something I said, twist it, when I didnt intend anything in a rude way...than i'll just take my info else where and you guys can go waste your time matching names on intellus.com for whatever reasons you feel........i guess its your hobby.

so forget about little old me......continue on with your witch hunt without me.

Actually, if you're claiming to have inside information you will be asked to verify who you are by the site founder/owner. This is done so people who aren't involved don't attempt to slander or defile innocents in a case.

[Mazama]

Before I go I'll give you a little more.....I think nancys parents are divorced. Her mother has issues with pretty much all her kids I dont know why. Her father is a smoker who just had cataract surgery. She does not keep contact with her dad. I think he's remarried to a women whose name I wont disclose, and they had kids. I think nancys brothers and sisters think nancys dad considers his new kids from the new wife more his kids than nancy and her brothers and sisters. As I said nancy took care of phillips sick mother. Phills sick mother, I'm pretty sure has a sister whom was also sick, but I think she passed away recently. They kept this information of the passing from phills mom at first because her and her sister were very very close.

sorry you have insecurities, but my intention was not as in HAHA i know something you don't so please take that out of the universe as that is not what I said. It was more haha, i dont know you people or who reads this forum, and I'm not just going to throw everything on the table at one time in my first post because...like I said, its a public forum, and i dont know any of you or who is reading it.

It was just plain i wont tell you my sources with the side bar point of her family is an innocent party so their names don't need to be plastered on a web forum. With another side bar point of, me, being willing to answer your questions if there were any........cuz I am able to answer them...but so far no one has asked still so maybe you don't have any questions u wanted answered.

But if you are going to take offence to something I said, twist it, when I didnt intend anything in a rude way...than i'll just take my info else where and you guys can go waste your time matching names on intellus.com for whatever reasons you feel........i guess its your hobby.

so forget about little old me......continue on with your witch hunt without me.
I was just asking for her place of birth. Some reports say Phillipines while others believe it was Texas.

You seem to have an awful lot of personal information about her. Are you a close friend of the family or a relative?

BTW, are you the one who is claiming to have haxed Nancy's Talent Blog? Same name. So just wondering...

Maz

[minazoe]

:waitasec: So which is it.. because in your previous post you said:


that is not my post.

[Disguiseduser0308]

Oh, so sorry, had a crossed eye moment. I'll edit. Sorry again.

[Disguiseduser0308]

that is not my post.

Ok, Minazoe, deleted that post so you weren't misread/misquoted. I got so fired up I wasn't seeing straight for a moment there. Please accept my apologies.

[Mazama]

Here is the link to Nancy's Talent Revealed Blog. She was basically asking for money for her husbands music.

Caution: Foul language at site by someone who claims to have haxed the account.

http://talentrevealed.blogspot.com/

Maz

[Disguiseduser0308]

Here is the link to Nancy's Talent Revealed Blog. She was basically asking for money for her husbands music.

Caution: Foul language at sight by someone who claims to have haxed the account.

http://talentrevealed.blogspot.com/

Maz

Is this the same W****L that was just banned from WS? Hmmm.. me thinks it's a bad idea to note when you hack a site, but what do I know?

[Mazama]

Is this the same W****L that was just banned from WS? Hmmm.. me thinks it's a bad idea to note when you hack a site, but what do I know?
It sure appears that way...lol.

Maz

[Mazama]

i keep asking what you want to know, and still no questions....but what my sources are haha. I wont tell you my sources, all I can say is that they are 100% correct.

I already have all the names of all of her family. and their birthdays and locations. It's all irrelavent because they are innocent parties.

Heres a bone. The names of jaycees daughters arnt just Angel and Starlet....they are Angel Amber & Starlet Gabriel.


Nancy took care of phills sick mother...she had parkinsons.


Nancy spoke with her family after reconnecting about her family, filling in her long lost brothers and sisters with information about her life now, telling them she even has three kids now...three daughters. Nancy herself, refered to the kids as her own. And unless phillip was right at her back with a gun to her head telling her what to say......she didnt sound tooooo robotic as the press makes her out to be, she freely spoke about how she misses her sister, and her brother...and her family and mother. Spoke freely about her 3 kids to them. I can tell you this, her brother is not a broncos fan, and nancy made a joke to him on a postcard saying "go broncos!" (my point is that does not come off to me as very robotic, unless shes a good actress..but maybe)

her family also was in the now about her printing business.

so basicly in a nut shell shes creates a "im married to phill, lifes great, have 3 kids, the printing business...blah blah"

Just an fyi...a quick Google of the names this guy claims is Jaycee's daughters comes back to A: Starlet Gabriel - Gabriel Obertan aka the starlet Gabriel a french footballer and B: Angel Amber, a type of flower also a name used by a porn actress.

Maz

[songline]

Police particularly want to question Mrs Garrido about the four months in the summer of 1993 when her husband went back to prison for breaking parole. Jaycee was 13 and, according to court documents, already the victim of multiple rapes at the hands of both Mrs Garrido and her husband.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6816431.ece

Maz

SHE is as bad as he is...Robot or not, stupid or not, dehumanized or not, she is trash....
She had 4 months in 1993 when she could have set poor little Jaycee free but did not do that.
She is a piece of chit in my book, a real piece of garbage. I hope her punishment will be steep.

[Mazama]

SHE is as bad as he is...Robot or not, stupid or not, dehumanized or not, she is trash....
She had 4 months in 1993 when she could have set poor little Jaycee free but did not do that.
She is a piece of chit in my book, a real piece of garbage. I hope her punishment will be steep.

I totally agree...

Maz

[songline]

I have my sources. They are confirmed. I'm not sure what you all are looking for tho.

since you have your sources.
while her despicable husband was in prison in 1993 why didn't she let poor Jaycee free?
Can you tell us that? I do not give a chit about her BD or the girls real names.
I do not men to be rude...I just rather know why she is such a horrible person.
What made her that way?

His father blamed drugs on his condition...
(I do not buy too much of that either, but I do agree that drugs do mess up a mind).

what is her excuse for being a piece of chit....

[SoCalSleuth]

Why was w3as3L banned?

[snappyturtle]

I found this about her hacked email account. Not sure if it is real.
http://www.halo3forum.com/complete-off-topic/272385-phillip-garrido-email-hack-idea-dodgy-jaycee-kidnapper-4.html

#1
Hey Sis,
Kids? I did not know you had kids. I will let everybody know you said hi. xxxxxx and xxxx are doing good.
xxxxxx and i went to xxxxxxxx to visit dad and xxxxxx. xxxxxx was in a really bad car accident.
She has several broken bones and may lose her left eye. xxxx is now working at the mines with me.
As for xxxxx and xxxx I don't see much of them, they never return my calls. And MOTHER is another
story I rather not talk about!!!!! I have my own family thats all that matters. I em so happy to hear from you .
We are getting to old not to keep in touch. I hope one day we can get the chance to visit.

Love you Sis

#2
Hi sis, Sorry it took so long to reply. We were having problems with our E Mail
Yes we got your brochure.No you did not scare us away.I talked to xxxxxx. As far as i Know she not mad at you. Her E Mail address is xxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
xxx is doing good. xxxxx is in a rehab center. xxxxxxx and the girls have asked about you. I've told them I miss you
and I hope some day they can meet you. My birthday is 08/04/xx. xxxxx is 09/10/xx, xxxxx I think is in March,xxxxx is in October ? xxxxxx in June ? xxxx in April. Hope to here from you soon.
Love (nancys brother) name withheld

#3
Wanted to say hello and that I am really glad that you took the time to send me an e-mail ....thanks! Both xxxx and I are in pretty good health. I don't know how much xxx has told you, but we have had an empty nest for several years. xxxxxxxx makes his home in Arvada along with his girlfriend xxxx. We see them 2 or 3 times a year. In fact we will be seeing them in a couple of wks. for the holiday. There's so much to say and to ask but will keep it current for now.There are no hard or hurt feelings...just that we lost touch after your move out west.

Send me your home address and will send some photos. My fone #:xxxxxxxxx
Address: xxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxx TX. xxxxxxx.

Keep the e-mails coming and give us your babies names.


I love you.
Take care and GOD BLESS!


(nancys sisters name withheld).

#4
hEY SISTER,
i,M SO HAPPY TO HEAR FROM REY THAT YOU ARE NOT MAD AT ME.
hOW HAVE YOU BEEN DOING ARE YOU STILL MARRIED AS FOR ME
I'm VERY MARRIED .WE HAVE OUR OWN BUSINESS CALLED PRINTING
4 LESS. WE HAVE THREE GIRLS RAGING FROM TEN YEARS THUR TWENTY SIX. LET ME HEAR FROM YOU i GET REGULAR EMAIL FROM
REY HEAR FROM OUR BROTHERS NOW AND THEN REMEBER iWAS
NEVER MAD AT YOU OR ANYBODY. LOVE YOU NANCY

[snappyturtle]

I wonder what Ms. Molino will have to say when and if it is determined that Garrido is responsible for those deaths, and particularly for the one you mentioned. Will she still be singing his praises?

I was browsing Phillip Garrido’s blog and in the comments among all of the threats was a link to this site:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4751151745311616135&postID=8123069408507170406

starlet said...
www.starletangelfoundation.webs.com

I left a comment listing the appropriate place for donations and received this email:

"From: messages@webs.com on behalf of welovestareletangel@gmail.com
Sent: Tue 9/01/09 4:10 AM
To: xyz@hotmail.com
Hello xyz@hotmail.com,

Thanks for leaving a comment on http://starletangelfoundation.webs.com/!

Would you like to contribute, share thoughts with other site members and receive occasional email updates on site activity? If so, then click here to join: Yes, I'd like to join this site

Looking forward to seeing you back on the site.

- cheyvonne molino


cheyvonne molino

PS: If you don't want to join this site, click here: Sorry, I don't want to join this site right now"

Seems like she is very likely the person to have leaked the photos and names of Jaycee’s girls.

Here is an article about Cheyvonne Molino’s odd behavior (it includes a picture):
http://www.hicktownpress.com/

According to this video, one of the murdered prostitutes (probably Jessica Fredericks) was found impaled on the front gate of JM Enterprises. This is the same place that’s owned by Cheyvonne and her husband and where Garrido had set up a tent to preach outside!!:
http://cbs5.com/video/?id=54682@kpix.dayport.com
She talks in her inerviews about his “normal behavior” and ability to talk with his mind using a machine. Unlike the others that signed affidavits on his site, she doesn't back track and mentions the machine he uses as though it is a completely normal thing. She really comes off as being supportive of him.

Someone named Mohammed Niaz was actually arrested and released for Fredericks murder when police botched a search that turned up her blood in his home.

[MissOtk]

wait, what? Molino is accepting donations on behalf of the girls? This POS needs her own thread. Im having a hard time keeping up with her shenanigans:)

[Mazama]

wait, what? Molino is accepting donations on behalf of the girls? This POS needs her own thread. Im having a hard time keeping up with her shenanigans:)
Sounds hinky to me...

Maz

[snappyturtle]

wait, what? Molino is accepting donations on behalf of the girls? This POS needs her own thread. Im having a hard time keeping up with her shenanigans:)

Her site is mostly blank except the names of the girls and the comments section. So I can't say for 100% sure that she will try to use the site to make money, but given what I've read about her so far, that would be my guess.

My comment about donations was a comment that I left on her site to let people have the official information regarding donations for Jaycee.

[Pink Panther]

I hope this woman is fried alive on a skillet in ehll.

clear enuff?

MOO

[thefragile7393]

His father blamed drugs on his condition...
(I do not buy too much of that either, but I do agree that drugs do mess up a mind).

Severe drug use (LSD especially) can do a lot....and if someone is already mentally ill the drugs will make what's already imbalanced even worse. I don't think he's insane by any means (just like Charles Manson isn't insane) but he IS nutso among other more polite adjectives.

[Mazama]

I was browsing Phillip Garrido’s blog and in the comments among all of the threats was a link to this site:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4751151745311616135&postID=8123069408507170406

starlet said...
www.starletangelfoundation.webs.com (http://www.starletangelfoundation.webs.com)

I left a comment listing the appropriate place for donations and received this email:

"From: messages@webs.com on behalf of welovestareletangel@gmail.com
Sent: Tue 9/01/09 4:10 AM
To: xyz@hotmail.com
Hello xyz@hotmail.com,

Thanks for leaving a comment on http://starletangelfoundation.webs.com/!

Would you like to contribute, share thoughts with other site members and receive occasional email updates on site activity? If so, then click here to join: Yes, I'd like to join this site

Looking forward to seeing you back on the site.

- cheyvonne molino


cheyvonne molino

PS: If you don't want to join this site, click here: Sorry, I don't want to join this site right now"



<snipped>
I went to the website http://www.starletangelfoundation.webs.com/ and read the guestbook...someone named wweeeezzel has made a couple posts including one with a whois result.

Maz

[songline]

wait, what? molino is accepting donations on behalf of the girls? this pos needs her own thread. Im having a hard time keeping up with her shenanigans:)


this cant be legal

[songline]

severe drug use (lsd especially) can do a lot....and if someone is already mentally ill the drugs will make what's already imbalanced even worse. I don't think he's insane by any means (just like charles manson isn't insane) but he is nutso among other more polite adjectives.
true.

[adnoid]

...I do agree that drugs do mess up a mind...

Just look at me.

[Fairy1]

I wish more people who knew NG would come forward with info. I'm beginning to wonder if SHE was the one that was locked up in the shed!!!

[Dani_md]

I wish more people who knew NG would come forward with info. I'm beginning to wonder if SHE was the one that was locked up in the shed!!!

After hearing what his first wife said I wouldn't doubt it! Has the neighbors or anybody really even mentioned her in interviews. All I know of is PG brother.

[LillyRush]

After hearing what his first wife said I wouldn't doubt it! Has the neighbors or anybody really even mentioned her in interviews. All I know of is PG brother.

The now infamous Cheyvonne Milano is the only neighbor who I've read or heard make any reference to Nancy.

[snappyturtle]

I wish more people who knew NG would come forward with info. I'm beginning to wonder if SHE was the one that was locked up in the shed!!!

Nancy and Jaycee were alone for 4 months while Jaycee was still a child and Phillip was in jail on parole violations. As far as we know Nancy could have left or reported the abuse at that time and chose not to.

I also read in the Contra Costa newspaper that Nancy was not immediately arressted. She was taken into custody shortly after detectives interviewed Jaycee. So it sounds like the cops confirmed that she had an active role before arresting her.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/jayceedugard/ci_13240607?nclick_check=1

[tut med]

this morning on CBS morning show- Nancy's attorney was whining about having to see his client through glass-he hasn't been able to form a relationship with her. He is going to need professional help to get to the bottom of the story. When asked if his client is a victim or a crinimal---oh she is a victim

yeah right

[SWAG1959]

I knew it - I KNEW IT - that is going to be the defense of this subhuman female.

Well, ok - what about the 4 months he was BACK IN prison? The 4 months that she had to take Jaycee and go to the authorities and say 'WE'RE BOTH VICTIMS!!!"

Nope, ain't buying it. She's in this up to her eyeballs and she ain't playin' no "victim" card.

[Patty G]

September 2, 2009
Today Show

YouTube - Nancy Garrido's Attorney 9/2/09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Cy7GraZy8)

[songline]

Just look at me.
LOL...If looking at you is a sign of a certain drug...
What are you on...I WANT SOME...lol

[pferrin]

Yep..Her lawyer says she misses the girls....Wonder what she misses aboout the children..her raping them or her husband raping them.

She is lower than whale poop.

He also says that she understands why she is locked up...good..that is the first step towards proving she is mentally competent to stand trial.

[songline]

this morning on CBS morning show- Nancy's attorney was whining about having to see his client through glass-he hasn't been able to form a relationship with her. He is going to need professional help to get to the bottom of the story. When asked if his client is a victim or a crinimal---oh she is a victim

yeah right
I too believe she was a victim but BY CHOICE>
She had 4 months during his incarceration to seek help for her and Jaycee.
So IMHO fry her...And if this attorney is going to assume any position to help her...Fry him too.:furious:

[Trino]

I too believe she was a victim but BY CHOICE>
She had 4 months during his incarceration to seek help for her and Jaycee.
So IMHO fry her...And if this attorney is going to assume any position to help her...Fry him too.:furious:

No sense attorney bashing. The law states she has to be defended by someone, and there's no attorney that's going to state she's guilty. Her attorney is being paid TO DEFEND her.

[nobody2]

So, I am not aware of the etiquette of banning, that person with the "inside info" did seem to have an explanation for the "haha" comment, and he/she did have some information he/she was apparently willing to share, does anyone know what they were banned for?
I'm not arguing or criticising that it happened, I just wondered why?

[adnoid]

So, I am not aware of the etiquette of banning, that person with the "inside info" did seem to have an explanation for the "haha" comment, and he/she did have some information he/she was apparently willing to share, does anyone know what they were banned for?
I'm not arguing or criticising that it happened, I just wondered why?

Just as moderators here would not publicly discuss their interactions with you, we don't publicly discuss our interactions with others. The purpose of the forum is to discuss the case, not each other.

Anyway, I don't see how someone from Tampa Bay, FL. could be that close to the recent events.

[ChaCha]

YouTube - Nancy Garrido's Lawyer: She Is a Victim

[nobody2]

Just as moderators here would not publicly discuss their interactions with you, we don't publicly discuss our interactions with others. The purpose of the forum is to discuss the case, not each other.

Anyway, I don't see how someone from Tampa Bay, FL. could be that close to the recent events.

Gotcha, and thank you for responding.

[DollyPardonMe]

I too believe she was a victim but BY CHOICE>
She had 4 months during his incarceration to seek help for her and Jaycee.
So IMHO fry her...And if this attorney is going to assume any position to help her...Fry him too.:furious:

I believe her first mistake was 18 years ago when she snatched Jaycee off the street. PG was driving the car and it was NG who jumped out to get Jaycee. She could have told her to run or botched it if she really wanted to. PLUS, she has had 18 years to make it right. I don't think for one minute PG had her locked up the whole 18 years too!!

[citypat]

It appears Garrido's 1993 parole violation resulted in home confinement and not being sent back to prison...according to federal prison officials.

Garrido appears to have been home the whole time in 1993.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_13246289

The amount of inaccurate reporting concerning this case is becoming alarming.

[Mazama]

It appears Garrido's 1993 parole violation resulted in home confinement and not being sent back to prison...according to federal prison officials.

Garrido appears to have been home the whole time in 1993.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_13246289

The amount of inaccurate reporting concerning this case is becoming alarming.

I'd like to know which records are correct.

This one:

A violation of Garrido’s parole conditions sent him back to federal prison in California from April to August of 1993, records show. But Dick Carelli, spokesman for the federal Office of Court Administration, did not know what Garrido did to violate parole.

http://www.rgj.com/article/20090828/NEWS/90828055/1321

or the one you linked? Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

:cow:

Maz

[citypat]

I'd like to know which records are correct.

This one:

A violation of Garrido’s parole conditions sent him back to federal prison in California from April to August of 1993, records show. But Dick Carelli, spokesman for the federal Office of Court Administration, did not know what Garrido did to violate parole.

http://www.rgj.com/article/20090828/NEWS/90828055/1321

or the one you linked? Right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing?

:cow:

Maz

I am going to lean on the most recent one released that I linked due to the amount of interest this case is recieving. Your link is dated 8/28/09.

I am still suprised they haven't announced what the parole violation was. That could turn out to be most interesting.

CYA most definately occuring as we speak

[songline]

I believe her first mistake was 18 years ago when she snatched Jaycee off the street. PG was driving the car and it was NG who jumped out to get Jaycee. She could have told her to run or botched it if she really wanted to. PLUS, she has had 18 years to make it right. I don't think for one minute PG had her locked up the whole 18 years too!!
ITA but just in case she was a robot....
there were 4 months to think things through and disappear along with Giving Jaycee freedom.
But you are correct that it was her first mistake in this case.

[songline]

I am going to lean on the most recent one released that I linked due to the amount of interest this case is recieving. Your link is dated 8/28/09.

I am still suprised they haven't announced what the parole violation was. That could turn out to be most interesting.

CYA most definitely occuring as we speak
It would also put a bad eye on LE and they don't want that.
so they are controling some of what is coming out. JMO
Just as they are not ashamed to say that PO did a good job...:rolleyes:

[songline]

It appears Garrido's 1993 parole violation resulted in home confinement and not being sent back to prison...according to federal prison officials.

Garrido appears to have been home the whole time in 1993.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_13246289

The amount of inaccurate reporting concerning this case is becoming alarming.
I am not trusting LE in this case....
18 years a PO went to visit this perp and came up with nothing?

[MarioMangler]

The amount of inaccurate reporting concerning this case is becoming alarming.

I agree with this, but at the same time I am not necessarily surprised by it. The general rule in major true crime cases (like plane crashes, Columbine, etc.) is "never believe anything you hear in the first 72 hours." Because that's when the media takes any little rumor they have, and they run with it. I mean my goodness, we're now 10 years after Columbine, and people STILL believe most of the "facts" that came out those first couple of days.

So while it is disturbing that some of the media facts are starting to contradict themselves on this story, you do have to understand that this is just the way that sensational breaking crime stories work. The more sensational aspects (backyard parties, additional victims, etc.) are always going to get the most press. It's possible that there is much more to this case than meets the eye, but I'd give this story about 3-4 weeks before I would 100% believe anything.

[SoCalSleuth]

What NG did was horrific by any standard. That said, clearly there is mental illness of some kind of NG and PG at play here. PG's first wife said basically she tried to escape at every opportunity once they were married and finally got her chance when he was imprisoned. We know nothing of what went on between PG & NG. Perhaps NG was also suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Perhaps she is the incarnation of evil. The bottom line is, she may be a monster or she may also be a victim--we just don't know yet. Even SH helped his captor kidnap another boy. Is he evil? No. He did it to survive his unimaginable situation. Just saying we shouldn't start condemning anyone until all the facts are known.

[songline]

What NG did was horrific by any standard. That said, clearly there is mental illness of some kind of NG and PG at play here. PG's first wife said basically she tried to escape at every opportunity once they were married and finally got her chance when he was imprisoned. We know nothing of what went on between PG & NG. Perhaps NG was also suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Perhaps she is the incarnation of evil. The bottom line is, she may be a monster or she may also be a victim--we just don't know yet. Even SH helped his captor kidnap another boy. Is he evil? No. He did it to survive his unimaginable situation. Just saying we shouldn't start condemning anyone until all the facts are known.
But one of the facts have the SOB incarcerated for 4 months;
Just like his first wife escaped while he was incarcerated Nancy could have set the kid free and escaped too. She did not....IMHO even if you will tell me she is a robot, I will say a dangerous robot, that should be in jail for the rest of her life.
someone did point out that she could have botched up the kidnapping 18 years ago by pretending to nab the kid, and she could have told her run home fast. this does not mean he would not have try it again. It only means that hse had chances....

[SoCalSleuth]

But one of the facts have the SOB incarcerated for 4 months;
Just like his first wife escaped while he was incarcerated Nancy could have set the kid free and escaped too. She did not....IMHO even if you will tell me she is a robot, I will say a dangerous robot, that should be in jail for the rest of her life.
someone did point out that she could have botched up the kidnapping 18 years ago by pretending to nab the kid, and she could have told her run home fast. this does not mean he would not have try it again. It only means that hse had chances....

Well, first, I don't believe he was incarcerated--I believe he was on home confinement. California normally doesn't incarcerate for parole violations. In any event, I think your post missed my point that we don't know what was going on here with NG. If she were suffering from a mental disorder or if she were suffering from a type of Stockholm Syndrome--it wouldn't have mattered if he were in prison or at home--she wouldn't have done anything--very much the same way that Jaycee had opportunities and didn't take them. Just trying to say to hold off on judgment until we know all the facts. That's what I love about this forum--it's great to get everyone's take on the situation!

[LinasK]

What NG did was horrific by any standard. That said, clearly there is mental illness of some kind of NG and PG at play here. PG's first wife said basically she tried to escape at every opportunity once they were married and finally got her chance when he was imprisoned. We know nothing of what went on between PG & NG. Perhaps NG was also suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. Perhaps she is the incarnation of evil. The bottom line is, she may be a monster or she may also be a victim--we just don't know yet. Even SH helped his captor kidnap another boy. Is he evil? No. He did it to survive his unimaginable situation. Just saying we shouldn't start condemning anyone until all the facts are known.
We know for a fact that Nancy visited and married him in prison, knowing he was a convicted rapist and kidnapper. Anybody who willing chooses that for a spouse already has major problems!

[Shari_Gal]

Her lawyer acknowledges that Nancy Garrido did keep Jaycee a prisoner during that time:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8468178

Her defense lawyer is trying to make out that Nancy is also a victim (B.S. in my op since Nancy Garrido is the one who dragged Jaycee into the car in 1991, according to her Jaycee's stepfather & other eyewitnesses to the kidnapping)

[Shari_Gal]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8468178

Her defense lawyer is trying to make out that Nancy is also a victim (B.S. in my o.p, since Nancy Garrido is the one who dragged Jaycee into the car in 1991, according to Jaycee's stepfather & other eyewitnesses to the kidnapping)

[joga]

so i guess this decides the did he get sent back to prison or not debate. if her attorney is confirming that she kept her while he went back, then i believe he did return to prison. it doesn't benefit her in any way to say that otherwise, in fact it makes her look worse. IMO

[SoCalSleuth]

We know for a fact that Nancy visited and married him in prison, knowing he was a convicted rapist and kidnapper. Anybody who willing chooses that for a spouse already has major problems!

Exactly! Obviously she had a screw loose to begin with. I think it's also interesting that she met him while visiting a relative in prison. This says alot about her family and her background. It will be interesting to find out exactly what is up with this woman.

[LinasK]

Exactly! Obviously she had a screw loose to begin with. I think it's also interesting that she met him while visiting a relative in prison. This says alot about her family and her background. It will be interesting to find out exactly what is up with this woman.
I'd be interested in knowing exactly what her uncle was serving time in Leavenworth for...

[SoCalSleuth]

Her lawyer acknowledges that Nancy Garrido did keep Jaycee a prisoner during that time:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8468178

Her defense lawyer is trying to make out that Nancy is also a victim (B.S. in my op since Nancy Garrido is the one who dragged Jaycee into the car in 1991, according to her Jaycee's stepfather & other eyewitnesses to the kidnapping)

Again, SH rode his bicycle around free and didn't seek help, he had an encounter with police while he was out with a friend and didn't seek help, he even visited his own missing website and left a comment. SH also helped his captor kidnap a little boy--although he knew the boy was going to endure what he had endured himself for 4 years. Does that make SH any less a victim? No, of course not. Perhaps NG was an abused person herself--perhaps she sought an abuser for a husband--thereby repeating the cycle as it is so often repeated. We do know that she worked at an abused children's center. Why? We don't know anything about this woman's psyche--although I think we can all agree that she has mental issues.

[LinasK]

Again, SH rode his bicycle around free and didn't seek help, he had an encounter with police while he was out with a friend and didn't seek help, he even visited his own missing website and left a comment. SH also helped his captor kidnap a little boy--although he knew the boy was going to endure what he had endured himself for 4 years. Does that make SH any less a victim? No, of course not. Perhaps NG was an abused person herself--perhaps she sought an abuser for a husband--thereby repeating the cycle as it is so often repeated. We do know that she worked at an abused children's center. Why? We don't know anything about this woman's psyche--although I think we can all agree that she has mental issues.
True, but my point was that since she willingly married him, it wasn't out of fear, so I don't think you can say she was a victim of Stockholm Syndrome in the way that Shawn was and Jaycee probably went through.

[citypat]

so i guess this decides the did he get sent back to prison or not debate. if her attorney is confirming that she kept her while he went back, then i believe he did return to prison. it doesn't benefit her in any way to say that otherwise, in fact it makes her look worse. IMO


Not for me...yet, anyway.

I read that report this morning and the attorney said he only met w/ NG twice for a short time. The ABC story strikes me as typical lazy reporting, w/ nothing cited to back up their claims.

The federal bureau of prison official report from yesterday states "records show Garrido served a period of supervised home confinement" in 1993 for a likely parole violation.

Why would they release that statement?

I am sure within the week it will be decided one way or another.
I still want to know what the PV was.

[Shari_Gal]

he was transferred home cofinement for the remainder of his sentence for the parole violation until August 1993.

"He was arrested again in Apr. 1993 because of another parole violation. The next month he was transferred to home detention and relieved of supervision in Aug. 1993."


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m9d1-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-case-Phillip-Garrido-admitted-he-was-overcome-by-fantasies-of-rape (http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner%7Ey2009m9d1-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-case-Phillip-Garrido-admitted-he-was-overcome-by-fantasies-of-rape)

When someone is found to have violated parole they are almost always taken into custody, not house arrest

A person can start out serving their sentence in prison, then finish the sentence in home confinement (maybe Garrido went back to court and told the judge he was needed at home to care for his aging mother)
Patricia)

I read in some article that his parole violation was for drug posession.

[SoCalSleuth]

True, but my point was that since she willingly married him, it wasn't out of fear, so I don't think you can say she was a victim of Stockholm Syndrome in the way that Shawn was and Jaycee probably went through.

I absolutely agree with you that she would not have been suffering from stockholm syndrome at the time she married him. But clearly someone is not right with someone's pscyhe who willingly marries a convicted kidnapper rapist. On the other hand, PG convinced a judge and parole board that he reformed, who knows what he told NG. I'm still at a loss that PG was ever paroled. It's known that rapists will continue to rape. It's known that there is no cure for pedophilia--although his first victim wasn't a minor. Why are sexual offenders let out of prison? I've never understood this and I will never understand this.

[ChasingMoxie]

Not for me...yet, anyway.

I read that report this morning and the attorney said he only met w/ NG twice for a short time. The ABC story strikes me as typical lazy reporting, w/ nothing cited to back up their claims.

The federal bureau of prison official report from yesterday states "records show Garrido served a period of supervised home confinement" in 1993 for a likely parole violation.

Why would they release that statement?

I am sure within the week it will be decided one way or another.
I still want to know what the PV was.

It doesn't matter to me whether he served at home or not; if he had a parole violation they would have to have taken him in at the time of the violation until they determined sentencing, right? Even if he came back home the very next day she still had time to run for help. She had an opportunity and a responsibility to do so and she didn't do it because she is nothing but a vicious waste of a person. She took that little girl and she will pay now or later for the decisions that she has made. She chose this path and she better just suck it up and beg for her life because no amount of tears is going to save her now.

[adnoid]

We know for a fact that Nancy visited and married him in prison, knowing he was a convicted rapist and kidnapper. Anybody who willing chooses that for a spouse already has major problems!

I mean really.

You go to prison to visit your uncle, and what? He says "Sweetie, I'd like you to meet my new friend Phil the Rapist, I think you two would make a cute couple"? And she DOES get involved with him? How many poor choices can we have in one place at one time? "So, what's your idea of a good first date? Hold hands? Walk on the beach?" "No, I think I'll tie you up, drag you back to my storage unit and rape you repeatedly, like I did with my last 'date'". "Great, sounds like fun!"

It would be like me trying to score a date with Lorena Bobbit and bringing her a set of steak knives as a gift to seal the deal.

[Velouria]

Her lawyer acknowledges that Nancy Garrido did keep Jaycee a prisoner during that time:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8468178

Her defense lawyer is trying to make out that Nancy is also a victim (B.S. in my op since Nancy Garrido is the one who dragged Jaycee into the car in 1991, according to her Jaycee's stepfather & other eyewitnesses to the kidnapping)


Awwww...

for Nancy :boohoo:

She KNEW exactly what he was when she married him. This wasn't a case of someone who started out as Prince Charming only to turn into Mr. Hyde.

She willingly participated in Jaycee's kidnapping and kept her imprisoned while her scumbag hubby was in prison. For FIVE MONTHS.

Karla Holmolka claimed she was a lovestruck victim of Paul Bernardo, and we all know how THAT one turned out. Nancy deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars.

[Mazama]

Awwww...

for Nancy :boohoo:

She KNEW exactly what he was when she married him. This wasn't a case of someone who started out as Prince Charming only to turn into Mr. Hyde.

She willingly participated in Jaycee's kidnapping and kept her imprisoned while her scumbag hubby was in prison. For FIVE YEARS.

<snipped>

At this point it is being reported that Garrido was in prison for 1 month while she kept Jaycee captive, not five years.

:cow:

Maz

[joga]

Awwww...

for Nancy :boohoo:

She KNEW exactly what he was when she married him. This wasn't a case of someone who started out as Prince Charming only to turn into Mr. Hyde.

She willingly participated in Jaycee's kidnapping and kept her imprisoned while her scumbag hubby was in prison. For FIVE YEARS.

Karla Holmolka claimed she was a lovestruck victim of Paul Bernardo, and we all know how THAT one turned out. Nancy deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars.

yeah, Karla played them perfectly didn't she? out with a new fam and everything! i hope that is not the case with Nancy. if this were two men charged with what they have been charged with, i don't think we'd all even be having this discussion. but because she's a woman, she's considered weak...she MUST have been controlled by him, she MUST have been abused either in childhood or by him. bleh... i feel there is such a double standard when it comes to perps. man vs. woman.

PS - she didn't have her alone for five years....it was one month (that's the latest report anyway!)

[Pink Panther]

yeah, Karla played them perfectly didn't she? out with a new fam and everything! i hope that is not the case with Nancy. if this were two men charged with what they have been charged with, i don't think we'd all even be having this discussion. but because she's a woman, she's considered weak...she MUST have been controlled by him, she MUST have been abused either in childhood or by him. bleh... i feel there is such a double standard when it comes to perps. man vs. woman.

PS - she didn't have her alone for five years....it was one month (that's the latest report anyway!)

She's a warped POS just like her husband. I hold her EVEN MORE accountable for whatever her role is given that she's a woman. She deserves to rot behind bars for eternity. Already on this thread, with next to no information, there are pity pleas calling out SH syndrome and the like. Give me a break! This woman aided and abetted for friggin'18 years!

MOO

[thefragile7393]

She's a warped POS just like her husband. I hold her EVEN MORE accountable for whatever her role is given that she's a woman. She deserves to rot behind bars for eternity. Already on this thread, with next to no information, there are pity pleas calling out SH syndrome and the like. Give me a break! This woman aided and abetted for friggin'18 years!

MOO
A lot of us are trying to figure out WHY. Things are rarely black and white, and with this woman there seems to be no exception. No one is arguing that she shouldn't be punished for her role in all of this, far from it. Regardless of her mental state, she needs to be behind bars for a long time, if not forever. We're trying to figure out why she would go along with this, why she would be an accessory to this. Women are supposed to be (by biological nature) the nurturers, the caregivers. So what made her go along with all of this? It IS possible that you can be a victim and a perp or an enabler at the same time, and while I don't see a lot of blatant sympathy, I do see a lot of people struggling to understand or at least see why things happened, but no pity for her actions or what she has allowed to happen. Trying to understand or see why or how someone did the things they did isn't the same as pitying them or sympathizing with them.

[Pink Panther]

A lot of us are trying to figure out WHY. Things are rarely black and white, and with this woman there seems to be no exception. No one is arguing that she shouldn't be punished for her role in all of this, far from it. Regardless of her mental state, she needs to be behind bars for a long time, if not forever. We're trying to figure out why she would go along with this, why she would be an accessory to this. Women are supposed to be (by biological nature) the nurturers, the caregivers. So what made her go along with all of this? It IS possible that you can be a victim and a perp or an enabler at the same time, and while I don't see a lot of blatant sympathy, I do see a lot of people struggling to understand or at least see why things happened, but no pity for her actions or what she has allowed to happen. Trying to understand or see why or how someone did the things they did isn't the same as pitying them or sympathizing with them.
Uh huh. Sure. I understand. I wonder why there isn't discussion regarding why HE did what he did? Why's that? Maybe he was abused and molested as a child? That's possible isn't it? Maybe his mother (the woman who lived there for about 15 years of this whole ordeal) was a warped individual who abused and belittled her son his entire life?

Uh huh. It's all possible. We should give the same regard to both sides then, shouldn't we?

I haven't seen a single discussion about SH syndrome regarding him yet.

JMO

[Mazama]

Uh huh. Sure. I understand. I wonder why there isn't discussion regarding why HE did what he did? Why's that? Maybe he was abused and molested as a child? That's possible isn't it? Maybe his mother (the woman who lived there for about 15 years of this whole ordeal) was a warped individual who abused and belittled her son his entire life?

Uh huh. It's all possible. We should give the same regard to both sides then, shouldn't we?

I haven't seen a single discussion about SH syndrome regarding him yet.

JMO

Stockholm syndrome is seen in people who have been abducted and are held hostage and form a type of relationship with their captors. Garrido to the best of my knowledge wasn't held captive by anyone or abducted by anyone. There is a thread about Phillip Gallido here:

Phillip Garrido- prior offenses and background information - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Maybe there is more information there or discussions you can participate in.

Hope this helps.

Maz

[Fairy1]

Uh huh. Sure. I understand. I wonder why there isn't discussion regarding why HE did what he did? Why's that? Maybe he was abused and molested as a child? That's possible isn't it? Maybe his mother (the woman who lived there for about 15 years of this whole ordeal) was a warped individual who abused and belittled her son his entire life?

Uh huh. It's all possible. We should give the same regard to both sides then, shouldn't we?

I haven't seen a single discussion about SH syndrome regarding him yet.

JMO

Actually, PG's family has explained his behavior as being the result of a head injury and too much LSD taken in his youth. His own brother stated that PG could never do any wrong in his mother's eyes, so it certainly doesn't sound as though he is a product of an evil mother.

I will say this, I'm not a big fan of assuming that a woman in Nancy's situation did what she did because she was abused. By her stepfather's eyewitness account, Nancy was the one that grabbed Jaycee and pulled her into the car. Nancy had at least one looooooooong opportunity to let Jaycee go home and put an end to the horror, but she chose not to. Women can be every bit as evil and sick as men.

I'm already tired of seeing her referred to in news stories as "The Kidnapper's Wife." As far as I'm concerned she is a kidnapping rapist too and I will not cut her any breaks unless something major occurs to change my mind.

[Californian]

I was browsing Phillip Garrido’s blog and in the comments among all of the threats was a link to this site:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4751151745311616135&postID=8123069408507170406

starlet said...
www.starletangelfoundation.webs.com

I left a comment listing the appropriate place for donations and received this email:

"From: messages@webs.com on behalf of welovestareletangel@gmail.com
Sent: Tue 9/01/09 4:10 AM
To: xyz@hotmail.com
Hello xyz@hotmail.com,

Thanks for leaving a comment on http://starletangelfoundation.webs.com/!

Would you like to contribute, share thoughts with other site members and receive occasional email updates on site activity? If so, then click here to join: Yes, I'd like to join this site

Looking forward to seeing you back on the site.

- cheyvonne molino


cheyvonne molino

PS: If you don't want to join this site, click here: Sorry, I don't want to join this site right now"

Seems like she is very likely the person to have leaked the photos and names of Jaycee’s girls.

Here is an article about Cheyvonne Molino’s odd behavior (it includes a picture):
http://www.hicktownpress.com/

According to this video, one of the murdered prostitutes (probably Jessica Fredericks) was found impaled on the front gate of JM Enterprises. This is the same place that’s owned by Cheyvonne and her husband and where Garrido had set up a tent to preach outside!!:
http://cbs5.com/video/?id=54682@kpix.dayport.com
She talks in her inerviews about his “normal behavior” and ability to talk with his mind using a machine. Unlike the others that signed affidavits on his site, she doesn't back track and mentions the machine he uses as though it is a completely normal thing. She really comes off as being supportive of him.



I find this an incredibly useful post, and cross-referenced it in the Cheyvonne Molino thread.

Also, once again, Jaycee's sister Shayna has said, there is only ONE true organization to donate to on the girl's behalf:

Jaycee Dugard Trust Fund
c/o Viewtech Financial Services
P.O. Box 596
Atwood, CA 92811

[LinasK]

By John Simerman
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 09/02/2009 05:16:13 PM PDT
Updated: 09/02/2009 06:11:48 PM PDT
If she helped strip a young girl of her innocence and perpetrated a heinous, 18-year-long crime that has shocked the world, Nancy Garrido never showed it when she arrived at work to help people who couldn't help themselves.
Nancy Garrido worked as a state-licensed aide for a respected nonprofit agency that serves 1,000 adults and children with disabilities, mostly in Contra Costa County, even as police say she helped Phillip Garrido keep Jaycee Dugard isolated and under sexual attack for years, authorities say.
She worked full-time for Contra Costa ARC from December 1994 until March 1998, arriving with stellar references as a nursing aide and physical therapy aide, said Barbara Maizie, the agency's executive director.
"The people who received services through her, they liked her very much. She was a good employee and she was well-liked by the people she worked with," Maizie said. "They cannot believe that this is possible. They're totally shocked."
Maizie said Nancy Garrido worked with adults only. She arrived with a valid California Nurse Aide license, a history of nursing home work and a long résumé with both in-state and out-of-state references dating to 1981, Maizie said.
<snip>
When Nancy Garrido first came to work at the Martinez-based agency, Dugard was in her teens and having the first of two girls that Phillip Garrido fathered, living in a hidden backyard lair of tents and shacks behind the Garridos' Walnut Avenue house in unincorporated Contra Costa County, police say.
Among the 29 felony charges that El Dorado County prosecutors leveled against the couple last week is a count of forcible rape against Nancy Garrido from the month she began work at the agency, and six other counts of forcible rape against Nancy or Phillip Garrido during her tenure.
Both pleaded not guilty on Friday and are being held without bail.
Maizie declined to detail Nancy Garrido's personnel file, citing privacy concerns. She said the agency ran a state background check when it hired Garrido; it came back clean.
"Just 'shock' and 'disbelief' are the two words that come to mind," Maizie said of the allegations.
Maizie would not to say why Nancy Garrido left the agency. But a neighbor, Helen Boyer, 78, told The Associated Press that she stopped to become the primary caregiver to Phillip Garrido's bedridden mother, Patricia Franzen.
Boyer said she knew Franzen for more than 30 years and often saw Nancy Garrido.
Nancy Garrido's training could help explain how Dugard could deliver two babies and now have two healthy daughters, ages 11 and 15, even though authorities said none of them had seen a doctor.
A spokesman for the state Department of Public Health said Nancy Garrido was certified as a nurse assistant in California beginning in March 1989, until she failed to renew her license in 1995. Her training did not include assisting with childbirth, said spokesman Ken August. more at link: http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13255972

[adnoid]

I find this an incredibly useful post, and cross-referenced it in the Cheyvonne Molino thread....

...Anyway, I don't see how someone from Tampa Bay, FL. could be that close to the recent events.

Interesting that the second "member" in Molino's group is from Florida. Something's up, I think...

[mysteriew]

I had to laugh when I saw these words from Nancy's attorney.

"She was distraught. She was frightened. She seemed a little lost, all of those things. She seemed to be like a ship without a rudder, but she understood why she was there," Maines said.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8468178

She isn't 11. She isn't to be repeatedly forcibly raped. She knows where her family is, and knows that if they wish she can maintain contact with them (not Jaycee and the girls of course.) She knows why she was taken. She will have a warm dry cell. All things that Jaycee did not have at the time she was taken by Nancy Garrido. I love it when the perps whine about the same or lesser treatment than they gave their victims.

I believe that there is a battered wife syndrome, and I do believe that wives can be so under the control of an abusive husband that they will do almost anything he says. But even with that there is a line. And when an abused wife passes over between being a victim, to being a participant, maybe even a perpetrator herself then she loses my sympathy. When a wife ignores the abuse her husband perpatrates on her children, she is over the line. When a wife covers for the death of her child, by the abusive husband, she passed the line. When a wife assists in the kidnapping of a child, then she is past the line. She is definately a participant, and who knows if her words to the detectives come true, perhaps is even a perpetrator herself. Early reports indicated that a detective told Nancy Garrido that her husband was psychotic and was addicted to forcible sex, she allegedly replied with a question, something to the effect of what if that were her taste too?

Battered wife? Maybe. Or maybe she got her kicks that way, maybe she was into forcible sex. But maybe she wanted to be giver not the taker. Or maybe she wanted someone else to take for her. Any way you want to explain it, she doesn't get my sympathy. All she would have had to have done was to assist Jaycee in "running away" during the month or more that PG was in prison. That was all. But she couldn't and wouldn't do that, because she knew she was also guilty in the kidnapping.

[MissOtk]

Interesting that the second "member" in Molino's group is from Florida. Something's up, I think...

Nah...that was me joining Adnoid. I wanted to see if I would get a solicitation email. I didnt.

[Fairy1]

I had to laugh when I saw these words from Nancy's attorney.



She isn't 11. She isn't to be repeatedly forcibly raped. She knows where her family is, and knows that if they wish she can maintain contact with them (not Jaycee and the girls of course.) She knows why she was taken. She will have a warm dry cell. All things that Jaycee did not have at the time she was taken by Nancy Garrido. I love it when the perps whine about the same or lesser treatment than they gave their victims.

I believe that there is a battered wife syndrome, and I do believe that wives can be so under the control of an abusive husband that they will do almost anything he says. But even with that there is a line. And when an abused wife passes over between being a victim, to being a participant, maybe even a perpetrator herself then she loses my sympathy. When a wife ignores the abuse her husband perpatrates on her children, she is over the line. When a wife covers for the death of her child, by the abusive husband, she passed the line. When a wife assists in the kidnapping of a child, then she is past the line. She is definately a participant, and who knows if her words to the detectives come true, perhaps is even a perpetrator herself. Early reports indicated that a detective told Nancy Garrido that her husband was psychotic and was addicted to forcible sex, she allegedly replied with a question, something to the effect of what if that were her taste too?

Battered wife? Maybe. Or maybe she got her kicks that way, maybe she was into forcible sex. But maybe she wanted to be giver not the taker. Or maybe she wanted someone else to take for her. Any way you want to explain it, she doesn't get my sympathy. All she would have had to have done was to assist Jaycee in "running away" during the month or more that PG was in prison. That was all. But she couldn't and wouldn't do that, because she knew she was also guilty in the kidnapping.

ITA mysteriew. I'm just not sure she was physically abused. And let's not overlook the fact that she married PG while he was incarcerated. IMO, women who do that have their own issues.

I believe they had that "compound" ready and waiting long before they found little Jaycee. Nancy had to have known what the plan was and she, by all accounts so far, was a willing participant in what happened.

I just can't overlook the fact that this crime spanned 18 years. We already know there was at least one significant period of time when Nancy could have done the right thing and didn't. There may have been other opportunities over the many years that we don't know about. She could have let Jaycee and the girls go, and she could have gone too if it was such a horrible existance for her. But she didn't.

[Californian]

Interesting that the second "member" in Molino's group is from Florida. Something's up, I think...

Nah...that was me joining Adnoid. I wanted to see if I would get a solicitation email. I didnt.

Oh, give her time, MissOtk.

[SWAG1959]

Is there a way to find out "who" signed up - do they use an email or screen name or what?

Florida - hey wait - maybe its KC or JB or even CA? (teehee - sorry I couldn't resist)

[songline]

Well, first, I don't believe he was incarcerated--I believe he was on home confinement. California normally doesn't incarcerate for parole violations. In any event, I think your post missed my point that we don't know what was going on here with NG. If she were suffering from a mental disorder or if she were suffering from a type of Stockholm Syndrome--it wouldn't have mattered if he were in prison or at home--she wouldn't have done anything--very much the same way that Jaycee had opportunities and didn't take them. Just trying to say to hold off on judgment until we know all the facts. That's what I love about this forum--it's great to get every one's take on the situation!
I do judge her, she was working with abused children before she married this SOB - So in the beginning before she was turned into a robot she knew the signs - she worked with abused kids, understood about patterns, a behaviour...NO I ACTUALLY DO NOT CARE WHAT SYNDROME SHE HAS she is dangerous. She knew exactly where that kind of guy can lead her. NOW she is there. And I don't care, she crossed the line from humane to savage. She needs to be punished severly for life.

My heart goes out to Jaycee and the girls, to Jaycee's mom and dad her real sister. But not to this woman, not at all.

[SoCalSleuth]

I do judge her, she was working with abused children before she married this SOB - So in the beginning before she was turned into a robot she knew the signs - she worked with abused kids, understood about patterns, a behaviour...NO I ACTUALLY DO NOT CARE WHAT SYNDROME SHE HAS she is dangerous. She knew exactly where that kind of guy can lead her. NOW she is there. And I don't care, she crossed the line from humane to savage. She needs to be punished severly for life.

My heart goes out to Jaycee and the girls, to Jaycee's mom and dad her real sister. But not to this woman, not at all.

Of course she should be imprisoned for life for what she did. I haven't seen anyone here offering her any sympathy, but rather, as a prior poster noted, some are trying to understand. My guess is that her lawyer will use this forum to demonstrate to the court that she can't get a fair trial--just you watch!

[adnoid]

Nah...that was me joining Adnoid. I wanted to see if I would get a solicitation email. I didnt.

I work with an engineer from Russia. He has a saying that's probably really eloquent in Russian that he translates to "You can't touch (poop) without picking up the smell". I'd stay away from that place, nothing good will come of it.

[LinasK]

Of course she should be imprisoned for life for what she did. I haven't seen anyone here offering her any sympathy, but rather, as a prior poster noted, some are trying to understand. My guess is that her lawyer will use this forum to demonstrate to the court that she can't get a fair trial--just you watch!
I think from the little I've read of him today, he's already going that route...
He's already trying in the media,"Nancy misses and loved Jaycee and her girls".:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:

[songline]

By John Simerman
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 09/02/2009 05:16:13 PM PDT
Updated: 09/02/2009 06:11:48 PM PDT
If she helped strip a young girl of her innocence and perpetrated a heinous, 18-year-long crime that has shocked the world, Nancy Garrido never showed it when she arrived at work to help people who couldn't help themselves.
Nancy Garrido worked as a state-licensed aide for a respected nonprofit agency that serves 1,000 adults and children with disabilities, mostly in Contra Costa County, even as police say she helped Phillip Garrido keep Jaycee Dugard isolated and under sexual attack for years, authorities say.
She worked full-time for Contra Costa ARC from December 1994 until March 1998, arriving with stellar references as a nursing aide and physical therapy aide, said Barbara Maizie, the agency's executive director.
"The people who received services through her, they liked her very much. She was a good employee and she was well-liked by the people she worked with," Maizie said. "They cannot believe that this is possible. They're totally shocked."
Maizie said Nancy Garrido worked with adults only. She arrived with a valid California Nurse Aide license, a history of nursing home work and a long résumé with both in-state and out-of-state references dating to 1981, Maizie said.
<snip>
When Nancy Garrido first came to work at the Martinez-based agency, Dugard was in her teens and having the first of two girls that Phillip Garrido fathered, living in a hidden backyard lair of tents and shacks behind the Garridos' Walnut Avenue house in unincorporated Contra Costa County, police say.
Among the 29 felony charges that El Dorado County prosecutors leveled against the couple last week is a count of forcible rape against Nancy Garrido from the month she began work at the agency, and six other counts of forcible rape against Nancy or Phillip Garrido during her tenure.
Both pleaded not guilty on Friday and are being held without bail.
Maizie declined to detail Nancy Garrido's personnel file, citing privacy concerns. She said the agency ran a state background check when it hired Garrido; it came back clean.
"Just 'shock' and 'disbelief' are the two words that come to mind," Maizie said of the allegations.
Maizie would not to say why Nancy Garrido left the agency. But a neighbor, Helen Boyer, 78, told The Associated Press that she stopped to become the primary caregiver to Phillip Garrido's bedridden mother, Patricia Franzen.
Boyer said she knew Franzen for more than 30 years and often saw Nancy Garrido.
Nancy Garrido's training could help explain how Dugard could deliver two babies and now have two healthy daughters, ages 11 and 15, even though authorities said none of them had seen a doctor.
A spokesman for the state Department of Public Health said Nancy Garrido was certified as a nurse assistant in California beginning in March 1989, until she failed to renew her license in 1995. Her training did not include assisting with childbirth, said spokesman Ken August. more at link: http://www.contracostatimes.com/top-stories/ci_13255972

Thank you very much for this article I was not aware that she was doing a full time job all these years and had access to finding another choice. I knew she had the opportunity when he was incarcerated, but this article makes her and him partners in crime. I dont think anyone ever figured out why any of these monsters do the things they do.
I do not wish her well.

[adnoid]

..."Nancy misses and loved Jaycee and her girls"...

No. No she did not. If she loved Jaycee she would have found a way to get her back to her family at the first opportunity. She did not do so.

[Trino]

I think from the little I've read of him today, he's already going that route...
He's already trying in the media,"Nancy misses and loved Jaycee and her girls".:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:

Most likely in her twisted way she did love them. However, she was sobbing and crying when jailed, so IMO that means she knew right from wrong.

[mysteriew]

Most likely in her twisted way she did love them. However, she was sobbing and crying when jailed, so IMO that means she knew right from wrong.

She is going to jail, she is going to court she may go to prison. That is what she is crying about.

Will she miss Jaycee and her girls? They were a part of her previous life, a reminder of her life out of prison, yeah she will probably miss them. But probably not as much as a young scared child named Jaycee missed her family. Probably not even as much as she will miss her Philip. And if she does miss them, so what?

[songline]

No. No she did not. If she loved Jaycee she would have found a way to get her back to her family at the first opportunity. She did not do so.

GREAT POST :clap::clap::clap::clap:

[ChaCha]

I've read that the girls thought Jaycee was their sister. So who did they think was their mother? Nancy?

[Anothermom]

Before I go I'll give you a little more.....I think nancys parents are divorced. Her mother has issues with pretty much all her kids I dont know why. Her father is a smoker who just had cataract surgery. She does not keep contact with her dad. I think he's remarried to a women whose name I wont disclose, and they had kids. I think nancys brothers and sisters think nancys dad considers his new kids from the new wife more his kids than nancy and her brothers and sisters. As I said nancy took care of phillips sick mother. Phills sick mother, I'm pretty sure has a sister whom was also sick, but I think she passed away recently. They kept this information of the passing from phills mom at first because her and her sister were very very close.

sorry you have insecurities, but my intention was not as in HAHA i know something you don't so please take that out of the universe as that is not what I said. It was more haha, i dont know you people or who reads this forum, and I'm not just going to throw everything on the table at one time in my first post because...like I said, its a public forum, and i dont know any of you or who is reading it.

It was just plain i wont tell you my sources with the side bar point of her family is an innocent party so their names don't need to be plastered on a web forum. With another side bar point of, me, being willing to answer your questions if there were any........cuz I am able to answer them...but so far no one has asked still so maybe you don't have any questions u wanted answered.

But if you are going to take offence to something I said, twist it, when I didnt intend anything in a rude way...than i'll just take my info else where and you guys can go waste your time matching names on intellus.com for whatever reasons you feel........i guess its your hobby.

so forget about little old me......continue on with your witch hunt without me.

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails.

[Mazama]

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails.

JC? as in Jaycee?

Maz

[adnoid]

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails.

Who, exactly? Sorry, I'm missing who "JC" is, do you mean Jaycee Dugard?

[songline]

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails.
I do not think so...
After such a horrific ordeal I think Jaycee would not be as BOLD. This poster seems too strong to be JC....
BUT, can it be Cheyvonne Molino - that is possible.

[Sanddollar14]

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails.

Those posts make you wonder who it might be. I wished that he/she had not been banned and kept posting.

[Mazama]

Those posts make you wonder who it might be. I wished that he/she had not been banned and kept posting.

The person's nickname is quite similar to the nickname of someone who claimed to hack Nancy Garrido's email and blog. I wouldn't put too much into what they have to say.

If they did hack her account...I hope they get caught and are prosecuted. They posted message details from her account on the internet, I might be wrong here but they could possibly be charged with evidence tampering seeing as information in those emails could have an impact on what is happening in Jaycees case.

:cow:

Maz

[snappyturtle]

Nah...that was me joining Adnoid. I wanted to see if I would get a solicitation email. I didnt.

Try signing the guest book. I think the email that I got was an auto-response because I received it almost immediately.

Do you think I should email her back (cheyvonne)?

[Velouria]

I do not think so...
After such a horrific ordeal I think Jaycee would not be as BOLD. This poster seems too strong to be JC....
BUT, can it be Cheyvonne Molino - that is possible.

Doesn't Nancy have a brother(s)? I got the overwhelming feeling that the poster was actually her sister-in-law.

[arielilane]

Ironically, Nancy Garrido once worked at a children's center as part of a child abuse prevention program, reports CBS News correspondent Hattie Kauffman.

She met and married Phillip Garrido while he was in prison, according to Maines. Phillip Garrido was sentenced in 1977 to 50 years in jail for the kidnap of another woman, though he was paroled little more than 10 years later (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/01/eveningnews/main5280552.shtml).

In 1993, Nancy Garrido may have been alone with Dugard for five months while her husband returned to jail for a parole violation

Maines said he's had limited time to talk with Garrido - just an hour and a half in the five days since taking the case - but indicated he may argue that she was just a victim in the ordeal as well.

Maines also said it would likely take "professional help" for him to get Garrido to open up to him so he could formulate a defense strategy.

Karan Walker, a neighbor of the Garrisons, described her encounters with Nancy Garrido to be disturbing, saying she displayed "erratic movements from suspected drug use [along with] poor hygiene," reports Kauffman.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/02/earlyshow/main5281452.shtml?tag=pop

[nursebeeme]

I get the feeling this may actually be JC posting. Go back and read her emails. just my two cents but I didn't get that impression at. all.

[Sanddollar14]

The person's nickname is quite similar to the nickname of someone who claimed to hack Nancy Garrido's email and blog. I wouldn't put too much into what they have to say.

If they did hack her account...I hope they get caught and are prosecuted. They posted message details from her account on the internet, I might be wrong here but they could possibly be charged with evidence tampering seeing as information in those emails could have an impact on what is happening in Jaycees case.

:cow:

Maz

Would that individual be CM?

[Mazama]

Would that individual be CM?
I have no idea who it is.

Maz

[nursebeeme]

Here is the link to the early show interview with Nancy's lawyer:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5281443n&tag=related;photovideo
(((I haven't watched it yet but don't expect much... in one article I read today her lawyer said he may need the help of professionals to even get a word out of her about what happened)))

Also... angelwhocares posted a very good link in the media thread that I wanted to include here as well. It has a lot of good background info including the following (synopsis and will be back with link in a sec)

~She was a CNA and worked full time (dates in links)

~Property records show she was living in Denver than moved to Leavenworth

~She has an extensive CNA resume' with in (cali) and out of state licenses and references

~and more.....

link:Related Article: Nancy Garrido lived life of contradictions
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_13255972 (http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_13255972)

Article:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1325...ce=most_viewed (http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_13255972?source=most_viewed)

[nursebeeme]

When Nancy Garrido first came to work at the Martinez-based agency, Dugard was in her teens and having the first of two girls that Phillip Garrido fathered, living in a hidden backyard lair of tents and shacks behind the Garridos' Walnut Avenue house in unincorporated Contra Costa County, police say.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_13255972

[i.b.nora]

This interesting story that Michael Cardoza told on Jane Velez Mitchell's show this afternoon:
He said that through some of his police friends, he learned that Nancy Garrido already told the police that the day before Jaycee was actually kidnapped, they had spotted her, Phillip liked her 'look', but she was with too many other kids, so they came back the next day and grabbed her.

[LinasK]

This interesting story that Michael Cardoza told on Jane Velez Mitchell's show this afternoon:
He said that through some of his police friends, he learned that Nancy Garrido already told the police that the day before Jaycee was actually kidnapped, they had spotted her, Phillip liked her 'look', but she was with too many other kids, so they came back the next day and grabbed her.
:eek::eek::eek: Can you say premeditation? This was no spur of the moment grabbing- he targeted her!!!:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar

[nursebeeme]

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5281443n&tag=related;photovideo

in the early show interview... about 3/4 of the way through her lawyer is speaking. When asked if his client is cooperating with LE, the lawyer responds... let me put it this way.... "we haven't been asked to cooperate"

LE PLEASE DON'T DROP THIS BALL AGAIN!

[nursebeeme]

also from her lawyer on the early show: "this was her first and only marriage" and she was married to him for several years while he was still behind bars.

lawyer said what he needs from Nancy right now is an open line of communication and where she has been and how she got to this point... and he says "that is going to take some professional help"... clarifying a psychologist or psychiatrist.. take your pick...

[i.b.nora]

Yeah, assuming its true, its a pretty jawdropping damning statement she made to the police.
At least, that's how I reacted when I heard it.

[nursebeeme]

Yeah, assuming its true, its a pretty jawdropping damning statement she made to the police.
At least, that's how I reacted when I heard it. I hope PattyG was able to record that show! Thanks for the update on it!

[Fairy1]

I don't believe a word her lawyer says. It's easy to see what tact he's going to take here and he's already setting it up in the media. BS!!!

[txsvicki]

I wish people would update along the way , but from what I gather this nancy person was educated? All the more reason she should spend her life in jail and face whatever. Anyone educated who would take up with some ugly looking guy and abduct children for pedophilia deserves what they get.

[nobody2]

:eek::eek::eek: Can you say premeditation? This was no spur of the moment grabbing- he targeted her!!!:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar

Does premeditation mean something much more in kidnap charges or is that just in murders? I know that it matters and can explain more, but I just wondered if it means stiffer charges.

[nobody2]

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5281443n&tag=related;photovideo

in the early show interview... about 3/4 of the way through her lawyer is speaking. When asked if his client is cooperating with LE, the lawyer responds... let me put it this way.... "we haven't been asked to cooperate"

LE PLEASE DON'T DROP THIS BALL AGAIN!

I assume that just means that they have not offered her immunity to give up what she knows about everything Phil did. And I agree they should not do so, yet, because as many have noted here, she's culpable for what they did as well. IF it turns out there were unsolved cases (or murders) that Phillip participated in and the ONLY way they can find out is by Nancy giving him up, I suppose that is when deals might be made.

[adnoid]

I assume that just means that they have not offered her immunity to give up what she knows about everything Phil did. And I agree they should not do so, yet, because as many have noted here, she's culpable for what they did as well. IF it turns out there were unsolved cases (or murders) that Phillip participated in and the ONLY way they can find out is by Nancy giving him up, I suppose that is when deals might be made.

Absolutely. Every time I think of the deal Karla Homolka cut that got her off easy, I get really steamed. Take your time, investigate, and get her for what you can.

[SWAG1959]

Me thinks there "ain't gonna be no stinkin' deals" with these two (especially NG). Nope. LE has their hands full - considering all the "cold cases" that could be connected.

The best they could do would be LWOP - and she's gonna get that anyway. IMO they're really trying to find out if he has any murdered victims. Murder is a DP crime in California and we all want this guy to get the DP (badly). And if they do get him for murder - then they could make NG a deal - no death penalty if you turn state's evidence we'll give you LWOP.

I'm really hoping there won't be a trial. I don't want to see Jaycee (or her girls, family, etc.) end up on a witness stand.

[snappyturtle]

:eek::eek::eek: Can you say premeditation? This was no spur of the moment grabbing- he targeted her!!!:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar

I never understood how they could claim it was spontaneous when they had to drive at least a couple of hours away from Antioch to pick Jaycee up.

[Fairy1]

I assume that just means that they have not offered her immunity to give up what she knows about everything Phil did. And I agree they should not do so, yet, because as many have noted here, she's culpable for what they did as well. IF it turns out there were unsolved cases (or murders) that Phillip participated in and the ONLY way they can find out is by Nancy giving him up, I suppose that is when deals might be made.

I hope they don't offer her immunity!!! As far as I'm concerned, she is every bit as guilty as PG. Though I do hope she will cough up more details regarding Jaycee and whatever else she knows....

[flourish]

Lots of similarities between Nancy Garrido and Karla Homolka, IMO. Hopefully, Garrido will not be able to make some plea or somehow get out of jail earlier than normal.

Totally! When I heard about this, I thought, "wow...just what Paul Bernado and Karla Homolka wanted to do...hope this b!tch doesn't get off like the evil Karla!" Blech, those two...:puke::puke::puke:
I wonder if Karla and/or Paul have heard about this case? Paul has a television in his cell, I believe, and Karla's free, so it's possible. Hopefully, the world has learned since the deal with the devil.

[Fairy1]

Totally! When I heard about this, I thought, "wow...just what Paul Bernado and Karla Homolka wanted to do...hope this b!tch doesn't get off like the evil Karla!" Blech, those two...:puke::puke::puke:
I wonder if Karla and/or Paul have heard about this case? Paul has a television in his cell, I believe, and Karla's free, so it's possible. Hopefully, the world has learned since the deal with the devil.

Paul has a f---ing television IN HIS CELL???? Seriously? OMG - he should have been exterminated as soon as he was convicted and so should have his "wife." The fact that she is free just chills me to the bone! And she has at least one child. Probably more now. Lord help any babies she's had or has. She is evil and I doubt we've seen the last of her in the news.

I'm not sure we can lump NG in the same category as Karla - yet. I truly hope we're not looking at the same type of women here. OMG!

[Boyz_Mum]

This may sound really stupid, but is there any possibility that Nancy ever acted alone (while Mr. G was in jail)? I don't know why I feel like she is potraying herself as a victim of his devices but could have been a bigger part of things all on her own?

Maybe it's because it sounds like she had some chances to say or do something over the past 18 years and I'm just reading more into it?

[mysteriew]

This may sound really stupid, but is there any possibility that Nancy ever acted alone (while Mr. G was in jail)? I don't know why I feel like she is potraying herself as a victim of his devices but could have been a bigger part of things all on her own?

Maybe it's because it sounds like she had some chances to say or do something over the past 18 years and I'm just reading more into it?

Yeah, there is that possibility. But no evidence at this time.

[Boyz_Mum]

Yeah, there is that possibility. But no evidence at this time.

Thanks, mysteriew.

I'm doing searches of "husband and wife crime duos" and this link does pose the question about Nancy: http://www.theage.com.au/world/nancy-garrido-manipulated-wife-or-partner-in-crime-20090901-f6rk.html

I do believe in Stockholm Syndrome, but in this case I'm having trouble with accepting that as a reason for Nancy being involved. JMO.

[cali_girl]

From the Velez-Mitchell show: MICHAEL CARDOZA, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, she`s not going to get away with it. I was talking to some of my friends in law enforcement, and they told me that Nancy Garrido talked to the police.

Nancy Garrido told them that the day before Jaycee was kidnapped, she and Phillip were out looking, child shopping for a victim to kidnap. When Garrido -- when Phillip Garrido saw Jaycee, he said, "That`s the one I want. She`s cute. I want her, but she`s with the other kids. Let me come back later. Let`s come back later and get her."

The next day, they went, both of them, husband and wife, and kidnapped Jaycee, kidnapped her the next day. So was Nancy Garrido knee deep into this? Absolutely".

[citypat]

From the Velez-Mitchell show: MICHAEL CARDOZA, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, she`s not going to get away with it. I was talking to some of my friends in law enforcement, and they told me that Nancy Garrido talked to the police.

Nancy Garrido told them that the day before Jaycee was kidnapped, she and Phillip were out looking, child shopping for a victim to kidnap. When Garrido -- when Phillip Garrido saw Jaycee, he said, "That`s the one I want. She`s cute. I want her, but she`s with the other kids. Let me come back later. Let`s come back later and get her."

The next day, they went, both of them, husband and wife, and kidnapped Jaycee, kidnapped her the next day. So was Nancy Garrido knee deep into this? Absolutely".



I am not to sure about this one, folks...

I think Jaycee's kidnapping was random.

June 10, 1991 was a Monday...for this to be true, NG & PG were cruising on a Sunday, saw JD and decided to come back the next day due to proximity to friends?

How did they know what house was hers...maybe she was playing in front of someone elses home. How did they know she wouldn't be picked up by a bus in front of her house or driven to school by her parents...were they going to follow her all day until the she was alone? Did they stay overnight at a motel or round trip those 170 miles the next day?

Not the MO I get from reading about PG. Opportunist.

I think they went looking near a school, far away from their own area and found a pretty girl, alone, by the side of the road.

[Cheyvonne]

It utterly amazes me that so many of you are spending valuable time voicing your opinions , thoughts and so forth on the world wide web instead of taking time out to criticize me than helping to locate a missing child(Hassani Campbell). I can and will not address each post , but i will do by best to give you a summation , where should I start. Last wednesday evening We (J.M. Ent. ) received a phone call asking for a reference for P.G. (Philip Garrido) unbeknowest to his arrest my employee gave him a positive recommendation, It was not until thursday morning when the media showed at our doorstep asking questions about his machine ( silly us still unaware he was in jail , sorry we had not seen the news). by 11:30 a.m. reporters from everywhere where saying we where supporting all the negatives he had done , such is not the case . If any of you have ever been interviewed by the media ( I doubt you have) than you would know that of 20 questions asked only 3 or so where aired. In most interviews you saw our pictures with voice overs. not once where we allowed to screen said interviews before release. Just have you have accessed my many websites , the media accessed my personal FACEBOOK page and obtained the photographs ( I gave no one permission to use them , I was allowed the opportunity to explain the photos, when given an interview you are not paid (it is illegal to sell photos of children by the way without parental consent) , they may give you a glass of water even if you discuss the questions they still trip you up and say something to throw you off (AC360) . Here is the official statement of Cheyvonne Molino , James Molino employees of J.M. Enterprizes .
In no way are we defending Philip or Nancy Garrido we feel has if he has decieved all of us, being that we have no power to do anything but use words I we have kept our opinions to purselves not to be gracious to him / her in no way but to his daughters , We know them , we perhaps are the only people they know , we are doing everything in our power to maintain a positive connection to them (example , not like this compares but for the sake of argument, when parents divorce you are not allowed to speak negative of the other parent ) in this case the girls do not know the horriffics that are being displayed (raped , Kidnapped) you may not but We have a responsibility to them , no one for any reason wants to be reminded of the negativity they have gone through including me. We did not ask to be in this situation and anyone that wants to PERSONALLY advise us on this situation than so be it , do not hide behind user names and a keyboard. You all have taken time to investigate me (cheyvonne ) as if I asked to be out hear you can make all they opinions you like , we have been asked to do 17 talk shows , offered money to sell the memory card amongst other things like people who have tried to break in our houses to try and get more information. Let me go back to the interviews, We do belive that they where forced to be in unthinkable conditions , the reference to the home was but as another example as to how ( this applies only to those that live in the city/county limits. ) The AUTHORITIES have FAILED , so busy trying to shut my business down , here was this man in there face giving them clues to his unstableness and yet they never picked up on it , oh hear goes the RACE card, because a black man complained about the neighbor to the Code Enforcement every time they came to harrass them it was over looked , See you see fiction I have facts I'm living this . If i get some details wrong Im sure one of you with nothing else to do will correct me.
Phillip Garrido : Should have never seen the light of day in 1976 / 88
Nancy Garrido : Should have released herself , and a pregnant Jaycee ( since now she is a victim , her words not mine) in 1993 , hile he was Incarcerated . If not sooner.
Authorities : Most people I know on limited parole , can not employ them selves so how a lifetime monitored parolee was allowed to do so I am unsure.
Just 3 weeks ago when he turned in his manifesto to the F.B.I. why was he not checked than , when he spoke at the Pittsburg City Planning Commission Meeting why was he not checked , those are just personal observations , as for the U.C. Berkeley Officer when the video comes out ( oh the cameras at U.C. Berkeley where not working in the security office that day so no video )Perhaps if it was working than those young ladies may not have been raped , but that is another conversation. The reason we need to know the truth in the failures so that this CAN and WILL not happen again.
You can say what you like about me this is not my 15 min claim to fame ...Really to be remembered by knowing a kidnap , rapist. but perhaps by those I helped up not Pushed down Quote that. The email is mine it is for all the media to go to so that if ever questioned there is whats called a paper trail , the website came with info denouncing the blog with the official foundation info and link to the one set up by jaycee's sister it was hacked and removed before we could even put any information on there and the response emails never came from me I do not use my personal info on any websites I use until today .yet we can not get the unauthorized blog down promoting his nonsense. As for those who know me personally , and my child she is being harrassed by the lunatics that are trying to follow him , we have been offered thousands of dollars for her to appear on camera, perhaps she will one day when reunited with her friends Starlet and Angel. I am human i make no excuses just reasons for certain actions( separate myspace pages personal , bikes , business , it is called a preference) there are but three people on this earth that should think negative of me , you can say do think what you like but not on no day are any of you willing to walk an inch in my shoes if you where you would be at my business.(thank you to those that have come out) . In closing because I can go on I am hear to TELL the story not SELL it. talk about the neighbor who made 6 grand for people to stand in his back yard, park in his drive way . (Personal Disclaimer) I am BEYOND BEAUTIFUL I have confidence not arrogance those posting interactions with me both negative and positive keeps me motivated , to stand by my values , not one person has stood up until today to DEFEND the GIRLS. That is my only mission for the sake of my child you do what you need to to keep happiness and harmony in your home I will do the same here.to continue to speak on me takes time away from the missing children that we have been looking for daily. Cheyvonne

[Cheyvonne]

@ snappy turtle the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family . by the way do you have a job, so much time here but not getting paid what a shame none if this will do anyone any good help find a missing child instead of commenting on a found one.

[JoeFromLB]

I am not to sure about this one, folks...

I think Jaycee's kidnapping was random.

June 10, 1991 was a Monday...for this to be true, NG & PG were cruising on a Sunday, saw JD and decided to come back the next day due to proximity to friends?

How did they know what house was hers...maybe she was playing in front of someone elses home. How did they know she wouldn't be picked up by a bus in front of her house or driven to school by her parents...were they going to follow her all day until the she was alone? Did they stay overnight at a motel or round trip those 170 miles the next day?

Not the MO I get from reading about PG. Opportunist.

I think they went looking near a school, far away from there own area and found a pretty girl, alone, by the side of the road.

As I recall, Carl Probyn (Jaycee's stepfather) was interviewed shortly after this story broke on the John and Ken radio show in L.A., on KFI-640AM, and I could swear I heard him say that LE told him the abduction was random. Now, Garrido and NG could have been out looking for a young girl, but Jaycee was picked randomly. They happened to drive by as she was walking up the hill to the bus stop, turned around and grabbed her.

I don't know if there's a podcast available of that interview. There was one up last week on the website. I'll try to get a link for you.

[Californian]

@ snappy turtle the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family .

Did they have a 6 degrees of separation to Jaycee's family. Is there some kind of link there?

[txsvicki]

I can believe those two trolled around a few days and targetted a certain girl. Kids usually catch a bus at a certain spot every day. They don't pick up individual kids at their homes. Of course, nabbing a child right at the actual bus stop might not work, so they'd move a few feet down the road. These people were predators.

[snappyturtle]

@ snappy turtle the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family . by the way do you have a job, so much time here but not getting paid what a shame none if this will do anyone any good help find a missing child instead of commenting on a found one.

In regard to the question that you posted on my page, I can't respond to you there. I'm not sure if you've blocked me or everyone. Either way...
I didn't hack your account. All of the information that I have posted can be found online, and I've included the links in almost every post. I'm here trying to understand what happened to Jaycee and why. This case has impacted me personally for reasons that I choose not to share.

No one forced you to make your myspace or facebook public or to speak to the press. You choose to put yourself in the public eye. That comes with consequences both good and bad. If you don't want the attention, stop giving interviews, go onto the privacy settings on your sites and change them to private.

I find it plausible that someone hacked the foundation site, but why would they set up an auto-response with your name on it? Your personal information is all over the web in multiple sites. So I'm not sure what you mean when you say you never use your personal information.

We all saw the interview with AC360, and if you take a step back and view the video from a outsiders point of view, it appears that he is trying to assist you in saying appropriate things not to trick you. Multiple people have drawn the same conclusion.

My intention in posting the information that I posted was to try to find reason in chaos and help others to do the same. If your interest is truly in helping others and you know something that can bring reason to this tragedy please share it.

[gitana1]

It utterly amazes me that so many of you are spending valuable time voicing your opinions , thoughts and so forth on the world wide web instead of taking time out to criticize me than helping to locate a missing child(Hassani Campbell). Cheyvonne
Snipped by me for space.

We are a group from all walks of life, many involved with law enforcement, social services, the legal arena, victim protection groups, missing children and adult groups, investigators, etc. This board is not for people to simply sit around and gossip. We are here to help solve crimes and especially to help locate missing children. That's the lifeblood of our group - the rights of children and their protection from any kind of crime. And, we have actually helped solve actual, real cases. I am very proud of the commitment and dedication of the people on this site to fighting crime and protecting the innocent.
People here (not hear, by the way), are extremely passionate about children and about eradicating those that hurt them. Thus, we can and do get very angry, very quickly, when someone has even the smallest appearance of supporting a predator.
Your statements on Anderson Cooper's show made thousands of ears perk up and millions of hearts begin banging in anger. I appreciate that you state you want to protect the girls, I appreciate that few know what it's like to be questioned by the media and I appreciate that no one knows what it is like to stand in your shoes. However, I myself was taken aback by your statements. I understand, as I am sure all of us here do, that the little girls in question are in a precarious position - caught between possibly loving the people they knew as their parents and the utter depravity of what those two monsters did to their mother, who they may have known as their sister. But I hardly see how speaking about them at all, in a public setting, can help them. I think I know what you are saying you want to say, and that is, "Let's not label them as sexually abused children, or sex slaves" because that may harm them horribly, espcially if it is not so. But, they were abused, by being raised by their own mother's abductor, rapist, captor and torturor, by being lied to about their history and being kept from society - no birth certificates, likely little medical attention from licensed physicians, little edcuation and little interaction with society at large. That is abuse. So regardless of whether or not your former associate raped and/or molested these girls, they have been horribly abused, are suffering immensely now as a result and the only people to blame for that are garrido and his wife.
You may be well meaning, but again, I hardly think that your statements to the media about two little girls who are currently surrounded by professionals and family dedicated to helping them survive this nightmare, are of any real help. They need privacy, not comments about them in such a public format by one who knew them. This is not a divorce. It is a crime of amazing abhorrence and magnitude and I highly doubt that you will ever have contact with those girls again.

[Mazama]

Victim by association? Are you claiming that you are a victim? I'm sorry but I just don't see how you have been victimized in this.

You/your employee made the choice to give him a good recommendation. You made the choice to allow him to have his venues on your business property. You made the choice to befriend him. You made the choice to do all those interviews. You made the choice to have your web pages viewable by the public. You made those choices.

IMHO you are not a victim of anything but your own ignorance.

The only real victims are Jaycee, her children and her family.

:cow:

Maz

[smart blonde]

@ snappy turtle the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family . by the way do you have a job, so much time here but not getting paid what a shame none if this will do anyone any good help find a missing child instead of commenting on a found one.
I have been wondering about the "6 degrees of separation" thing myself.

Just the other day, I re-read an article, on www.people.com (http://www.people.com), that was originally printed in their magazine in 1991/92- not sure the exact date or issue, but it stated in the story that at that time Jaycee had been missing a mere 5 months.

It also stated that at the time of Jaycee's kidnapping, Jaycee's mother Terry had been working for a printing company.

It could mean nothing, of course, but it made me wonder if even 18 years ago, PG had reason to visit a printing company, and therefore became aware of Jaycee, in that way.

[smart blonde]

Did they have a 6 degrees of separation to Jaycee's family. Is there some kind of link there?
If Cheyvonne, or anyone for that matter, knows or even suspects there is some kind of link between the kidnappers and this victim's family, it can not be stressed enough how important it is to give this information to the investigating authorities.

Hinting at "6 degrees of separation" on an internet forum doesn't count.

Jaycee's mother, daughters, the authorities, and of course Jaycee herself deserve to know the truth.

I will re-ask Californian's question: "Did they have a 6 degrees of separation to Jaycee's family? Is there some kind of link there?".

[LillyRush]

Phillip Garrido has had connections to the Lake Tahoe area as far back as the 1970s. We know this because that is where he attacked and kidnapped Katie/Katherine Callaway in November 1976.

I don't think he had any specific tie to the Dugard family. But, would whatever tie or affection he had for the Lake Tahoe area have brought him closer to choosing another victim from that same area?...Probably.

[checkercab]

She may have been submissive in the beginning but she became an aggressive Perp. He was again imprisoned during the captivity and she stepped into his shoes maintaining JC's captivity.

:devil: Astride, as black a hawk, her broom,
Nan, in whisks she blew
black hide, of panther, flew:
Phil, as black a sheep, he loom'.

[RJA00]

I can believe those two trolled around a few days and targetted a certain girl. Kids usually catch a bus at a certain spot every day. They don't pick up individual kids at their homes. Of course, nabbing a child right at the actual bus stop might not work, so they'd move a few feet down the road. These people were predators.


thankfully,, here here the bus does go door to door, I dont know how they get all the kids picked up, but we dont have bus stops they stop right in front of the house,

[WholeLottaRosie]

this morning on CBS morning show- Nancy's attorney was whining about having to see his client through glass-he hasn't been able to form a relationship with her. He is going to need professional help to get to the bottom of the story. When asked if his client is a victim or a crinimal---oh she is a victim

yeah right

Her attorney admits he needs professional help? I hope the poor man gets it and I hope the State gets her a better attorney to prevent any grounds for appealing on ineffective counsel. Wow. I have been away and am now back and catching up, and, much of it just has me going, WOW and shaking my head (so much my neck is starting to hurt.)

[WholeLottaRosie]

But one of the facts have the SOB incarcerated for 4 months;
Just like his first wife escaped while he was incarcerated Nancy could have set the kid free and escaped too. She did not....IMHO even if you will tell me she is a robot, I will say a dangerous robot, that should be in jail for the rest of her life.
someone did point out that she could have botched up the kidnapping 18 years ago by pretending to nab the kid, and she could have told her run home fast. this does not mean he would not have try it again. It only means that hse had chances....

I have been thinking about this. 6 days away from the net, while good for the soul, leaves time to think. Anyway, we talk about the four months or so he was (possibly) locked up and I agree, Nancy could have done something. But, then I have been thinking, what about PG's mother? Sure she has problems now, but, did she then? Her home, so I wonder how involved and or aware she was then?

[snappyturtle]

I have been thinking about this. 6 days away from the net, while good for the soul, leaves time to think. Anyway, we talk about the four months or so he was (possibly) locked up and I agree, Nancy could have done something. But, then I have been thinking, what about PG's mother? Sure she has problems now, but, did she then? Her home, so I wonder how involved and or aware she was then?


That's an excellent point. I read somewhere that she was suffering from dementia. Dementia usually gets worse with time. What was her condition 18years ago?

[Californian]

... the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family

Did they have a 6 degrees of separation to Jaycee's family. Is there some kind of link there?

If Cheyvonne, or anyone for that matter, knows or even suspects there is some kind of link between the kidnappers and this victim's family, it can not be stressed enough how important it is to give this information to the investigating authorities.

Hinting at "6 degrees of separation" on an internet forum doesn't count.

Jaycee's mother, daughters, the authorities, and of course Jaycee herself deserve to know the truth.

I will re-ask Californian's question: "Did they have a 6 degrees of separation to Jaycee's family? Is there some kind of link there?".

I don't think Chevyonne's going to return to this forum. So now we are left wondering what the heck she meant by that. Was she seriously implying there was some degree of separation, or just pulling our leg?

[songline]

I don't think Chevyonne's going to return to this forum. So now we are left wondering what the heck she meant by that. Was she seriously implying there was some degree of separation, or just pulling our leg?

I do not concern my self with anything she said because IMHO she wanted to be seen more then offer something to help. I read somewhere that she is bipolar (from the CEO of some Bike club) bipolar people say a lot of things that have no merit at all. Sifting through what they say is like looking for a needle in the sand.

[MBK]

That's an excellent point. I read somewhere that she was suffering from dementia. Dementia usually gets worse with time. What was her condition 18years ago?

MMmmm . . . . yes, and there is such a condition as early onset Alzheimer's.

Also, she may have been frightened and abused (emotionally, physically) by the couple and afraid to speak out. Literally, imprisoned in the house. (??????)

[nursebeeme]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-interview-neighbor-saw-phillip-garridos-mother-driving-kidnap-car

not sure when Patricia was noted to be driving the sedan by a neighbor... but check out the link

[MBK]

Originally Posted by Cheyvonne
... the question you should be asking is why where they in tahoe and did they have any 6 degree of seperation to jaycee's family

If Ms. Molino KNOWS that there was some sort of relationship between the Garridos and Jaycee's family, and this is not just speculation on her part - - - how is it that she KNOWS?!!! (Esp. since she apparently found out same time as the rest of the nation that Jaycee was not indeed P. Garrido's daughter, but Jaycee Dugard, kidnapping victim.) . . . .

Well, like you said, this may be just grandstanding on her part or grandiose narcissism . . .

But if she knows, she needs to lawyer up and then talk to LE, IMO.

[CPP]

i keep asking what you want to know, and still no questions....but what my sources are haha. I wont tell you my sources, all I can say is that they are 100% correct.

I already have all the names of all of her family. and their birthdays and locations. It's all irrelavent because they are innocent parties.

Heres a bone. The names of jaycees daughters arnt just Angel and Starlet....they are Angel Amber & Starlet Gabriel.


Nancy took care of phills sick mother...she had parkinsons.


Nancy spoke with her family after reconnecting about her family, filling in her long lost brothers and sisters with information about her life now, telling them she even has three kids now...three daughters. Nancy herself, refered to the kids as her own. And unless phillip was right at her back with a gun to her head telling her what to say......she didnt sound tooooo robotic as the press makes her out to be, she freely spoke about how she misses her sister, and her brother...and her family and mother. Spoke freely about her 3 kids to them. I can tell you this, her brother is not a broncos fan, and nancy made a joke to him on a postcard saying "go broncos!" (my point is that does not come off to me as very robotic, unless shes a good actress..but maybe)

her family also was in the now about her printing business.

so basicly in a nut shell shes creates a "im married to phill, lifes great, have 3 kids, the printing business...blah blah"

I will hazard a guess that you are a friend of her family and / or related to a family member in some way. Therefore, if you don't mind responding, I've a very specific questions for you. What has the reaction been to recent events /revelations by her reunited family members?? Did she exhibit bizarre or sexually outrageous behavior prior to pairing up with Garrido?

[MBK]

Great, I'll ask questions, too.

Did Nancy Garrido's family MEET Jaycee, Starlet and Angel?

If they didn't meet, did they see pictures?

Who named the daughters Starlet and Angel?

[i.b.nora]

I will hazard a guess that you are a friend of her family and / or related to a family member in some way. Therefore, if you don't mind responding, I've a very specific questions for you. What has the reaction been to recent events /revelations by her reunited family members?? Did she exhibit bizarre or sexually outrageous behavior prior to pairing up with Garrido?
CPP — Note that that person was banned after just a few posts. My personal belief was that the person had hacked into Nancy's yahoo account and was 'recounting' things from emails. I dunno, but the person is long gone, you won't get any answers.

[CPP]

CPP — Note that that person was banned after just a few posts. My personal belief was that the person had hacked into Nancy's yahoo account and was 'recounting' things from emails. I dunno, but the person is long gone, you won't get any answers.


Thanks i.b.nora... I've been away from the site for a while and was playing catch up when I responded.

I'm troubled by the way both w3as3L and chevonne have presented themselves here.

[Californian]

I'm troubled by the way both w3as3L and chevonne have presented themselves here.

Neither of them are posting here any longer.

[LillyRush]

If Ms. Molino KNOWS that there was some sort of relationship between the Garridos and Jaycee's family, and this is not just speculation on her part - - - how is it that she KNOWS?!!! (Esp. since she apparently found out same time as the rest of the nation that Jaycee was not indeed P. Garrido's daughter, but Jaycee Dugard, kidnapping victim.) . . . .

Well, like you said, this may be just grandstanding on her part or grandiose narcissism . . .

But if she knows, she needs to lawyer up and then talk to LE, IMO.

I do not believe Cheyvonne ever knew of any such connection between the Garridos and Jaycee's family. I think it was just another example of her trying to blame the victim, just like she has repeatedly tried to minimize the actual horror of this entire situation. Garrido has had ties to the Lake Tahoe area and Western Nevada going back many years, as evidenced by his prior assaults in the 1970s. That was clearly before Jaycee was born and even before her family lived in that area.

I remember watching a talk show video (Montel, maybe) from back in the 1990s and Carl Probyn was saying that they had only recently moved to that area from Orange County, ironically to provide a safer life for their family. So, they had not even been there that long prior to Jaycee being kidnapped, as opposed to Garrido who had been making Lake Tahoe his hangout for decades.

[songline]

I was reading the Enquirer yesterday and there was an article about Nancy.
Seems that she was very quite, shy, and afraid of her husband. They said Nancy talked about Philip like she worshiped him. That she used pills, pot, and heroin. That she was not allowed to socialize with anyone, and that she was expected home in a hurry after her shift ended. She lost a job because the did drug testing in that Health facility.
Can not give you a link because the enquirer dos not put everything on the Internet, or they would not be able to sell papers. I assume, it will be on their site when the new paper comes out.

[delaney]

Great synopsis of the NE article, thanks songline.

The Globe 9/21/09 is out with no online story yet.

The only thing that the Globe story adds is that Nancy Garrido
had some nursing ability from working at nursing homes and that it was she
that delivered Jaycee's two children. Nancy had worked at Diamond Ridge Healtcare Center, was often unkempt, hair dirty. She used pot, pills and heroin.

That information is also being reported on HLN as I type.

www.GlobeMagazine.com