View Full Version : Forensic Astrology - ANNIE LE, Yale Student Last Seen 9/08/09
Saturn in the H. of hopes brings disappointment in great expectations and the Moon inconjunct Mercury r. ruling that cusp would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart. A tremendously disruptive influence, Uranus in H. 5 is an influence that dashed hopes.
The Part of Misfortune on the degree of the Uranian planetary node solves problems in a drastic manner in the H. of research and death.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/YaleGradStudent102.jpg
We only know when the subject clocked in. If there was an unfortunate incident, we do not have that time but as to her whereabouts: if such incident happened shortly after she entered the facility, she is to the south in the building & then moving eastward. If the incident occurred at all and was later but before 1:00 p.m., she is at ground level in a dark place and may be contained.
nursebeeme
09-11-2009, 10:53 PM
Saturn in the H. of hopes brings disappointment in great expectations and the Moon inconjunct Mercury r. ruling that cusp would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart. A tremendously disruptive influence, Uranus in H. 5 is an influence that dashed hopes.
The Part of Misfortune on the degree of the Uranian planetary node solves problems in a drastic manner in the H. of research and death.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/YaleGradStudent102.jpg
We only know when the subject clocked in. If there was an unfortunate incident, we do not have that time but as to her whereabouts: if such incident happened shortly after she entered the facility, she is to the south in the building & then moving eastward. If the incident occurred at all and was later but before 1:00 p.m., she is at ground level in a dark place and may be contained.
Thank you Tuba!
Some questions about the chart (let me first list a few of your statements)
~she is not in harmony with her approaching marriage ceremony (disappointment in great expectations; would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart)
~the sign of marriage holds self-undoing
~hidden violence and the truth is camoflaged
~sounding of the alarm was deliberate; Annie was hiding
~problem solved in a drastic maner; research and death; dashed hopes uranus
Questions: from an astronewbie... but I have been trying to learn:
Are you seeing suicide as a possibility? (ie, she hid somewhere in the building and resolved problems of "disharmony", "self undoing" inability to "acheive the wish of the heart" and will not "settle for less" with the "drastic manner of suicide?) Hidden violence and the truth were camoflaged... by the fire alarm? by her own hand? Or is uranus the perp/another interest that superceded that of her upcoming marriage?
Sorry if I am making no sense at all... When I read your chart I am (for a newbie to this) reading several possiblities into it. Thanks for any insight you can give :-)
You are welcome. No, it is NOT Annie who was hiding. Annie is Venus. Mercury is someone else and that person was hiding. The person is unbelievably immature. Mercury is convertible, i.e. can be either male or female, however in Libra a masculine Sign, probably male. Please note I did not state that Annie was hiding.
I should add that if the incident (assuming there was one) occurred later, there is no reason to believe she is in the building.
No matter how we look at this, someone else is responsible for her not being where she is supposed to be.
You are wise to fasten on Uranus in House 5. Looking ahead to a committed relationship like marriage, afflicted Uranus there is nothing but trouble. It could represent someone who thought he had a chance with her & her impending vows convinced him otherwise.
nursebeeme
09-11-2009, 11:42 PM
You are welcome. No, it is NOT Annie who was hiding. Annie is Venus. Mercury is someone else and that person was hiding. The person is unbelievably immature. Mercury is convertible, i.e. can be either male or female, however in Libra a masculine Sign, probably male. Please note I did not state that Annie was hiding.
I should add that if the incident (assuming there was one) occurred later, there is no reason to believe she is in the building.
No matter how we look at this, someone else is responsible for her not being where she is supposed to be.
You are wise to fasten on Uranus in House 5. Looking ahead to a committed relationship like marriage, afflicted Uranus there is nothing but trouble. It could represent someone who thought he had a chance with her & her impending vows convinced him otherwise. thank you! at least I got Uranus right! I am working on it... the slow student that I am! Thank you for the clarity!
eta: what kind of person could the perp be... would that be in relation to research (researcher or someone working in that building)?
static
09-12-2009, 05:04 AM
You are welcome. No, it is NOT Annie who was hiding. Annie is Venus. Mercury is someone else and that person was hiding. The person is unbelievably immature. Mercury is convertible, i.e. can be either male or female, however in Libra a masculine Sign, probably male. Please note I did not state that Annie was hiding.
I should add that if the incident (assuming there was one) occurred later, there is no reason to believe she is in the building.
No matter how we look at this, someone else is responsible for her not being where she is supposed to be.
You are wise to fasten on Uranus in House 5. Looking ahead to a committed relationship like marriage, afflicted Uranus there is nothing but trouble. It could represent someone who thought he had a chance with her & her impending vows convinced him otherwise.
Is it possible that Annie set off the alarm herself to try to get help?
It is certainly a move someone in terrible trouble would try but the news said there was so much steam in the building the alarm was tripped. That much steam, to me, is suspect. For the clouds of steam, see House 4 of the chart. Jupiter is bountiful and Neptune is steam; they are in the air, Aquarius. This pair is in sesquiquadrate with Mars for very hot steam but Mars rules the Seventh House of the perpetrator, who appears to be too clever by half.
The news report I heard via t.v. was that Ann Le was a t.a. in a class and she did not come to class as expected. Apparently she is reliable and punctual by nature. That may well be why the instructor cancelled class.
The person we are looking for loves debate, argument, quarrel, is very immature with a low boiling point. Likely a student doing research because Mars excels at that and this person is in House 9 of university education.
Last night, a very intuitive (male) commentator on t.v. suggested that ceiling tiles should be investigated when the panel was fretting over the size of the research facility. How amazing is THAT!?
Soulscape
09-12-2009, 09:38 PM
Angel, this is copied directly from your post #270 above:
Police sources told Fox 61 in New Haven that they found Le's body inside the building.
...yet later in the same post:
5:38 p.m. | Kimberly Mertz, the special agent in charge of the FBI in Connecticut ... said. "We are not in a position today to conclude whether this is a missing persons case or whether criminality is involved," she said.
...
5:42 p.m. | "We don't know where she is," Conroy said. ... "We don't know if a crime were committed or not," he said.
"I will categorically say a body has not been found," Mertz said.
What gives?!! Did they find her and they are just not putting the word out to the public?
Thanks,
Soulscape
Angel Who Cares
09-12-2009, 10:43 PM
SS,
News reports came out before the news conference & even on Fox News Cable Network, MSN Cable, & CNN that a body was found!!! :confused:
When they held the news conference they are now denying a body was found, but that they did find bloody clothes and other items that they retrieved from a ceiling in the building, and two Yale Police Department officers said that 10 Amistad St. is now the site of a crime scene.
They are being very secretive & gave mixed odd statements in the news conference!!! :waitasec:
I'll keep an eye out for any further developments for you! :blowkiss:
That is why I posted the link with the time-stamps of thier news conference, I was hoping that maybe a chart would clue us into the latest developments. No probem if Tuba or you don't see a need for a chart for the news conference times! :winko:
:angel:
Zoe Bogart
09-13-2009, 02:39 AM
I had the radio on Saturday afternoon when they broke in and said Annie's body had been found. Now I'm reading this thread and finding out it's not true! This is just too awful.
Thanks for the chart, Tuba. Thanks for the updates, Angel. I hope you are doing better.
I must say, at first I was a bit confused trying to read this thread with so many subjects being discussed. I was going :crazy: Then the Annie story took over and it was easier to follow then.
Thanks for all the hard work, ladies. :blowkiss: Tuba, thanks for the chart on Adji. Soulscape, thanks for your work on Baby Jon's case. "Frazier told Whatcom County Sheriff's detectives he swung the child into a door, a wall and a bed frame,". Unbelievable what this infant had to suffer at the hands of his FATHER! There are no words.........
salvarenga
09-13-2009, 03:00 PM
A link to this site: http://www.ivygateblog.com/2006/12/yale-pharmacology-prof-brilliant-at-researching-cancer-drugs-how-he-treats-women-not-so-much/ was given in the comments section on one of the articles on Yale Daily News.
Read the comments there that date back to 2006. Have any charts been done on the Professor?
His DOB is easily accessible on the web. Not sure if I could post it or not.....let me know if you are interested.
Soulscape
09-13-2009, 07:36 PM
A link to this site: http://www.ivygateblog.com/2006/12/yale-pharmacology-prof-brilliant-at-researching-cancer-drugs-how-he-treats-women-not-so-much/ was given in the comments section on one of the articles on Yale Daily News.
Read the comments there that date back to 2006. Have any charts been done on the Professor?
His DOB is easily accessible on the web. Not sure if I could post it or not.....let me know if you are interested.
Salvarenga,
Good to see you posting again, we've missed you. :blowkiss:
Yes, if you have the Professor's DOB, please post. If you can also provide DOB of her faculty advisor Anton Bennett, please do so...
Thanks,
Soulscape
Salvarenga,
Good to see you posting again, we've missed you. :blowkiss:
Yes, if you have the Professor's DOB, please post. If you can also provide DOB of her faculty advisor Anton Bennett, please do so...
Thanks,
Soulscape
Hi soulscape. I'm not salvarenga but I found this for you.
...J. Schlessinger was born March 26, 1945, in the village of Topusko, now in Croatia, when it was occupied by Nazi Germany. The family moved to Israel in 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schlessinger
Supported here:
http://josephschlessinger.info/
Hope this helps.
Money Girl
09-13-2009, 09:30 PM
remains have been found within a wall at 10 Amistad per presser
http://twitter.com/WTNH
they have not been identified but Annie's family has been notified
I read that in the New Haven Register and immediately thought of Tuba's posting about being contained in a dark place.
Such sad news.
I read that in the New Haven Register and immediately thought of Tuba's posting about being contained in a dark place.
Such sad news.
I've was thinking the same thing.
Soulscape
09-13-2009, 09:55 PM
I am not going to post the Professor's chart for the time being.
Yes, he is chauvinistic, selfish, arrogant, perhaps even ruthless.
Yes, he enjoys berating and using women and likely has a mean streak toward them.
Yes, he could have been sexually attracted to Annie Le.
Despite all this, I do not see strong enough connections when I lay his chart into the tri-wheel showing Annie's sunrise natal and the Last Seen.
Regarding Anton Bennett, we do not have his DOB as I write this post.
Thanks,
Soulscape
Soulscape
09-13-2009, 10:11 PM
YouTube - Le Breaking News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWDfyOIkd18)
Human Remains Found In Wall Of Yale Lab
Remains Tentatively ID'd As Missing Yale Grad Student
POSTED: 7:53 pm EDT September 13, 2009
UPDATED: 9:41 pm EDT September 13, 2009
<snipped>
Human remains, tentatively identified as belonging to missing graduate student Annie Le, were found inside a wall in a Yale University laboratory, police said.
The remains were discovered by members of Connecticut State Police at 10 Amistad St. just after 5 p.m. Sunday, the day Le was scheduled to be married.
...
:angel:
<Respectfully snipped and bolded for relevance>
How indescribably sad and tragic.
R.I.P., Annie Le.
Blessings,
Soulscape
FifthEssence
09-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Saturn in the H. of hopes brings disappointment in great expectations and the Moon inconjunct Mercury r. ruling that cusp would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart. A tremendously disruptive influence, Uranus in H. 5 is an influence that dashed hopes.
The Part of Misfortune on the degree of the Uranian planetary node solves problems in a drastic manner in the H. of research and death.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/YaleGradStudent102.jpg
We only know when the subject clocked in. If there was an unfortunate incident, we do not have that time but as to her whereabouts: if such incident happened shortly after she entered the facility, she is to the south in the building & then moving eastward. If the incident occurred at all and was later but before 1:00 p.m., she is at ground level in a dark place and may be contained.
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/post_480.php
The body was found in the basement, said Yale President Richard Lee in an email to the Yale community Sunday night.
quoting Geraldo on TV:
The body was found in a 'chase', or false wall in the basement in the area where she was working.
Excellent work TUBA.
Now we have to find the perp.
Rest in Peace Annie Le. PRAYERS go out to her Family and her boyfriend and Family. So so sad.
Saturn in the H. of hopes brings disappointment in great expectations and the Moon inconjunct Mercury r. ruling that cusp would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart. A tremendously disruptive influence, Uranus in H. 5 is an influence that dashed hopes.
The Part of Misfortune on the degree of the Uranian planetary node solves problems in a drastic manner in the H. of research and death.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/YaleGradStudent102.jpg
We only know when the subject clocked in. If there was an unfortunate incident, we do not have that time but as to her whereabouts: if such incident happened shortly after she entered the facility, she is to the south in the building & then moving eastward. If the incident occurred at all and was later but before 1:00 p.m., she is at ground level in a dark place and may be contained.
Tuba you were right on! I know there is no joy for you in being accurate in this case, but perhaps a satisfaction that the planets do reveal the truth.
Snipped "Reichard revealed that a university student has failed a lie-detector test when questioned about the missing young woman but refused to provide details, including whether he was the same young man who had been led from the building for questioning early Saturday."
Trying to recall Tuba's description of the possible perp; Do remember she said very immature.
FifthEssence
09-13-2009, 10:32 PM
Tuba you were right on! I know there is no joy for you in being accurate in this case, but perhaps a satisfaction that the planets do reveal the truth.
Snipped "Reichard revealed that a university student has failed a lie-detector test when questioned about the missing young woman but refused to provide details, including whether he was the same young man who had been led from the building for questioning early Saturday."
Trying to recall Tuba's description of the possible perp; Do remember she said very immature.
Post # 6. Quoting a possible description of perp:
The person we are looking for loves debate, argument, quarrel, is very immature with a low boiling point. Likely a student doing research because Mars excels at that and this person is in House 9 of university education.
By the sound of it she also nailed the description of the perpetrator, may justice for Annie Le Be swift and harsh!!
Post # 6. Quoting a possible description of perp:
The person we are looking for loves debate, argument, quarrel, is very immature with a low boiling point. Likely a student doing research because Mars excels at that and this person is in House 9 of university education.
I think my hair has grown an inch!!! Goose bumps
Money Girl
09-13-2009, 11:17 PM
From ancestry.com:
Anton Maurice Bennett was born in Jan, Feb, or Mar of 1966 in Haringey, Greater London, Middlesex, England.
Will try to narrow it down to the exact date.
Could this be any more sickening! It seems the time of this was selected for cruelest effect. I'm just crying because so many hearts were broken. Poor, poor bride to be.
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 12:18 AM
Tuba,
I feel for you! How hard it must be to read these charts and know what may have happened and walk around with that burden on your heart.
Your heart... it is a huge one for doing this. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you.
~nurse
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 12:20 AM
Could this be any more sickening! It seems the time of this was selected for cruelest effect. I'm just crying because so many hearts were broken. Poor, poor bride to be.
Tuba, do you think it was premeditated/thought out? Even to the seconds before the commission of the crime?
TIA
static
09-14-2009, 01:01 AM
Is there any way to chart if there will be an arrest soon...
static
09-14-2009, 01:07 AM
http://info.med.yale.edu/bbs/faculty/ben_an.html
info on Mr. Bennett
please remove if this is against forum policy...
I noticed his webpage has been removed
MissJames
09-14-2009, 09:54 AM
Tuba,
I feel for you! How hard it must be to read these charts and know what may have happened and walk around with that burden on your heart.
Your heart... it is a huge one for doing this. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you.
~nurse
Well said ,and I totally agree. There is a reason for your gift,Tuba. I pray it does not cause you undo burden. :blowkiss:
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 10:15 AM
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #3 BODY FOUND
I posted this on the regular thread. It seems the steam came from a lab hood and could have been intentional (once again goes with your chart Tuba)
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 10:59 AM
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #3 BODY FOUND
NHPD denies that a student failed a polygraph
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 01:20 PM
fox news live desk (per other thread) has just reported that there is NO suspect at this time...
Carolina Girl
09-14-2009, 01:24 PM
Apparently, NBC is reporting that, Fox is NOT! It should be with all of the cameras in the building, a matter of time, before they have their perp. Someone leaving in clothes other than what they entered in and such?
salvarenga
09-14-2009, 02:08 PM
The various media reports all seem to contradict each other. I was wondering if any of the astrologers had done any other charts since the discovery of her body that might over any additional insight as to the real story. Depending on what channel you tune in on, you get a different version of events. Tuba, you hit it right on from the beginning. Do you have any additional info to offfer?
BTW, thanks for the welcome back Fifth. I have still been reading everyday just haven't had a lot of time to post. I might not post but I couldn't stay away if I tried. It's way too interesting on this thread. Have the time I'm just reading with my mouth hanging open in awe.
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 02:16 PM
Apparently, NBC is reporting that, Fox is NOT! It should be with all of the cameras in the building, a matter of time, before they have their perp. Someone leaving in clothes other than what they entered in and such?
respectfully, I had just watched it live on fox. I don't have the tv on currently.. perhaps they have changed their tune? The misreporting is very :banghead: . However, here is the latest LE release to debunk the media rumors:
Amid a flurry of national news stories citing unnamed sources, police spokesman Officer Joe Avery issued a release Monday afternoon stating that “no students” are “involved” in the homicide investigation of Annie Le.
“There are no suspects in custody,” wrote Avery, who has been besieged by national media swarming into town. “Right now we are waiting for the Medical Examiner (http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/autopsy_underwa.php) to positively
Identify the body.”
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/rumors_debunked.php
ITA it is just a matter of time
Carolina Girl
09-14-2009, 02:47 PM
Thanks Nursebeeme, sorry I did not see your post just before mine. To say "No students are INVOLVED" leads me to think they know who is!
passionflower
09-14-2009, 03:00 PM
and the perp having scratches or cuts would be what I would also look for if I was LE......she was tiny, but I bet if Annie had any chanse she would throw something
or fight like a kitten.........hopefully she marked the monster!
Aphra
09-14-2009, 05:40 PM
if the perp is someone who was familiar with the layout of electrical wiring and had access to the place where Annie worked, I wonder if it might have been one of the computer guys. I looked at the Yale pharmacology page and the IT guy stuck out at me immediately. MOO
nursebeeme
09-14-2009, 05:49 PM
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #4 FOUND DECEASED
SERIOUS SUSPECT... may be animal tech that had unrequited love interest in Annie Lee
salvarenga
09-14-2009, 09:36 PM
Not sure how much I can post of this since no suspects have been named. But I was wondering if any of you lovely astrologers, could compare a chart for a male DOB 7/21/81. Don't know what else I can list without breaking the rules so if you want more info PM. Or Fifth let me know what I can post.
Let's just say this person fits the personality that Tuba described and if I am understanding what I am reading he works in that building.
Jersey*Girl
09-14-2009, 10:09 PM
Tuba, I just wanted to say that I hope the day soon comes when law enforcement officially recognize this science that you, as well as the other asrologers here, seem to have mastered. What a wonderful gift you all have. As always, I remain in awe of you all.
I do have a question (for any astrologer). It's actually something that's bothering me a bit. In my notes, I have that Annie does experiments on mice. I've found nothing documenting her use of primates. In researching, and with the help of Salvarenga, I've noticed that Yale houses a Rodent Services department, one in which a lab tech would more than likely take care of certain things with the rodents for Annie, as well as any other researcher. I'm wondering if the perp could be a lab tech working in Rodent Services as this could potentially be somebody Annie saw on a daily basis. This is pure speculation at this point, but I'm wondering if your chart(s) show if the perp works with rodents or primates, or is just a "regular" lab tech. If not, I guess I'll just have to be patient until they release the perps name...!Thanks so much for all that you do!
:blowkiss: Jersey
Jersey*Girl
09-14-2009, 10:27 PM
I just thought of something else...Rodent Services / Lab Techs also take care of euthanizing the rodents (and or animals by Animal Services). In your charts, could Annie have been subdued by a needle used to "euthanize" her? Again, just a thought...
Soulscape
09-14-2009, 11:19 PM
Not sure how much I can post of this since no suspects have been named. But I was wondering if any of you lovely astrologers, could compare a chart for a male DOB 7/21/81. Don't know what else I can list without breaking the rules so if you want more info PM. Or Fifth let me know what I can post.
Let's just say this person fits the personality that Tuba described and if I am understanding what I am reading he works in that building.
Hello Salvarenga,
We have learned, particularly from the Haleigh Cummings case, that many charts can appear to fit the circumstances of a crime, yet that does not mean a particular person is the perp.
The sunrise relocated chart of the Male with DOB of 7/21/81 does appear to fit. There are several very suspicious chart interactions, both with Annie Le's natal sunrise chart and, in particular, the chart cast for the Sounding of the Alarm (9/8/09, 12:40 pm, New Haven, CT).
Still, I prefer to wait until a POI/suspect is named by LE/the news sources. I hope you understand my reluctance.
Thanks,
Soulscape
salvarenga
09-14-2009, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the quick response Soulscape, I completely understand your reluctance.
I appreciate the parts you were able to share.
Sal
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 12:33 AM
thank you Soul...
Soulscape
09-15-2009, 08:48 AM
Reports state an arrest is imminent:
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/or...12256187.shtml (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212256187.shtml)
According to the reports, an arrest is imminent as police close in on a lab technician, who apparently failed a lie detector test and was covered in unexplained scratches.
Could this be the Male with DOB of 7/21/81 that Salvarenga brought to our attention?
Thanks,
Soulscape
static
09-15-2009, 09:00 AM
I am not sure if this has been posted, but the comments left by "John Smith" are highly disturbing,,, the time of the comment has been marked and wondering if there is any way a chart might reveal if this person is serious in his comments, or just shock value...ty
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/09/disappearance_yale_grad_studen.php
A spokeswoman for the chief state medical examiner's office told The Associated Press that the cause of Annie Le's death would be released after 3 p.m. Tuesday. The office had been withholding its report to assist the police investigation.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:28 AM
A spokeswoman for the chief state medical examiner's office told The Associated Press that the cause of Annie Le's death would be released after 3 p.m. Tuesday. The office had been withholding its report to assist the police investigation.
bump so we see this.....I was just about to post same...........
majikposhun
09-15-2009, 03:20 PM
Respectfully sniped from the comments section from the New Haven Register from someone who is apparently familiar with parties involved. I have tried to access the website of Bennett Labs, which he refers to and cannot access it.
Comments below:
" I believe i have identified the perp/suspect, however I will not name him here, but he does fit all descriptions released so far and the jigsaw puzzle pieces do fall into place."
Let’s do a checklist / time line of events:
A. XXX attends Yale as an undergrad and works for Professors connected with Bennett Labs. He helps Bennett Labs publish an article in 2004/2005.
B. XXX moves to Rochester to do post graduate work and research on a temporary assignment. He teaches classes to undergrad students and sometime between 2006 - 2008 he becomes familiar with Annie Le.
He develops an infatuation/crush/unhealthy obsession with/on Ms. Le.
C. XXX finishes his post grad work at Rochester and is rehired back at Yale to work back at Bennett Labs where he originally began as a student. He connects again with the Professor in charge of the Lab.
D. Annie Le finishes her undergrad at Rochester where she has meets her future fiancé to be and the man she was supposed to marry on Sunday, possibly in the time while XXX has moved back to Yale. XXX is not aware of this.
E. XXX exerts influence to get Annie Le into the prestigious and highly competitive Yale post grad program. She goes there thanks to his influence and XXX feels she owes him for what he has done for her.
F. XXX works at Yale as a lab tech / classroom instructor for low level post grad students in the Amisted Bldg. Annie is now back in his sights and his unhealthy infatuation continues as she is assigned to work with him on projects at the lab and in the medical complex.
G. XXX finds out about her fiancé and upcoming marriage. He feels betrayed, let down and completely overwhelmed by the situation. He feels anger towards Annie after doing so much for her to get her into Yale. He wants her to repay him with a relationship, but she rebukes his advances.
H. The murder takes place. XXX has a long history of working at the facility and fits all the descriptions offered by the LE of the potential suspect. Namely he is an insider with access to the building and;
1. He knows the nooks crannies the intricate workings of the Med building where she is murdered.
2. He knows how the fire alarm system works.
3. He knows how to use chemicals to disguise the odor of decaying body.
4. He knows hiding places to put the body.
5. He knows the video surveillance system that exists.
G. He is not a Yale student but he is a Yale employee (however he used to be a Yale student in his undergrad years). This explains the contradictory reports some saying he is a student some saying he is an employee but not a student and some saying he is both.
H. Other incidentals:
Bennett Labs WEBSITE (containing the name of XXX) is one of first sites FORCED to be removed from public access by LE.
Annie’s family may have been aware of previous advances by XXX upon her throughout her undergrad years at Rochester where XXX was teaching at the time of her attendance; thus the clue that they provided some helpful information to LE.
The Bennett Labs Yale Professor who cancels class does so because he is unable to contact the Lab Tech who was supposed to be teaching it or present for said class, namely the suspect XXX. The Yale professor is at the time not aware of Annie’s dissappearance..and is unaware that the reason he is unable to contact XXX is because of XXX's involvement in said crime.
Yale's lack of information/honesty in this investigation into one of their employee's who also works for a chair of the department who has previously been charged with Sexual Harassment. Yale is concerned about their liability in this case and may have failed to act when XXX exhibited unwanted behavior towards Annie previously.
I think it all adds up and XXX is our man.
carmenugt
09-15-2009, 04:03 PM
Looks like the rumored alleged suspect l. Z. lives on mansfield ct next to a family member with the same name as him. He is listed to be 29 years old. No facebook page. Also, has addresses listed in dc metro.
carmenugt
09-15-2009, 04:06 PM
I thnk he bound and gagged her and put her in the wall. Only small ant of blood found on clothes. Probably, thought he would come back but building went on lockdown. He could not get back and she died of asphyxiation while waiting. May be, why dogs did not hit on decomposition. She may have not beed dead yet. Poor thing. I think she may have been waiting.
KR2tonenow
09-15-2009, 04:50 PM
I thnk he bound and gagged her and put her in the wall. Only small ant of blood found on clothes. Probably, thought he would come back but building went on lockdown. He could not get back and she died of asphyxiation while waiting. May be, why dogs did not hit on decomposition. She may have not beed dead yet. Poor thing. I think she may have been waiting.
This is what I thought all along as well. I don't think she died until after being placed in the wall.:mad:
YellowDog
09-15-2009, 05:02 PM
My gut feeling is she was fighting so violently that he strangled her to keep her quiet.
Tessie
09-15-2009, 05:42 PM
They are saying at the missing forum that a RJC III is the suspect.
Raymond Clark's Picture
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Here is his picture:
http://www.wfsb.com/image/20929905/detail.html
carmenugt
09-15-2009, 06:01 PM
i thought people were posting said L.Z was the primary suspect.
static
09-15-2009, 06:12 PM
"Originally Posted by Tuba View Post
Saturn in the H. of hopes brings disappointment in great expectations and the Moon inconjunct Mercury r. ruling that cusp would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart. A tremendously disruptive influence, Uranus in H. 5 is an influence that dashed hopes.
The Part of Misfortune on the degree of the Uranian planetary node solves problems in a drastic manner in the H. of research and death"
To me(static) this is a man with a girlfriend, but is obsessive about someone else(annie)
I had posted this earlier but took it off thinking it was a little speculative...now that I am reading about the suspect RC seeing he was going to be getting married , this post makes sense.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 06:24 PM
Tuba,
Could the not happy with marriage stuff that you saw actually be the perp? As he was also engaged to be married!
((aside)) has anyone sleuthed out his birthday yet for the Astros?
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 06:29 PM
~ not in harmony with her approaching marriage ceremony (disappointment in great expectations; would settle for less but cannot achieve the wish of the heart)
~the sign of marriage holds self-undoing
~hidden violence and the truth is camoflaged
~sounding of the alarm was deliberate; Annie was hiding
~problem solved in a drastic maner; research and death; dashed hopes uranus
some of the marriage things I pulled from Tuba's chart earlier on... could all of this self undoing, etc stuff to do with marriage have had to do with RC??? It certainly fits. Again GREAT JOB TUBA!
static
09-15-2009, 06:36 PM
Tuba also said there would be another arrest in a serious crime(to that effect) in this month...I cannot remember where that post is, as much as I wish all of them(killers) would be arrested, this is one that is imminent as the police indicated.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 06:52 PM
I am trying to find his birthday... does anyone have a middle name? I am pulling my hair out trying to find it...
salvarenga
09-15-2009, 07:34 PM
I am trying to find his birthday... does anyone have a middle name? I am pulling my hair out trying to find it...
I assume b/c his name is now all over the news and internet that it's ok to post this....it is a public record from the CT court system.
Raymond J Clark III - Year of Birth 1985
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 07:37 PM
Sal,
Do you have a link? TIA
salvarenga
09-15-2009, 08:21 PM
Tuba, SS, nurse & salvarenga...I'm looking through Myspace for his page & see what info I can find there! :winko:
I saw his girlfriend/fiance's page and she's already marked it private. I haven't been able to find a separate one for him yet. Maybe the MySpace pic of him and the dog was from the girlfriends page.
I'm still on the hunt as well.
salvarenga
09-15-2009, 08:23 PM
Sal,
Do you have a link? TIA
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/SearchByDefDisp.aspx
Go here and type in Clark, R and look for the one with a birth year of 1985. All you will get is his year of birth....month and day are not listed.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:25 PM
Tuba, SS, nurse & salvarenga...I'm looking through Myspace for his page & see what info I can find there! :winko:
I think I already found a page (his solo page) from 2006.. please check these photos out (esp the one with two dudes... I swear that he is dude on the left)
than read the part "who you would like to meet"
it says, "your mother so I could f#ck her"
http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz209/nursebeeme/?action=view¤t=a61fed47.pbr
LetJusticePrevail
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
From this article and if sources reports are correct, RC may have left town...specifically on Sunday, and with his gf. We also glean a little insight on him...at least from the source's perspective.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html
salvarenga
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
Here's an old MySpace of his:
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
If this is him, still not a full DOB but he lists himself as an Aquarius.
*Fifth, delete if you see fit" I'm pretty sure I saw that same pic of him in the brown shirt on another news site.*
Angel Who Cares
09-15-2009, 08:50 PM
nursebeeme I saw that one too & thought it looked like him!!! :eek:
I'll take a look at your pic again!
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
09-15-2009, 08:55 PM
Sal, That's the one that I looked at earlier, but wasn't sure if it was him or not...it's hard to tell from the picture there. It sure is disgusting what all of his interest's are....porn...porn & more porn!!!!!
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
09-15-2009, 09:41 PM
SS, Tuba, Sal, nurse & all....that Myspace IMO is his forsure when I compare it to the new picture of him that the nydaily just released!!! :shakehead: Disuguting what he says on ot....I'm sorta glad he hasn't used that one since 2006....I'd really hate to see what his Myspace says that he uses!!! :eek:
:angel:
Soulscape
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Wikipedia is giving a 7/18/85 date of birth for Annie Le:
The murder of Annie Le occurred in September 2009, on the campus of Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven,_Connecticut) when Annie Le (July 18, 1985 – September 8, 2009), a 24-year-old American doctoral student at the Yale University School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology disappeared from a research building on the New Haven campus. On September 13 she was found murdered in a Yale University medical building at 10 Amistad Street.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Le#cite_note-0)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Le
If Wikipedia is correct, we have the wrong chart (7/3/1985). Can someone please double check this for us? Such a discrepancy would make quite a difference.
Thanks,
Soulscape
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
How can we find out if he has a criminal past?
Angel Who Cares
09-15-2009, 09:58 PM
SS,
I'll see if I can find an obit for her if her family listed one for her yet! I'll try other ways to confirm Annie's DOB!
:angel:
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 10:13 PM
SS, Tuba, Sal, nurse & all....that Myspace IMO is his forsure when I compare it to the new picture of him that the nydaily just released!!! :shakehead: Disuguting what he says on ot....I'm sorta glad he hasn't used that one since 2006....I'd really hate to see what his Myspace says that he uses!!! :eek:
:angel:
IT KINDA (actually REALLY) shows his inner demons doesn't it? It made me have to hit the bathroom in the way I don't normally hit it! I literally puked. Ask my hubby.. He thought I had some strain of the bird flu or something! (it is going around here!)
Money Girl
09-15-2009, 10:35 PM
The only July 3, 1985 birth showing in ancestry.com for CA follows. I do not know if this is Annie Le or not.
Name: Anniemarie Thu Le
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1985
Mother's Maiden Name: Bui
Birth County: Santa Clara, CA
Soulscape
09-15-2009, 10:43 PM
FifthEssence brought to my attention that further down in the Wikipedia entry, in a box to the right, Annie Le's DOB was listed as 7/3/85, despite being listed in opening paragraph as 7/18/85.
Early on in the case, a Missing Person flyer listed two DOBs -- 7/3/85 and either 7/30/85 or 7/31/85.
Now Money Girl has found another source listing 7/3/85.
All our charts were cast and examined using the 7/3/85 DOB. Once we get Raymond Clark's DOB, all should line up if this is in fact Annie's correct DOB.
Thanks to Everyone who is working hard to verify Annie's DOB and to those who are attempting to track down Raymond Clark's DOB.
Thanks,
Soulscape
Snipped from above; Clark did not show up for work - and neither did his sister, brother-in-law or fiancée, all of whom work in the same lab and have the same job.
Check that out Tuba, Raymond Clark has a FIANCEE!!!!
Jersey*Girl
09-15-2009, 11:06 PM
A poster on the Mssing forum posted this a short while ago.
http://bolsavik.com/2009/09/yale-offers-reward-for-annie-les-whereabouts/ Snippet:
Information about Annie Le, from Yale’s press release:
Age: 24 years old, 07/03/1985
Race: Asian female
Hair: Straight brown shoulder length
Eye color: Brown
Height: 4’11
Weight: 90lbs
Missing From: New Haven, CT since the morning of 09/08/2009
Details: Annie Le is a Yale School of Medicine graduate student who has not been seen or heard from by family, co-workers and friends since 09/08/2009. Annie Le’s purse containing her cell phone, credit cards and money was left in her office on the morning of 09/08/2009. She was last seen at 10 Amistad Street wearing a knee length brown skirt, bright green short sleeved tee-shirt, brown shoes, and a brown necklace. … She does not have access to a vehicle. There are no apparent medical issues.
Editing to add that I was so excited when somebody posted Annie's true birthdate, that I completely forgot their name...so this is to give this credit to "cynsational" for the find of the Yale presser with Annie's info. Thank you.
Jersey*Girl
09-15-2009, 11:09 PM
I'm still looking for RC's info. Something's itching me...either not him or he had an accomplice...just a feeling I guess. He was my original poi, though. I'll post as soon as I find it, unless somebody beats me to it...which I hope they do so you all can get started...:blowkiss:
Money Girl
09-15-2009, 11:21 PM
His info from Yale & his ticket state year as 1985...maybe a mixup...wait til we can confirm please...
Another website cites the name Raymond John Clark III, and I cannot find anything for him on ancestry.
static
09-15-2009, 11:35 PM
I removed the posting for Raymond XXX Clark III, as it is probably not the correct person.
Another website cites the name Raymond John Clark III, and I cannot find anything for him on ancestry.
Are you sure ? That would put him at 24 yrs old
majikposhun
09-16-2009, 08:39 AM
If Wikipedia is correct, we have the wrong chart (7/3/1985). Can someone please double check this for us? Such a discrepancy would make quite a difference.
Soulscape - it is July 3rd, 1985 born in Placerville, California.
check out this video - look at 0:14 - is that Ray Clark?
YouTube - Yale Student Annie Le - Tribute
Nandee63
09-16-2009, 09:59 AM
No, that is a photo from high school which you referenced at :14 in the video.
Soulscape
09-16-2009, 10:45 AM
Soulscape - it is July 3rd, 1985 born in Placerville, California.
<Respectfully snipped for relevance>
Thank you Majik for another confirmation of the 7/3/85 DOB for Annie Le. This does appear to be her correct birth date.
We are still looking for Raymond Clark III's date of birth (and place of birth, if possible). TIA to Everyone who is trying to track it down for us.
Thanks,
Soulscape
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 10:57 AM
real quick thought for birthdate hunters... (I have to go out for a bit)... find the article that talks about his abuse situation in highschool... it named the highschool... and we can figure out what town it is in to help search out where he grew up...
I will work on it more when I get back as well....
reeseeva
09-16-2009, 11:08 AM
real quick thought for birthdate hunters... (I have to go out for a bit)... find the article that talks about his abuse situation in highschool... it named the highschool... and we can figure out what town it is in to help search out where he grew up...
I will work on it more when I get back as well....
I think this is the article you mean Nurse?
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/alleged_annie_l.php
majikposhun
09-16-2009, 12:48 PM
I found himin classmates, but I'm not signed up with them! If anyone else is could you see if you can find any info from there? TIA
Branford High School, Branford, CT
http://www.classmates.com/directory/school/Branford%20High%20School?org=3983
Raymond Clark 1999-2003
http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8710378252
Angel, I did a search on him in Classmates and he was Class of 2004 at Banford High School. I hope this helps. I am still doing some searches as well.
majikposhun
09-16-2009, 12:54 PM
OK - He was born in 1985. That's all I have so far.
I found it here: http://gawker.com/5360215/hunt-is-on-for-reported-suspect-in-killing-of-annie-le
majikposhun
09-16-2009, 01:31 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2009/09/16/crimesider/photoessay5314972.shtml?tag=page
No new info here - just lots of photos - and the first one immediately makes me feel uneasy.
Angel Who Cares
09-16-2009, 02:12 PM
Sorry I have to laugh :floorlaugh: at this from RC's lawyer's website!
Criminal Defense
This section will be added soon to Dworskilaw.com
http://dworskilaw.com/criminaldefense.html
I my feeling that :yes:, he will soon have something to add to his Criminal defense web page! My gut tells me that LE has the right POI "Raymond Clark" in the murder of Annie! JMHO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ETA: FYI: HLN said they also towed RC's Mustang away last night!
P.S. Still trying to find RC's DOB SS! So far I haven't found it...I keep hitting deadends or where there are so many Raymond Clark's to pinpoint which one is him! :(
:angel:
Soulscape
09-16-2009, 02:45 PM
What is the official Time of Death?
Thanks,
Soulscape
Did you guys find his Birthdate?
FifthEssence
09-16-2009, 03:37 PM
Did you guys find his Birthdate?
Still looking for his birth date.
We know he graduated Branford H.S. in Branford, CT in 2003, so that 'may' be his hometown/place of birth.
Fifth, there was mention of a speeding violation for this POI right? Just sent you a PM.
And someone said his FB or MS said he was an Aquarius, I believe?
Sanddollar14
09-16-2009, 04:06 PM
Still looking for his birth date.
We know he graduated Branford H.S. in Branford, CT in 2003, so that 'may' be his hometown/place of birth.
Fifth, classmates.com shows he graduated in 2004.
FifthEssence
09-16-2009, 04:22 PM
Fifth, classmates.com shows he graduated in 2004.
LINK:http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=8710378252
Raymond Clark
Branford High School
Branford, CT
Class of 2003
This person has repeatedly been reported as 24 yrs old which leads one to believe he was born in 1985.
Soulscape
09-16-2009, 04:30 PM
This may prove to be O/T.
If, however, RC is both the perp and an Aquarius, it is interesting.
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In spite of the often intensely magnetic, forthcoming and open personality of the more extrovert kind of Aquarian, and of their desire to help humanity, neither type makes friends easily. They sometimes appear to condescend to others and take too little trouble to cultivate the acquaintance of people who do not particularly appeal to them.
They do not give themselves easily - perhaps their judgment of human nature is too good for that - and are sometimes accounted cold. But once they decide that someone is worthy of their friendship or love, they can exert an almost hypnotic and irresistible mental attraction on them and will themselves become tenacious friends or lovers, ready to sacrifice everything for their partners and be faithful to them for life. However, they are sometimes disappointed emotionally because their own high personal ideals cause them to demand more of others than is reasonable. And if they are deceived their anger is terrible. If disillusioned, they do not forgive.
http://www.astrology-online.com/aquarius.htm
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Thanks,
Soulscape
I assume b/c his name is now all over the news and internet that it's ok to post this....it is a public record from the CT court system.
Raymond J Clark III - Year of Birth 1985
Bumping up this post ...
FifthEssence
09-16-2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/SearchByDefDisp.aspx
type his name in spaces provided.
(from post #99 by SALVARENGA)
Indicates 1985 yr of birth for the one traffic infraction the news had reported regarding his past history.
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THANK YOU one and all for all your efforts in trying to find the CORRECT DATE of BIRTH for this POI. What we've collected so far, 'appears' to be good information, that is a 1985 yr of birth and his possible middle initial of 'J'.
Please keep looking if you have a moment as we need the complete DOB.
Thank you!
FifthEssence
elepher50
09-16-2009, 05:05 PM
Another challenging birthdate to find - not found yet as near as I can see. I have to go out for a bit but will be on it when I get back to my computer.
Rest in peace Annie.
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 05:51 PM
finding this birthday has been a pain in my a$$! I hope one of is finds it soon!
I think I read in one of the links that his middle name is John... I will try that...
salvarenga
09-16-2009, 06:04 PM
Have the search warrants (the actual documents) or the return that is filed on what is gathered in a search warrant been made public? If so, I am pretty sure that they will have his DOB listed.
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 06:11 PM
dang it! I think I (and pretty sure... as all the places we know he has lived are the same) found him on intelius but it does not have his birthdate available!
Angel Who Cares
09-16-2009, 06:13 PM
Sal,
The search warrants haven't been released yet! I keep refreshing all of the media with hopes that it will be released! I know if they release that we will have his DOB.
This guys a hard one to find with such a common name to top it all off! :banghead:
I haven't given up....I think I'll try to see if I can find anything from his hometown in thier local papers! :watasec:
:angel:
FifthEssence
09-16-2009, 06:27 PM
Square one: all reports say he's 24 yrs old which mean he was born most likely in 1985 as the one court record shows, or he was born late part of 1984 and will be turning 25 in the last qtr of this yr. Make sense??
We also know his old MySp indicated he was an Aquarius and I don't know how reliable that is as we all know people write all kinds of goofy idenity things on their pages.
At this point, his graduation in 2003 or 2004 isn't going to make a difference.
We need the DOB only.
passionflower
09-16-2009, 08:24 PM
RC born in a town Granfield? I heard it briefly on NG.....might have spelling wrong
elepher50
09-16-2009, 08:39 PM
Nurse et al,
The middle name is John but haven't found his DOB yet. Yes, it is proving to be a pain in the azz. Believe his grandfather died on November 14, 1978. Father's name is Raymond L. and a Jr. on the end instead of III. Mother's name is Diana L.
Place of birth is most probably Branford, Connecticut ... which NG could probably mumble out as Granfield
Birth records for Connecticut are proving to be difficult.
Eleph
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 09:15 PM
elepher... I have found those same names linked to him (Diane and the Jr. guy)... these CT records are driving me crazy!!!!
Money Girl
09-16-2009, 09:21 PM
Nurse et al,
The middle name is John but haven't found his DOB yet. Yes, it is proving to be a pain in the azz. Believe his grandfather died on November 14, 1978. Father's name is Raymond L. and a Jr. on the end instead of III. Mother's name is Diana L.
Place of birth is most probably Branford, Connecticut ... which NG could probably mumble out as Granfield
Birth records for Connecticut are proving to be difficult.
Eleph
If his father's name is Raymond L., Jr., then his name would be Raymond L, III.
What is the source for the name Raymond J, II?
MyTinkieGirl
09-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Check this link...maybe someone can get info from his license plate #....sorry if been said already...didn't read whole thread....
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-yale-student-missing-annie-le-0910-pictures,0,5313732.photogallery
Picture 16 shows his car and license plate...
FifthEssence
09-16-2009, 10:01 PM
If his father's name is Raymond L., Jr., then his name would be Raymond L, III.
What is the source for the name Raymond J, II?
He seems to be he only Raymond Clark III in CT.
http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/SearchByDefDisp.aspx
type his name in spaces provided.
(source from post #99 by SALVARENGA)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/15/raymond-clark-iii-police_n_288084.html
Raymond Clark III: Police Raid Apartment Of Person Of Interest In Killing Of Yale Student
passionflower
09-16-2009, 10:03 PM
http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus/2009/09/16/police-monitoring-motel-where-clark-staying/
maybe ??? DNA back???
static
09-16-2009, 10:13 PM
I think it is... http://www.wfsb.com/news/20953818/detail.html
Cromwell police have been asked to assist in monitoring the room he is holed up in... they are stepping it up.
It is just a guess but I bet they have their tests back and they are awaiting the arrest warrant (which the chief said could take two hours I believe)
I just have to wonder if he knows the jig is up and is going to attempt suicide now.
elepher50
09-16-2009, 10:14 PM
http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus/2009/09/16/police-monitoring-motel-where-clark-staying/
maybe ??? DNA back???
Me thinks his freedom is very short lived right now .... he will be picked up and booked within a couple of hours. DNA don't lie.
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 11:02 PM
I am STILL searching for his (insert expletive... the one that starts with an F and ends in an ing) birthday..
I want him to be arrested soon so we can have the birthday and I can stop LOL
Lovejac
09-16-2009, 11:07 PM
Hello friends! I have missed you all. I see we are trying to find his date of birth, LOL, isn't that always the case! I'll try to do some looking. It would be helpful if they would just arrest him already, makes it easier to find DOB. I remember reading an article that said he was engaged to be married in Dec. 2011??????
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 11:11 PM
Lovejac! I have missed you! Glad you are here to help find the (effing) birthdate!
static
09-16-2009, 11:11 PM
Hello friends! I have missed you all. I see we are trying to find his date of birth, LOL, isn't that always the case! I'll try to do some looking. It would be helpful if they would just arrest him already, makes it easier to find DOB. I remember reading an article that said he was engaged to be married in Dec. 2011??????
Hi Lovejac! It is so nice to see you again, I have missed your posts:) I almost wonder if his legal name is different...cannot find his birthday for anything here
Yes, Lovejac, not one thing has changed. Very good to have you back and you can slip right in, no questions asked because it's the same old pursuit.
nursebeeme
09-16-2009, 11:33 PM
http://www.newhavenregister.com/
there is a dna match. arrest is imminent
Angel Who Cares
09-17-2009, 08:39 AM
SS Documents are sealed!!
:angel:
salvarenga
09-17-2009, 10:21 AM
Just checked both the jail records and the court records to see if they had him listed yet....NOTHING.
Hopefully, even though the records may be sealed the DOB will still show. I think the court records only update once per day so they might not show till tomorrow since he was just arrested this morning. Maybe he will show up faster in the jail records, I would think those would be updated more often. If so, his jail record will also show his DOB.
salvarenga
09-17-2009, 10:34 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/09/17/2009-09-17_lab_tech_raymond_clark_under_arrest_in_the_murd er_of_yale_student_annie_le.html
Raymond Clark 3rd, his head bowed, was led out of a Super 8 Motel in handcuffs and placed in an unmarked police car about 8:30 a.m.
Article also says Le was NOT sexually assaulted and the incident was described as "workplace violence".
Sorry but I just can't believe he would murder her over the mice. If that's the case, then he is definitely a sicko.
BTW, where is the other fiance of his? I would like to see a chart on her to see if she had any idea that he was the killer.
Angel Who Cares
09-17-2009, 10:59 AM
Another New Conference In the Next Hour! I left a link to a live feed for news conference in my post with todays articles!
Thanks everyone for continuing the search for RC's DOB last night & today...I am still not quite feeling well with a fibro flare & my eye infection in my left eye lid has worsened since yesterday....looks like I'll be having eyelid surgerey on the 24th! :eek:
I'll keep on the hunt for RC's DOB as much as I possibly can in between resting today!
I'm am happy that there will be justice for Annie & her family. Sad at the same time
that someone who had so much to offer the world, life was cut short by someone over a possible disagreement, infactuation, or jealousy! :shakehead: :cry:
I wonder if his girlfriend stayed with him at the hotel! :eek: If she did how could she stay in such close quarters with someone who was the #1 suspect in Annie's murder??? :furious:
Rest In Peace Annie & Fly Home With The Angels.....Justice For Your Murder Has Been Found For You!
:angel:
nanny1
09-17-2009, 11:15 AM
Another New Conference In the Next Hour! I left a link to a live feed for news conference in my post with todays articles!
Thanks everyone for continuing the search for RC's DOB last night & today...I am still not quite feeling well with a fibro flare & my eye infection in my left eye lid has worsened since yesterday....looks like I'll be having eyelid surgerey on the 24th! :eek:
I'll keep on the hunt for RC's DOB as much as I possibly can in between resting today!
I'm am happy that there will be justice for Annie & her family. Sad at the same time
that someone who had so much to offer the world, life was cut short by someone over a possible disagreement, infactuation, or jealousy! :shakehead: :cry:
I wonder if his girlfriend stayed with him at the hotel! :eek: If she did how could she stay in such close quarters with someone who was the #1 suspect in Annie's murder??? :furious:
Rest In Peace Annie & Fly Home With The Angels.....Justice For Your Murder Has Been Found For You!
:angel:
Angel,sending prayers your way.
I'm having no luck with his bday either. He is due back in court on my bday tho Oct 6th.
http://gawker.com/5360341/yale-murder-suspects-old-myspace-page
found a pic of his old myspace but no date for the bday but he was Aquarius. Sry if this doesnt help.
nursebeeme
09-17-2009, 03:32 PM
1/28/1985
yup aquarius
here are the court documents:
http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/17/news/new_haven/doc4ab26099008e7985214292.txt
majikposhun
09-17-2009, 03:41 PM
1/28/1985
yup aquarius
here are the court documents:
http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/17/news/new_haven/doc4ab26099008e7985214292.txt
Thank you - I was just about to post the same thing! THANK YOU THANK YOU!
1/28/1985
yup aquarius
here are the court documents:
http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/17/news/new_haven/doc4ab26099008e7985214292.txt
You finally found it Nurse :woohoo:
nanny1
09-17-2009, 05:03 PM
1/28/1985
yup aquarius
here are the court documents:
http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/17/news/new_haven/doc4ab26099008e7985214292.txt
yyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!:dance::dance::dance :
FifthEssence
09-17-2009, 06:13 PM
1/28/1985
yup aquarius
here are the court documents:
http://nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/17/news/new_haven/doc4ab26099008e7985214292.txt
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nanny1
09-17-2009, 06:24 PM
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Our NURSEBEEME is officially crowned the
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elepher50
09-17-2009, 07:01 PM
Tuba,
With Capricorn on the cusp in both House 8 and 9 therefore they must be read together statement, are you seeing more than one perpertrator?
FifthEssence
09-17-2009, 07:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif
ANGEL has opened an ASTRO TIME STAMPED MEDIA thread for this case. It's a great resource for all visitors to our Astro Forum including our Astros who require times and dates of documents, court dates, motions, news releases and the such.
TIME STAMPED Astro Thread for ANNIE LEE:
Astrology-Annie Le TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
NOTE: If you want to 'discuss' an issue from a news story in relation to Astrology inside the current FORENSIC ASTROLOGY-Annie Le Thread, include the link ONLY to the article & a line or two of the text as your reference when creating your post.
Otherwise, all news links & articles should go over in the TIME STAMPED Thread linked above.
When one planet rules two cusps, the result is to narrow the target, not expand it. For instance, in the instant chart the Moon rules both House 2 and House 3, so one planet, the Moon dictates an adjustment must be made in legal representation due to money (H.2) and this affects the defendant's plea, H. 3. Mars denotes that the costs of defending this case would be high. Mars is actually inside House 2 of money.
Now despite the fact that one planet rules both House 8 and 9, there is always the possibility astrologically that others may be involved if that is shown elsewhere in the chart but it does not come from the statement you quote.
static
09-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Tuba or Soulscape, is there any possible way to do a chart that would tell of motive, or if he was stalking Annie prior? thanks so much for all you do
nursebeeme
09-17-2009, 09:17 PM
I cannot wait to see what you lovely astros post per a natal chart...
I posted the wrong chart from my album and I apologize for that. I am working on too many charts. (Right now the motion to dismiss in the Anthony case) I will shortly post the arraignment chart with an eye to motive in answer to your question, static.
nursebeeme
09-17-2009, 09:46 PM
Tuba, thank you for all your hard work! (same goes to the rest of you astros!)
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/ClarkArraignment106.jpg
Soulscape
09-17-2009, 10:40 PM
Raymond Clark's natal sunrise chart shows an afflicted SUN and MOON, suggesting difficulties with both parents. SUN square MOON often (but not always) indicates parents who were not 'on the same page' at the time of conception.
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Case%20Briefings/Annie%20Le/RaymondClarkIII.gif
SUN, the essence of who one is, is also semisquare the VENUS/MARS conjunction in Pisces, giving a sense of both conflict involving male/female relationships and possibly illusions/misconceptions (due to VENUS & MARS being in Pisces).
Further, SUN is square PLUTO which can (but doesn't have to) manifest as power plays/ control issues. This is strengthened by MOON's opposition to PLUTO, which often (but not always) points to control issues with the mother. This supports Tuba's commentary regarding the Arraignment chart MARS in Cancer (Raymond Clark) possibly having an issue about showing (women) just who will wear the pants....
The Sunrise MOON, as well as the SUN, is sorely afflicted. Not shown, the MARS/CHIRON midpoint at 29 Aries may be conjunct the natal MOON. This is another indicator of anger/emotional damage caused by and/or projected onto women.
Thanks,
Soulscape
static
09-17-2009, 10:53 PM
Raymond Clark's natal sunrise chart shows an afflicted SUN and MOON, suggesting difficulties with both parents. SUN square MOON often (but not always) indicates parents who were not 'on the same page' at the time of conception.
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Case%20Briefings/Annie%20Le/RaymondClarkIII.gif
SUN, the essence of who one is, is also semisquare the VENUS/MARS conjunction in Pisces, giving a sense of both conflict involving male/female relationships and possibly illusions/misconceptions (due to VENUS & MARS being in Pisces).
Further, SUN is square PLUTO which can (but doesn't have to) manifest as power plays/ control issues. This is strengthened by MOON's opposition to PLUTO, which often (but not always) points to control issues with the mother. This supports Tuba's commentary regarding the Arraignment chart MARS in Cancer (Raymond Clark) possibly having an issue about showing (women) just who will wear the pants....
The Sunrise MOON, as well as the SUN, is sorely afflicted. Not shown, the MARS/CHIRON midpoint at 29 Aries may be conjunct the natal MOON. This is another indicator of anger/emotional damage caused by and/or projected onto women.
Thanks,
Soulscape
THank you so much Tuba and Soulscape,
I posted on another thread earlier that I really believe if he was into porn like he stated on his myspace a few years ago, it was a catalyst for him. The gender roles are so grossly distorted for people who get caught up in porn. JMO that he resented and yet was drawn to her, so in his mind, she had that power over him. He wanted to dominate her.
Angel Who Cares
09-18-2009, 07:00 AM
Didn't want you to miss this bombshell article in the TimeStamped Thread!!!
Lab tech may have had help hiding body :eek:
Last Updated: 6:21 AM, September 18, 2009
Posted: 3:51 AM, September 18, 2009
<snipped>
The Yale lab technician busted yesterday in the murder of brilliant grad student Annie Le may have had help hiding her body -- and there could be another arrest, it was reported last night.
:eek: Cops are interrogating another employee who works in the lab where Raymond Clark allegedly killed Le, sources told Hartford TV station WTIC/Fox61.
It was not known who that employee might be.
Clark's fiancée, sister and brother-in-law all work at the lab.
Article:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/lab_tech_may_have_had_help_hiding_1bFmFbU8llQLrFlx ZcJojI
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
09-18-2009, 07:26 AM
Thought this may possibly be helpful to you, due the timestamp of what time RC checked into the Super8 hotel! :blowkiss:
At 3 a.m. on Wednesday, Clark checked into a Super 8 hotel in Cromwell where at 8 a.m. on Thursday, he was arrested.[/COLOR][/B]
Article:
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/dpgo_raymond_clark_III_watched_for_days_lwf_091709 _3558704
:angel:
elepher50
09-18-2009, 09:10 AM
I would not be surprised if there are more arrests in this case - good catch AWC.
Soulscape
09-18-2009, 09:13 AM
The 'control freak' aspects of this case now being reported by news sources are clearly evident in the T-square in Raymond Clark's natal chart involving SUN - MOON - PLUTO.
Note the T-square is Fixed (all planets involved in fixed signs). This gives a sense of extreme stubbornness, strong reluctance to change.
With SUN as the focal point of the T-square, his very identity is tied into this energy pattern. (See natal chart above.)
Thanks,
Soulscape
Yes, I should have included the analysis from the deleted chart, because the personality of the defendant charged holds interesting ironies. Although the Mercury - Pluto exact square at critical degrees runs on an imperative to control self, others and situations, the fact that this square is at zero degrees means an inability to even rein in and govern the self because it operates on automatic pilot, the thought processes going wild and leading a life of their own and volcanic urges, Pluto, also assuming mastery.
The event chart midheaven, a particular critical degree, means that the defendant is no longer in charge of his own Fate nor his own affairs yet his reigning desire was to exert control! So this young man as seen at his arraignment is dealing with the same issues Soulscape reports from his birth planets.
salvarenga
09-18-2009, 10:18 AM
I am still looking for the article from yesterday so I can add the link but wanted to add something that stood out........
In one of the online news reports yesterday, it stated that Clark was at the Super 8 motel with his father. It then went on to say that his father was a frequent guest at the motel. I just found that odd. If they live in that area, why would his father be a frequent guest there.....drugs, alcohol, marital issues????
passionflower
09-18-2009, 10:36 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/lab_tech_may_have_had_help_hiding_1bFmFbU8llQLrFlx ZcJojI
help hiding Annie's body???
do we have birthdate for gf???
passionflower
09-18-2009, 11:31 AM
Thanks TUBA for NEW MOON info.........I'm praying the NEW MOON helps the investigator's and all crimes we are looking at...........new ideas, new thoughts,
new starts, etc.
Zoe Bogart
09-18-2009, 11:38 AM
If any of his family is mixed up in the concealment........
Oh my! Reminds me of another family and their private detective.
Thanks to all for the links to the articles and documents. Thanks to our wonderful astrologers for the charts and analyses. You never cease to amaze me with your talents.
static
09-18-2009, 12:50 PM
You know, I was looking at this last night, thinking, hmmm sounds like this poster could be Rays girlfriend. This may be a far fetched conclusion on my part, but I did find it odd that somebody would be that disrespectful towards Annie at this time.
http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/09/annie-le-morning-update-1.html
Zoe Bogart
09-18-2009, 01:54 PM
You know, I was looking at this last night, thinking, hmmm sounds like this poster could be Rays girlfriend. This may be a far fetched conclusion on my part, but I did find it odd that somebody would be that disrespectful towards Annie at this time.
http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/09/annie-le-morning-update-1.html
So, according this girl, it was Annie's fault she was killed? Sounds a lot like the guy who said he rapes women because they are so beautiful! They are essentially saying Annie and those women were asking for it? Nice.
Doesn't matter what type of person she was, she's still dead, and someone murdered her. In our country, murder is a punishable crime. Being nasty isn't. No one is perfect, including the female who posted such an disrespectful message on the internet.
I just heard on the news that DNA has been found in the walls where Annie was hidden, DNA that links RClark to her, and that he tried to hide lab equipment that was splattered with her blood.
Thanks so much for the charts, Tuba and Soulscape. I have lots of astrological homework to do. You ladies amaze me.
So, according this girl, it was Annie's fault she was killed? Sounds a lot like the guy who said he rapes women because they are so beautiful! They are essentially saying Annie and those women were asking for it? Nice.
Doesn't matter what type of person she was, she's still dead, and someone murdered her. In our country, murder is a punishable crime. Being nasty isn't. No one is perfect, including the female who posted such an disrespectful message on the internet.
I don't want to clog up the astro's thread but I had to bold that statement aksleuth and say that it was very well said. Well said my friend. Thank you.
Jersey*Girl
09-18-2009, 06:42 PM
Tuba,
With Capricorn on the cusp in both House 8 and 9 therefore they must be read together statement, are you seeing more than one perpertrator?
When one planet rules two cusps, the result is to narrow the target, not expand it. For instance, in the instant chart the Moon rules both House 2 and House 3, so one planet, the Moon dictates an adjustment must be made in legal representation due to money (H.2) and this affects the defendant's plea, H. 3. Mars denotes that the costs of defending this case would be high. Mars is actually inside House 2 of money.
Now despite the fact that one planet rules both House 8 and 9, there is always the possibility astrologically that others may be involved if that is shown elsewhere in the chart but it does not come from the statement you quote.
Tuba, I quoted elepher50 above b/c I think that's who you're responding to. Re: My bold in your post above, are you saying that maybe the question could be worded differently? If so, do you see in the charts more than one accomplice or accessory to the crime? If so, is there more than one accessory? And finally, could the charts show if the person(s) are male or female?
As I am not an astrologist, I am ignorant to the workings of your charts, only that I'm completely fascinated by these readings...as you all know. If this question doesn't help, please let me know so I may refrain from asking it again.
:blowkiss:
The question was legitimate and the wording was fine but the answer to it was no, for the reasons given.
The chart shows staunch support from the relatives and certain friends, others backing off but it does not indicate the involvement of other lab workers in the homicide, i.e., in the killing itself and that includes the relatives.
seekingwisdom
09-18-2009, 10:19 PM
I am still looking for the article from yesterday so I can add the link but wanted to add something that stood out........
In one of the online news reports yesterday, it stated that Clark was at the Super 8 motel with his father. It then went on to say that his father was a frequent guest at the motel. I just found that odd. If they live in that area, why would his father be a frequent guest there.....drugs, alcohol, marital issues????
Salvarenga, I believe this is the article you were referencing (on p.2):
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/clark_suspected_in_yale_student_tJiEEiIZZxdzECJCdy vz9H
"Clark had been staying at the hotel since he was released from custody Wednesday morning. He'd been taken into custody to undergo DNA testing. His father stays at the hotel regularly, according to people who also stay there."
Jersey*Girl
09-19-2009, 12:34 AM
The question was legitimate and the wording was fine but the answer to it was no, for the reasons given.
The chart shows staunch support from the relatives and certain friends, others backing off but it does not indicate the involvement of other lab workers in the homicide, i.e., in the killing itself and that includes the relatives.
Hi again and thank you for your answer. I should have been more specific in what I was asking. I'm wondering if the charts show any involvement from other persons with regards to clean up and concealment of Annie's body...not an accomplice to her murder. I'm wondering if the perp had help "after the fact", not during the process. I can't get it out of my head...my notes point to him having help with the cleanup and hiding of Annie's body. Sorry for the confusion.
I logged off then remembered I posed this question...hurried to see if you all answered...been on Websleuths for the entire day and I can't hold my eyes open anymore. Hope you have a nice night.
Goodnight. Jersey
WELCOME to Websleuths, SeekingWisdom!!
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-Mish
Soulscape
09-19-2009, 08:43 AM
Hi again and thank you for your answer. I should have been more specific in what I was asking. I'm wondering if the charts show any involvement from other persons with regards to clean up and concealment of Annie's body...not an accomplice to her murder. I'm wondering if the perp had help "after the fact", not during the process. I can't get it out of my head...my notes point to him having help with the cleanup and hiding of Annie's body. Sorry for the confusion.
I logged off then remembered I posed this question...hurried to see if you all answered...been on Websleuths for the entire day and I can't hold my eyes open anymore. Hope you have a nice night.
Goodnight. Jersey
Astrological examination reveals no accomplice before, during or after the fact.
Thanks,
Soulscape
Jersey*Girl
09-19-2009, 09:22 AM
Astrological examination reveals no accomplice before, during or after the fact.
Thanks,
Soulscape
Holy cow! Thank you so so so much Soulscape! Have a nice day!
seekingwisdom
09-19-2009, 11:11 AM
........
In one of the online news reports yesterday, it stated that Clark was at the Super 8 motel with his father. It then went on to say that his father was a frequent guest at the motel. I just found that odd. If they live in that area, why would his father be a frequent guest there.....drugs, alcohol, marital issues????
They have marital issues, if what's printed in the article below is true.
"Clark's parents, Raymond John Clark Jr. and Diane Clark, are separated, according to a person familiar with the family who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the nature of the charges."
http://news.aol.com/article/car-seized-from-motel-where-yale-suspect/677082
Angel Who Cares
09-26-2009, 03:13 PM
Live Link To Annie's Funeral:
http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
10-13-2009, 04:10 PM
Can you tell me if the arrest and search warrant affidavits will be released to the public due to the motions by the Hartford Courant?? TIA I understand you are busy with so many cases, but this has been a question of mine since they submitted them!
October 20, 2009 is the next date for a probable cause hearing & for these motions! No time is posted yet that I can find.
Timestamped: On October 5, 2009 this was delivered, mailed 1st class, & hand delivered to all parties! (No time on the document)
PDF: Hartford Courant's Motion To Intervene
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-annie-le-motion-to-intervene-hartford-courant,0,4018657.htmlpage
Timestamped: On October 5, 2009 this was delivered, mailed 1st class, & hand delivered to all parties! (No time on the document)
PDF: The Hartford Courant's Objection
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-the-hartford-courants-objection-annie-le-html,0,5199392.htmlpage
Thanks SS, Tuba, Fifth & all for everything you do for us at WS's! :blowkiss:
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
10-20-2009, 07:06 AM
Tuba & SS,
I finally have a time for the court hearing it is set for 2PM today!
Three other media outlets have joined the Courant's fight to unseal the arrest & search warrants, they will be heard today during the probable cause hearing!
Here are the motions to unseal the arrest & search warrants:
ACROBAT PDF: Motion to Intervene filed Oct. 19, 2009
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-yale-lab-killing-motion-to-intervene-1020-pdf,0,7056612.acrobat
ACROBAT PDF: Intervenors Objection filed Oct. 19, 2009
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-yale-lab-killing-intervenors-objection-1020-pdf,0,1530758.acrobat
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
11-13-2009, 11:54 AM
Added here for quick reference to compare with SS & Tuba's charts!!! :wink:
Arrest Warrant/Annie Le case
Arrest Warrant/Annie Le case@@AMEPARAM@@/docinfo/22511129?access_key=key-1ho426c13gnf214gij99@@AMEPARAM@@22511129@@AMEPARAM @@key-1ho426c13gnf214gij99
Read the arrest warrant (pdf)
http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/documents/2009_11_13_Raymond_Clark_warrant.pdf
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*NOTE: Added this article for reference of the times noted of Clark & Annie's use of their keycards! :wink:
Yale suspect's floor scrubbing raised suspicions
November 13, 2009
<snipped>
Authorities said they also found in the building a pair of work boots labeld "Ray-C" that had blood-like stains on them, and a hospital scrub shirt with blood-like stains that was similar to the shirt Clark wore.
Le entered her lab, known as G13, at 10:11 a.m. Sept. 8. Clark's card shows he accessed the victim's lab at about 10:40 a.m. and again at 11:04 a.m. and no other locations for 46 minutes.
Clark's key card was the only one used to access a room where blood was found after Le entered the building, according to the affidavit.
"Clark's movements after this entry are considered uncharacteristic for his normal movements throughout his work day," the affidavit states.
He used his key card to gain entry into the room where Le worked and another room 55 times from 10:40 a.m. to 3:45 p.m. the day Le disappeared, according to the affidavit.
Article:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j3Z7m0uROG-_CM8GzpRCqE2M9IbwD9BUPBGG0
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An arrest warrant application affidavit released Friday details the investigation and movements of Raymond Clark III, accused of murdering Yale graduate student Annie Le, during the days after she disappeared on Sept. 8.
http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2009-11/50477458.jpg
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
12-02-2009, 09:40 PM
Faxed 12/01/09 @ 6:03PM/Signed 9/13/09 @ 5:21PM (Signature time found on pg. 7 of this document!)
PDF: Search Warrants: Pages 1-73
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/upload/2009/12/Search%20Warrants%20Raymond%20Clark.pdf
:angel:
FifthEssence
01-27-2010, 01:29 AM
Lab Technician Pleads Not Guilty in Murder of Yale Grad Student
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583929,00.html
NEW HAVEN, Conn — An animal research technician charged with killing a Yale University graduate student pleaded not guilty Tuesday to murder and a new charge of felony murder.
Raymond Clark III is accused of strangling 24-year-old Annie Le, of Placerville, Calif., in September, five days before her planned wedding. He appeared in New Haven Superior Court on Tuesday in an orange jumpsuit with his hands and legs shackled to enter the pleas and to waive his right to a probable cause hearing at which he could have challenged whether prosecutors had enough evidence to try him.
Angel Who Cares
04-07-2010, 03:23 PM
Clark’s lawyers to seek release of his car
Published Wednesday, April 7, 2010
<snipped>
A judge is expected to decide today whether a car owned by Raymond Clark III and seized by police in September will be returned to Clark’s family, said Joseph Lopez, one of Clark’s lawyers.
According to warrants released in December, police discovered a pair of bloody white Converse sneakers, stained hospital scrubs and a dark garbage bag in the red 2000 Ford Mustang, shared by Clark — who pleaded not guilty in January to the murder of Annie Le GRD ’13 — and his fiancee, Jennifer Hromadka. Now, the defense has asked the judge to order police to return the Mustang because they say the car contains no evidence linking Clark to a crime, Lopez said.
Clark’s family is suffering “undue hardship” because one of Clark’s family members, whom Lopez declined to name, co-signed a loan in order for Clark to buy the car and has to make monthly payments on the loan, according to the request.
In addition to the hearing on the car, the prosecution and defense will meet with Fasano in private today to discuss how the case is going.
Clark himself will be at the courthouse today to meet with his lawyers, Lopez said, though he declined to comment on what they will discuss. The defense has not yet decided whether Clark will appear in public, Lopez said.
Waddock said he would not comment on what business might be conducted on the record today.
http://media.yaledailynews.com/media/cache/images/2010/04/07/clark_jpg_200x1000_q85.jpg
Article:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2010/04/07/clarks-lawyers-seek-release-his-car/
Angel Who Cares
04-07-2010, 03:25 PM
Yale memorial concert to be held for Annie Le fund
Published: Wednesday, April 07, 2010
<snipped>
The concert will be held 7:30 p.m. April 14 at Saint Peter’s Church at 619 Lexington Ave. All proceeds will benefit the memorial fund. The event will feature works by Bach, Brahms, Debussy and Jolivet.
The performance will feature Yale School of Music Dean and pianist Robert Blocker, Yale flute professor Ransom Wilson, violinist Akiko Kobayashi, pianist Eric Siepkes, violist Jessica Chang and soprano Francesco Lecce-Chong Idil Alpsoy.
Suggested donation is $25 for general admission and $15 for students. For more information, e-mail yalebenefit@gmail.com or call (914) 434-0573.
Article:
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/04/07/news/doc4bbcc97c709b8588869740.txt
septc
06-16-2010, 03:22 PM
When I read this story back in September of '09 I said to myself I would never watch the news again. It broke my heart. I did however follow this case for awhile but then a few months ago I decided it was best to leave it alone but I still find myself curious. All of this evidence and its taking so long to go to trial. What gives?
There are so many sick minded people in this world. Why do so many people believe that murdering someone is the only option for their problems? If any problems even exist at all? I do hope for justice in this case. I am not worried whether or not if justice will be done or not because I know with all of the evidence its just a matter of time. In any case, there will be another justice that no lawyer can convince otherwise and that justice is God.
Soulscape
03-16-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/16/connecticut.yale.murder.plea/?hpt=Sbin
(CNN) -- A Yale lab technician charged in the strangling murder of a Yale graduate student less than a week before she was to be married plans to plead guilty, his attorney said Wednesday.
Public defender Joseph Lopez said his client, Raymond Clark III, will plead guilty in New Haven, Connecticut, Superior Court on Thursday as part of a plea bargain, though he would not divulge the details of the agreement. Clark had originally pleaded not guilty in January 2010.
R.I.P., Annie Le.
Thanks,
Soulscape
FifthEssence
03-18-2011, 04:29 AM
Raymond Clark III is sentenced to 44 years for the sexual assault and murder of Annie Le
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-yale-killing-20110318,0,7874778.story
As part of a plea deal, Clark, 26, will be sentenced to 44 years in prison, a prosecutor said. Clark is tentatively scheduled to be sentenced May 20.
Prosecutor David Strollo said Le's family was notified about plea negotiations throughout the process. Some of them agreed with the sentence, though some wanted more prison time, he said.
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