View Full Version : CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #7 FOUND DECEASED
Animal04216
09-15-2009, 07:38 PM
continue here. Do not post lists or links to students names.
Sola.N
09-15-2009, 07:40 PM
Wow, what happened to the other thread? I was just reading along and then BAM! No more thread.
jnTexas
09-15-2009, 07:40 PM
so is the other thread pulled for review? I got to page 9 and it bumped me out.
Kimster
09-15-2009, 07:42 PM
so is the other thread pulled for review? I got to page 9 and it bumped me out.
Yes. We need to be very careful about posting names and such. We need to keep the innocent out of it. :blowkiss:
ScorpRising
09-15-2009, 07:42 PM
I finished page 8 but couldn't get to 9...
Thanks Animal!
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Wow, what happened to the other thread? I was just reading along and then BAM! No more thread.
Same here. :(
I bet the Admin and Mods where getting a lot of alerts from users and so they yanked it. Dang it and I was just about caught up reading.
I did find his father and he is not in anyway associated with Yale or a professor as someone questioned earlier.
PoppyH
09-15-2009, 07:44 PM
:crazy:Well shoot LOL I was playing catch up trying to find pics and suspects name , all the sudden the thread is gone
passionflower
09-15-2009, 07:44 PM
My daughter just said maybe Annie found out that this guy and or family was doing something bad in the lab.......drugs, stealing etc........and they thought she was going to squeal.
ges79
09-15-2009, 07:44 PM
Wow, what happened to the other thread? I was just reading along and then BAM! No more thread.
I thought my account had been disabled or something. I couldn't access the ninth page of the sixth thread. :confused:
I was just about to post this when the thread disappeared. This is my last post for the night..............
Scandi
The other alternative is that he is not on the run and is just in hiding in his house. Maybe LE is searching all cars in the neighborhood to make sure that he does not escape and that no vigilantes do something bad (drive bys, etc). I would think that if he IS on the run, we would have had an announcment....
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 07:45 PM
Yes. We need to be very careful about posting names and such. We need to keep the innocent out of it. :blowkiss:
I guess I never got that far, all I saw was initials.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 07:45 PM
Thanks, I thought it was just me and I thought I was going to be put away!
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 07:46 PM
Sooooo, does anyone know why Annie's family didn't make a statement?
browneyes
09-15-2009, 07:46 PM
so is the other thread pulled for review? I got to page 9 and it bumped me out.
I wondered too. I don't think we should be posting links to names and photos until it has been announced that this person is "the person of interest." I also think we should refrain from posting personal info. about his fiancee/family...they are victims here too.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 07:47 PM
I thought I broke websleuths!
I hope this reply is OK- I'm a little afraid of breaking the rules now,
A caller on JVM suggested that there may be a drug connection because of the drugs used in the animal lab. The caller claimed to have worked in a lab and had knowledge.
Hmmmmm, perhaps there is more than one suspect?
Caller is full of nonsense. Remember how I like to rant about rules, regulations, access, and THEY WILL SHUT YOU DOWN!? The "good" drugs are locked up, inventoried, log booked, and administered by veterinarians and veterinary techs. They are not kept where an animal tech could get to them. Now it might be possible someone could manage to swipe a vial once, but there would be a really severe reaction.
Those drugs are more applicable in large animal, not so much in rodents. Research techs might use them also, but the same controls would apply.
There would be no way a tech could set themselves up as a supplier
That's a dead end.
Emma Peel
09-15-2009, 07:48 PM
My daughter just said maybe Annie found out that this guy and or family was doing something bad in the lab.......drugs, stealing etc........and they thought she was going to squeal.
clever girl, your daughter, passionflower!
give her a hi five from emma!
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Could be that since LE hasn't formally named a POI, even though the media has, he's not fair game on here.
Sola.N
09-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Same here. :(
I bet the Admin and Mods where getting a lot of alerts from users and so they yanked it. Dang it and I was just about caught up reading.
I don't think you missed too much. Page 8 had just filled up and spilled over to 9 when the thread quit working for me. I don't remember any new info being revealed in the last couple of pages. The links to the news articles with the possible POI's name were early in the thread, so you probably already saw those.
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 07:49 PM
I've been lurking on this thread, but was trying to catch up and was so behind that I wanted to get to the end before posting.
I used to be a faculty member at Yale in one of the programs that's housed over in that neck of the woods. Labrat and a couple others did a great job explaining the way a lab works.
I would just add that it's not that strange at Yale to have multiple people in a family working for the University and even sometimes within a single department -- it's not just the lab staff. Hiring at the staff level is very much about who you know. Yale has what a lot of people regard as good benefits, so once one person in a family works there, others in the family are interested and get hired as opportunities arise. I believe that HR even has a (widely disregarded) policy about posting things internally before they are posted externally, so that would give people who know someone an edge. I would guess it's similar at other universities, especially in places where the university is one of a handful of major employers.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Sooooo, does anyone know why Annie's family didn't make a statement?
I think I read somewhere no link, a family spokes person will talk for family tonight CA time? or my time at 8pm???
Adrienne37
09-15-2009, 07:50 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j3Z7m0uROG-_CM8GzpRCqE2M9IbwD9AO2C0O0
The family of a Yale University graduate student whose body was discovered hidden in a university research building have thanked their relatives and friends for their support.
The Rev. Dennis Smith issued a short statement Tuesday on behalf of the family of 24-year-old Annie Le. Her body was found hidden in a basement wall Sunday, on what would have been her wedding day.
In the statement, the family thanked its extended relations, the Yale community and friends for their caring. Smith said coping with Le's loss would have been even harder without that help.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 07:52 PM
pending mod approval I have some photos for you peeps to compare... but I am an old crusty websleuther and nurse don't violate the TOS...
esqgerl
09-15-2009, 07:52 PM
I am befuddled. May we post links to news stories or not?
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 07:53 PM
OT
Hey, as long as we need to hold up for a while on discussing our latest topic, I want to go back to the Labrat nic discussion. Instead of reading it "LA Brat," I always figured it was the name of a famous real or fictional French dectective. You know, like Inspector Labrat. Only when all the posts came in about labs did the truth suddenly dawn on me. I felt so silly. :crazy:
Adrienne37
09-15-2009, 07:54 PM
Very interesting article with lots of information...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tue
s.html
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 07:56 PM
I think I read somewhere no link, a family spokes person will talk for family tonight CA time? or my time at 8pm???
Oh duh, her family is in CA. So that should be 7pst, 8mst, 9cst and 10est.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 07:56 PM
My daughter just said maybe Annie found out that this guy and or family was doing something bad in the lab.......drugs, stealing etc........and they thought she was going to squeal.
No. If something were going on like that Annie would not be very likely to be in a position to discover it. The animal techs and the research techs don't really mingle in that way. Everyone keeps saying "in the lab" like all these people are in one room all day. That is not how it is.
I've reported people for violations. You are required to report violations- you don't think about it for a while, you don't tell them you're going to do it, you go back to your lab and you make a phone call.
Drugs are a dead end and there is nothing of value to steal. There is no street value for Mouse Chow.
esqgerl
09-15-2009, 07:56 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
I wondered too. I don't think we should be posting links to names and photos until it has been announced that this person is "the person of interest." I also think we should refrain from posting personal info. about his fiancee/family...they are victims here too.
ita:too much info:
Emma Peel
09-15-2009, 07:59 PM
pending mod approval I have some photos for you peeps to compare... but I am an old crusty websleuther and nurse don't violate the TOS...
nursebeeme, did you see the "interests" on that photo page you posted last thread.
I had a peek earlier. :blushingsmiley:
PoppyH
09-15-2009, 08:00 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
Sounds to me Like Thier POI is on the Lam!
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:00 PM
Good evening :seeya: Nancy Grace is on now!
Bombshell tonight ~ "refuse to release cause of death" and is the crime scene compromised?
passionflower
09-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Very interesting article with lots of information...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tue
s.html
bump.....now we see the 'other sideof him'.......pitbull caged up etc
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:02 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com (http://www.nydailynews.com) and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
Oh no, please tell me the other half didn't do what it says she did.....
ETA: maybe they just went to stay at his sisters house? I hope!
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 08:03 PM
I obviously missed something in between leaving work and getting home. When can we quote several media sources that state's the name of the POI, who is not a student but rather an employee? :waitasec:
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 08:03 PM
OK, since things seem to have gotten quiet...The fact that people in the rental office at his apartment building haven't seen the suspect since Thursday doesn't mean he's on the lam. He could be staying with friends, knowing it was going to be a matter of time before the press figured out who he was, or it could be that his fiance asked him to leave her alone to think, or it could be any number of things.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:04 PM
Very interesting article with lots of information...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tue
s.html
Oh, brother. "Gruesome animal testing"? Please. And you know, how?
Did I mention I dislike reporters?
It is interesting- thanks, Adrienne. I wonder how much is true.
sniperacer
09-15-2009, 08:05 PM
Arg. It seems their person disappeared. Along with his sister, brother-in-law, and fiance - who all work at the same location.
Something smells.
debirlfan
09-15-2009, 08:06 PM
No. If something were going on like that Annie would not be very likely to be in a position to discover it. The animal techs and the research techs don't really mingle in that way. Everyone keeps saying "in the lab" like all these people are in one room all day. That is not how it is.
Assuming for a moment that Annie's research discovered something big - is there any way that a tech could have gotten ahold of her notes (maybe something left outside a sealed area while she was working with the animals) and sold the info to someone/some company - and she got suspicious about it?
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:06 PM
Good evening :seeya: Nancy Grace is on now!
Bombshell tonight ~ "refuse to release cause of death" and is the crime scene compromised?
*SCREAMS* I'm not going to start up again. I promise.
Track292008
09-15-2009, 08:07 PM
Thanks for explaining what happened here on the thread that was suddenly no longer accessible, at page 9. Things seem to be working again now....
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:07 PM
http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz209/nursebeeme/?action=view¤t=a61fed47.pbr
testing this link
ETA: does picture with two guys look like him to you guys? (guy on left)
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 08:07 PM
Oh no, please tell me the other half didn't do what it says she did.....
ETA: maybe they just went to stay at his sisters house? I hope!
Oh wow... I take my last post back. Stopping people on Route 15 sounds ominous -- if that story is to be believed.
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 08:08 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com (http://www.nydailynews.com) and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
I urge everyone to read this link.
Here's an extract:
Neighbors say they saw XXX and his girlfriend, XXX, leaving with suitcases on Sunday around the time cops found Le's body.
"I saw them leaving this weekend with travel bags like they were in a hurry," said a 35-year-old neighbor who lives in the same Middletown (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Middletown) apartment building.
She and another neighbor said the couple climbed in the back seat of a Ford (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Ford+Motor+Company) that had two adults in the front.
"I thought they were going on vacation," the neighbor said.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html#ixzz0RDuVLn TY
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 08:09 PM
Sounds to me Like Thier POI is on the Lam!
Yep, sure does.
Shutterfly
09-15-2009, 08:09 PM
http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz209/nursebeeme/?action=view¤t=a61fed47.pbr
testing this link
ETA: does picture with two guys look like him to you guys? (guy on left)
yeah, and dude two looks like him in ten years IMO
Paladen
09-15-2009, 08:10 PM
reason for no reply ... Could be... At this moment of such grief one would allow for all the time that anyone needs- far be it from me to suggest what "should' or "should not" be done. My most compassionate humble prayers for the family to be given "sapce" until they decide what they wish to do---- Such loss is beyond measure- God Bless Annie Le
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:11 PM
bump.....now we see the 'other sideof him'.......pitbull caged up etc
I don't like what I'm reading in that article at all. :furious: MOO
Sanddollar14
09-15-2009, 08:12 PM
http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz209/nursebeeme/?action=view¤t=a61fed47.pbr
testing this link
ETA: does picture with two guys look like him to you guys? (guy on left)
Hey Nurse, it sure looks like him to me.
PoppyH
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Yep, sure does.
No wonder they have not made an arrest, can't arrest someone if they are missing, would a thunk they would have been wtching this guy
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
That article describes him as he really is and not how he wants to be seen - if he's on the lam, that profile is really scary! If true, how could LE let this happen? mho
Shutterfly
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Has anyone compared the myspace pic of the GF to the girl holding the door of the lab open for Annie? I ask because I can't find either in this sea of words.
Emma Peel
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
I obviously missed something in between leaving work and getting home. When can we quote several media sources that state's the name of the POI, who is not a student but rather an employee? :waitasec:
The problem was explained by a mod as posting links to student names, etc..
The idea that POI can't be discussed was just a question someone wondered about here, after the forum was pulled.
If you're concerned, use initials or find another word to refer to the person.
(A polite word, however.)
Hope that helps a bit. This has been a very nice forum so far. Lots of great input. Just newbies learning the rules here & there, and that's normal.
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but LE had contacted this guys hometown LE today. It does appear they are looking for him.
'Ailina
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
If the POI IS guilty, and if his family (professionals working at Yale, too?!) realizes something is very amiss, maybe there's a chance pressure from them will result in a confession. UNLESS, they get Casey-Anthony-Family-Syndrome and stand by their man.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
Assuming for a moment that Annie's research discovered something big - is there any way that a tech could have gotten ahold of her notes (maybe something left outside a sealed area while she was working with the animals) and sold the info to someone/some company - and she got suspicious about it?
No. several reasons- Big discoveries are long term group efforts- and she was at the beginning of her thesis doing basic research. Your research notes stay in the lab. It would be doubtful that an animal tech could interpret her notes- they wouldn't know what she was working on.
No company is going to pay for a notebook of mouse breeding records and notes about the mice.
waltzingmatilda
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
OT
Hey, as long as we need to hold up for a while on discussing our latest topic, I want to go back to the Labrat nic discussion. Instead of reading it "LA Brat," I always figured it was the name of a famous real or fictional French dectective. You know, like Inspector Labrat. Only when all the posts came in about labs did the truth suddenly dawn on me. I felt so silly. :crazy:
LOL! thanks for the laugh!:clap: I must go ahead and admit that I thought Labrat was LA Brat too when I first saw it!
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:13 PM
The neighbor refers to a pit bull. But, isn't the dog in the myspace photo an English bulldog?
I wonder who is taking care of the pets?
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:15 PM
Has anyone compared the myspace pic of the GF to the girl holding the door of the lab open for Annie? I ask because I can't find either in this sea of words.
I haven't. But that's an interesting thought.
SnowAngels
09-15-2009, 08:15 PM
Go to www.nydailynews.com and click on the top link to the right for a fascinating story on this case.
Oh my gosh. :eek:
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:17 PM
The neighbor refers to a pit bull. But, isn't the dog in the myspace photo an English bulldog?
I wonder who is taking care of the pets?
I just hope they weren't left caged in the apartment. :mad:
does anyone else have the suspicion that the police waited because they thought the family might have helped him- and they wanted to get evidence to get him to incriminate the others?
sniperacer
09-15-2009, 08:17 PM
I don't like what I'm reading in that article at all. :furious: MOO
Agreed. It profiles the missing dude as having a few issues. If true.
esqgerl
09-15-2009, 08:18 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but LE had contacted this guys hometown LE today. It does appear they are looking for him.
Hi Suz. Here it is:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/crimesider/entry5313926.shtml
SnowAngels
09-15-2009, 08:19 PM
OK, since things seem to have gotten quiet...The fact that people in the rental office at his apartment building haven't seen the suspect since Thursday doesn't mean he's on the lam. He could be staying with friends, knowing it was going to be a matter of time before the press figured out who he was, or it could be that his fiance asked him to leave her alone to think, or it could be any number of things.
What, so he's just giving his girlfriend space right now? Don't think so.
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 08:19 PM
Wow... that article... I just can't get over it. He went on the lam?? Police don't know where he is??? Levin, just last night (wasn't it last night?), had a meeting at the med school to reassure people that the crime wasn't random and that the suspects were being watched very closely -- VERY CLOSELY? I hope the story is wrong.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:20 PM
There's also this gawker.com post w/ some high school stuff:
http://gawker.com/5360215/hunt-is-on-for-reported-suspect-in-killing-of-annie-le
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 08:22 PM
The problem was explained by a mod as posting links to student names, etc..
The idea that POI can't be discussed was just a question someone wondered about here, after the forum was pulled.
If you're concerned, use initials or find another word to refer to the person.
(A polite word, however.)
Hope that helps a bit. This has been a very nice forum so far. Lots of great input. Just newbies learning the rules here & there, and that's normal.
O.k., thanks. I said I must've missed something. :crazy: I can't wait for the thread to come back freshly scrubbed, because there was good info about the actual POI.
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:22 PM
Hi Suz. Here it is:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/crimesider/entry5313926.shtml
Thank you! And welcome to WS!
And....are you who I think you are? lol.
debirlfan
09-15-2009, 08:22 PM
All I'll say - if they had someone who had scratches/defensive wounds, and that person flunked a poly... and they let him drive off... somebody needs to get fired - and I don't mean the POI.
Too many cooks spoiling the pie? Yale cops, NH cops, FBI - too many jurisdictional questions, and nobody watching the POI?
ges79
09-15-2009, 08:23 PM
:eek:bump.....now we see the 'other sideof him'.......pitbull caged up etc
More than just a little scary too. :eek:
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 08:23 PM
Here's another article ... http://www.nypost.com/Page/Id/4.0.573578822;jsessionid=D2AA8661EA6A214EEDB3DC623 DE38007
<snipped> The source added that, "Of course, he had scratches on his arm — from his cat."
The source said XXX, who the family calls "XXX XXX," had been working at the university building that morning along with his sister and her husband, who also are lab technicians. XXX's girlfriend is a lab techie as well
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Wow... that article... I just can't get over it. He went on the lam?? Police don't know where he is??? Levin, just last night (wasn't it last night?), had a meeting at the med school to reassure people that the crime wasn't random and that the suspects were being watched very closely -- VERY CLOSELY? I hope the story is wrong.
I still don't believe it was random though. "Random" infers a stranger perp who has no relationship with the victim, imo. I do believe Annie was targeted, for whatever reason. MOO
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:25 PM
www.nydailynews.com
this article says he was last seen by neighbors leaving with his girlfriend, in a hurry and that he looked somewhat crazed!!! I live in a suburb of Chicago so I have no idea where he would head - any locals? Where do you think he would go? TIA
waltzingmatilda
09-15-2009, 08:25 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else have raised eyebrows about the his fiance after reading that article from NYTimes?
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 08:25 PM
I can't believe LE didn't have this guy under 24 hour watch.
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Here's another article ... http://www.nypost.com/Page/Id/4.0.573578822;jsessionid=D2AA8661EA6A214EEDB3DC623 DE38007
<snipped> The source added that, "Of course, he had scratches on his arm — from his cat."
The source said XXX, who the family calls "XXX XXX," had been working at the university building that morning along with his sister and her husband, who also are lab technicians. XXX's girlfriend is a lab techie as well
He also has a cat? :cry:
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 08:26 PM
The neighbor refers to a pit bull. But, isn't the dog in the myspace photo an English bulldog?
I wonder who is taking care of the pets?
It looks like a brindle boxer to me.
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else have raised eyebrows about the his fiance after reading that article from NYTimes?
It's hard not to overlook. MOO
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:27 PM
I still don't believe it was random though. "Random" infers a stranger perp who has no relationship with the victim, imo. I do believe Annie was targeted, for whatever reason. MOO
I couldn't agree more...and pre-meditated! The profile of this guy is really that of a psychopath, he had everyone fooled, as so many PP do.
scandi
09-15-2009, 08:27 PM
I thought my account had been disabled or something. I couldn't access the ninth page of the sixth thread. :confused:
Me too! I almost fainted LOL All is good and for one thing maybe going back to initials would help.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:28 PM
yeah, and dude two looks like him in ten years IMO
check out his comments on who he would like to meet and more!
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 08:28 PM
Here's another article ... http://www.nypost.com/Page/Id/4.0.573578822;jsessionid=D2AA8661EA6A214EEDB3DC623 DE38007
<snipped> The source added that, "Of course, he had scratches on his arm — from his cat."
The source said XXX, who the family calls "XXX XXX," had been working at the university building that morning along with his sister and her husband, who also are lab technicians. XXX's girlfriend is a lab techie as well
Doesn't "Of course he has scratches on his arm -- from his cat" sound like an Anthony quote?
italianangel2411
09-15-2009, 08:29 PM
OMG! I think that they lost their POI? How could that happen? He hasn't been seen since Thursday? Is this confirmed? How is it that he is engaged also and him, his fiance, and his family are all connected with Yale and have access to the lab! I am scared and nervous that he might harm someone else or kill himself.
I got all nervous because it said before that something happened to my account and the other thread stopped.
Yale needs to STOP telling everyone they are safe if they have NOT arrested someone for the murder of Annie. He is obviously still OUT there!
I wish we knew the COD but I understand why they are being mum about it. I hope it comes out soon. Do you guys think this is related to the death of Suzanne in 1998, could someone in his family be responsible for that murder? Wondering if they worked there back then?
Thank you all for keeping me informed! I hope they catch him and arrest him and have justice for Annie! My heart breaks for her and her family and fiance and friends. I can't imagine how horrifying her last moments were.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:29 PM
I can't remember where I read it, but LE had contacted this guys hometown LE today. It does appear they are looking for him.
just freaking great... are we to now look for a murder~suicide in the near future?! (sigh)
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
If they took all their animals w/ them, I doubt they'll get far. And, if they left their animals behind, they'll probably come back soon for them.
Chili Fries
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
check out his comments on who he would like to meet and more!
I would guess that myspace page was made by one of his buddies to poke fun at him.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
LE may want to notify border control Canada in light of this (if they have not already done so)
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
check out his comments on who he would like to meet and more!
And it brings me back to what Tuba said....extremely immature.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:31 PM
It looks like a brindle boxer to me.
Thanks!
'Ailina
09-15-2009, 08:31 PM
And it brings me back to what Tuba said....extremely immature.
I was just thinking the very same thing.
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 08:31 PM
I haven't. But that's an interesting thought.
Well xxx's G/F has long hair and if I recall the young lady who held the door open may have had her hair pulled up. Not sure tho.
I also noticed the g/f's Myspace was visited today but the profile is set to private.
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
Doesn't "Of course he has scratches on his arm -- from his cat" sound like an Anthony quote?
My hope is that LE photographed those scratches since it's possible to tell the difference between a feline's claws and human fingernails. MOO
scubagirl
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
LE may want to notify border control Canada in light of this (if they have not already done so) Probably too late - you can make it to the Canadian border in about 8 hours from CT.
esqgerl
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
I would guess that myspace page was made by one of his buddies to poke fun at him.
Good point.
Shutterfly
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
check out his comments on who he would like to meet and more!
I don't see...where bee???
mikeysmommom
09-15-2009, 08:33 PM
just freaking great... are we to now look for a murder~suicide in the near future?! (sigh)
Well if he is guilty it would save the taxpayers a lot of money if he did become a suicide.
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 08:33 PM
Doesn't "Of course he has scratches on his arm -- from his cat" sound like an Anthony quote?
It sure does.
scubagirl
09-15-2009, 08:33 PM
Well xxx's G/F has long hair and if I recall the young lady who held the door open may have had her hair pulled up. Not sure tho.
I also noticed the g/f's Myspace was visited today but the profile is set to private.
Well - hopefully the police will get the IP address she logged in from (assuming she's not smart enough to use a proxy) - because my guess is that she's still with him.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:33 PM
All I'll say - if they had someone who had scratches/defensive wounds, and that person flunked a poly... and they let him drive off... somebody needs to get fired - and I don't mean the POI.
Too many cooks spoiling the pie? Yale cops, NH cops, FBI - too many jurisdictional questions, and nobody watching the POI?
heads SHOULD roll like bowling balls down a greased bowling alley if they let this guy out of their sight and he is now absconded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jamiect
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
www.nydailynews.com
this article says he was last seen by neighbors leaving with his girlfriend, in a hurry and that he looked somewhat crazed!!! I live in a suburb of Chicago so I have no idea where he would head - any locals? Where do you think he would go? TIA
Disney World...sorry couldn't resist. :crazy:
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else have raised eyebrows about the his fiance after reading that article from NYTimes?
completely!!!!!!!!
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
If they took all their animals w/ them, I doubt they'll get far. And, if they left their animals behind, they'll probably come back soon for them.
This guy is a crazed psychopath - if he comes back for his animals I would be completely shocked. Hope LE finds him alive. Hope his girlfriend lives. Hope no one else is murdered. Yikes...how could LE be this stupid??
ges79
09-15-2009, 08:35 PM
check out his comments on who he would like to meet and more!
If I didn't know his age, I would say the page was set up by an adolescent. Then again, some young adult males do act like adolescents. :crazy:
italianangel2411
09-15-2009, 08:35 PM
Based on the NY article you supplied, I think that the girlfriend was obviously jealous that he might of cheated after that blog she wrote. Also, maybe there was a relationship between the two or maybe just one made up in his mind. I don't think Annie is the girl to cheat on her fiance.
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 08:36 PM
I used to be local, but I have no idea where he'd go. I hope he just went to get some privacy at his brother's house, but he could have driven anywhere -- a bunch of major highways are easily accessible from the Middletown/New Haven/Hamden/Branford area (Merritt Parkway/Wilbur Cross, I-91, I-95, I-84). He could have gone North, South, West, pretty much anywhere.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:36 PM
I would guess that myspace page was made by one of his buddies to poke fun at him.
the last time it was accessed was in 2006
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
Missy70Texas
09-15-2009, 08:36 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else have raised eyebrows about the his fiance after reading that article from NYTimes?
I've always had a hinky feeling about the surveillance footage of Annie Le going into the lab and that girl holding the door, now I wonder could there be a connection.
Concerned Citizen
09-15-2009, 08:36 PM
Oh wow... I take my last post back. Stopping people on Route 15 sounds ominous -- if that story is to be believed.
I can verify the roadblocks on 15 (Merritt Parkway).
Adrienne37
09-15-2009, 08:37 PM
That's just great - we have a potential murder suspect on the loose? I think the cops have TOTALLY DROPPED THE BALL in this case. They want us to believe that it wasn't a random act we are supposed to feel secure in the fact that there are no murderers running around out there? This is just ridiculous!!!!
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 08:37 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
Lots of info in that article!
"Yale graduate student Annie Le (http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crimes/crime-victims/annie-le-PEHEA000002.topic) was asphyxiated and her body was stuffed into a barely two-foot-long crawl space . . .
It wasn't until five days after her disappearance that members of the state police crime squad, with the assistance of a cadaver dog, discovered her fully-clothed body. She was wearing the same clothes as seen in a video of her entering the building last Tuesday morning, a source said.
. . .
The source said evidence recovered from the crime scene indicates that Le was killed in a different room in the basement laboratory and then moved to a second room where the crawl space was located.
. . .
The source said tiny droplets of blood were found in one of the laboratory rooms where police now believe the murder took place. . .
The "person of interest" has worked for the Yale Animal Research Center for at least four years. "
Chili Fries
09-15-2009, 08:37 PM
Pure speculation...but I think he may have had discussions with Annie about them both having impending weddings. Maybe he twisted that into feeling an intimate bond with her. Perhaps she even lightly vented to him about something related to the wedding and he blew it up in his mind where he thought he had to "save" her from making a mistake. Of course he could just have become very obsessed from mere casual contact with her but it's something that crossed my mind.
panthera
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
According to a "source" although the ME didn't want the COD released. :waitasec: MOO
Coolmomof4
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
If the previously posted article is correct and he took off with his fiance and two other people in an SUV, I would guess it was his sister and her husband who also work in the lab. (although I think I saw somewhere else they have kids). But if this is the case, I wonder if something illegal was going on at the lab with these 4 and Annie Le found out.
JMO.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
I don't see...where bee??? sorry..my brain is mush after working open heart all day..
here goes:
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
Based on the NY article you supplied, I think that the girlfriend was obviously jealous that he might of cheated after that blog she wrote. Also, maybe there was a relationship between the two or maybe just one made up in his mind. I don't think Annie is the girl to cheat on her fiance.
He was with Annie in his FANTASIES ONLY! Until he acted on them.
esqgerl
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
Read this article carefully:
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
BritDees
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
And it brings me back to what Tuba said....extremely immature.
And didn't she also say something about him possibly going into hiding?
Here's what I don't get, I can understand him conniving his girlfriend that he's innocent (except in my book, innocent people don't run and hide) but how could he convince his sister AND her husband?
Just sounds to me that perhaps they were all in on it or he's a really good manipulator.
My ex was a good manipulator, but my family had him pegged way before I did!
passionflower
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
If family worked with him, did they also come out during fire alarm?
Just wondering if he had help!
Crime scene was contaminated by everyone in and out..........NG
2 reporters from YALE ...............
I think that LE had mentioned 'gruesome' crime scene, bloody clothes
etc........strangulation NOT..........and not immediate ID
Now I am thinking wedding had nothing to do with her death.......
the perp thought everyone would just think runaway bride, etc........
and then she never came back....planned.......arghhhh
ges79
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
That's just great - we have a potential murder suspect on the loose? I think the cops have TOTALLY DROPPED THE BALL in this case. They want us to believe that it wasn't a random act we are supposed to feel secure in the fact that there are no murderers running around out there? This is just ridiculous!!!!
And it only adds to the unimaginable pain and suffering of Annie's family and fiance. :mad:
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
I can verify the roadblocks on 15 (Merritt Parkway). CC, thank you for that boots on the ground report! And welcome to websleuths!
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:40 PM
Here is a distorted picture of the surveillance pic. Pic 47. I know there is a better one out there somewhere.
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-yale-student-missing-annie-le-0910-pictures,0,5313732.photogallery
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:41 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
The Hartford Courant has very good sources. I guess with the POI missing, there's no Plan B? Or, do you think the leaks are deliberate?
passionflower
09-15-2009, 08:41 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
guess my theory was wrong........sorry
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 08:42 PM
The "person of interest" has worked for the Yale Animal Research Center for at least four years. " one article I read posted here said that he had moved from Branford to Middletown (current addy) FOUR YEARS AGO. How much you wanna bet his sister got him that animal job four years ago?
Adrienne37
09-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Nancy Grace just reporting that the Amistad Building was left unsecure between the time of Annie's disappearance until Saturday. The Yale newspaper correspondent confirmed this.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
OT
Hey, as long as we need to hold up for a while on discussing our latest topic, I want to go back to the Labrat nic discussion. Instead of reading it "LA Brat," I always figured it was the name of a famous real or fictional French dectective. You know, like Inspector Labrat. Only when all the posts came in about labs did the truth suddenly dawn on me. I felt so silly.
LOL! thanks for the laugh!:clap: I must go ahead and admit that I thought Labrat was LA Brat too when I first saw it!
Lol- and to think I thought it was so clear when I chose it! Look!! I found an avatar.
scandi
09-15-2009, 08:43 PM
I can't believe LE didn't have this guy under 24 hour watch.
ITA Recovering-Lurker, They must have noticed the scratches on his chest before Thursday as that was when he was last seen. And they would have known he worked in the basement and had a key card for access. That alone should have sent the hairs on their necks straight up!
I still think the NHPD might be more liberal than Yale in it's perspective and that dichotomy has to have influenced the way this crime has been or still is being handled. IMO and just sayin' Usually I am the one who always backs up LE. Just sayin'
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:43 PM
sorry..my brain is mush after working open heart all day..
here goes:
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
He is a disgusting creature isn't he nurse? Seems that all the enablers around him minimized and looked the other way. Were they fearful? Maybe this is exactly who Annie was writing about when doing her article on safety.
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 08:44 PM
"Yale graduate student Annie Le was asphyxiated"
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/yale-annie-le/hc-annie-le-autopsy-yale-student-murdered-cause-of,0,4101796.story
Amazing. I haven't read the article yet, but I am assuming it's ANOTHER leak, not a formal announcement You'd think that the police would button up and get a little discipline.
italianangel2411
09-15-2009, 08:44 PM
if it was by strangulation why the blood? why couldnt they id her immediately?
2 foot crawl space? how could her body fit in there?
is this cod confirmed?
i am afraid that the crime scene could very well be contaminated and i blame yale for that and i dont think they should of opened the building back up today. yale had a ethical obligation to the safety of its students, especially in THEIR building and that includes Annie. they should of had cameras inside their building and made sure safety is a top priority.
PrayersForMaura
09-15-2009, 08:45 PM
wow, totally botched this one. How did that guy possibly get away? He left FRIDAY??? FRIDAY? Shoot, he's probably in Mexico or Canada by now....
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:45 PM
Based on the NY article you supplied, I think that the girlfriend was obviously jealous that he might of cheated after that blog she wrote. Also, maybe there was a relationship between the two or maybe just one made up in his mind. I don't think Annie is the girl to cheat on her fiance.
I don't think that's about Annie. I think that was a different girl altogether.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:47 PM
the last time it was accessed was in 2006
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
I once read that most criminals are Aquarians and Scorpios. Don't know how true that is, tho!
If it's true that he's that into porn (and his who he'd like to meet statement is aggressive, hostile and antisocial), then he does a lot of fantasizing and is probably misogynistic. Despite what the GF said about his naivete. BS.
'Ailina
09-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Just a theory, but if Annie was indeed asphyxiated, that's evidence of a crime of a personal nature. That doesn't seem to fit with the theory she discovered something she shouldn't have.
And I don't think POI's family members who worked at the facility would have supported -- much less aided -- him in murdering someone over a personal issue.
I think the family (specifically the two "adults" in the front of the SUV) helped relocated him and his fiance because they're under the impression he hasn't done anything wrong. Either (as someone mentioned earlier), he's made up another story, or he has manipulated them with excuses.
Either way, his flight seems very indicative of guilt. His family has got to come forward sooner or later if they want to keep their Yale jobs and reputations. I can't see them sacrificing all of it for the POI.
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 08:49 PM
Amazing. I haven't read the article yet, but I am assuming it's ANOTHER leak, not a formal announcement You'd think that the police would button up and get a little discipline.
Is that the wrong video - that information was form 7:00 this morning. Cause of death hasn't been released yet. What have I missed? TIA
PrayersForMaura
09-15-2009, 08:49 PM
I have to admit, I feel sorry for this creep's dog. I am an animal lover and hope that the dog is safe from HIM!!!
scandi
09-15-2009, 08:49 PM
LOL! thanks for the laugh!:clap: I must go ahead and admit that I thought Labrat was LA Brat too when I first saw it!
I immediately knew he was a lab rat and am so thankful he found Websleuths!
italianangel2411
09-15-2009, 08:49 PM
LE has been staking out his apartment for two days now, per the article.
WHAT!
They are trying to determine if she was sexually assaulted, but it states she was fully clothed? I hope she wasn't.
She was murdered in a different room and found in another where the crawl space is and someone who knows the layout and LE had to tear down the wall to get to the crawl space where she was found.
Who would feel comfortable to use different rooms? How did he know no one was going to come down and walk in on the murder?
sniperacer
09-15-2009, 08:50 PM
I can't believe LE didn't have this guy under 24 hour watch.
Oh He2hockeysticks. The whole neighborhood saw them pack up and leave. How many folks were at the basement lab at the time in question? Couldn't be so many - there weren't enough folks to see anything. Police should be watching them all.
Me thinks the police have a small problem.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
if it was by strangulation why the blood? why couldnt they id her immediately?
2 foot crawl space? how could her body fit in there?
is this cod confirmed?
i am afraid that the crime scene could very well be contaminated and i blame yale for that and i dont think they should of opened the building back up today. yale had a ethical obligation to the safety of its students, especially in THEIR building and that includes Annie. they should of had cameras inside their building and made sure safety is a top priority.
Depends on what he used to strangle her, I think.
The hyoid bone is broken when someone is strangled but I don't know if this would cause bleeding.
According to a cnn article posted yesterday (I'm sorry I don't have the link) there are a total of 75 cameras: 70 cameras inside and 5 outside. None in the basement, unfortunately, but the basement is a highly secure area where Annie had to swipe twice to get in (I recently read this; don't have the source but I can look it up).
passionflower
09-15-2009, 08:53 PM
the last time it was accessed was in 2006
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
He has 1 friend on this space and I swear I have seen that same photo somewhere before??? familiar to anyone?????
Ha the joke is on me..........that guy is the FOUNDER and PRESIDENT of my space..........a joke I guess.......
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:54 PM
LE has been staking out his apartment for two days now, per the article.
WHAT!
They are trying to determine if she was sexually assaulted, but it states she was fully clothed? I hope she wasn't.
She was murdered in a different room and found in another where the crawl space is and someone who knows the layout and LE had to tear down the wall to get to the crawl space where she was found.
Who would feel comfortable to use different rooms? How did he know no one was going to come down and walk in on the murder?
And as other lab rats here and his family source pointed out, it's a busy time of day. How could that happen with so many people around? Unless those other people were involved. Just sayin......
Chili Fries
09-15-2009, 08:55 PM
He has 1 friend on this space and I swear I have seen that same photo somewhere before??? familiar to anyone?????
He's the guy who started Myspace. He's everybody's friend automatically.
nervous_nellie
09-15-2009, 08:56 PM
OT
Hey, as long as we need to hold up for a while on discussing our latest topic, I want to go back to the Labrat nic discussion. Instead of reading it "LA Brat," I always figured it was the name of a famous real or fictional French dectective. You know, like Inspector Labrat. Only when all the posts came in about labs did the truth suddenly dawn on me. I felt so silly. :crazy:
HA! ME TOO!! But the new avatar is GREAT! maybe a french mouse:crazy:
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Depends on what he used to strangle her, I think.
The hyoid bone is broken when someone is strangled but I don't know if this would cause bleeding.
According to a cnn article posted yesterday (I'm sorry I don't have the link) there are a total of 75 cameras: 70 cameras inside and 5 outside. None in the basement, unfortunately, but the basement is a highly secure area where Annie had to swipe twice to get in (I recently read this; don't have the source but I can look it up).
In other strangulation cases at WS there have been small amounts of blood involved. IIRC, those were nosebleeds? And also IIRC, it was reported that the blood was not Annie's. I would love to provide links, but I have no clue where to start looking. So take my post for what it's worth. :crazy:
Missy70Texas
09-15-2009, 08:57 PM
I don't think that's about Annie. I think that was a different girl altogether.
Maybe he was telling the girlfriend that there was a relationship between him and Annie, his a sicko obviously, remember the Texas Cadet Murder, that couple killed a girl to "purify" their relationship after the the boyfriend told his girlfriend, Diane Zamora, that he had slept with the victim 16 year old Adrienne, a very sick relationship. Later it came out that he had lied about sleeping with her. I'm beginning to think there are two perps here.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Depends on what he used to strangle her, I think.
The hyoid bone is broken when someone is strangled but I don't know if this would cause bleeding.
According to a cnn article posted yesterday (I'm sorry I don't have the link) there are a total of 75 cameras: 70 cameras inside and 5 outside. None in the basement, unfortunately, but the basement is a highly secure area where Annie had to swipe twice to get in (I recently read this; don't have the source but I can look it up).
It was reported that there was a "small amount" of blood on the clothes hidden above the ceiling tiles. It might have only been his- from the scratches.
angeleleven
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Depends on what he used to strangle her, I think.
The hyoid bone is broken when someone is strangled but I don't know if this would cause bleeding.
According to a cnn article posted yesterday (I'm sorry I don't have the link) there are a total of 75 cameras: 70 cameras inside and 5 outside. None in the basement, unfortunately, but the basement is a highly secure area where Annie had to swipe twice to get in (I recently read this; don't have the source but I can look it up).
I thought all the cameras were outside.
panthera
09-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Nancy Grace just reporting that the Amistad Building was left unsecure between the time of Annie's disappearance until Saturday. The Yale newspaper correspondent confirmed this.
Yes, a defense attorneys dream come true. MOO
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Maybe he was telling the girlfriend that there was a relationship between him and Annie, his a sicko obviously, remember the Texas Cadet Murder, that couple killed a girl to "purify" their relationship after the the boyfriend told his girlfriend, Diane Zamora, that he had slept with the victim 16 year old Adrienne, a very sick relationship. Later it came out that he had lied about sleeping with her. I'm beginning to think there are two perps here.
And I believe there is a recent case from NY or NJ. I can't remember the names associated with it though.
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
Lol- and to think I thought it was so clear when I chose it! Look!! I found an avatar.
Thanks, I always do better with pictures.
Back to topic--
When was the body moved from the murder lab to the hiding-place lab?
Would that basement have been crowded with people, or mainly empty? Do you think the fire alarm was used to clear out the hallway? Could Annie's body have been in the murder lab for a while without being discovered if no one was signed up for that lab? Could the perp have written a bunch of fictional names on the door sign-up sheet to keep people from reserving the labs after the murder?
Animal04216
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
It is fine to post links to news stories. I see that they have named a POI so you may discuss him. The problem with the last thread is I had so many alerts on links to students names that arent involved.
nursebeeme
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
The Hartford Courant has very good sources. I guess with the POI missing, there's no Plan B? Or, do you think the leaks are deliberate?
Miss Emily,
I think at this point in time they simply CANNOT CONTAIN THE LEAKS. Once they stormed the property the names of that property were fair game. The early leaks, well, I don't think they were deliberate.... just loose lips. I hardly think, however, that those loose lips sunk the ship if RC has absconded... that is ALL ON LE in MHOO. It will show they weren't 'on their man'.
((warning... scathing nurse opinion follows))... and why weren't they on their man as the Yale president told med students in their briefing? Why did they let eyes off him for a nanosecond? If he truly has 'left the room' and I were the family of Annie LE I would take him to the freaking bank! Not to mention the crime scene was sealed too late and opened too early. Seriously.. must we school Yale ? ((((ending rant early... I don't want a time out...)
Lorma
09-15-2009, 09:02 PM
It does kind of make you wonder about the girlfriend,,, the girl in the picture 47, that was posted, holding the door of Annie, looked like she had gloves on...
Just noticed that,,,
Lorma
babycat
09-15-2009, 09:02 PM
I have no idea if this will help you guys, or if you already know it, but this is something to use when looking at someone's thumbnail (profile pic, etc) online..especially if the myspace profile is private.
To see a thumbnail photo in full size, do this
right click on the thumbnail photo then select "view image"
then, if the address looks like this
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/108/m_2b0fc1c34941641a9fe785274f34a7ea.jpg
change the m (or sometimes s...for small, medium) to a "l" (for large) and you can usually see the pic full size.
Hope that helps while people are digging through pics/profiles:)
PS that photo/link I just posted shouldn't be to anything, that address is just an example. you'll have to try it on a profile pic yourself:) It only works for their default pic, though! Otherwise it would violate privacy...
doesn't seem to work on facebook, though
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:02 PM
LE has been staking out his apartment for two days now, per the article.
WHAT!
They are trying to determine if she was sexually assaulted, but it states she was fully clothed? I hope she wasn't.
She was murdered in a different room and found in another where the crawl space is and someone who knows the layout and LE had to tear down the wall to get to the crawl space where she was found.
Who would feel comfortable to use different rooms? How did he know no one was going to come down and walk in on the murder?
just maybe he had a person as a look out..........
hyldo
09-15-2009, 09:04 PM
If the previously posted article is correct and he took off with his fiance and two other people in an SUV, I would guess it was his sister and her husband who also work in the lab. (although I think I saw somewhere else they have kids). But if this is the case, I wonder if something illegal was going on at the lab with these 4 and Annie Le found out.
JMO.
The family could be trying to take him to Canada. Canada won't extradite if the suspect will face the death penalty. If they cross into Canada, they're assured of sparing his life, even if it would be spent in prison.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Was the girl holding the door open for Annie, the girlfriend or family member???
The sources have been right all along about this POI. Given that, the sources said he had lawyered up. LE may know how to contact him through his lawyer. My guess would be that his or her parents are keeping them out of the limelight. Also that ticket in Wallingford, CT area in 2003 might be a clue as to his area.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:06 PM
Has the perp ever had a criminal past?
panthera
09-15-2009, 09:06 PM
just maybe he had a person as a look out..........
It does make me wonder since they're both unaccounted for right now. MOO
Avery
09-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Do we know if this POI went back to work on that Wednesday? If so, how absolutley CREEPY, knowing that she was there. Also, it will be interesting to see where this person parked. If I'm not mistaken, there was a parking garage attached. There would be some consistancy to his comings and goings from the building based on work schedule. Just thinking if anything about Tuesday seemed off in that schedule, i.e...maybe he didn't exit when the alarm tripped. Or, stayed later maybe left earlier and then again the next day. IDK, just thinking out loud.
lucky181
09-15-2009, 09:10 PM
I can't imagine the gf or family member assisting him in murder. If so, the world is worse off than I thought. I think he has convinced them that he is innocent, that Yale needs to pin this murder on someone, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, etc, etc. Many family members believe their loved ones, perhaps because the opposite is just too hard to deal with.
I should add that I'm referring to the female opening the door for Annie.
Paulette
09-15-2009, 09:11 PM
sorry..my brain is mush after working open heart all day..
here goes:
http://www.myspace.com/140451154
Yikes!
awakewriter
09-15-2009, 09:13 PM
can someone post a security photo, pretty please?
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 09:14 PM
The sources have been right all along about this POI. Given that, the sources said he had lawyered up. LE may know how to contact him through his lawyer. My guess would be that his or her parents are keeping them out of the limelight. Also that ticket in Wallingford, CT area in 2003 might be a clue as to his area.
I think that LE may have said that he was interviewed several times, had lawyered up and wasn't answering questions anymore, because they messed up and LOST HIM! They were trying to cover their you-know-whats. This does not look good for them: the crime scene could be contaminated; they didn't find Annie for several days, even though they knew she didn't leave the building; and they had someone who failed a poly and had defensive wounds who wasn't under constant surveillance. :banghead: I'm not one to criticize LE, but I just have to in this case, at least at this point.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Thanks, I always do better with pictures.
Back to topic--
When was the body moved from the murder lab to the hiding-place lab?
Would that basement have been crowded with people, or mainly empty? Do you think the fire alarm was used to clear out the hallway? Could Annie's body have been in the murder lab for a while without being discovered if no one was signed up for that lab? Could the perp have written a bunch of fictional names on the door sign-up sheet to keep people from reserving the labs after the murder?
I can tell you what I would have done. I would have gotten one of the large draped caging supply racks, put the body in it, zipped up the drape, rolled it into the other room, positioned the rack between the access panel and the door to block the view of anyone peeking into the room, and that would be that. If it were a mouse room, I would reposition a few mouse racks for additional cover.
Anyone who saw me in the hall would think I was taking supplies to a room. Researchers coming in generally go straight to their mouse rooms, and animal techs should be inside rooms working at that time. It's not like people congregate in the hall chatting.
Columbo
09-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Was the girl holding the door open for Annie, the girlfriend or family member???
I don't think we know who that girl is.
OneLostGrl
09-15-2009, 09:17 PM
I once read that most criminals are Aquarians and Scorpios. Don't know how true that is, tho!
If it's true that he's that into porn (and his who he'd like to meet statement is aggressive, hostile and antisocial), then he does a lot of fantasizing and is probably misogynistic. Despite what the GF said about his naivete. BS.
I dunno, it looks to me like it's a joke.. like whoever made the profile was messing around. I don't think it's someones real profile.
cook78
09-15-2009, 09:20 PM
I may have missed someone pointing this out already but did anyone notice that someone has recently (TODAY) logged into the Myspace account that the POI shares with his girlfriend?
I wonder if LE can trace where they log in from?
scandi
09-15-2009, 09:20 PM
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Disney World...sorry couldn't resist. :crazy:
Me neither, I think he has taken on the look of the lab animals he cares for. A bit ratish looking in that photo with the ball cap!
PS: Hope I didn't offend anyone and know he is only a POI. I am an artist and was struck by the resemblance. xox
I think that LE may have said that he was interviewed several times, had lawyered up and wasn't answering questions anymore, because they messed up and LOST HIM! They were trying to cover their you-know-whats. This does not look good for them: the crime scene could be contaminated; they didn't find Annie for several days, even though they knew she didn't leave the building; and they had someone who failed a poly and had defensive wounds who wasn't under constant surveillance. :banghead: I'm not one to criticize LE, but I just have to in this case, at least at this point.
IDK, you could be right. The road block is strange. jmo
Recovering-Lurker
09-15-2009, 09:21 PM
I can tell you what I would have done. I would have gotten one of the large draped caging supply racks, put the body in it, zipped up the drape, rolled it into the other room, positioned the rack between the access panel and the door to block the view of anyone peeking into the room, and that would be that. If it were a mouse room, I would reposition a few mouse racks for additional cover.
Anyone who saw me in the hall would think I was taking supplies to a room. Researchers coming in generally go straight to their mouse rooms, and animal techs should be inside rooms working at that time. It's not like people congregate in the hall chatting.
I so appreciate your input, but my God that's creepy. :eek:
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 09:23 PM
I hope they are still in the apartment.
http://www.wfsb.com/news/20929480/detail.html
(snip)
A listing on a wedding Web site lists a wedding date for Clark and his girlfriend for Dec. 20, 2011. Neighbors said the girlfriend was seen moving things out of the Middletown apartment on Monday, but that she brought take-out food into the home on Tuesday.
The girlfriend's parents told Eyewitness News that the reason no arrest has been made in connection with the case is because police are awaiting the results of forensic tests on clothing.
Eyewitness News attempted to contact Clark Tuesday, but he did not answer his phone.
CharlotteH
09-15-2009, 09:31 PM
I hope they are still in the apartment.
http://www.wfsb.com/news/20929480/detail.html
(snip)
A listing on a wedding Web site lists a wedding date for Clark and his girlfriend for Dec. 20, 2011. Neighbors said the girlfriend was seen moving things out of the Middletown apartment on Monday, but that she brought take-out food into the home on Tuesday.
The girlfriend's parents told Eyewitness News that the reason no arrest has been made in connection with the case is because police are awaiting the results of forensic tests on clothing.
Eyewitness News attempted to contact Clark Tuesday, but he did not answer his phone.
This is confusing. Do they mean last Tuesday when referring to when they had takeout, and then this Tuesday as the day Eyewitness News tried to call him?
panthera
09-15-2009, 09:36 PM
This is confusing. Do they mean last Tuesday when referring to when they had takeout, and then this Tuesday as the day Eyewitness News tried to call him?
The whole thing is confusing because the apt. mgr. said no one had seen him since Thursday then it shifts back and forth naming "Tuesdays" ~ well, there was last Tuesday 9/8 when Annie was killed, and today is Tuesday ~ so I'm :confused: too!!
sniperacer
09-15-2009, 09:36 PM
I dunno, it looks to me like it's a joke.. like whoever made the profile was messing around. I don't think it's someones real profile.
Yes. I thought it was obvious that it is a fake / joke or whatever profile. I guess everyone is free to read it anyway they wish.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:37 PM
IMO, if the LE doesn't get him by tonight, he is gone..........
why so much time?
LE has to have some DNA by now and enough evidence to hold him.
Something is VERY off, IMO
And LE had the gaul to say that everyone was safe that Annie was the target.
Dah, a killer is on the loose, no one is safe.........
He would have different thoughts now......do anything to stay free and run??? IMO
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 09:37 PM
I thought all the cameras were outside.
Shoot, I can't find it now! Spent the last 20 minutes searching for it! I distinctly remember the ratio being 70:5? It was a link posted last night?
Anyways, the best I could do right now is this article: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/annie-le-autopsy-to-be-released-1.1445629 that reports that there are 70 cameras trained on exits and entrances.
amyb80
09-15-2009, 09:38 PM
I may have missed someone pointing this out already but did anyone notice that someone has recently (TODAY) logged into the Myspace account that the POI shares with his girlfriend?
I wonder if LE can trace where they log in from?
I don't know about tracing the IP or if MySpace would even come off such information if they do log it all (would be some awful huge servers to record everything everyone does while there) but I read a news story that refered to some of the girlfriends posts [story from here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html ] so I would think for that story to say what it does, the profile was public up until very recently (like todays log in).
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 09:38 PM
I can't get to the cctv still-shot with the other person coming out/holding the door on the Hartford Courant website because an ad covers the arrow (problem with my browser) - are there any other links to that photo? I wonder if that was released to the HC by accident or if it was slipped to them -- I haven't seen that image anywhere else.
Beyond Belief
09-15-2009, 09:40 PM
So who is this guy? Do we have any facts about him? do we have a hometown for him?
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:41 PM
does he have a facebook? I am not a member, don't know how to do facebook....
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 09:42 PM
Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:19 p.m.
Police call late-night press conference (http://www.websleuths.com/crosscampus/2009/09/15/police-call-late-night-press-conference/)
BY THE YALE DAILY NEWS (http://www.websleuths.com/staff/the-yale-dailynews/)
The New Haven Police Department has announced a press conference tonight at 9:45 p.m. The e-mail announcing the conference, sent by City Hall spokeswoman Jessica Mayorga, was sent just before 9 p.m. Full text of the release below:
For Immediate Release
September 15, 2009
(NEW HAVEN)-- New Haven Police will hold a news conference at 9:45 p.m. today at 1 Union Avenue (3rd Floor) to announce developments in the homicide investigation of Annie Le. No additional information will be disseminated before the news conference.
###
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:43 PM
will it be on FOX? HLN? CNN?
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Here is the Yale Daily News Twitter feed in case no live links come up:
http://twitter.com/yaledailynews
cleo612
09-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Links not working, Suzi.
Beyond Belief
09-15-2009, 09:46 PM
they haven't interrupted Hannity on fox. maybe at 10
daisy7
09-15-2009, 09:47 PM
I'm WAY behind on this thread. Can someone give me a quick update about what's happened today?
TIA! :blowkiss:
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:47 PM
nothing on so far.........switching channels and surfing.........
Noway
09-15-2009, 09:50 PM
If he was under surveillance, as I'd read, how did LE lose him? :rolleyes:
ETA: Have not followed this case closely but have read articles that seem to contradict each other and am not sure if he was really under surveillance.
eyes4crime
09-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:19 p.m.
Police call late-night press conference (http://www.websleuths.com/crosscampus/2009/09/15/police-call-late-night-press-conference/)
BY THE YALE DAILY NEWS (http://www.websleuths.com/staff/the-yale-dailynews/)
The New Haven Police Department has announced a press conference tonight at 9:45 p.m. The e-mail announcing the conference, sent by City Hall spokeswoman Jessica Mayorga, was sent just before 9 p.m. Full text of the release below:
For Immediate Release
September 15, 2009
(NEW HAVEN)-- New Haven Police will hold a news conference at 9:45 p.m. today at 1 Union Avenue (3rd Floor) to announce developments in the homicide investigation of Annie Le. No additional information will be disseminated before the news conference.
###
Let's hope everything we have heard this day is a rumor - and LE have made an arrest.
jamiect
09-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Links not working, Suzi.
Try this
http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus/2009/09/15/police-call-late-night-press-conference/
KivaSupporter
09-15-2009, 09:51 PM
I'm WAY behind on this thread. Can someone give me a quick update about what's happened today?
TIA! :blowkiss:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html
Labrat
09-15-2009, 09:52 PM
Shoot, I can't find it now! Spent the last 20 minutes searching for it! I distinctly remember the ratio being 70:5? It was a link posted last night?
Anyways, the best I could do right now is this article: http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/annie-le-autopsy-to-be-released-1.1445629 that reports that there are 70 cameras trained on exits and entrances.
None of the reporting on the cameras has been very clear- it's bounced around quite a bit- inside and outside, no- only outside, 75 on that building,no- 75 covering the whole campus. I remember the 70:5 ratio also, but can it be trusted?
debirlfan
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
I may have missed someone pointing this out already but did anyone notice that someone has recently (TODAY) logged into the Myspace account that the POI shares with his girlfriend?
I wonder if LE can trace where they log in from?
We're assuming she did it - could have been a friend or family member with her password - or possibly LE?
Amity
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Was the girl holding the door open for Annie, the girlfriend or family member???
I don't know but it looks more like a coffee cup slightly tilted to the side than a glove.....at least to me. :)
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k137/Lady_Amity/42a05b33.jpg?t=1253065953
babycat
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
I'm WAY behind on this thread. Can someone give me a quick update about what's happened today?
TIA! :blowkiss:
No cause of death was released today, and this article originally posted by the wonderful esqgerl should catch you up to what we all just learned
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/15/2009-09-15_cops_set_to_reveal_yale_student_annie_le_cause_ of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html#ixzz0RDuVLn TY
also there should be a press conference shortly
hope that helps:)
lilacwine
09-15-2009, 09:53 PM
My Boston station just said there would be "shocking connection" between the POI and Annie at 11:00.
cleo612
09-15-2009, 09:55 PM
Anderson Cooper will be covering the latest information in a few minutes. (He starts his program in 5 minutes.)
KivaSupporter
09-15-2009, 09:56 PM
My Boston station just said there would be "shocking connection" between the POI and Annie at 11:00.
Is that a local station?
Beyond Belief
09-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Greta on fox at 10 might be the best bet. NG is just a rerun from earlier.
missyjane77
09-15-2009, 09:57 PM
I just want to throw my 2 cents in about university laboratories since I work in one at a large university. Our animal technicians and our lab staff do, in fact, work closely together. We have to schedule transports with them. If there are any problems with our animals, the techs are the ones we go to. Also, lab notes are left in the lab, but you don't need a PhD to decipher them. I work on one project, but I know exactly what's going on in the other projects in the lab. We have separate projects, but we still work as a team. The support staff and the research staff aren't as segregated as one may think. I just don't want people to think all labs are like what Labrat has described. No offense....
passionflower
09-15-2009, 09:58 PM
Our forencis astrologers need an exact birthdate for Annie..........a couple have been stated and may change the charts. Please tell them if you know.
panthera
09-15-2009, 09:59 PM
Anderson Cooper will be covering the latest information in a few minutes. (He starts his program in 5 minutes.)
I'm waiting for AC too. LK isn't going to interrupt his show now when "live news" is on in just a couple of minutes. MOO
panthera
09-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Greta on fox at 10 might be the best bet. NG is just a rerun from earlier.
I haven't watched Greta for weeks. Has she been covering Annie's murder?
AC is on now and he's saying any minute expecting "breaking news" from LE.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Greta reporting it NOW
KivaSupporter
09-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Breaking news - Greta
Beyond Belief
09-15-2009, 10:00 PM
Go to Fox cable
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:01 PM
Greta waiting for press conference and talking about an arrest???
cleo612
09-15-2009, 10:01 PM
Anderson Cooper says that we are awaiting the live press conference--he will bring it to us live.
Momtofour
09-15-2009, 10:01 PM
Fox News - Greta is live and will carry the press conference
lilacwine
09-15-2009, 10:01 PM
The Boston station is local... just a promo teaser...
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
I am keeping an eye on the WTNH website - there's a red banner saying new developments
Shutterfly
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Okay, I've got to back up all the way to the beginning. I can't stand it anymore. This banana is me FOR SURE.... :Banane10:
Can someone plese explain something to me? I'm aware that sometimes I'm a complete BONEHEAD but this time I just don't think it's me. There are seventy camera's on the exterior of this building. Annie was clearly seen going into the building. Well, if they didn't see Annie leaving the building, how was she supposed to have gotten out of the building to "run away," a rip in the fabric of time, one of those portholes from a video game where you go in one and come out in a different part of the game, an underground mine shaft?!?!?!?!
None, and I do mean NONE of what they're doing up there makes any sense at all. That's why we're all baffled. It can't be US, not collectively, you know? A lot of the people here are a h3ll of a lot smarter than I am and STILL can't make logical sense of any of this.
I just explained what we 'think' we know (the *<ahem>* facts) to someone who just saw it on CNN for the first time. When I got to the part about the camera's, not finding Annie, and reopening the building with a body in the wall, he looked at me like I was stupid, laughed, and says to me "you're *****ting me, right?" Tell it to someone you know who doesn't know anything about this case. I've tried it twice. They think you're making it up!
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
News crew at his home for days also
Noway
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Is there a link to the press conference? It's either over or on right now ...
Never mind, I see Anderson 360 and Greta ...
JulieR
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Can someone please post the highlights of the press conference, I can't get to the TV right now.........thanks.
Labrat
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
I just want to throw my 2 cents in about university laboratories since I work in one at a large university. Our animal technicians and our lab staff do, in fact, work closely together. We have to schedule transports with them. If there are any problems with our animals, the techs are the ones we go to. Also, lab notes are left in the lab, but you don't need a PhD to decipher them. I work on one project, but I know exactly what's going on in the other projects in the lab. We have separate projects, but we still work as a team. The support staff and the research staff aren't as segregated as one may think. I just don't want people to think all labs are like what Labrat has described. No offense....
No problem at all! It's good to know what possibilities exist. Are the animal techs you mention your animal techs or husbandry techs? Of course all the people in your lab are familiar with each others projects, but are husbandry techs familiar with them also?
I'm thinking I was not clear with what I was trying to say- Husbandry and vet techs work inside the animal facility- they are not going into the research labs getting to know what people are doing, they are too busy with their work, at least in my experience. Transports and problems with the animals are part of their work. When I said it was separate, what I meant is that the animal tech taking care of my mouse room is not going to be coming into my lab and watch me do experiments and take a look at my research notes.
I was responding to all the "in the lab" comments thrown around by the press as though everyone is in one big room together.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 10:03 PM
None of the reporting on the cameras has been very clear- it's bounced around quite a bit- inside and outside, no- only outside, 75 on that building,no- 75 covering the whole campus. I remember the 70:5 ratio also, but can it be trusted?
Probably not! In going back to find the source, I read thru many articles and the reporting was kind of loose. Many times it was "in the area". That's why that ratio stuck in my mind, I think, but then why would you want to give that kind of specific info out to the public?
I'm glad you remembered that number! I'm not going bonkers!
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Sorry guys, I got an important phone call.
cleo612
09-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Press conference has not started yet.
KivaSupporter
09-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Is there a link to the press conference? It's either over or on right now ...
It did not start yet.
panthera
09-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Is there a link to the press conference? It's either over or on right now ...
It hasn't started yet.
STEADFAST
09-15-2009, 10:06 PM
I can tell you what I would have done. I would have gotten one of the large draped caging supply racks, put the body in it, zipped up the drape, rolled it into the other room, positioned the rack between the access panel and the door to block the view of anyone peeking into the room, and that would be that. If it were a mouse room, I would reposition a few mouse racks for additional cover.
Anyone who saw me in the hall would think I was taking supplies to a room. Researchers coming in generally go straight to their mouse rooms, and animal techs should be inside rooms working at that time. It's not like people congregate in the hall chatting.
You scare me, Inspector Labrat.
But I get your point: It would be possible to move her at the time of the murder without people seeing.
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:07 PM
still waiting on presser for those that have no TV
Greta talking about ACORN to Carl Rove
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Ugh, what a time not to have my cable hooked up...
Still no new news on the YDN and WTNH websites
Amity
09-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Watching Anderson Cooper:
Prez Jimmy Carter: Racism linked to animosity against Obama.
I'm also sorta flipping between all the news channels.
Nothing yet.
Emily Booth
09-15-2009, 10:10 PM
You scare me, Inspector Labrat.
But I get your point: It would be possible to move her at the time of the murder without people seeing.
You must be an Aquarian or a Scorpio, Labrat! LOL
cleo612
09-15-2009, 10:10 PM
They just showed microphones, etc. set up for press conference on Greta.
Beyond Belief
09-15-2009, 10:12 PM
when greta first came on she was talking to reporter new haven, he had asked someone (LE) if this conference was called to announce there was a killer on the loose. Answer was "we wouldn't call you out here for something like that)"
I expect to hear he's in custody. at least if its him, i hope so.
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Live feed at Cnn.com is "Global perspective" :(
Talking about Marley and me......
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 10:16 PM
New Haven police scheduled a press conference to give an update in the investigation into the death of a Yale University graduate student.
The conference was scheduled to begin at 9:45 p.m. Monday, but had yet to begin at 10 p.m.
Sources have identified the person of interest in the killing of a Yale Graduate Student as Yale lab tech Raymond Clark.
More at link...but no live link:
http://www.wfsb.com/news/20929480/detail.html
sunsetbeach
09-15-2009, 10:17 PM
The whole thing is confusing because the apt. mgr. said no one had seen him since Thursday then it shifts back and forth naming "Tuesdays" ~ well, there was last Tuesday 9/8 when Annie was killed, and today is Tuesday ~ so I'm :confused: too!!
I found this:
Suspect, his two relatives and fiance stay home from work
Today, September 15, 2009, 4 hours ago | Victor Zapana Paul Needham
A suspect in the murder of Annie Le MED '13 did not show up for work today and neither did his sister, brother-in-law or fiancé, all of whom work for Yale. A medical campus employee who is privy to developments in the investigation said in an interview that the four all stayed home today. The suspect, who works in Yale's Animal Resources Center, could not be seen at his Middletown apartment this afternoon.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus.rss
passionflower
09-15-2009, 10:17 PM
still waiting.......Greta talking about Playground Fight? and Honduris
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 10:18 PM
Fox news has link to live feed at top of webpage
Labrat
09-15-2009, 10:19 PM
You must be an Aquarian or a Scorpio, Labrat! LOL
I am a Scorpio. Now I'm scared.
Skigirl
09-15-2009, 10:19 PM
everyone is milling about -- people closest to fox mic are yammering about electronic equipment
I'm watching my lady Nancy Grace. BREAKING NEWS: Autopsy is being held.
Oh, Nancy.
Noway
09-15-2009, 10:20 PM
Anderson Cooper says when presser starts, he'll bring it to us. So I'm staying there.
Damozel
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
does he have a facebook? I am not a member, don't know how to do facebook....
I've looked up the name with a filter for Yale/New Haven and nothing. Not surprisingly, there are a lot of people with the same name. The woman reported as his girlfriend has a more unique last name but nada as well.
Amity
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Maybe these stations will have live feed before Anderson C or Greta gets to it.
http://www.wfsb.com/index.html
http://www.wtnh.com/subindex/news/new_haven_cty
SuziQ
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Fox news has link to live feed at top of webpage
Thank you!
daisy7
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Fox news has link to live feed at top of webpage
Thanks, Skigirl!!
http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=1
cook78
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Nancy grace is from earlier taping. Won't have live presser info on it.
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