Autopsy

[Lainey4757]

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=434241&GT1=28102

[oceanblueeyes]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=186394

Autopsy shocker: Michael Jackson was healthy

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Michael Jackson's arms were covered with punctures, his face and neck were scarred and he had tattooed eyebrows and lips, but he wasn't the sickly skeleton of a man portrayed by tabloids, according to his autopsy report obtained by The Associated Press.

In fact, the Los Angeles County coroner's report shows Jackson was a fairly healthy 50-year-old before he died of an overdose.

His 136 pounds were in the acceptable range for a 5-foot-9 man. His heart was strong with no sign of plaque buildup. And his kidneys and most other major organs were normal.

[capps]

Wow...I'm surprised this thread hasn't received many posts. I thought it was a very interesting read,and that there would be tons of posts.Seems kind of sad really ....

[SuziQ]

Jackson Autopsy -- Singer Was a Healthy Mess (http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/michael-jackson-autopsy-death-propofol/)

Posted Oct 1st 2009 12:55PM by TMZ Staff (http://www.tmz.com/bloggers/tmz-staff/)


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/page/2/#ixzz0SkQVUtpG (http://www.tmz.com/page/2/#ixzz0SkQVUtpG)

[SuziQ]

MJ Band Leader -- Autopsy Vindicates Jackson (http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/mj-band-leader-autopsy-vindicates-jackson/)

Posted Oct 1st 2009 12:50PM by TMZ Staff (http://www.tmz.com/bloggers/tmz-staff/)


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/page/2/#ixzz0SkQcgxon (http://www.tmz.com/page/2/#ixzz0SkQcgxon)

[Shlock Homes]

On a physiological level, he might have appeared healthy, but biochemically, things could be different. For example, if he lost weight too rapidly, even though his internal organs might look relatively healthy, as a living person, he could have suffered extreme fatigue. His inability to sleep, would not have shown up in the autopsy.

[feddup]

Wow...I'm surprised this thread hasn't received many posts. I thought it was a very interesting read,and that there would be tons of posts.Seems kind of sad really ....

me, too capps. I thought it dissproved some of the untruths about Michael! Such as he was annorexic, etc. There were so many lies told about him.
I do not think 136# is bad, not for 5'9 that is slender but he definately was eating.
do you? Not anorexic! I hope they get to the bottom of what happened to him for his families sake.

[kbl8201]

me, too capps. I thought it dissproved some of the untruths about Michael! Such as he was annorexic, etc. There were so many lies told about him.
I do not think 136# is bad, not for 5'9 that is slender but he definately was eating.
do you? Not anorexic! I hope they get to the bottom of what happened to him for his families sake.

i got sick of the media frenzy and hence havent been paying much attention.
do they think his doctor was negligant or that he intentionally set forth to kill him?

[oceanblueeyes]

On a physiological level, he might have appeared healthy, but biochemically, things could be different. For example, if he lost weight too rapidly, even though his internal organs might look relatively healthy, as a living person, he could have suffered extreme fatigue. His inability to sleep, would not have shown up in the autopsy.

I never thought MJ was extremely thin and at 136 pounds he was within normal range for a 5'9" male. Dancer usually are very lean.

He had always been very lean so I see no weight loss but weight gain as they said around his trial time that MJ was down to around 112 pounds and I think that was due to stress and worry.

I respectfully disagree. His heart, liver and kidneys were in good shape which is counter opposing to the tabloid reporting that he was doing loads of drugs. If that were true his heart, liver and kidneys would have shown the overindulgence of drugs. It seems Michael was taking no other drugs and the only things found in his system was what Murray has admitted giving him.

I think that MJ suffered from his inability to get much needed sleep.

What a rotten shame that this man lost his life because of a reckless and totally negligent man that dared call himself a doctor.

What a travesty.

imo

[oceanblueeyes]

me, too capps. I thought it disproved some of the untruths about Michael! Such as he was anorexic, etc. There were so many lies told about him.
I do not think 136# is bad, not for 5'9 that is slender but he definitely was eating.
do you? Not anorexic! I hope they get to the bottom of what happened to him for his families sake.

So many lies but I don't think that should be shocking. The tabloids have made billions for decades lying about MJ.

Where is all the damage if he were a hard core addict? The overindulgence of drugs shows up in the liver and kidneys the most. Yet his kidneys and liver were healthy and his heart strong.

Where is the trash they put out saying he was emaciated and skeletonized when actually MJ was not even underweight?

Of course he had needle punctures. Murray alone had injected him for 6 weeks before he killed him. That would be 42 injection sights in 6 weeks time.

Where are the other drugs in his system? None found except what Murray said he gave him.

How his family has held this all in I am amazed since they have had the autopsy report for quite awhile now.

imo

[Mygirlsadie]

I read it earlier but didn't have time to comment. None of this is really news to me since everything in the report is basically what we already knew. Obviously he had lips, eyes, eyebrows tattooed on. He wore a wig or whatever kind of hair piece he wore so I figured he was balding or that something was going on under there. He was also a 50 year old man so a little arthritis here and there.. hmm yeah nothing un-usual at all to me about his autopsy. Whats un-usual is the way this man was treated in life. So d*mn sad... :( He was diff. then all of us yes but his whole life was like no others.

[oceanblueeyes]

I read it earlier but didn't have time to comment. None of this is really news to me since everything in the report is basically what we already knew. Obviously he had lips, eyes, eyebrows tattooed on. He wore a wig or whatever kind of hair piece he wore so I figured he was balding or that something was going on under there. He was also a 50 year old man so a little arthritis here and there.. hmm yeah nothing un-usual at all to me about his autopsy. Whats un-usual is the way this man was treated in life. So d*mn sad... :( He was diff. then all of us yes but his whole life was like no others.

I am not really sure he was balding. I think a lot of it had to do when he was burned during the Pepsi commercial and hair wouldn't grow in certain places. The spot in the front that was tattooed dark may have been one of those places where the hair did not grow back.

I always felt the tabloids just put out the worst junk imaginable to sell their rag mags. Too many people that had been around MJ for months when he started his rehearsals said he was not doing drugs but eating healthy. Imo, he had been detoxing his body for quite awhile.

Michael had a major problem which he had had for years and suffered from insomnia and with his hectic schedule before he died he needed sleep more than ever.

That is all Michael wanted.........just get some sleep. Imo, he trusted Murray to take care of him and to administer and monitor him correctly.

imo

[Mygirlsadie]

Yeah you are right. The ''balding'' was probably caused from the burns. None of his brothers look like they are balding neither does Joseph so I don't see why MJ would of been. Unless it was stress related because that can cause hair loss. The tabloids chewed him up and spit him out for years. And sooo many people believed the rag mags. MJ tried and tried to set the record straight but nobody believed him. So sad.



I am not really sure he was balding. I think a lot of it had to do when he was burned during the Pepsi commercial and hair wouldn't grow in certain places. The spot in the front that was tattooed dark may have been one of those places where the hair did not grow back.

I always felt the tabloids just put out the worst junk imaginable to sell their rag mags. Too many people that had been around MJ for months when he started his rehearsals said he was not doing drugs but eating healthy. Imo, he had been detoxing his body for quite awhile.

Michael had a major problem which he had had for years and suffered from insomnia and with his hectic schedule before he died he needed sleep more than ever.

That is all Michael wanted.........just get some sleep. Imo, he trusted Murray to take care of him and to administer and monitor him correctly.

imo

[Trailerparkgirl]

whenever friends of mine start discussing MJ and everything that we know via the autopsy....i always say 'remember he was almost 51' so for a 51 yr old guy, he was in good shape. from what i saw in the movie...and of course, jmo, we tend to forget that because someone is a celebrity they are 'abnormal' or in better health than the rest of us, kind of invincible....and they're not
so maybe he was balding, a lot of men his age lose hair, so what
a bit of arthritis...no biggie
no plaque build-up, that is awesome because a lot of men even younger than him cannot say they have no plaque build up

the chronic inflammation in his lungs? hmm....i dont know about that, is that asthma?

anyway, what im saying is that he was normal...and probably in better shape than a lot of men his age--i consider him a professional dancer, and if i were a professional dancer i'd be skinny too :) lol lol

[zadari]

i think MJ shouldve sought in hospital treatment for his sleeping problem .. most dr's wont treat people in home .. none that i know of anyway that right there raised my eyebrow

[passionflower]

This makes the doctor look really bad now!

[shana]

i think MJ shouldve sought in hospital treatment for his sleeping problem .. most dr's wont treat people in home .. none that i know of anyway that right there raised my eyebrow

One of the many things I said on our freeway ride back from seeing This Is It! was how a Sleep Clinic could have helped MJ...

He never likely entertained the notion, even if introduced to him at any time over the past decades...and certainly not in the Spring of this year when he was preparing for O2 (crunch time). Instead, he went for a quick fix which had worked before...but he picked the wrong doctor to supervise its administration.

(Not saying propofol is even a fix...the very fact that it does not enable REM sleep is a killer.)

MJ was on a mission to get this project done perfectly (his way, no blame) and unfortunately NO ONE was close enough to him (for whatever reasons) to vett this loser of a "doctor".

The day this "doctor" is charged will be a Hallelujah kinda day for me! Small compensation, but I'll take it...and hoping that the case will save others in similarly potentially deadly situations.

~jmo~

[Trailerparkgirl]

i'd like to know why it's taking so long to arrest dr murray
the autopsy shows mj died from the propofol, and it was administered by dr murray

[shana]

i'd like to know why it's taking so long to arrest dr murray
the autopsy shows mj died from the propofol, and it was administered by dr murray

My guess is that LE is conducting a most thorough investigation so that the charges will stick once laid. It took what, a year or more, before charges were brought in the Anna Nicole case.

I am so with you in sentiment...way too long already to suit me. :-)

[sometimer]

If the autopsy has been released why is there no copy of it anywhere? We have only seen reports of a few things that were supposedly in it. I am still not convinced we have very much of the real picture yet.
I think this investigation will take a very long time. They want to get as many charges as they can before they proceed.
I was very frustrated at first, but all I can think of now is, there is nothing anybody can do that can bring Michael back. Nothing! I want to see someone have to pay for what they have done, but it still can't undo it.

[shana]

If the autopsy has been released why is there no copy of it anywhere? We have only seen reports of a few things that were supposedly in it. I am still not convinced we have very much of the real picture yet.
I think this investigation will take a very long time. They want to get as many charges as they can before they proceed.
I was very frustrated at first, but all I can think of now is, there is nothing anybody can do that can bring Michael back. Nothing! I want to see someone have to pay for what they have done, but it still can't undo it.

The full autopsy report remains confidential to this date.

This article (http://www.coastreporter.net/article/GB/20091001/CP05/310019899/-1/SECHELT/michael-jacksons-autopsy-report-shows-he-was-a-fairly-healthy-50&template=cpart) (among others) describes the key points from the report which were released.

ITA about wanting to see the person responsible having to pay, and to be stopped from having the 'permission' to do such a thing ever again!

<-- practicing patience :-)

RIP MJ

[JBean]

Released today

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson1.html

FEBRUARY 8--As prosecutors today announced manslaughter charges against Michael Jackson's former doctor, the Los Angeles medical examiner simultaneously released its final report on the singer's June 2009 death. The 51-page coroner's report, key excerpts of which you'll find below, concluded that the powerful anesthetic propofol caused the 50-year-old Jackson's demise.


The "immediate cause" of Jackson's death was listed by the medical examiner as "Acute propofol intoxication." (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson18.html)

[Amity]

*heavy sigh*
In the link provided in above post by JBean:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...1jackson1.html (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...1jackson1.html)

Noted on Page 2:
The Paramedics found MJ 'Asystolic'.
When MJ arrived at the hospital he was 'Asystolic'.

The paramedics continued to provide life-saving treatment throughout the ride in the ambulance, Under Dr. M's orders.
No telling how long Michael Jackson had actually been dead. *big heavier sigh*


Asystole / AsystolicFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In medicine, asystole (colloquially known as flatline) is a state of no cardiac electrical activity, hence no contractions of the myocardium and no cardiac output or blood flow. Asystole is one of the conditions required for a medical practitioner to certify death.

MORE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asystole

[BOZGAL]

I found some interesting points in the Autopsy Report.

1) Vitiligo (I always believed Michael when he said he suffered from this)
2) The drugs in his system (what the defendant said he administered)
3) The absence of any other drugs in his system
4) The absence of any signs of long term drug abuse (most significantly the
liver which always tells what is going on)
5) The presence of Propofol in other areas besides his bloodstream
6) Defendant's statement that he was called to the home by Michael complaining of dehydration and insomnia.


Although full of information these points really stood out to me. It is quite apparent Michael was pumped full of Propofol and I do not believe the defendant on when and how much he administered. Michael most assuredly went into cardiac arrest after the last dose of Propofol. Versed is a powerful drug used before Anesthesia and used for some procedures that do not require Anesthesia. But when used as a pre-op medication it is not combined with other drugs, nor given in multiple doses. It is quite disturbing to me one with medical training would administer such a deadly combination of drugs. Much less in a non-hospital setting. No Anesthesiologist would even contemplate such a deadly cocktail much less administer it. Also very disturbing defendant chose to treat insomnia with these drugs. Not medical protocol in the least. And no proof of any treatment for dehydration either. And not to forget he was already deceased when the EMT'S arrived.

JMO

[shana]

I found some interesting points in the Autopsy Report.JMO

Welcome, BOZGAL! ITA with all the points you raised. It is helpful to those of us who are not medical professionals to understand fully the Autopsy Report, etc, and so your input is most valuable along with posts from your colleagues on these threads.

[oceanblueeyes]

i'd like to know why it's taking so long to arrest dr murray
the autopsy shows mj died from the propofol, and it was administered by dr murray

I actually think it was excellent strategy on the part of the DA.

If the arrest had been made quickly then all of the investigation would have to follow after then. I believe Murray will want a speedy trial and the DA knew this.

So by doing the extensive investigation before the arrest it means they have their ducks in a row and are ready to go to trial if Murray opts for a speedy trial.

imo