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Tricia
11-10-2009, 03:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheewawa007
But why would the other children be in danger? Wouldn't all kids in the entire neighborhood be in danger? Why target just her home? Surely the killer would be smart enough to avoid her house for fear of being caught. Just makes no sense at all to me. Put an unmarked police car with a detective there - someone unknown as a law enforcement officer. It just doesn't add up to me.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lipin One; Maybe someone has said this before, since I'm running a little slow to catch up today. But, one purpose of the police guarding the house could be to keep onlookers and media out of the property. We know how relentless can they be.

Again, IMO.

My Friends,

Look, you are adults and I can't tell you what to do off the forum but I hope no one is doing anything that might be dangerous for them or considered to be trespassing.

Please be careful and respectful. Whatever you do you choose to do on your own .

This case is breaking my heart. I can't remember who posted it but I will agree with them, I pray this case does not go cold.

I wish there was more news. Maybe soon. Let's hope so.

stumpedpa
11-10-2009, 03:40 PM
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=69151

The bookbag and lunchbox according to AMW.

http://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/213/Bookbag_CTE.jpg http://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/213/Lunchbox_CTE.jpg


Lunch box possibly Bento, but those seem to be plastic and for some reason, I thought this was "soft" ...

Thanks....my bad.....I couldn't go and look "working" please disreguard my "wrongness"

The one above is what AMW had. Not the picture posted on thread 16 by me..... attributed to chili fries }:>)

:>)

P.S. thread closed maybe my mistaken post will be lost in cyber space.....will go back and edit so ppl know it's not right.
can't edit anyway thread closed....:(

mommya
11-10-2009, 03:40 PM
FWIW - I like the skull and bones motif. No biggie for me. My son has tons of the stuff and so do my nieces.

It's not like the skulls are drinkin beer or smokin or being violent or anything.

We all have a skull - and bones. I think it's OK.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 03:58 PM
No worries Tricia - I am always careful & would never trespass or be disrespectful... thank you for your concern though - I'm feeling the love....

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 04:04 PM
....testing one, two..... testing one, two, three...anybody here?

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 04:06 PM
Hey Cheeeeeeewaaaawaaaaa! I am here... off and on... there are two other children missing right now... a little two week old and a five year old... plus a woman in her fifties that is from a town a little ways up the pike from me...

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:07 PM
Does anyone know the status of WLK's court appearance today?

Noway
11-10-2009, 04:08 PM
LOL ... I sat there trying to edit my post to add this link ... then finally bought a clue and thought we might have a new thread.

Do we "know" the lunchbox is soft? Why do I think that? (Feel free to say 'because you don't have a clue'!)

Bento pig items (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=bento+pig)

Close shot of possible (http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-Bento-2-tier-Lunch-Box-Chopsticks-Pig_W0QQitemZ200399821509QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item2ea8c29ac5)

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 04:09 PM
Hey Cheeeeeeewaaaawaaaaa! I am here... off and on... there are two other children missing right now... a little two week old and a five year old... plus a woman in her fifties that is from a town a little ways up the pike from me...

Oh no nursebee, say it ain't so! That's terrible - did they all disappear at the same time, or different incidents?

QueenD
11-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Does anyone know the status of WLK's court appearance today?

Jail still has him as an inmate?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:15 PM
Tricia,
It has been brought to my attention that I need to inform you that I am a family member of the Thompson family. Technically this is not true. I am not blood related although I consider ST and his family my family. Technically they are family through my stepfather who is deceased.
You can make your own decision whether that qualifies me as family or not. However, that said, I am also local. I have been a business owner in Jacksonville and I have a place of residence off of exit 3 on 295. I have grandchildren that reside there and am concerned for their well being and have found a kinship with the people on this forum. Please dont boot me.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:16 PM
Hey Cheeeeeeewaaaawaaaaa! I am here... off and on... there are two other children missing right now... a little two week old and a five year old... plus a woman in her fifties that is from a town a little ways up the pike from me...

Where?

Tricia
11-10-2009, 04:18 PM
No worries Tricia - I am always careful & would never trespass or be disrespectful... thank you for your concern though - I'm feeling the love....


Aww thanks my dear. The love is coming atcha!! :hug:

I am watching this thread and praying we get a break. Thank you all for keeping us updated on this tragedy.

Tricia

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Jail still has him as an inmate?

I just pray it stays that way. Does anyone think they are waiting for dna results to charge him? any IMO's from any of you on this? noway?

Tricia
11-10-2009, 04:20 PM
Tricia,
It has been brought to my attention that I need to inform you that I am a family member of the Thompson family. Technically this is not true. I am not blood related although I consider ST and his family my family. Technically they are family through my stepfather who is deceased.
You can make your own decision whether that qualifies me as family or not. However, that said, I am also local. I have been a business owner in Jacksonville and I have a place of residence off of exit 3 on 295. I have grandchildren that reside there and am concerned for their well being and have found a kinship with the people on this forum. Please dont boot me.

OH NO NO. You are not in trouble. I promise. You are fine. I'll email you later tonight because I have to leave now but absolutely no worries OK? Keep on posting :)

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 04:20 PM
Where?
the baby was just found alive thank GOD (in SC)

The five year old girl is from NC and sadly still missing under very suspicious circumstances... her thread is in the main missing lobby.. here is a bit about her (sorry OT)

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6387156/

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 04:24 PM
I just pray it stays that way. Does anyone think they are waiting for dna results to charge him? any IMO's from any of you on this? noway?

That's what I'm thinking sadnpod...they're waiting for the results & probably feel he's a flight risk if he were released. Hopefully that's what is holding up the lack of info - maybe because they feel they've already got their man.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 04:25 PM
I just pray it stays that way. Does anyone think they are waiting for dna results to charge him? any IMO's from any of you on this? noway? I am not sure... personally, he is way hinky to me. If he DID do it... well, he is in the best place right now in terms of community safety.

Am I 100%? No... and that is because we have heard so little from LE that it is hard to take anything but a stab at it... but for stabbing purposes he sure suites... (imo)

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Over and over and over.....so gutwrenching and heartbreaking. I pray they find her safe and fast.

Noway
11-10-2009, 04:31 PM
11/2/2009
PUBLIC INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENT
For Immediate Release

The latest total regarding tips/leads to our agency on the Somer Thompson case is 2,600. Teams of detectives from multiple agencies continue to work on the Somer Thompson case today and are following up on many of these leads. This still includes agents from the FBI, FDLE and from the U.S. Marshals, who have committed to remaining part of our team until Somer's killer is caught.

Today, Sheriff Beseler met at length with a crew from America's Most Wanted and they are developing a presentation regarding Somer's case that will air nationally on Saturday night. Our hope is that additional leads will be called into our agency as a result. Meanwhile, please continue to ask your viewers/readers/listeners to call or email our agency with any helpful information they may have. The tips line remains open and manned 24/7.

I would like to emphasize, for sake of rumor control, that no arrest has been made yet in this case. We do not have anyone in custody and have not named any persons of interest. Reports to the contrary are inaccurate.

You'll be notified if any important progress is made in this case. Until a major development occurs, please anticipate receiving one email briefing from me each day.

Thank you,
Mary Justino
CCSO PIO

http://www.claysheriff.com/05_01_00news.asp?newsID=468

Noway
11-10-2009, 04:32 PM
PUBLIC INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENT
November 6, 2009

To date, our agency has fielded 3,000 leads in regards to the Somer Thompson case.

Our detectives will continue their work throughout the weekend and the tips line remains open and active. Due to the planned airing of a Somer Thompson case feature on America's Most Wanted Saturday night, additional manpower has been assigned to the tips line phones. CCSO personnel will be ready to move on any tips regarding specific suspects that come in as a result of the show, along with U.S. Marshals who remain an active part of our team.

If there are any major developments in the case, members of the media will be notified as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Mary Justino
CCSO PIO

http://www.claysheriff.com/05_01_00news.asp?newsID=469

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 04:33 PM
Mary Justino should think about doing one media briefing a day to keep this in the press...... imhoo

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 04:34 PM
Is there a difference between a sexual predator and a sexual offender? if so, what?

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 04:35 PM
11/2/2009
PUBLIC INFORMATION ANNOUNCEMENT
For Immediate Release

The latest total regarding tips/leads to our agency on the Somer Thompson case is 2,600. Teams of detectives from multiple agencies continue to work on the Somer Thompson case today and are following up on many of these leads. This still includes agents from the FBI, FDLE and from the U.S. Marshals, who have committed to remaining part of our team until Somer's killer is caught.

Today, Sheriff Beseler met at length with a crew from America's Most Wanted and they are developing a presentation regarding Somer's case that will air nationally on Saturday night. Our hope is that additional leads will be called into our agency as a result. Meanwhile, please continue to ask your viewers/readers/listeners to call or email our agency with any helpful information they may have. The tips line remains open and manned 24/7.

I would like to emphasize, for sake of rumor control, that no arrest has been made yet in this case. We do not have anyone in custody and have not named any persons of interest. Reports to the contrary are inaccurate.

You'll be notified if any important progress is made in this case. Until a major development occurs, please anticipate receiving one email briefing from me each day.

Thank you,
Mary Justino
CCSO PIO

http://www.claysheriff.com/05_01_00news.asp?newsID=468


What reports is he referring to? I haven't heard of any....besides us here on WS

Noway
11-10-2009, 04:43 PM
A sex offender (also sexual offender, sex abuser, or sexual abuser) is a person who committed a sex crime, although what constitutes a sex crime differs by culture and by legal jurisdiction. In most jurisdictions, offenses include child sexual abuse, downloading child pornography, rape, and statutory rape. In much of the United States, public urination, mooning, streaking, and the failure to prevent one's own teenage children from engaging in otherwise consensual sexual activity also result being designated as a sex offender, requiring registration as such in publicly available, online lists. The term sexual predator is often used to describe severe or repeat sex offenders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender

Noway
11-10-2009, 04:45 PM
What reports is he referring to? I haven't heard of any....besides us here on WS

LOL, on the reports ... IMO, media reads here/other boards and asks Sheriff about the reported rumor of an arrest.

Those reports are false says the Sheriff.

:)

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Sadnpod, I wanted to ask, and I don't know if you know the answer, but do you have any idea why the mother's friend SP was there to watch the children that day and why he was there for lunch? Do you know what type of relationship he has with the mother?

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Here's a link to the detailed info on the difference between a sex offender and sex predator in Florida:

Per Florida Statute 775.21, there are several criteria that must be met in order for an individual to be designated for registration as a sexual predator. These include:
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/FAQ.jsp#Question1

1) A conviction for a qualifying and Capital, Life, or First degree felony sex offense committed on or after 10/1/1993; or
2) A conviction for any felony violation or attempt thereof for a qualifying offense committed after 10/1/1993 in addition to a prior conviction for any felony violation or attempt thereof for a qualifying offense.
and
3) A written court finding designating the individual a sexual predator.

OR

4) Additionally, as of July 1, 2004, regardless of whether an individual meets or does not meet the criteria listed above, anyone civilly committed under the Florida Jimmy Ryce Sexually Violent Predator Act must register as a sexual predator.

There's a lot more info at the link.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 05:12 PM
LOL, on the reports ... IMO, media reads here/other boards and asks Sheriff about the reported rumor of an arrest.

Those reports are false says the Sheriff.

:)

I was wondering if either media or LE read on the boards...

infinity14
11-10-2009, 05:12 PM
I have been holding on to this information since the Amber Alert. I have both called and emailed information to LE but have seen no results, so I am bringing it to you. Since there is no Psychic, Dreams, Impressions thread I hope it is okay to post this here. On Tuesday Oct 20th I got on a Jacksonville news site to see if there was anything new on Haleigh's disappearance. I saw the Amber Alert on Somer which basicly said that she had gone missing at Gano & Debarry while walking home from school.
I began to meditate on her name and asked her where she was. She replied "Briarwood". Then she showed me a light yellow, kind of boxy looking convertible with tan leather seats. My focus went immediately to the trunk and she said "I was in here". I knew that meant she was gone, so I asked her who had done this to her. She showed me a young man coming out a nice house, walking down the driveway and getting into the car. He had short dark hair, a muscular build, an all american clean cut looking kid. I asked "this is who killed you?' and was shown (sorry it gets a little graphic here) him choking her. I again was shown him coming out of the house with a large empty box that he put in the backseat of his car and drove away. My next image was of a lot of green grass & trees, he was over top of her again but this time he was (sorry again) hitting her in the head and face with a hammer. The next flash showed the hammer being thrown up onto a black shingled roof, I heard the hammer sliding and then I could see it resting with the steel end in the gutter and the wood part laying up on the shingles. The final image was of the young man coming out of his house with a skateboard slung over his shoulder(this was long before I found out there was a skateboard park near the burned out house). That is what I saw.
It left me with many questions as you may imagine. First of all I "felt" like she knew him and went with him willingly, maybe coming home late sometimes was due to watching him skateboard?
I also wondered why he would use a hammer on her since he had already choked her, then in one of the first few threads someone mentioned a young man (K) who was still in school but hoped to become LE one day. My (as you say) Hinky Meter went crazy and I started to think that perhaps LE was not as impressed with this young man as he was with himself. What better way to prove how bright you are to a sick young mind than to plan the "perfect crime". Using a hammer would have them looking for a "monster" not the "All American Boy".
This is the info that I received. It is my hope that one of you can help to put these pieces together and bring justice for Somer. Thanks for your time!

pinamia
11-10-2009, 05:15 PM
the baby was just found alive thank GOD (in SC)

The five year old girl is from NC and sadly still missing under very suspicious circumstances... her thread is in the main missing lobby.. here is a bit about her (sorry OT)

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6387156/

My heart is breaking. I hope they find her alive. What a cutie pie!!! Kids are so endangered.

Prayers for little Shaniya Davis.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 05:28 PM
I have been holding on to this information since the Amber Alert. I have both called and emailed information to LE but have seen no results, so I am bringing it to you. Since there is no Psychic, Dreams, Impressions thread I hope it is okay to post this here. On Tuesday Oct 20th I got on a Jacksonville news site to see if there was anything new on Haleigh's disappearance. I saw the Amber Alert on Somer which basicly said that she had gone missing at Gano & Debarry while walking home from school.
I began to meditate on her name and asked her where she was. She replied "Briarwood". Then she showed me a light yellow, kind of boxy looking convertible with tan leather seats. My focus went immediately to the trunk and she said "I was in here". I knew that meant she was gone, so I asked her who had done this to her. She showed me a young man coming out a nice house, walking down the driveway and getting into the car. He had short dark hair, a muscular build, an all american clean cut looking kid. I asked "this is who killed you?' and was shown (sorry it gets a little graphic here) him choking her. I again was shown him coming out of the house with a large empty box that he put in the backseat of his car and drove away. My next image was of a lot of green grass & trees, he was over top of her again but this time he was (sorry again) hitting her in the head and face with a hammer. The next flash showed the hammer being thrown up onto a black shingled roof, I heard the hammer sliding and then I could see it resting with the steel end in the gutter and the wood part laying up on the shingles. The final image was of the young man coming out of his house with a skateboard slung over his shoulder(this was long before I found out there was a skateboard park near the burned out house). That is what I saw.
It left me with many questions as you may imagine. First of all I "felt" like she knew him and went with him willingly, maybe coming home late sometimes was due to watching him skateboard?
I also wondered why he would use a hammer on her since he had already choked her, then in one of the first few threads someone mentioned a young man (K) who was still in school but hoped to become LE one day. My (as you say) Hinky Meter went crazy and I started to think that perhaps LE was not as impressed with this young man as he was with himself. What better way to prove how bright you are to a sick young mind than to plan the "perfect crime". Using a hammer would have them looking for a "monster" not the "All American Boy".
This is the info that I received. It is my hope that one of you can help to put these pieces together and bring justice for Somer. Thanks for your time!


Did he rape her as well? Did she feel pain? Did he have help? Could he have been a friend of SP or PC? I for one think it was more than one person and one of those men is involved. Could this be one of AC's friends? She definitely knew the monster. Definitely. And I agree it's someone young.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 05:33 PM
I did not see him rape her, and if she suffered I believe it was only for a very short time. I don't know who he is a friend of, as he is the only one I ever saw. Most of the images showed him shirtless but one had him wearing a dark green short sleeved shirt that seemed a little "square" for the young man that he was.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 05:35 PM
There is a Briarwood Ct a couple of streets from where she lived. I was wondering if he lived or hung out there?

sorrell skye
11-10-2009, 05:36 PM
IIRC one of the last known locations she was spotted was near Gano Ave. and Grove Park Dr. ( I think it was a little girl who stated this?). When I look at a map, I see that Grove Park Dr. takes you directly to Briarwood Ct. Coincidentally, this route also connects to Horton Dr., providing an alternate route home.

Did she take that route, instead of the Debarry route, which could explain why the crossing guard at Gano and Debarry didn't see her that day?

It's tricky to rely on psychic info, since it is so prone to error, and is the least reliable in terms of investigative tools. But hey - why not? Traditional LE methods don't seem to be getting very far in this case, so why not?

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 05:37 PM
LOL, on the reports ... IMO, media reads here/other boards and asks Sheriff about the reported rumor of an arrest.

Those reports are false says the Sheriff.

:)

Nancy Grace, if you're reading here, puhleeze get the sheriff on your show and ask the difficult questions as to how he can ask for the public's help when the public knows nothing about the case... was she sexually assaulted? What dumpster do they think she was placed in? Who was the last person known to have seen her and where did he/she see her? Come on Miss Nancy - what do ya say??

infinity14
11-10-2009, 05:45 PM
IIRC one of the last known locations she was spotted was near Gano Ave. and Grove Park Dr. ( I think it was a little girl who stated this?). When I look at a map, I see that Grove Park Dr. takes you directly to Briarwood Ct. Coincidentally, this route also connects to Horton Dr., providing an alternate route home.

Did she take that route, instead of the Debarry route, which could explain why the crossing guard at Gano and Debarry didn't see her that day?

It's tricky to rely on psychic info, since it is so prone to error, and is the least reliable in terms of investigative tools. But hey - why not? Traditional LE methods don't seem to be getting very far in this case, so why not?

I agree it's certainly not as good as science, but it's something that I've been working on, getting pretty good at and as you say "why not?" I believe someone in that neighborhood knows this young man via his car or his skateboard.

WillenFan21
11-10-2009, 05:49 PM
infinity14

If what you are saying is true then omg that post just freaked me out. I don't mean in it in disrespectful way but just chilling.

Do you guys think it would be a good idea for infinity14 to maybe try and contact Diena? It's just a thought b.c something might click with Diena if she tells her that info.

MommaD
11-10-2009, 05:55 PM
calm down now please.. lets think about this now please.. breathe people breathe

MommaD
11-10-2009, 05:56 PM
I agree it's certainly not as good as science, but it's something that I've been working on, getting pretty good at and as you say "why not?" I believe someone in that neighborhood knows this young man via his car or his skateboard.


is there any more you can remember??? name ??? places??? smells??

infinity14
11-10-2009, 05:56 PM
infinity14

If what you are saying is true then omg that post just freaked me out. I don't mean in it in disrespectful way but just chilling. Maybe you could contact Somer's mom and tell her about it. Maybe she would know the skateboard boy or whatever you are refering to and something might click with her.

WillenFan, I believe it to be true. Since I called LE I have been waiting every day to hear of an arrest and it just breaks my heart that there hasn't been one yet. I have no idea of how to contact Somer's mom. I was hoping some of the locals could talk to the kids in that area (without someone trying to report an alleged abduction), kids usually know more about who's who in the neighborhood.

Noway
11-10-2009, 06:00 PM
I think this belongs on the Forensic Astrology thread? Is that psychic stuff too? I don't understand it, but so many people ask for the link to that, I included it in my siggy.

WillenFan21
11-10-2009, 06:00 PM
WillenFan, I believe it to be true. Since I called LE I have been waiting every day to hear of an arrest and it just breaks my heart that there hasn't been one yet. I have no idea of how to contact Somer's mom. I was hoping some of the locals could talk to the kids in that area (without someone trying to report an alleged abduction), kids usually know more about who's who in the neighborhood.

I would not talk to any kids about that. They are freaked out enough as it is. If people on here think it would be a good idea to get in touch with Somer's mom they might be able to help you find out the information.

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 06:01 PM
Briarwood. 3rd street I've Googled in this case that I've seen a police cruiser in a driveway. They're everywhere.

I agree. This belongs in the Astro thread.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:05 PM
is there any more you can remember??? name ??? places??? smells??

She never said his name and I never thought to ask. I was so caught up into just watching. I know she said "Briarwood", it was very warm and sunny and the top was down on his car. That's how I knew she went with him willingly. The last time I tried to speak with her she actually became bored with me and ran off to play. She's crossed over now and not really concerned with her death anymore. I will try to speak with her in the morning, that's when my energy is strongest. I will let you know if I get more.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 06:06 PM
I think this belongs on the Forensic Astrology thread? Is that psychic stuff too? I don't understand it, but so many people ask for the link to that, I included it in my siggy. forensic astrology is not psychic visions

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Infinity, before you leave us, can I ask you a question? How old did the guy look to you? Like 13-14 year old, or more like an 18
year old or older?

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:08 PM
I think this belongs on the Forensic Astrology thread? Is that psychic stuff too? I don't understand it, but so many people ask for the link to that, I included it in my siggy.

Noway, I'm pretty new at posting, do you know how I can move it there?

sorrell skye
11-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Briarwood. 3rd street I've Googled in this case that I've seen a police cruiser in a driveway. They're everywhere.

I agree. This belongs in the Astro thread.

In street view, I saw a patrol car in one of the driveways, as well. Who knows how long ago the pic was taken.

I don't think it's a good idea to contact any of the family members, unless you know them personally. I also think it might be a violation of TOS to do so.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Noway, I'm pretty new at posting, do you know how I can move it there?
you don't want to move your vision over to the forensic astrology thread... as it is astrology only. They are strict on that... However, if we had a subforum for this case we could have a visions/dreams thread... perhaps we could ask a mod if we could break one out either here or in the basement???

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:11 PM
Infinity, before you leave us, can I ask you a question? How old did the guy look to you? Like 13-14 year old, or more like an 18
year old or older?

He looked like he might be late teens or very early 20s. Old enough to drive, very muscular body, no chest hair though.

Noway
11-10-2009, 06:11 PM
It's not the same, and you don't have to move it.

I just know in the FA thread, they "do something" and make a guess what happened. I know they were wrong about Shannon because they said she was dead. So it's not fact, but I don't know if it's related to psychic visions.

ETA: Thanks nursebeeme for clearing that up!

Noway
11-10-2009, 06:13 PM
you don't want to move your vision over to the forensic astrology thread... as it is astrology only. They are strict on that... However, if we had a subforum for this case we could have a visions/dreams thread... perhaps we could ask a mod if we could break one out either here or in the basement???

That's a good idea! A subforum!

And if that's not going to happen, I like Plan B too.

Or Plan C which is to just discuss it here. (Why do I think they are going to go for this one?)

pinamia
11-10-2009, 06:15 PM
I did not see him rape her, and if she suffered I believe it was only for a very short time. I don't know who he is a friend of, as he is the only one I ever saw. Most of the images showed him shirtless but one had him wearing a dark green short sleeved shirt that seemed a little "square" for the young man that he was.

He's shirtless in the vision because he baring himself. He's got a dark green shirt because of money. I'm sure it's SP. It confirms my thoughts. He was my first suspect. Maybe you are seeing AC's aggression there and he skateboarded. SP is dark haired etc. Maybe he use to skate board. I wonder if SP has a tan car like you described. He could have killed her on Briarwood Ct. Very disturbing stuff.

Noway
11-10-2009, 06:20 PM
It's not exactly a shortcut to Briarwood (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=briarwood+ct,+orange+park,+fl&daddr=1080+Gano+Ave,+Orange+Park,+FL+32073&hl=en&geocode=&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=30.173671,-81.7178&sspn=0.004211,0.006899&ie=UTF8&ll=30.175962,-81.721019&spn=0.004211,0.006899&t=h&z=17), but that could be where he took her? Is that what you're thinking?

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:20 PM
He's shirtless in the vision because he baring himself. He's got a dark green shirt because of money. I'm sure it's SP. It confirms my thoughts. He was my first suspect. Maybe you are seeing AC's aggression there and he skateboarded. SP is dark haired etc. Maybe he use to skate board. I wonder if SP has a tan car like you described. He could have killed her on Briarwood Ct. Very disturbing stuff.

The car is light yellow, the seats are tan leather and the inside is very clean. I would like very much to see a picture of SP.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 06:22 PM
It's not the same, and you don't have to move it.

I just know in the FA thread, they "do something" and make a guess what happened. I know they were wrong about Shannon because they said she was dead. So it's not fact, but I don't know if it's related to psychic visions.

ETA: Thanks nursebeeme for clearing that up! astrology is actually a science... the study of planets, their movements as they relate to birth and horary charts, etc.(they are looking at actual objects not visions... if that makes sense) They actually were not wrong on Shannon's case. They didn't say she was dead... she had death 'markers'... finding her in a box with a closed lid with baking powder to disguise the smell of urine and feces.. makes me wonder what Susan Baker's intentions were..

I agree Noway... subforum! Please??? (with sugar on top)

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:23 PM
It's not exactly a shortcut to Briarwood (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=briarwood+ct,+orange+park,+fl&daddr=1080+Gano+Ave,+Orange+Park,+FL+32073&hl=en&geocode=&gl=us&mra=ls&sll=30.173671,-81.7178&sspn=0.004211,0.006899&ie=UTF8&ll=30.175962,-81.721019&spn=0.004211,0.006899&t=h&z=17), but that could be where he took her? Is that what you're thinking?

When I asked her where she was, she said "Briarwood". I didn't find out where she even lived until the next day. When I saw how close Briarwood was to her street it REALLY freaked me out.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:24 PM
He's shirtless in the vision because he baring himself. He's got a dark green shirt because of money. I'm sure it's SP. It confirms my thoughts. He was my first suspect. Maybe you are seeing AC's aggression there and he skateboarded. SP is dark haired etc. Maybe he use to skate board. I wonder if SP has a tan car like you described. He could have killed her on Briarwood Ct. Very disturbing stuff.

The car is light yellow, the seats are tan leather and the inside is very clean. I would like very much to see a picture of SP.

GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY!!! Someone get this girl a picture of SP! grrrrrrr.....I can't find one!!!!!!!!!

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 06:26 PM
someone had to have a screen capture of it... he took it down from his reiki site shortly (I am talking days if not hours) of media saying that there had been a "man" at the house and gave his last name/people started sleuthing.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 06:27 PM
He looked like he might be late teens or very early 20s. Old enough to drive, very muscular body, no chest hair though.


Muscular boys usually don't skateboard. You got the vision of skateboard because of the area she was murdered. Your seeing him younger in the vision than what he is. SP is around 30. Pretty close. He must have hammered her right away not later. This took around 5 minutes to do all together. He picked her up near Gano and brought her to the skating park. He wanted to assault her and she fought. He choked and killed her then hit her in the face because he was frustrated that he didn't get to rape her. SP definitely. I'm going by the dark hair unless it could be PC or someone else.

human
11-10-2009, 06:29 PM
When my friend's child was kidnapped, psychics did contact the family. As a matter of fact, all of us friends searched for him using psychic reports. That was all we could do.

Nothing came of the psychic reports, and some of them were totally wrong.

But , what the heck? Nothing else is working. I say, "Go for it."

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:33 PM
The car is light yellow, the seats are tan leather and the inside is very clean. I would like very much to see a picture of SP.

Our poster (AmandaReckonwith) here has pictures:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?start=120

I booked marked it. Hope I did this right?

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:34 PM
Muscular boys usually don't skateboard. You got the vision of skateboard because of the area she was murdered. Your seeing him younger in the vision than what he is. SP is around 30. Pretty close. He must have hammered her right away not later. This took around 5 minutes to do all together. He picked her up near Gano and brought her to the skating park. He wanted to assault her and she fought. He choked and killed her then hit her in the face because he was frustrated that he didn't get to rape her. SP definitely. I'm going by the dark hair unless it could be PC or someone else.

I'm sorry I don't know more at this time. I thought I had a lot but I see now I have only enought to frustrate. I thought LE could use the info and bring this case to a speedy conclusion, but that hasn't happened. I do have to go now, I'm writing this at work (you know how it is!!) and I've got to go home. I'll be back tomorrow, until then put your sluething caps on! Surely she has shown me something that identifies her murderer!!

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:36 PM
Muscular boys usually don't skateboard. You got the vision of skateboard because of the area she was murdered. Your seeing him younger in the vision than what he is. SP is around 30. Pretty close. He must have hammered her right away not later. This took around 5 minutes to do all together. He picked her up near Gano and brought her to the skating park. He wanted to assault her and she fought. He choked and killed her then hit her in the face because he was frustrated that he didn't get to rape her. SP definitely. I'm going by the dark hair unless it could be PC or someone else.

BBM - who in the heck is PC?

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm sorry I don't know more at this time. I thought I had a lot but I see now I have only enought to frustrate. I thought LE could use the info and bring this case to a speedy conclusion, but that hasn't happened. I do have to go now, I'm writing this at work (you know how it is!!) and I've got to go home. I'll be back tomorrow, until then put your sluething caps on! Surely she has shown me something that identifies her murderer!!

Just curious - how did you find out about websleuths?

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:38 PM
BBM - who in the heck is PC?

The live-in boyfriend.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:39 PM
Our poster (AmandaReckonwith) here has pictures:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?start=120

I booked marked it. Hope I did this right?

Fifth row down, 1st picture, guy on the left is who? His hair is right but he has facial hair. SP has a similar face but his hair looks too light.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:41 PM
The live-in boyfriend.

Ahhhhhh- but he's bald isn't he?

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:42 PM
Just curious - how did you find out about websleuths?

Found it when Caylee was missing, I've been lurking ever since. By the way I've tried to contact Hayleigh with no success. Maybe I waited too long, I don't know.

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Fifth row down, 1st picture, guy on the left is who? His hair is right but he has facial hair. SP has a similar face but his hair looks too light.

Are you on page 4? Fifth row down, first picture is Debbie B (grandmother of Somer). The next two are SP.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Ahhhhhh- but he's bald isn't he?

Guy on the LEFT has short black hair in the pic I looked at. Stubble on his face.

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:45 PM
Ahhhhhh- but he's bald isn't he?

Very bald.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Found it when Caylee was missing, I've been lurking ever since. By the way I've tried to contact Hayleigh with no success. Maybe I waited too long, I don't know.

Can you only communicate with those who are deceased? How long have you been able to do this?

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Are you on page 4? Fifth row down, first picture is Debbie B (grandmother of Somer). The next two are SP.

Picture 133 of 219

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 06:47 PM
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?start=120

6th row down, second and third pictures, are SP.. they are labled as such as well.

sorrell skye
11-10-2009, 06:49 PM
I think Infinity is talking about the young man in the yellow polo shirt.

ETA: He's on pg.4, fourth row down, in the pic on the far right, dated 10/21, and also in the fifth row down in the pic on the far left, also dated 10/21. Both pics taken at the candlelight vigil.

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:50 PM
Picture 133 of 219

Picture 143 of 219 is SP
Picture 142 of 219 is SP

Page 4

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:50 PM
Can you only communicate with those who are deceased? How long have you been able to do this?

Yes, only the deceased. I started about 3 years ago when a child here in Cinti went missing. Marcus Fiesel. It turned out to be a horrible case. I saw where he was, but he was out in the middle of nowhere, no road signs near, but what I saw was like looking through his eyes.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:52 PM
Picture 143 of 219 is SP
Picture 142 of 219 is SP

Page 4

143 the face is right. 142 the hair is too light, it's very dark like 133.

infinity14
11-10-2009, 06:54 PM
I think Infinity is talking about the young man in the yellow polo shirt.

ETA: He's on pg.4, fourth row down, in the pic on the far right, dated 10/21, and also in the fifth row down in the pic on the far left, also dated 10/21. Both pics taken at the candlelight vigil.

Yes! Hair like that!!

dannyodie
11-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Is there a difference between a sexual predator and a sexual offender? if so, what?

sexual offender = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender

sexual predator = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_predator

this should give you some information overload, in my book they are all creeps that don't deserve to breath the same air as you and I.. jmo

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Fifth row down, 1st picture, guy on the left is who? His hair is right but he has facial hair. SP has a similar face but his hair looks too light.

Are you talking about the guy kneeled down by DT? They way she is looking at him gives me goose bumps!! It's on page 4 titled a mother's heartbreak (I think).......... wow.....just wow!!!

Ransom
11-10-2009, 06:58 PM
I think Infinity is talking about the young man in the yellow polo shirt.

ETA: He's on pg.4, fourth row down, in the pic on the far right, dated 10/21, and also in the fifth row down in the pic on the far left, also dated 10/21. Both pics taken at the candlelight vigil.

That's not SP. I "thought" that was some sort of relative of Diena???? He's on some videos with the family. Not sure though.

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 07:01 PM
I'll play, but just a little. I really had nightmares with a psychic on Tori's case if ya'll remember.

Somebody here found a MySpace of a neighbour boy to 1080 Gano. There were pictures of him peeking in the women's washroom at the park across the road. He had dark hair. I think I have the link at work, but not here at home.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 07:03 PM
That's not SP. I "thought" that was some sort of relative of Diena???? He's on some videos with the family. Not sure though.


I don't think we ever found out who he was. What I keep thinking of is how DT made the comment that it could be someone who has come up and hugged her; someone who lives in the neighborhood. Seriously though - look at that picture - the look DT is giving that guy (the left hand side picture) seems to show suspicion or disbelief... of course this is my observation only.

Cheewawa007
11-10-2009, 07:05 PM
I'll play, but just a little. I really had nightmares with a psychic on Tori's case if ya'll remember.

Somebody here found a MySpace of a neighbour boy to 1080 Gano. There were pictures of him peeking in the women's washroom at the park across the road. He had dark hair. I think I have the link at work, but not here at home.

Oh my gracious - I'm so glad you decided to play - if just for a little... can you get on at work tomorrow and post the link?

MommaD
11-10-2009, 07:07 PM
that kid by DT at the vigil was always at the pressers too and when she went out to talk to media... he always made me nervous looking at him.. his eyes shifted alot.. watch videos of him. there are alot of them with dt and him .. he looks nervous.. wonder if he is dt sister bf???

MommaD
11-10-2009, 07:08 PM
I have link I think but its against tos to post ms links

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Oh my gracious - I'm so glad you decided to play - if just for a little... can you get on at work tomorrow and post the link?

I can't. He's a minor. But I can get it to infinity.

Ransom
11-10-2009, 07:10 PM
I don't think we ever found out who he was. What I keep thinking of is how DT made the comment that it could be someone who has come up and hugged her; someone who lives in the neighborhood. Seriously though - look at that picture - the look DT is giving that guy (the left hand side picture) seems to show suspicion or disbelief... of course this is my observation only.

Look at picture 75 of 219. Is that the same guy? I believe he's married to DT sister???????

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?action=view&current=dienaabbysamuelsis10-22-09.jpg

dannyodie
11-10-2009, 07:10 PM
Oh my gracious - I'm so glad you decided to play - if just for a little... can you get on at work tomorrow and post the link?

wow. that might be worth tipping to the sheriff?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 07:14 PM
Sadnpod, I wanted to ask, and I don't know if you know the answer, but do you have any idea why the mother's friend SP was there to watch the children that day and why he was there for lunch? Do you know what type of relationship he has with the mother?

I wish I did. I have the same questions. I only know heresay (rumor). From people who have been at the house since Somer first became missing. SP was described as someone who is VERY protective of DT. So much that this person thought he was her boyfriend for the first two days. I dont get why anyone who worked where she did would travel home for lunch to meet a friend or if she even had time to. Seems fishy to me. Always has.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 07:21 PM
Fifth row down, 1st picture, guy on the left is who? His hair is right but he has facial hair. SP has a similar face but his hair looks too light.

His hair is darker. I saw the original photos last week of him at the funeral and his hair was dark.

Lipin One
11-10-2009, 07:22 PM
TE=mommya;4413908]FWIW - I like the skull and bones motif. No biggie for me. My son has tons of the stuff and so do my nieces.

It's not like the skulls are drinkin beer or smokin or being violent or anything.

We all have a skull - and bones. I think it's OK.[/QUOTE]

One thing about the bag and lunch box... chances are that they were bought at the same retail place, so if one finds where one was bought then the other should have come from the same place. Not necessarily but very probable.

Now, DT and LE SURELY know where they came from. So, why not tell the public? What damage to the investigation would that do?

For websleuths: I found a few pig lunch boxes, but not the one on the sketch. Again, maybe because they are inexpensive mass merchandising models?

But, gotta try this:

Does anyone know if the pig on it is "Piglet"? You know, from Winnie the Pooh"?

I was going to search for Piglet lunch boxes, but I figure if another person or two search too there might be better results.

MommaD
11-10-2009, 07:29 PM
helllooooooooo .. anyoneeeeeeeee here still ???? I see an echo ..

Noway
11-10-2009, 07:33 PM
astrology is actually a science... the study of planets, their movements as they relate to birth and horary charts, etc.(they are looking at actual objects not visions... if that makes sense) They actually were not wrong on Shannon's case. They didn't say she was dead... she had death 'markers'... finding her in a box with a closed lid with baking powder to disguise the smell of urine and feces.. makes me wonder what Susan Baker's intentions were..

I agree Noway... subforum! Please??? (with sugar on top)

I misunderstood what clearcut and murder meant. I should have read further in that thread. Thank you.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 07:48 PM
sadnpod - thank you so much for letting us pick your brain with all of these questions. It's been very helpful.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 07:52 PM
that kid by DT at the vigil was always at the pressers too and when she went out to talk to media... he always made me nervous looking at him.. his eyes shifted alot.. watch videos of him. there are alot of them with dt and him .. he looks nervous.. wonder if he is dt sister bf???

Can u please tell me which videos this person is in? Honestly there were several kinda creepy people that came thru line. But one individual, I have been looking for and maybe this is him. Pls help me figure out who you are talking about and I will go into further details after I look at him.

Thanks... also I only know a first name... no last.. am I allowed to just post the first name?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 07:53 PM
sadnpod - thank you so much for letting us pick your brain with all of these questions. It's been very helpful.

Your more than welcome. I just want the same thing you all do. Thank you all for just being here.

MommaD
11-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Can u please tell me which videos this person is in? Honestly there were several kinda creepy people that came thru line. But one individual, I have been looking for and maybe this is him. Pls help me figure out who you are talking about and I will go into further details after I look at him.

Thanks... also I only know a first name... no last.. am I allowed to just post the first name?

have to give me a few to find them.. ok/??

I think a first would be ok..just not a last ok???

pinamia
11-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Scared Monkeys.com are talking about something relevant. They found an article about a teen assaulting 3 Jacksonville girls and not being charged because he's well connected. I hope Infinity looks at the photo and sees if she thinks it's the guy. Thanks.

http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/coverstory.pdf

doggies
11-10-2009, 08:03 PM
I wish I did. I have the same questions. I only know heresay (rumor). From people who have been at the house since Somer first became missing. SP was described as someone who is VERY protective of DT. So much that this person thought he was her boyfriend for the first two days. I dont get why anyone who worked where she did would travel home for lunch to meet a friend or if she even had time to. Seems fishy to me. Always has.
That's exactly how I described Diena's actions about SP the other night. Remember when someone in the first press conference asked who was there at the house that afternoon? She immediately stopped, looked them straight in the eyes and said, "A very VERY good friend."? It was 'very' protective-as if she were warning them off and telling them to stay off.

Hippy Chick
11-10-2009, 08:07 PM
I wish I did. I have the same questions. I only know heresay (rumor). From people who have been at the house since Somer first became missing. SP was described as someone who is VERY protective of DT. So much that this person thought he was her boyfriend for the first two days. I dont get why anyone who worked where she did would travel home for lunch to meet a friend or if she even had time to. Seems fishy to me. Always has.

Why do you think that is fishy? I have male friends I have met for lunch before and their wasen't anything fishy about it...

pinamia
11-10-2009, 08:12 PM
Why do you think that is fishy? I have male friends I have met for lunch before and their wasen't anything fishy about it...

Did you ask him to stick around and later found your child dead? Sorry but that's why it's fishy.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 08:14 PM
Someone had posted about a California LE Officer's involvement with some murders there in the 80's. I just wanted to fill in a little more. There was Craig Peyer, a California Hwy Patrolman, who stalked women he pulled over on I-15 in California, killing at least one of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Peyer

Then there was George Gwaltney, another CA Hwy Patrolman, who was convicted of raping and murdering a young woman after pulling her over: http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F2/790/1378/8638/

And additionally there was Florida State Trooper, Tim Harris, who stalked and terrorized his wife, and raped and killed a young woman he pulled over (info on him is a little sparse - but if you go down to the bit about Lake Placid Police Chief Phil Williams, it talks about his participation in investigating the case): http://www.staugustine.com/stories/042003/new_1461671.shtml

All of that said, here's my take on the alleged attempted abduction that happened 10 days before Somer went missing. I think that the little girl (K.B.) rode out in front of a car driven by S.P. There was a law enforcement officer (probably off duty) riding with friends and they saw this occur. They were worried about her safety because she was young, alone, and pulling out in front of traffic, so they pulled over to her - I have to admit to having done this sort of thing myself if I see a young child behaving dangerously in the roadway. I've even asked where their parent is and I've gone to the door and talked to the parent. It probably doesn't do any good, but I've been known to do it anyway. Maybe they were worried enough that they did suggest they take her to her mother - not the way they should have handled it, but maybe that's what they did.

By that time, S.P. had also pulled over, and not knowing there was a law enforcement officer in the first car, she was concerned (first about almost having hit the girl, and second, because she didn't know who the people were in the first car). I don't know why at that point all the adults just didn't get out and talk to each other, but for whatever reason, the first car (maybe thinking she was ok, plus, she'd already refused their ride), moved on.

I don't know why LE didn't release more info on it. Maybe the officer didn't want to be caught up in the press. Maybe he was undercover. Who knows. I just don't get the feeling that this particular incident was related to Somer's later abduction and murder.

momtective
11-10-2009, 08:21 PM
I've been thinking...seems I can't get this case out of my head...
The backpack and the lunch tote is what really needs to be found. There will most likely be DNA and prints on these items. So this is my theory.
If Somer was killed in the Gano house and if the Gano house was still under construction at the time of the murder, I'm wondering if these items might be found in the wall of the Gano house. Maybe even behind insulation or perhaps just behind the dry wall.
I'd really like to know if this has been checked out.

Ransom
11-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Can u please tell me which videos this person is in? Honestly there were several kinda creepy people that came thru line. But one individual, I have been looking for and maybe this is him. Pls help me figure out who you are talking about and I will go into further details after I look at him.

Thanks... also I only know a first name... no last.. am I allowed to just post the first name?

Don't ask me as I am new with all these rules. Maybe just the initial of the first name?

amysmom
11-10-2009, 08:23 PM
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?start=120

6th row down, second and third pictures, are SP.. they are labled as such as well.

nb..your link (& others ) takes me to SP--8th row down--pix 1&2 :waitasec:

Ransom
11-10-2009, 08:26 PM
nb..your link (& others ) takes me to SP--8th row down--pix 1&2 :waitasec:

I've discovered NONE of us can count or we are looking at some different links. :waitasec:

amysmom
11-10-2009, 08:35 PM
I think Infinity is talking about the young man in the yellow polo shirt.

ETA: He's on pg.4, fourth row down, in the pic on the far right, dated 10/21, and also in the fifth row down in the pic on the far left, also dated 10/21. Both pics taken at the candlelight vigil.

It's 5 rows down for me--pix 1 :waitasec:

Most of us wondered who he (yellow polo shirt & buzz cut) was from day 1..I still dont know, does anyone?

Hippy Chick
11-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Did you ask him to stick around and later found your child dead? Sorry but that's why it's fishy.

No, that didn't happen Thank God...... If he did this I still don't think the mom is involved,

human
11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
nb..your link (& others ) takes me to SP--8th row down--pix 1&2 :waitasec:

I count it as the fifth one down on the left. First one on the left. Dark hair, yellow shirt.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
After all I have read, I'm changing my mind on the guy. If the police are protecting someone, it's him. There is no reason for no arrest.

http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/082708/met_323434623.shtml

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Why do you think that is fishy? I have male friends I have met for lunch before and their wasen't anything fishy about it...

It seems fishy to me. only my opinion. Seems a long way to meet someone at lunch and then ask him to stay to meet the kids.. who usually was there, anyone? I have many male friends I have gone to lunch with.. but honestly, the few times I met a man at home for lunch... well we didnt eat. But then again, its only my opinion. Back in my twenties, I met male friends for lunch at home to smoke weed. Im just bein truthful. Just friends, just lunch, is usually at a restaurant. I dont think any of this has anything to do wiht somers murder. Other than information may be withheld due to people not wanting LE to discover other things. only my opinions.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 08:44 PM
Scared Monkeys.com are talking about something relevant. They found an article about a teen assaulting 3 Jacksonville girls and not being charged because he's well connected. I hope Infinity looks at the photo and sees if she thinks it's the guy. Thanks.

http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/coverstory.pdf

I handled a case really similar to that one time involving a county commissioner. The sherriff was friends with him, so he did the smartest thing and immediately asked the Attorney General's office to step in and investigate. The guy did end up being found guilty, but the press (and their school friends) just excoriated the girls involved. Ate them up alive. It was awful.

If the kid in the above link keeps going like he is, there is a lot of disaster and heartbreak in the future for both him and his future victims.

I don't think this is the guy in this case though, the other incidents seem to share a very similar pattern, and it seems to work for him, so I think he'd continue with that pattern. This does illustrate the fact that this could very well be someone with experience as an SO, but no actual record - maybe because he hasn't been caught yet, or he's been able to plead down to non SO charges in the past.

Noway
11-10-2009, 08:45 PM
I like the grid view (http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/?albumview=grid)because it puts them all one one page. SP on page 4 (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/seanp.jpg). And another (http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Somer%20Thompson/seanp-1.jpg) on the same page.

Lipin One
11-10-2009, 08:47 PM
OT

But, does anyone think the pig character on the lunch box could be pigglet?

If so, could someone help search for it?

human
11-10-2009, 08:51 PM
I don't think DT and SP had some romance going that day. Too little time. But I am wondering why she came home for lunch with such a short short short time frame for lunch.

I have a lot of friends that are into alternative healing. Reiki is just a sort of massage. No big deal. If people tried it, they would like it, I am sure. I don't think that he would have has time over lunch for reiki unless her lunch time was a lot longer than an hour.

I just don't get the going home part.

Really, SP could not have had the time. He had about a 15 minute window of opportunity the way I see it.

I would think that a perp would like to have a little more time (how creepy is that to type!) Why wouldn't SP do something when he would come under no suspicion? I suppose people can be really, really stupid, but that seems really stupid for no reason that I can see.


As far as Somer's missing stuff, why wouldn't they just keep it or trash it anywhere?
I think the perp kept it for a souvenir. Why not throw it with her otherwise? I don't think the perp thought that she would be found.

It's hard to picture WLK walking through the woods and coming upon Somer. Didn't he have a car that he could drive? Of course, he could be skulking around and walk places for all we know.

The lack of info by LE is extremely puzzling.

And the attorney for DT is puzzling. Don't they get something like $300 an hour? Has anyone ever seen an attorney right there after an incident like this? I don't know as this is the first case I've followed on here.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 08:52 PM
I handled a case really similar to that one time involving a county commissioner. The sherriff was friends with him, so he did the smartest thing and immediately asked the Attorney General's office to step in and investigate. The guy did end up being found guilty, but the press (and their school friends) just excoriated the girls involved. Ate them up alive. It was awful.

If the kid in the above link keeps going like he is, there is a lot of disaster and heartbreak in the future for both him and his future victims.

I don't think this is the guy in this case though, the other incidents seem to share a very similar pattern, and it seems to work for him, so I think he'd continue with that pattern. This does illustrate the fact that this could very well be someone with experience as an SO, but no actual record - maybe because he hasn't been caught yet, or he's been able to plead down to non SO charges in the past.

You are right. Just wishful thinking on my part. I just wish they would arrest the monster or monsters soon. This has been too long for me and I can't rest until they find this monster.

Noway
11-10-2009, 08:54 PM
O/T

Just want to say THANKS to AmandaReckonWith for her Photobucket. Found myself watching the slideshow of all those pictures ...

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I dunno, at this point with the bookbag and lunchbox I'm just like, "hey, if anyone sees a grown man with a little girl's lunchbox or bookbag of any type, or finds a little girls bookbag or lunchbox on the ground, in the trash, wherever, tip it in to LE."

Because I just keep thinking that really, we have no way of knowing exactly what it was she was carrying that day, because the family still seems to be unclear on it. And no matter how many proposed photos we find, we don't have anyone who can verify whether or not its the right model.

Noway
11-10-2009, 08:55 PM
OT

But, does anyone think the pig character on the lunch box could be pigglet?

If so, could someone help search for it?

If it was Piglet, would LE not just say so? The artist's drawing is not Piglet-like, but I don't know how much merit we're to give the sketches. I'm trying to link to the lunchbox in my signature but was having issues (lol ... me and JVM).

ETA: Links work and I don't think it looks like Piglet. JMO

doggies
11-10-2009, 08:58 PM
Scared Monkeys.com are talking about something relevant. They found an article about a teen assaulting 3 Jacksonville girls and not being charged because he's well connected. I hope Infinity looks at the photo and sees if she thinks it's the guy. Thanks.

http://www.folioweekly.com/documents/coverstory.pdf
O. M. G.
Now THAT'S a sex offender!
Maybe the big girls give him too much grief. I am infuriated! :furious: :furious: :furious:

amysmom
11-10-2009, 09:00 PM
sadnpod..are the kids going to nc memorial for their sis? If not, is it cos mom wont allow it?

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 09:02 PM
I don't think DT and SP had some romance going that day. Too little time. But I am wondering why she came home for lunch with such a short short short time frame for lunch.

I have a lot of friends that are into alternative healing. Reiki is just a sort of massage. No big deal. If people tried it, they would like it, I am sure. I don't think that he would have has time over lunch for reiki unless her lunch time was a lot longer than an hour.

I just don't get the going home part.

Really, SP could not have had the time. He had about a 15 minute window of opportunity the way I see it.

I would think that a perp would like to have a little more time (how creepy is that to type!) Why wouldn't SP do something when he would come under no suspicion? I suppose people can be really, really stupid, but that seems really stupid for no reason that I can see.


As far as Somer's missing stuff, why wouldn't they just keep it or trash it anywhere?
I think the perp kept it for a souvenir. Why not throw it with her otherwise? I don't think the perp thought that she would be found.

It's hard to picture WLK walking through the woods and coming upon Somer. Didn't he have a car that he could drive? Of course, he could be skulking around and walk places for all we know.

The lack of info by LE is extremely puzzling.

And the attorney for DT is puzzling. Don't they get something like $300 an hour? Has anyone ever seen an attorney right there after an incident like this? I don't know as this is the first case I've followed on here.


I agree with you on most of this. I can see WLK driving by her on the way back from the nursing home and grabbing her though. Be nice to know if he visited the nursing home that day. I can think of lots of reasons not having to do with the crime that mom and SP might meet at the house, and ultimately, unless I think of a reason that would have to do with the crime, then it doesn't make a difference to me. Maybe mom wanted to talk about her relationship with PC. It seems to me that SP could be gay. I say that only because PC doesn't seem to mind the mom being involved with him. I also don't think SP had the time to commit the murder. It WOULD interest me if mom had SP over there that day because she was worried about somebody she thought was in the neighborhood.

The attorney does entertainment law doesn't he? I hope that's true and I didn't just make it up. If so that prob means he would take a percentage of any deals in order to rep the mother, or the family, instead of insisting on payment up front.

pinamia
11-10-2009, 09:05 PM
O. M. G.
Now THAT'S a sex offender!
Maybe the big girls give him too much grief. I am infuriated! :furious: :furious: :furious:

Just one correction. That's a LE protected SO and a violent one at that.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 09:05 PM
O. M. G.
Now THAT'S a sex offender!
Maybe the big girls give him too much grief. I am infuriated! :furious: :furious: :furious:

You know, in reference to this case, I'm thinking the families of those girls could file a federal civil rights complaint against the 19 yr old and against LE as well. At this point, I think that's what I would do in their shoes.

hopetohelp
11-10-2009, 09:07 PM
Oh, and I just love the way they've reframed the sexual assault of the boy in the locker room as "hazing."

Ok, I know. O/T

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:10 PM
I dont think there was a romance either. I think dt has alot of male friends.. and I think they are just friends.

I cannot find the person I was speaking of in any of the pics.
Heres the scenerio: All from my point of view.

While receiving people at the memorial service, a man with short brown hair, pale blue eyes, maybe 5'9, slender, who introduced himself as chris came thru the line and shook ST's (i was sitting behind ST, but was leaning up and thanking him for his help too) hand saying he was among the initial search party for somer. He said he was friends with DT and PC. He expressed his sorrow and we all hugged and thanked him again. I didnt think much of it as we were all exhausted and drained. he proceeded down the line to DT. I did not hear the conversation.
After the service, the day of the burial, we were waiting beside ST's donated van when we saw this same person be ejected from the family vehicle. He approached us and said there wasnt enough room for him. ST invited him to ride with us. He did. I did not have a good feeling about him. I dont know why. It was only a feeling. I sat in the front of the van, kneeled on the floor, in the middle of the two seats on the way to cemetary. ST's friend sat in back with chris. He told us he was very close to DT and PC. I was so awed by all the people and balloons and comforting ST that I didnt really pay attention to what he said. He wore a tshirt and tight wrangler jeans. Does anyone have any idea who this person is?

human
11-10-2009, 09:13 PM
O. M. G.
Now THAT'S a sex offender!
Maybe the big girls give him too much grief. I am infuriated! :furious: :furious: :furious:

Where is this kid now?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:19 PM
When we arrived at the cemetary, we had a hard time getting ST's wheelchair up the hill. We stood on the side of the family at the end of the coffin. ST, with friend beside him on left, me on right and another friend behind us. Chris was on my right. Im not going to get into personal things that happened at the cemetary, but an Uncle of DT's said some unkind remarks to ST and demanded to know who this person was... asked for his pass.. he said he was a friend of DT's and was invited. The situation seemed to be escalating and i was busy trying to keep ST calm, Chris then walked to the back of the tent where LE was standing. I never saw him again. I turned this info in to LE. I have not been able to get him off my mind. ST has questioned LE about him, but they are evasive about everything. Since we were asked not to attend the reception, I dont know if he proceeded back to the church or not. He could have lied about being friends with DT. He could have made it look like he was with us to LE. But he was not. Any ideas?

Chili Fries
11-10-2009, 09:22 PM
I dont think there was a romance either. I think dt has alot of male friends.. and I think they are just friends.

I cannot find the person I was speaking of in any of the pics.
Heres the scenerio: All from my point of view.

While receiving people at the memorial service, a man with short brown hair, pale blue eyes, maybe 5'9, slender, who introduced himself as chris came thru the line and shook ST's (i was sitting behind ST, but was leaning up and thanking him for his help too) hand saying he was among the initial search party for somer. He said he was friends with DT and PC. He expressed his sorrow and we all hugged and thanked him again. I didnt think much of it as we were all exhausted and drained. he proceeded down the line to DT. I did not hear the conversation.
After the service, the day of the burial, we were waiting beside ST's donated van when we saw this same person be ejected from the family vehicle. He approached us and said there wasnt enough room for him. ST invited him to ride with us. He did. I did not have a good feeling about him. I dont know why. It was only a feeling. I sat in the front of the van, kneeled on the floor, in the middle of the two seats on the way to cemetary. ST's friend sat in back with chris. He told us he was very close to DT and PC. I was so awed by all the people and balloons and comforting ST that I didnt really pay attention to what he said. He wore a tshirt and tight wrangler jeans. Does anyone have any idea who this person is?
Could he have been this guy?
edited after sadnpod checked out the pic

doggies
11-10-2009, 09:22 PM
Where is this kid now?
I tried looking the article up in their files, but they only list those since last January ('09). I didn't see it, nor did I find any way to put in a name for a jump.
I was particularly interested in reading any feedback from the following month.
I also want to know where this 'dad' is. (Not that he's any candidate for Father of the Year-or Month-or Day). He's reported as having resigned his position in LE, but at the time of this article, the sheriff's race had not been decided. I want to know if he's involved in LE.
Sure shows up that thin blue line, doesn't it? And it's getting wider and wider, it appears.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:24 PM
As far as the attorney for DT goes....its not hard to get an attorney when there is this much publicity...at no cost at all. I can understand her need for one... for many different, innocent reasons.

Chili Fries
11-10-2009, 09:24 PM
Here's another picture of Chris:

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:25 PM
Could he have been this guy?
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/m_7540f61cc8b96ce2f827df035007e37a.jpg

not him.

passionflower
11-10-2009, 09:27 PM
I dont think there was a romance either. I think dt has alot of male friends.. and I think they are just friends.

I cannot find the person I was speaking of in any of the pics.
Heres the scenerio: All from my point of view.

While receiving people at the memorial service, a man with short brown hair, pale blue eyes, maybe 5'9, slender, who introduced himself as chris came thru the line and shook ST's (i was sitting behind ST, but was leaning up and thanking him for his help too) hand saying he was among the initial search party for somer. He said he was friends with DT and PC. He expressed his sorrow and we all hugged and thanked him again. I didnt think much of it as we were all exhausted and drained. he proceeded down the line to DT. I did not hear the conversation.
After the service, the day of the burial, we were waiting beside ST's donated van when we saw this same person be ejected from the family vehicle. He approached us and said there wasnt enough room for him. ST invited him to ride with us. He did. I did not have a good feeling about him. I dont know why. It was only a feeling. I sat in the front of the van, kneeled on the floor, in the middle of the two seats on the way to cemetary. ST's friend sat in back with chris. He told us he was very close to DT and PC. I was so awed by all the people and balloons and comforting ST that I didnt really pay attention to what he said. He wore a tshirt and tight wrangler jeans. Does anyone have any idea who this person is?

Wasn't WLKuhn was it???

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:28 PM
Here's another picture of Chris:
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/v227/1375/39/n650055626_4069.jpg

I dont think so, but its hard to tell without seeing his eyes.

passionflower
11-10-2009, 09:29 PM
SADNPOD
Maybe the media has him in the camera lense! at the funeral.........wouldn't hurt to contact media and ask!
Go to local media and ask under 'contact us' or a blog!

Wearing a T shirt and tight jeans seems disrespectful.........and being shoved out of mom's car..........
why would he even try to be with DT?
Only her family and children woud be in that car......she must know him......

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Wasn't WLKuhn was it???

No... although I have wondered if he came thru the line.. he seems creepy familiar somehow, but there were so many people.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:31 PM
SADNPOD
Maybe the media has him in the camera lense! at the funeral.........wouldn't hurt to contact media and ask!
Go to local media and ask under 'contact us' or a blog!

Media was not allowed at burial. the van hid us from medias view at the church.

amysmom
11-10-2009, 09:33 PM
As far as Somer's missing stuff, why wouldn't they just keep it or trash it anywhere?
I think the perp kept it for a souvenir. Why not throw it with her otherwise? I don't think the perp thought that she would be found.


s&bbm

I think perp lit them on fire (soot) to eliminate prints & other evidence..I don't think the perp thought she would be found either & did this only for extra protection..but!..she was found & can forensics examine the soot to determine the material?

passionflower
11-10-2009, 09:35 PM
Media was not allowed at burial. the van hid us from medias view at the church.

Did he get hidden from the media switching cars or on wrong side???
LE in the area when he did this?
Seems the perp would like to attend.........
very interesting.
Definately tell Sam T lawyer this!

passionflower
11-10-2009, 09:37 PM
How old was this guy????
Was he tan?
Construction worker type build?

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 09:45 PM
I misunderstood what clearcut and murder meant. I should have read further in that thread. Thank you. really this is something you should adress to a forensic astrologer. You should have read further and I hope you did.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:48 PM
How old was this guy????
Was he tan?
Construction worker type build?

mid to late 30's. yes, he was tan. yes, he was in good shape. Not BUFF but not flabby.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 09:51 PM
Did he get hidden from the media switching cars or on wrong side???
LE in the area when he did this?
Seems the perp would like to attend.........
very interesting.
Definately tell Sam T lawyer this!
LE was there. Media was across teh street. he was hidden from their view exiting the family vehicle as well as entering ours. I am going to try to find out more about him this wkend.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 09:52 PM
sadnpod have you looked thru all of amandareckonwith's photos to see if you recognize any faces?

eta: esp from the candlelight vigils

amysmom
11-10-2009, 10:08 PM
I dont think there was a romance either. I think dt has alot of male friends.. and I think they are just friends.

I cannot find the person I was speaking of in any of the pics.
Heres the scenerio: All from my point of view.

While receiving people at the memorial service, a man with short brown hair, pale blue eyes, maybe 5'9, slender, who introduced himself as chris came thru the line and shook ST's (i was sitting behind ST, but was leaning up and thanking him for his help too) hand saying he was among the initial search party for somer. He said he was friends with DT and PC. He expressed his sorrow and we all hugged and thanked him again. I didnt think much of it as we were all exhausted and drained. he proceeded down the line to DT. I did not hear the conversation.
After the service, the day of the burial, we were waiting beside ST's donated van when we saw this same person be ejected from the family vehicle. He approached us and said there wasnt enough room for him. ST invited him to ride with us. He did. I did not have a good feeling about him. I dont know why. It was only a feeling. I sat in the front of the van, kneeled on the floor, in the middle of the two seats on the way to cemetary. ST's friend sat in back with chris. He told us he was very close to DT and PC. I was so awed by all the people and balloons and comforting ST that I didnt really pay attention to what he said. He wore a tshirt and tight wrangler jeans. Does anyone have any idea who this person is?

bbm

You know more about him then any of us but only if he told the truth (very close to DT and PC)..I say this too about truth cos some think he may be married to sis of DT but not sure where that info comes from.

eta..link to ms/fb of DT or sis may tell us who chris is or is not.

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 10:12 PM
sadnpod, it kinda sounds to me like this guy was LE. I hope you figure it out though. Nagging little details can't make you nuts.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:19 PM
I will inquire about who man is in yellow shirt. I am almost sure this guy was not LE, but its possible. I think man is yellow shirt is DT's broinlaw or equivalent. I will be online this wkend and will pass on anything I find out.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:26 PM
I would like to comment on ST's comment about the soot. I asked where that comment came from... he stated it was said to him by someone who I dont find to be a very good source. That LE told her that and I dont believe it. Again, only my opinion. They have been so tightlipped that I cannot imagine them telling her that. Unless there is something else to back this up, I wouldnt waste time on it.

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 10:28 PM
sadnpod, you should go play a game for 11 posts.

:)

I have a picture to send you.

edit: Sorry. If you don't know what I'm talking about, that might sound rude.
You need 50 posts to accept PM's.

:)

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 10:32 PM
I would like to comment on ST's comment about the soot. I asked where that comment came from... he stated it was said to him by someone who I dont find to be a very good source. That LE told her that and I dont believe it. Again, only my opinion. They have been so tightlipped that I cannot imagine them telling her that. Unless there is something else to back this up, I wouldnt waste time on it. I have often and frequently actually thought the same thing about the soot thing said to ST. Le would not do this. I actually have discontinued it in my own repetoire of thoughts.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:33 PM
sadnpod, it kinda sounds to me like this guy was LE. I hope you figure it out though. Nagging little details can't make you nuts.

Honestly, until someone is arrested and charged I think I will continue to be nuts. I am suppose to be packed n ready to go in the am. But i cant get off here. lol.
another observation... chris could have just spoken to the family and told us there wasnt any room. I didnt see him actually get out of the vehicle, just walking over. On hindsight, he could have played us all the way around. Another sad reason that there is discontent. Wish I could just ask DT who this is... and wonder how much could be gained with more info all the way around. I will check out those photos too... I dont think I have seen them. Thank you allllllll...

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:36 PM
sadnpod, you should go play a game for 11 posts.

:)

I have a picture to send you.

edit: Sorry. If you don't know what I'm talking about, that might sound rude.
You need 50 posts to accept PM's.

:)

I dont know what you are talking about?

paris_paris
11-10-2009, 10:41 PM
I dont know what you are talking about?

I knew it! :)

You have to get your post count up to 50 before you can receive private messages. We aren't really supposed to talk on the forum about sending private messages, so I won't say I'm going to send you one.

If you go into the games thread, you can build up your post count quickly.

Be warned, your private message box will likely fill up quickly with questions from people.

The games forum is here.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44

doggies
11-10-2009, 10:48 PM
Media was not allowed at burial. the van hid us from medias view at the church.
If no one else has brought this up, sadnpod, media were camped right outside the church and recording almost everyone who went in. I'm sure you were unaware, as you should have been. But they were across the street and had everyone in their zoom lenses.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:55 PM
I knew it! :)

You have to get your post count up to 50 before you can receive private messages. We aren't really supposed to talk on the forum about sending private messages, so I won't say I'm going to send you one.

If you go into the games thread, you can build up your post count quickly.

Be warned, your private message box will likely fill up quickly with questions from people.

The games forum is here.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44
okiedokie

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Thanks to all of you for listening and your empathy.... it means alot to me...

human
11-10-2009, 10:58 PM
Here is my theory. Somer goes up to Gano house and goes into the yard.

Construction worker(s) start talking to her. "How come you're here all alone?" is your mother home?" "Won't your family wonder where you are if you don't come home right away?"

"Do you want to come in and see what I've been doing? I have_______to show you."

That's my guess and my easiest guess of what happened. Voila. Vanished into thin air.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 11:01 PM
If no one else has brought this up, sadnpod, media were camped right outside the church and recording almost everyone who went in. I'm sure you were unaware, as you should have been. But they were across the street and had everyone in their zoom lenses.

I had it all recorded and have watched for him. They got us goin in, but none coming out that I know of. I was pushing ST's wheelchair. Does anyone remember seeing this on TV... coming out... not going in.. or a man in tshirt and tight jeans around the family vehicle?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 11:09 PM
Here is my theory. Somer goes up to Gano house and goes into the yard.

Construction worker(s) start talking to her. "How come you're here all alone?" is your mother home?" "Won't your family wonder where you are if you don't come home right away?"

"Do you want to come in and see what I've been doing? I have_______to show you."

That's my guess and my easiest guess of what happened. Voila. Vanished into thin air.

I think until we know more of where she was left... and cod... its speculation only... my money is still on WLK....

mommya
11-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Here is my theory. Somer goes up to Gano house and goes into the yard.

Construction worker(s) start talking to her. "How come you're here all alone?" is your mother home?" "Won't your family wonder where you are if you don't come home right away?"

"Do you want to come in and see what I've been doing? I have_______to show you."

That's my guess and my easiest guess of what happened. Voila. Vanished into thin air.


That has got to be the main theory really.

The only other thing that could throw it off is the bizarre mention of CWG on the report.

The two cannot go together it seems. At the time of the police report - they were not onto the house on Gano at all - were they?

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 11:22 PM
That has got to be the main theory really.

The only other thing that could throw it off is the bizarre mention of CWG on the report.

The two cannot go together it seems. At the time of the police report - they were not onto the house on Gano at all - were they?

RUMOR only... but I have heard that the bizarre mention of CWG on police report...
I heard he was cleared..... so many bizarre things... so many questions... anyone know why he was on the list.... I was told he was an aquaintance of PC.... but IDK.... the list itself is bizarre. Is it all the people that were at the house when the report was filed? Its a very interesting list of diversified people to say the least.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 11:28 PM
Im confused... was the house on gano empty., or were workers there... didthey admit speaking to her? I thought she was last seen by a friend outside the house frowning...

Is it possible that WLK still had access to house he once lived in on Gano, like DR's daughter possibly at work at that time? Does she still live there?
does anyone know if he moved on his own or was asked to leave?
does anyone know if he had a vehicle?

I have heard DT was friends with daughter.... does anyone know if this is true? I thot was rumor when I heard it....

human
11-10-2009, 11:28 PM
[QUOTE=mommya;4415847]That has got to be the main theory really.

The only other thing that could throw it off is the bizarre mention of CWG on the report.

The two cannot go together it seems. At the time of the police report - they were not onto the house on Gano at all - were they?[/QUOTE

Yes, that CWG thing is still too too bizarre.

There was a post a few posts ago about the son of the guy that was running against Beseler.

I found him by going on 411 and then it directed me to the USearch site. His middle initial is "K". It lists three addresses in Orange Park, but of course you have to pay to get those.

He had a career in wrestling in high school, but with his attitude, I can't see him making it in college. Are there any colleges by OP that he could be going to?

At any rate, I figure if he's not going to college, he's doing some kind of manual labor that requires physical fitness such as construction or lawn service. He's around 20 or 21.

He seems like the type of kid that would be cocky enough to move on with his interests and activities. Not good ones.

sadnpod
11-10-2009, 11:32 PM
I also heard the trash route goes from op to gcs to folkston, anyone know.. could she have been left in gcs instead of op and still ended up in folkston?

human
11-10-2009, 11:43 PM
sanpod-doesn't Somer's Dad have any friends in common with Diena? Usually there are people that don't want to take sides that they have in common and he could ask them some questions?

The last place Somer was seen was at the Gano house. A workman named Kyle said that he talked to her.

CWG has not been cleared. He is missing.

I think the people on the list were maybe close in the neighborhood and at the house when they started searching. IDK, That's why the CWG thing is weird. I would assume that LE would check ID's. They had too much info on the list for CWG.

Where did you hear that he was a friend of PC?

amysmom
11-10-2009, 11:55 PM
I had it all recorded and have watched for him. They got us goin in, but none coming out that I know of. I was pushing ST's wheelchair. Does anyone remember seeing this on TV... coming out... not going in.. or a man in tshirt and tight jeans around the family vehicle?

I saw someone (you!) pushing ST's wheelchair in but not out..I did not notice this man at all.

nursebeeme
11-10-2009, 11:59 PM
goodnight all..... I hope the new day will bring clarity and closure to all the missing tonight .

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:01 AM
heresay... ST was very upset when I told him this person was registered as a SO. He then called LE and told me that they told him this person was friend of PC and not a person of interest. again,, idk...

my head is spinning.

So, he is missing, since when? He was there and now he is gone? The people there were not checked out then? Does this make sense to any one???? help!

also, does anyone know if people were arrested at DT's house day before somer was missing? I saw this too on HLN, bu they stated that the address was wrong, that LE had that address in their head and it was entered wrong. This doesnt make sense especially if it was the day before... why would that address be in their heads then?
I am not gonna sleep again to nite, am I... and I havent packed a thing!

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:08 AM
sanpod-doesn't Somer's Dad have any friends in common with Diena? Usually there are people that don't want to take sides that they have in common and he could ask them some questions?

The last place Somer was seen was at the Gano house. A workman named Kyle said that he talked to her.

CWG has not been cleared. He is missing.

I think the people on the list were maybe close in the neighborhood and at the house when they started searching. IDK, That's why the CWG thing is weird. I would assume that LE would check ID's. They had too much info on the list for CWG.

Where did you hear that he was a friend of PC?

They were never together in florida... friends in common were in nc, so no connects in jax, unless I can find friends of my own here that knew them... so far, none in common. PC told ST's mother for none of us to contact them.. to go thru her attorney...

amysmom
11-11-2009, 12:10 AM
Im confused... was the house on gano empty., or were workers there... didthey admit speaking to her? I thought she was last seen by a friend outside the house frowning...

Is it possible that WLK still had access to house he once lived in on Gano, like DR's daughter possibly at work at that time? Does she still live there?
does anyone know if he moved on his own or was asked to leave?
does anyone know if he had a vehicle?

I have heard DT was friends with daughter.... does anyone know if this is true? I thot was rumor when I heard it....

IIRC, that boy saw her frowning by those big tanks near house on gano.

WLK had a vehicle..Others know more about WLK & DR's daughter then me..sorry!

human
11-11-2009, 12:10 AM
Wow! I don't think anyone on this site knew that CWG was a friend of PC. I don't know how he could possibly be cleared as it appears that LE doesn't know where he is according to posts on this site.

I think the robbery suspects were there the day after. I think according to reports on this site that they were picked up when LE was checking people out in the neighborhood the day after. I don't recall for sure as there is so much info out there.

What doesn't make sense is that CWG's name was listed on the report. Can you find out for sure if he was friend's with PC? That's really scary weird info.

human
11-11-2009, 12:14 AM
They were never together in florida... friends in common were in nc, so no connects in jax, unless I can find friends of my own here that knew them... so far, none in common. PC told ST's mother for none of us to contact them.. to go thru her attorney...

So who is PC to tell anyone anything?!!!! He is not their father! PC has absolutely no legal rights for any reason for anything! I assume since they are not divorced, Dad certainly can ask what he wants.

To be kept out of the loop for his child is disgusting to me. Who does PC think he is!!!

mycroft
11-11-2009, 12:16 AM
If it was Piglet, would LE not just say so? The artist's drawing is not Piglet-like, but I don't know how much merit we're to give the sketches. I'm trying to link to the lunchbox in my signature but was having issues (lol ... me and JVM).

ETA: Links work and I don't think it looks like Piglet. JMO

It doesn't look like him to me. And if it were him (and not a knockoff) that character is owned by Disney and it would be no trouble at all for LE to get a photo of a licensed product.

amysmom
11-11-2009, 12:17 AM
PC told ST's mother for none of us to contact them.. to go thru her attorney...

sbm

This is so wrong! :furious:

Good luck packing!

mommya
11-11-2009, 12:20 AM
heresay... ST was very upset when I told him this person was registered as a SO. He then called LE and told me that they told him this person was friend of PC and not a person of interest. again,, idk...

my head is spinning.

So, he is missing, since when? He was there and now he is gone? The people there were not checked out then? Does this make sense to any one???? help!

also, does anyone know if people were arrested at DT's house day before somer was missing? I saw this too on HLN, bu they stated that the address was wrong, that LE had that address in their head and it was entered wrong. This doesnt make sense especially if it was the day before... why would that address be in their heads then?
I am not gonna sleep again to nite, am I... and I havent packed a thing!
Wow - that is totally different than "It was a case of mistaken identity"

So CWG was really a friend of PC? He had to have been there then - to end up on the report.

You know - we do not really know how long DT and SP have been friends do we?

Could SP really be PC's friend more than mom's. And if so - then would he also be friends with CWG?

If you say mom's behavior sort of changed lately - possibly due to influence from PC - maybe there is some sort of wierd control issue going on there.

I need to think on this for a bit.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 12:29 AM
O. M. G.
Now THAT'S a sex offender!
Maybe the big girls give him too much grief. I am infuriated! :furious: :furious: :furious:

I'd call him a predator. How arrogant and assuming!!!! Those poor girls. He's already wrecked at least 3 young lives.
This boy is a time bomb.

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:31 AM
So who is PC to tell anyone anything?!!!! He is not their father! PC has absolutely no legal rights for any reason for anything! I assume since they are not divorced, Dad certainly can ask what he wants.

To be kept out of the loop for his child is disgusting to me. Who does PC think he is!!!

Those are my thoughts exactly. I cant say what ST's mother had to say about it... I just wonder how DT and her mother would feel if the situation were reversed?

I am sure I do not know the intracacies of their relationship... I keep asking myself what ST did to make DT so bitter towards him.. I am not fond of my ex, for good reason, but I think if something this tragic happened... we would be on the same side no matter what. But, I have always thought of my kids first... and never had another man directing me. ST swears to me there is no other reason but to he hurtful and spiteful... again idk.

another rumor.... cuz I wasnt there, but I believe it..because of the way they treated ST when I was there....

Funeral home has refused to give ST a copy of death certificate and has stated that DT did not put his name on it as father....
is this even legal? I am sure his attny will sort it out... but til then it just gets worse.

GRRRRRRR... just seems petty and vindictive.. i dont get it.

Tainted Angel
11-11-2009, 12:43 AM
I don't think that DT would have any say so on what is entered in on a death certificate. Aren't those filled out by the medical examiner upon completion of the autopsy? If ST was listed on her birth certificate and that information is in vital records, I would think that is where they obtained the information entered on the death certificate.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 12:44 AM
SADNPOD
Maybe the media has him in the camera lense! at the funeral.........wouldn't hurt to contact media and ask!
Go to local media and ask under 'contact us' or a blog!

Wearing a T shirt and tight jeans seems disrespectful.........and being shoved out of mom's car..........
why would he even try to be with DT?
Only her family and children woud be in that car......she must know him......
haven't finished reading the thread so sorry if this is already speculated but maybe he was someone with the media trying to get a scoop. maybe whatever he said trying to get into DT's car didn't fly, and then he approaches ST who is just trying to grieve for his daughter and probably very appreciative of anyone who is kind to him (doesn't sound like many were) and ST falls for "chris's" story. Uncle realizes no one knows the guy and goes ballistic??
just my initial thought upon reading this.

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:45 AM
Wow - that is totally different than "It was a case of mistaken identity"

So CWG was really a friend of PC? He had to have been there then - to end up on the report.

You know - we do not really know how long DT and SP have been friends do we?

Could SP really be PC's friend more than mom's. And if so - then would he also be friends with CWG?

If you say mom's behavior sort of changed lately - possibly due to influence from PC - maybe there is some sort of wierd control issue going on there.

I need to think on this for a bit.

NO matter why or who these men are... there are too many unrelated men in these childrens lives....imo... this in itself is dangerous for young kids.. and for even one to be RSO?????? I also found out that PC and DT have been together a long time... 3-4 yrs. so they all got along the first two... ST has been here to visit kids approx 2 yrs ago according to LH. DT let fam have phone contact til a month before she was missing... last time ST's mom spoke to somer. all of this is bizarre. She is also DT so initials would be too confusing. She says somer told her the last time they spoke to tell her daddy to come and get her...NOW... she told me this today when she was angry for what PC told her when she called to speak with her grandkids. HOnestly... I dont know.... all heresay and rumors I guess... I wish I had the third side to this story.

Chili Fries
11-11-2009, 12:48 AM
also, does anyone know if people were arrested at DT's house day before somer was missing? I saw this too on HLN, bu they stated that the address was wrong, that LE had that address in their head and it was entered wrong. This doesnt make sense especially if it was the day before... why would that address be in their heads then?
I am not gonna sleep again to nite, am I... and I havent packed a thing!
It was after Somer went missing. It was a mistake by LE, they went back and changed the address on the arrest log later.

Also, on the original incident report some of the names most likely come from people interviewed along Somer's route from school to home, probably from the park.

amysmom
11-11-2009, 12:51 AM
I think until we know more of where she was left... and cod... its speculation only... my money is still on WLK....

bbm

I would demand to know cod of MY child at this point..ST cant possibly be poi so I dont see the harm in telling him..Why would he compromise investigation by repeating it to anyone who may leak it? DT, oth, needs to be kept out of the loop for many reasons but none that include her being poi.

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:54 AM
haven't finished reading the thread so sorry if this is already speculated but maybe he was someone with the media trying to get a scoop. maybe whatever he said trying to get into DT's car didn't fly, and then he approaches ST who is just trying to grieve for his daughter and probably very appreciative of anyone who is kind to him (doesn't sound like many were) and ST falls for "chris's" story. Uncle realizes no one knows the guy and goes ballistic??
just my initial thought upon reading this.

You are right on in the St part of the situation... but if that was undercover dressing.. it was really good. The wrangler jeans were obvious favorites,,, they were really tight and snug/worn if ya know what i mean... and not (imo) a good way. I dont think it was media because ST was accessible to them. They really didnt bother him much. I thought at the time that the uncle just didnt know he was a friend of DT's and assumed he was a friend of ours..

human
11-11-2009, 12:56 AM
I'd call him a predator. How arrogant and assuming!!!! Those poor girls. He's already wrecked at least 3 young lives.
This boy is a time bomb.

I wish someone that is local could investigate him. His middle initial is"K" and it is listed in USearch site that he has had 3 Orange Park addresses.

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 12:56 AM
I don't think that DT would have any say so on what is entered in on a death certificate. Aren't those filled out by the medical examiner upon completion of the autopsy? If ST was listed on her birth certificate and that information is in vital records, I would think that is where they obtained the information entered on the death certificate.
When my father died recently, we, my sister and I filled out the death certificate form and it was sent off with the certified death certificate ready in a few days... but they got all the info from us.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 12:59 AM
They were never together in florida... friends in common were in nc, so no connects in jax, unless I can find friends of my own here that knew them... so far, none in common. PC told ST's mother for none of us to contact them.. to go thru her attorney...

PC doesn't have any business telling somer's grandmother to go through an attorney. Grrrrrrr!

txsvicki
11-11-2009, 12:59 AM
NO matter why or who these men are... there are too many unrelated men in these childrens lives....imo... this in itself is dangerous for young kids.. and for even one to be RSO?????? I also found out that PC and DT have been together a long time... 3-4 yrs. so they all got along the first two... ST has been here to visit kids approx 2 yrs ago according to LH. DT let fam have phone contact til a month before she was missing... last time ST's mom spoke to somer. all of this is bizarre. She is also DT so initials would be too confusing. She says somer told her the last time they spoke to tell her daddy to come and get her...NOW... she told me this today when she was angry for what PC told her when she called to speak with her grandkids. HOnestly... I dont know.... all heresay and rumors I guess... I wish I had the third side to this story.


I've been reading all evening and must have missed what PC told the grandma who called. Was this and D.T.'s change in behavior mentioned earlier today way back in the thread?
Edite: Oops, I read a post wrong. You just said that. Maybe she should contact LE about Somer wanting to be picked up NOW.

sorrell skye
11-11-2009, 01:02 AM
I would like to comment on ST's comment about the soot. I asked where that comment came from... he stated it was said to him by someone who I dont find to be a very good source. That LE told her that and I dont believe it. Again, only my opinion. They have been so tightlipped that I cannot imagine them telling her that. Unless there is something else to back this up, I wouldnt waste time on it.

sadnpod - I would like to extend my condolences to you and your family, and especially to ST (I hate using initials!) during this very sad and tragic time. Please convey to him that there are folks out here who care and want to assist in bringing little Somer's killer to justice.

I would also like to welcome you to WS. I just wish it could have been under less personally tragic circumstances.

Thank you for being willing to share another side of this awful story. I know it can't be easy for you. Just know that you have friends here at WS.

Thank you, also, for the info on the mysterious soot. When I first heard it reported by the media, I was taken aback, since LE seemed to be keeping such a tight lid on any and all evidence. I was skeptical regarding the veracity of the info, and couldn't imagine where it had come from. You have confirmed my doubts that it wasn't reliable info.

sadnpod
11-11-2009, 01:09 AM
I just want justice for somer and all our children to be safe,,,, like all of you. Thank u for welcoming me and I will pass on the compassion I have found here to sammy and family... I know it will be appreciated. Again thank you all. good nite

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 01:12 AM
About CWG, I think he has been located in TX or TN?? He was listed absconded and then in a days time not listed as absconded. I hope I have this correct. Someone jump in if I've screwed this up.
Maybe he was a friend of PC, and immediately when Somer goes missing PC thinks of him, not realizing he's left the state, gives officer his name (officer can look up addy and other info on SO registry) and then when officer goes to question him, he finds all this info is not accurate and then they list him as absconded??
I don't know, but hearing he may have been a friend makes more sense then the random guy on the street. I couldn't figure out how the officer got the name if CWG wasn't actually there. Although at some point the pr officer (forgot her name) released a statement about CWG being an error. It makes sense if PC named him not realizing he had moved??

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 01:38 AM
I feel a bit like a ping pong ball. I've been reading to catch up and I got sidetracked
With Infinity coming on with her vision, and looking through photos for the guy in her vision.
then sadnpod coming on talking about "chris" and looking for photos of him

wouldn't it be something if sadnpod's chris is infinity's vision guy.

i can't remember what I was researching or even where i was prior to these two events tonight, so I am calling it a night.

OT: i am still fuming over this Taylor guy, think that's his name, the LE connected (cannot type what I'd like to call him) This guy needs to be watched--closely. It seems he leaves a wake of destruction. He is a ticking time bomb --who may have already exploded.

sorrell skye
11-11-2009, 01:44 AM
About CWG, I think he has been located in TX or TN?? He was listed absconded and then in a days time not listed as absconded. I hope I have this correct. Someone jump in if I've screwed this up.
Maybe he was a friend of PC, and immediately when Somer goes missing PC thinks of him, not realizing he's left the state, gives officer his name (officer can look up addy and other info on SO registry) and then when officer goes to question him, he finds all this info is not accurate and then they list him as absconded??
I don't know, but hearing he may have been a friend makes more sense then the random guy on the street. I couldn't figure out how the officer got the name if CWG wasn't actually there. Although at some point the pr officer (forgot her name) released a statement about CWG being an error. It makes sense if PC named him not realizing he had moved??

But the one thing that still hasn't been explained to my satisfaction about CWG being on the police report is that later, when it was finally addressed by LE, they claimed it was simply a case of mistaken identity. I take that to mean CWG was ID'd by someone who thought they saw him, but were mistaken, not that he was no longer in the area.

BTW, he was located, I believe, in TX. But I'm not sure. Has he reported his whereabouts to the Sheriff in TX, and has he been confirmed to be in TX, or is it just more smoke and mirrors?

Chili Fries
11-11-2009, 01:49 AM
I wish someone that is local could investigate him. His middle initial is"K" and it is listed in USearch site that he has had 3 Orange Park addresses.
The only listing in the White Pages I could find that matched a city where he has lived is in Green Cove Springs FL, about 13 miles south of Orange Park. That may be him.

MommaD
11-11-2009, 07:56 AM
The only listing in the White Pages I could find that matched a city where he has lived is in Green Cove Springs FL, about 13 miles south of Orange Park. That may be him.



I found this .. and it is stating middle name as Keith...

http://www.claytoday.biz/content/894_1.php



Son of former Clay sheriff candidate arrested
Greg Walsh | March 20, 2009 | 4 Comments



ORANGE PARK – A Fleming Island man who became part of his father’s 2008 campaign for Clay County sheriff when he was accused of sexually assaulting three high school girls was arrested on an aggravated battery charge earlier this month.

Adam Keith Taylor, the 19-year-old son of Republican sheriff candidate Mike Taylor, faces a felony charge accusing him of beating a man during a confrontation at an Orange Park apartment complex March 9, according to a Clay County Sheriff’s Office arrest report. He remains free on $7,500 bond pending an April 1 arraignment before Chief Judge William A. Wilkes, according to Court Clerk records.


Hope this helps...


ETA: lol sorry but thought this part was funny.. had to post it too.. must have fallen on hard times.. No money..hmmm

info from same article as link above..

A phone number listed for Adam Taylor, of Green Spring Circle, was not a working number. He is being represented by the Public Defender’s Office.

Mike Taylor could not be reached for comment.

human
11-11-2009, 08:31 AM
I found this .. and it is stating middle name as Keith...

http://www.claytoday.biz/content/894_1.php



Son of former Clay sheriff candidate arrested
Greg Walsh | March 20, 2009 | 4 Comments



ORANGE PARK – A Fleming Island man who became part of his father’s 2008 campaign for Clay County sheriff when he was accused of sexually assaulting three high school girls was arrested on an aggravated battery charge earlier this month.

Adam Keith Taylor, the 19-year-old son of Republican sheriff candidate Mike Taylor, faces a felony charge accusing him of beating a man during a confrontation at an Orange Park apartment complex March 9, according to a Clay County Sheriff’s Office arrest report. He remains free on $7,500 bond pending an April 1 arraignment before Chief Judge William A. Wilkes, according to Court Clerk records.


Hope this helps...


ETA: lol sorry but thought this part was funny.. had to post it too.. must have fallen on hard times.. No money..hmmm

info from same article as link above..

A phone number listed for Adam Taylor, of Green Spring Circle, was not a working number. He is being represented by the Public Defender’s Office.

Mike Taylor could not be reached for comment.

Yup, this is the guy . I really want to know if he could have been by Somer. A lot of people have cell phones only so no telephone listing. Any chance that he was working as a construction worker or lawn care service? This guy continues to offend.

MommaD
11-11-2009, 08:36 AM
Can u please tell me which videos this person is in? Honestly there were several kinda creepy people that came thru line. But one individual, I have been looking for and maybe this is him. Pls help me figure out who you are talking about and I will go into further details after I look at him.

Thanks... also I only know a first name... no last.. am I allowed to just post the first name?


I am so sorry. I searched for video's last night and couldn't find not a one, and we all on this board know there are many.. I was just so tired could not think. I am sorry..

I found some video's for you to look at. the guy in question with yelllow shirt is in the one titled ---- its almost at bottom of page shows dt in group of people at night.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/search/videosearch.aspx?search=somer+thompson+


Search for Somer 10/22/09

all these video's are nice to rewatch. lot of good info on the fdle lab..

DT went on the motorcycle fund raiser too .. I didn't know that. the first video shows the ride.. she messes up her speeches when they aren't planned... I have noticed..

she said Thank you for coming out smok- -- then says coming out to support me and my our angel..

pinamia
11-11-2009, 08:49 AM
NO matter why or who these men are... there are too many unrelated men in these childrens lives....imo... this in itself is dangerous for young kids.. and for even one to be RSO?????? I also found out that PC and DT have been together a long time... 3-4 yrs. so they all got along the first two... ST has been here to visit kids approx 2 yrs ago according to LH. DT let fam have phone contact til a month before she was missing... last time ST's mom spoke to somer. all of this is bizarre. She is also DT so initials would be too confusing. She says somer told her the last time they spoke to tell her daddy to come and get her...NOW... she told me this today when she was angry for what PC told her when she called to speak with her grandkids. HOnestly... I dont know.... all heresay and rumors I guess... I wish I had the third side to this story.

Now I'm convinced it was PC that did it. That BAS TARD. He was jealous of SP being in the house. Definitely him.Somer was telling her dad to get her. She was in DANGER. Why didn't he????? I would have moved the earth to get there. Poor little Somer.

MommaD
11-11-2009, 09:07 AM
Now I'm convinced it was PC that did it. That BAS TARD. He was jealous of SP being in the house. Definitely him.Somer was telling her dad to get her. She was in DANGER. Why didn't he????? I would have moved the earth to get there. Poor little Somer.


Some times to MOVE the earth is harder done than said.. just saying ..

paris_paris
11-11-2009, 09:09 AM
ST was very upset when I told him this person was registered as a SO. He then called LE and told me that they told him this person was friend of PC and not a person of interest.

I thought this statement meant that CWG was listed on the report, and later it was realized that there was a friend of PC who was not CWG but somebody else. I don't know who mistook him for CWG, or why the friend's real name was not added later.

There was talk (rumour) about the police report being changed because of inconsistencies. My guess is PC saying "Hey, this CWG guy listed was not here, but my buddy was here and he wasn't listed. Somebody made a mistake". Something like that is my impression. I believe CWG was in Texas all along. (My own belief only).

sadnpod, you mentioned the rumour of WLK's daughter being Diena's friend... there was a Stefani with the same last name on Diena's MySpace. After Somer went missing, she was removed as a friend. Stefani is not WLK's daughter, and I don't think anyone has been able to make a connection of her being related to him. (I've tried very hard).

MommaD
11-11-2009, 09:18 AM
I thought this statement meant that CWG was listed on the report, and later it was realized that there was a friend of PC who was not CWG but somebody else. I don't know who mistook him for CWG, or why the friend's real name was not added later.

There was talk (rumour) about the police report being changed because of inconsistencies. My guess is PC saying "Hey, this CWG guy listed was not here, but my buddy was here and he wasn't listed. Somebody made a mistake". Something like that is my impression. I believe CWG was in Texas all along. (My own belief only).

sadnpod, you mentioned the rumour of WLK's daughter being Diena's friend... there was a Stefani with the same last name on Diena's MySpace. After Somer went missing, she was removed as a friend. Stefani is not WLK's daughter, and I don't think anyone has been able to make a connection of her being related to him. (I've tried very hard).



Paris Paris .... sure is hinky though huh?? did you find Stefani place of employment?? could she be more friends with dt sister.. seems closer to her age.. and maybe sister and s and dt visited a lot ?? wonder if wlk dad was married before he was born and had other kids by a different woman?? have you checked that ?? I just thought that..

could be like a distant half relative to him.. lol that family who knows..

human
11-11-2009, 09:34 AM
Interesting about Somer wanting to have Dad come and get her now. PC certainly is controlling. That puts up huge red flags. But DT seems to have led quite an active social life to me. Lots of partying. Doesn't quite fit in with a control freak who is abusive, or does it? Don't know.

I would still like to know about the AKT. He was quite a stud in high school. Super cool. Now he has really gone down the tubes. Probably can't get all the babes like he used to.

Sounds from the reports of his behavior that he is pretty narcisstic. Fits in with a person who might become interested in children.

pinamia
11-11-2009, 09:44 AM
Interesting about Somer wanting to have Dad come and get her now. PC certainly is controlling. That puts up huge red flags. But DT seems to have led quite an active social life to me. Lots of partying. Doesn't quite fit in with a control freak who is abusive, or does it? Don't know.

I would still like to know about the AKT. He was quite a stud in high school. Super cool. Now he has really gone down the tubes. Probably can't get all the babes like he used to.

Sounds from the reports of his behavior that he is pretty narcisstic. Fits in with a person who might become interested in children.

All they have to do is question him and check his car. Take some DNA etc. I'm sure his dad is protecting him as usual. Of course, all these theories make sense.
But PC is some kind of monster and as I always said SP is number one suspect and his friend, PC is a very close second. A sad girl wouldn't go with AKT. She would go with someone she had to go with most likely PC.

amysmom
11-11-2009, 09:51 AM
ETA: lol sorry but thought this part was funny.. had to post it too.. must have fallen on hard times.. No money..hmmm

info from same article as link above..

A phone number listed for Adam Taylor, of Green Spring Circle, was not a working number. He is being represented by the Public Defender’s Office.

Mike Taylor could not be reached for comment.

I hope this means Daddy-O cut ties with his psycho-perverted son..Now the election is over (2008?) & he lost maybe they will re-open these cases? It is a crime the victims got no justice!!!!!!!!

shadowizar
11-11-2009, 09:55 AM
Does anyone have a full video of the funeral? The psychic I spoke with believes the perp was actually there and I'm still following up on his "vision". It's a long shot but willing to follow up on anything atm.

Also I am going to hit up this nursing home and take some pictures for one of our fellow sleuths this weekend. If anyone else wants a picture of something related please let me know and I'll do my best to get it.

amysmom
11-11-2009, 10:06 AM
sadnpod, you mentioned the rumour of WLK's daughter being Diena's friend... there was a Stefani with the same last name on Diena's MySpace. After Somer went missing, she was removed as a friend. Stefani is not WLK's daughter, and I don't think anyone has been able to make a connection of her being related to him. (I've tried very hard).

s&bbm

Why remove name? I take it either one can do it so who did? It does make a diff!

pinamia
11-11-2009, 10:07 AM
Does anyone have a full video of the funeral? The psychic I spoke with believes the perp was actually there and I'm still following up on his "vision". It's a long shot but willing to follow up on anything atm.

Also I am going to hit up this nursing home and take some pictures for one of our fellow sleuths this weekend. If anyone else wants a picture of something related please let me know and I'll do my best to get it.

What we really need is photos of cars that PC, SP and other possible suspects and neighbors? The psychic here said a car with tan leather etc. Maybe your psychic could look at the photos of cars and id the car. I truly believe Somer was transported in a vehicle.

Some other thing that should have been used was a dog for Somer's scent. Perhaps it could go to dumpsters. I'm surprise we haven't found out where exactly Somer was thrown.


http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/fl-somer-funeral-arriva/2855396510

MommaD
11-11-2009, 10:33 AM
Please if and when Sadnpod comes back , someone make sure she sees this video.. a man with dark hair and t-shirt and jeans in the video at funeral. has back to camera tho. no face..

Also, could someone post wlk's profile pic of reg. offender before the hair cut.. please..

from the back of this person on video looks like it could be wlk.. jmo tho

must click on gold color circle and another screen pops up to play the video..


http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/fl-somer-funeral-arriva/2855396510



ETA: It also shows the bf or dh of DT's sister .. that we believe he is her bf or dh.. he has purple shirt on. is last one in the group..tailing behind..

Please someone post a pic of wlk before haircut this last arrest .. tia so much..

pinamia
11-11-2009, 11:14 AM
I came across a strange video.

YouTube- me: brain damage 1/5

gypsyblue
11-11-2009, 11:22 AM
Please if and when Sadnpod comes back , someone make sure she sees this video.. a man with dark hair and t-shirt and jeans in the video at funeral. has back to camera tho. no face..

Also, could someone post wlk's profile pic of reg. offender before the hair cut.. please..

from the back of this person on video looks like it could be wlk.. jmo tho

must click on gold color circle and another screen pops up to play the video..


http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/fl-somer-funeral-arriva/2855396510



ETA: It also shows the bf or dh of DT's sister .. that we believe he is her bf or dh.. he has purple shirt on. is last one in the group..tailing behind..

Please someone post a pic of wlk before haircut this last arrest .. tia so much..Hey momma....can you put a time mark as I cannot find anyone with tight jeans on.......tyia

human
11-11-2009, 11:32 AM
I came across a strange video.

YouTube- me: brain damage 1/5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3yGlG9F1Zw&feature=PlayList&p=8BBF60D2FC90CA14&index=6)


OMG!!!!!! I don't have sound at work. Please send this info to some authorities right now!!!!!!!Make sure it's someone that will respondand not just file it away somewhere. OMG!!!!!

paris_paris
11-11-2009, 11:59 AM
OMG!!!!!! I don't have sound at work. Please send this info to some authorities right now!!!!!!!Make sure it's someone that will respondand not just file it away somewhere. OMG!!!!!

I didn't watch the whole thing. Did I miss something?

lurkeyloo
11-11-2009, 12:02 PM
I'm going back to watch the rest. Thinking I missed something too.

ETA: it looks like that is only one of five videos.

gypsyblue
11-11-2009, 12:07 PM
Human....I guess Ill be the one to tell you that this utube is a documentary show not some whacko piecing together wierd clips of murder and evil.....I can see where you thought that with no sound nor with any explanation from the poster.........

human
11-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Human....I guess Ill be the one to tell you that this utube is a documentary show not some whacko piecing together wierd clips of murder and evil.....I can see where you thought that with no sound nor with any explanation from the poster.........


Thanks. I thought it was a whacko doing it!!!

Beatrice
11-11-2009, 12:24 PM
Please if and when Sadnpod comes back , someone make sure she sees this video.. a man with dark hair and t-shirt and jeans in the video at funeral. has back to camera tho. no face..

Also, could someone post wlk's profile pic of reg. offender before the hair cut.. please..

from the back of this person on video looks like it could be wlk.. jmo tho

must click on gold color circle and another screen pops up to play the video..


http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/fl-somer-funeral-arriva/2855396510



ETA: It also shows the bf or dh of DT's sister .. that we believe he is her bf or dh.. he has purple shirt on. is last one in the group..tailing behind..

Please someone post a pic of wlk before haircut this last arrest .. tia so much..

Without reading your entire post....
Looked at video & man in purple shirt stood out to me.

mycroft
11-11-2009, 12:30 PM
Hey momma....can you put a time mark as I cannot find anyone with tight jeans on.......tyia

Please do. I don't see the person either. There are five small windows and the large one. Can you give a time mark and indicate which segment of the video?

I only notice two, maybe three, people who appear to be in jeans. The tightest jeans guy is in the opening frame, and he appears to be observing rather than participating. Then towards the end a guy in what looks like a relaxed fit jean and baseball cap walks past the camera. He almost looks like he could be press or an observer. Is the father anywhere in the video? I don't see him.

No disrespect to the grieving, but some of these people have a strange idea of what constitutes appropriate funeral attire. I wonder what occasion some of those guys are saving their suits for? At least iron your shirt and find a neat pair of slacks!

I think the mystery man (and I can't find him here) could be a tabloid reporter. He may be poorly dressed because he didn't intend to get into the family's area, and somehow just found an opportunity once he arrived at the service.

MommaD
11-11-2009, 01:12 PM
Hey momma....can you put a time mark as I cannot find anyone with tight jeans on.......tyia


mycroft explained it pretty good. it is open frame freeze.. he is in left side corner.. its the bigger frame..

he is standing with people all dressed up .. I don't get that.. men in suits and lady in dress..


Mycroft I agree with the attire at funeral..

MommaD
11-11-2009, 01:15 PM
Without reading your entire post....
Looked at video & man in purple shirt stood out to me.



stood out to you how Beatrice?? could you explain a little more please?? why he stood out etc. ??

pinamia
11-11-2009, 01:23 PM
Thanks. I thought it was a whacko doing it!!!


Here's the list of his videos. They are pretty weird. Even Jon Benet. It seems this person is more obsessed than us. He's from the Philippines. I just signed up for his channel. Thinking maybe I'll learn something. It's weird when I was looking for videos on Somer, I found it. I think perhaps Somer's killer has a brain tumor or frontal lobe problems. It could be the deaf kid that was videotaping buses in the area. Perhaps John Walsh is right about the serial killer angle.


http://www.youtube.com/user/beng3768

Isabelle
11-11-2009, 01:26 PM
I don't think there is anything cute or fashionable about a 7 year old carrying a book bag, or anything else that has a skull and crossbones design. I don't think it is right for them to be wearing anything with that design either. Doesn't matter if it is the "in" thing. If my granddaughter came to my home with something like that, I would cut a "new one" on my daughter and then take gd to buy more appropriate bag or whatever.

If my daughters, who are now 40 and 42 came to my home wearing anything with that motif, they can be sure I would comment and they would know it wouldn't be very nice.

Call me old, but skull and crossbones has always meant grave danger to the point of death.

Sick that Somer's mom let her have these types of designs on her belongings.

momtective
11-11-2009, 01:31 PM
This guy in purple shirt? The guy in front of his to his left is the one that bugs me...he's been in many videos, hanging posters, with reporter, etc.
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/funeral-1.jpg

This is the guy that's really bugging me...who is he?
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/unknownman.png

pinamia
11-11-2009, 01:45 PM
This guy in purple shirt? The guy in front of his to his left is the one that bugs me...he's been in many videos, hanging posters, with reporter, etc.
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/funeral-1.jpg

This is the guy that's really bugging me...who is he?
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/unknownman.png

He's R. O'C--n, a neighbor of DT.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=somer+thompson%27s+neighbors&docid=1364412923915&mid=172F63F0859C1F5C8B3F172F63F0859C1F5C8B3F&FORM=LKVR

Anothermom
11-11-2009, 01:49 PM
I didn't watch the whole thing. Did I miss something?

He has got a compilation of many, many videos. It says he is from the Phillipines. They are all murder type stuff...Jon Benet, 48 Hrs, Me channel, etc...I think those five shows are actually a series on the Me channel. He's just downloading them.

mycroft
11-11-2009, 01:56 PM
This guy in purple shirt? The guy in front of his to his left is the one that bugs me...he's been in many videos, hanging posters, with reporter, etc.
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/funeral-1.jpg

This is the guy that's really bugging me...who is he?
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/keinshatten/unknownman.png

I think that the man in the lower video is either the man in the white button-down shirt and brown pants (most likely I think) or the man in the gray shirt and pony tail. It's hard to see how long his hair is in the baseball cap.


ETA: And I believe that the guy in the un-tucked purple button-down looks like the guy in one of the stand-up interviews that was identified as an in-law on the mother's side, or at least that was the speculation as to his identity. He looks like the same guy to me, in what little we see of him.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 01:57 PM
I found this .. and it is stating middle name as Keith...

http://www.claytoday.biz/content/894_1.php



Son of former Clay sheriff candidate arrested
Greg Walsh | March 20, 2009 | 4 Comments



ORANGE PARK – A Fleming Island man who became part of his father’s 2008 campaign for Clay County sheriff when he was accused of sexually assaulting three high school girls was arrested on an aggravated battery charge earlier this month.

Adam Keith Taylor, the 19-year-old son of Republican sheriff candidate Mike Taylor, faces a felony charge accusing him of beating a man during a confrontation at an Orange Park apartment complex March 9, according to a Clay County Sheriff’s Office arrest report. He remains free on $7,500 bond pending an April 1 arraignment before Chief Judge William A. Wilkes, according to Court Clerk records.


Hope this helps...


ETA: lol sorry but thought this part was funny.. had to post it too.. must have fallen on hard times.. No money..hmmm

info from same article as link above..

A phone number listed for Adam Taylor, of Green Spring Circle, was not a working number. He is being represented by the Public Defender’s Office.

Mike Taylor could not be reached for comment.

if he is being represented by the PD's office it doesn't appear his daddy is standing behind him now. Finally some charges that made it. I can't believe he wasn't charged for his crimes against those girls. this guy is Trouble, that's right, with a capital T.

Anothermom
11-11-2009, 01:57 PM
I thought at first he was saying ME, Brain damaged...as in himself. When I watched the videos, I remember seeing them before, or parts of them before. I remember reading or seeing someone on a show talking about his brain injury, and that after the brain injury, he had no empathy or feelings of love or sadness or anything. He wanted his wife to leave him because he didn't think it was fair to her or their children...he said he had absolutely no feelings for them one way or the other...and then after that, I remember seeing parts of this show. So I don't know if that was a series or something or what.

pinamia
11-11-2009, 02:05 PM
I thought at first he was saying ME, Brain damaged...as in himself. When I watched the videos, I remember seeing them before, or parts of them before. I remember reading or seeing someone on a show talking about his brain injury, and that after the brain injury, he had no empathy or feelings of love or sadness or anything. He wanted his wife to leave him because he didn't think it was fair to her or their children...he said he had absolutely no feelings for them one way or the other...and then after that, I remember seeing parts of this show. So I don't know if that was a series or something or what.

Strange angle that it could be someone with brain damage. But considering alcohol and drugs can do the same thing, it isn't that helpful. But just a thought. I wonder if PC does drugs.

Cheewawa007
11-11-2009, 02:16 PM
I'm wondering about the vision of the brown haired, all american boy. Didn't the poster say she was going to try and communicate with Somer this morning? Does she realize I'm about to wear my refresh button out on my computer waiting???:waitasec:
I have a vision she (the poster from last night) won't be posting today.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 02:17 PM
Strange angle that it could be someone with brain damage. But considering alcohol and drugs can do the same thing, it isn't that helpful. But just a thought. I wonder if PC does drugs.

i thought the series is saying 3 factors-when combined- can make a serial killer.

-brain damage
-mental illness
-abuse

maybe I'll go back and watch the other videos.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Here's my take on the funeral attire and our perp.
It is my opinion that our perp is still in that area and hiding in plain sight.
I think he/she is good at blending into his surroundings.
I think he/she has been in the area a while, a fixture so to speak.
I think he/she is an average person that you do not look twice at, nothing about them stands out.
I think it's the only way this crime could have been carried out in broad daylight, in a populated neighborhood when 3 schools were letting out.

That being said, I think if they were at the funeral, they most likely blended right in. They probably were not the one wearing jeans, to make someone say hmmm check them out kinda weird huh.

I do believe they have inserted themselves in this case, or this family's life (if not already there) somehow. And I also think they most likely attended all vigils and the funeral.
Unless this was an accident (which i do not believe it was) this person is a sick individual who more than likely gets off reliving details, and seeing/being in the midst of the grief they caused.

I could be waaaaay off base here but these are my thoughts on what kind of person did this to an innocent little girl in the middle of the day on her walk home from school.

pinamia
11-11-2009, 02:36 PM
i thought the series is saying 3 factors-when combined- can make a serial killer.

-brain damage
-mental illness
-abuse

maybe I'll go back and watch the other videos.

I bet you any of the three can do it. But of course if combined it would be even more likely. Remember Jeffrey Dahmer never was abused according to his parents but he did abuse alcohol.

sorrell skye
11-11-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm seeing two men in a purple shirt.

One, at the beginning of the video, who is with the family (at the back of the family group). He is the same young man in the yellow polo shirt in the candlelight vigil pics.

The other man in a purple shirt (short sleeves, not tucked in) is toward the end of the video. He's short, older.

Which man in a purple shirt is the one in question? Thx!

pinamia
11-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Here's my take on the funeral attire and our perp.
It is my opinion that our perp is still in that area and hiding in plain sight.
I think he/she is good at blending into his surroundings.
I think he/she has been in the area a while, a fixture so to speak.
I think he/she is an average person that you do not look twice at, nothing about them stands out.
I think it's the only way this crime could have been carried out in broad daylight, in a populated neighborhood when 3 schools were letting out.

That being said, I think if they were at the funeral, they most likely blended right in. They probably were not the one wearing jeans, to make someone say hmmm check them out kinda weird huh.

I do believe they have inserted themselves in this case, or this family's life (if not already there) somehow. And I also think they most likely attended all vigils and the funeral.
Unless this was an accident (which i do not believe it was) this person is a sick individual who more than likely gets off reliving details, and seeing/being in the midst of the grief they caused.

I could be waaaaay off base here but these are my thoughts on what kind of person did this to an innocent little girl in the middle of the day on her walk home from school.

SP and PC were both in the middle. In fact, SP set up a donation account for the family. You can't be more in the middle than that.

Sailor Bug
11-11-2009, 02:44 PM
I thought at first he was saying ME, Brain damaged...as in himself. When I watched the videos, I remember seeing them before, or parts of them before. I remember reading or seeing someone on a show talking about his brain injury, and that after the brain injury, he had no empathy or feelings of love or sadness or anything. He wanted his wife to leave him because he didn't think it was fair to her or their children...he said he had absolutely no feelings for them one way or the other...and then after that, I remember seeing parts of this show. So I don't know if that was a series or something or what.

Yes, the video is part of a TV show on A&E

Cheewawa007
11-11-2009, 02:58 PM
Sailor Bug, I love your avatar!!!!

dannyodie
11-11-2009, 03:00 PM
SP and PC were both in the middle. In fact, SP set up a donation account for the family. You can't be more in the middle than that.

and thats a very good line of insite too, I personally wouldn't even rule out a member of le either. who was it that came up with the idea of searching the landfill? yep a le official... talk about being in the spot light.. some of us don't want to think of le official as being capable of doing something like this, but in my opinion a child would hop right into a sheriff car in a second, especially since the neighborhood already had some odd things going on with someone trying to lure another girl into a car shortly before somers abduction. if it was a deputy, on second shift umm like a 3 to 11 shift then caring a body in a trunk till the shift is over wouldn't be un heard of, then dump the body in a dumpster prior to the shift ending, heck who would really pay attention to a sheriff deputy lurking around a dumpster site especially after a child went missing? its all a shot in the dark for me but its a plausable senario to be and jmho....

Sailor Bug
11-11-2009, 03:03 PM
Sailor Bug, I love your avatar!!!!

Awwww Thanx Cheewawa007

I'm loving that lil Cheewawa avatar of yours too lol

Sure hope there's a break in this case soon

pinamia
11-11-2009, 03:06 PM
and thats a very good line of insite too, I personally wouldn't even rule out a member of le either. who was it that came up with the idea of searching the landfill? yep a le official... talk about being in the spot light.. some of us don't want to think of le official as being capable of doing something like this, but in my opinion a child would hop right into a sheriff car in a second, especially since the neighborhood already had some odd things going on with someone trying to lure another girl into a car shortly before somers abduction. if it was a deputy, on second shift umm like a 3 to 11 shift then caring a body in a trunk till the shift is over wouldn't be un heard of, then dump the body in a dumpster prior to the shift ending, heck who would really pay attention to a sheriff deputy lurking around a dumpster site especially after a child went missing? its all a shot in the dark for me but its a plausable senario to be and jmho....

I wish there was some videos. I know cruisers in NY have video. I think this case has to break. Unless I'll go crazy.

lillygator
11-11-2009, 03:15 PM
I don't think there is anything cute or fashionable about a 7 year old carrying a book bag, or anything else that has a skull and crossbones design. I don't think it is right for them to be wearing anything with that design either. Doesn't matter if it is the "in" thing. If my granddaughter came to my home with something like that, I would cut a "new one" on my daughter and then take gd to buy more appropriate bag or whatever.

If my daughters, who are now 40 and 42 came to my home wearing anything with that motif, they can be sure I would comment and they would know it wouldn't be very nice.

Call me old, but skull and crossbones has always meant grave danger to the point of death.

Sick that Somer's mom let her have these types of designs on her belongings.

seriously??

pirates are a huge thing now...including the skull and crossbones. Disney cruise line even has pirate night on the ship and teh bandanas they give out are skull and cbones....lots of pink things for girls too....I have no issues with my girls who are 7 and 4 wearing anything like that. so I think it is pretty darn judgemental and rude to say that her mom is "sick" to let her have those types of designs.

Cheewawa007
11-11-2009, 03:17 PM
I hate to keep going back to the infinity poster from last night, but...........she mentioned the young man wearing a green shirt that looked too old for his age. What if it is a uniform shirt? Doesn't some major restaurant chain have their employees wear a green collared button shirt? Gawd I hope something happens soon - another clue would be nice. With FBI agents working with the Clay County police, you would think they have some type of evidence they are analyzing. Mary Justino, if you are reading, we could really use an update and a few more facts. You're only helping to escalate the rumors by not addressing them at all!

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 03:32 PM
and thats a very good line of insite too, I personally wouldn't even rule out a member of le either. who was it that came up with the idea of searching the landfill? yep a le official... talk about being in the spot light.. some of us don't want to think of le official as being capable of doing something like this, but in my opinion a child would hop right into a sheriff car in a second, especially since the neighborhood already had some odd things going on with someone trying to lure another girl into a car shortly before somers abduction. if it was a deputy, on second shift umm like a 3 to 11 shift then caring a body in a trunk till the shift is over wouldn't be un heard of, then dump the body in a dumpster prior to the shift ending, heck who would really pay attention to a sheriff deputy lurking around a dumpster site especially after a child went missing? its all a shot in the dark for me but its a plausable senario to be and jmho....

when i read some comments under a news article in the beginning of this case, someone from the neighborhood commented that it wasn't unusual to see 2 or 3 police cars parked along the route Somer took home from school.
Talk about hiding in plain sight, yikes.

Cheewawa007
11-11-2009, 03:41 PM
when i read some comments under a news article in the beginning of this case, someone from the neighborhood commented that it wasn't unusual to see 2 or 3 police cars parked along the route Somer took home from school.
Talk about hiding in plain sight, yikes.
Did the comments say if this was before she came up missing, or after (2 or 3 police cars parked along the route she took home from school)?

pinamia
11-11-2009, 03:43 PM
I hate to keep going back to the infinity poster from last night, but...........she mentioned the young man wearing a green shirt that looked too old for his age. What if it is a uniform shirt? Doesn't some major restaurant chain have their employees wear a green collared button shirt? Gawd I hope something happens soon - another clue would be nice. With FBI agents working with the Clay County police, you would think they have some type of evidence they are analyzing. Mary Justino, if you are reading, we could really use an update and a few more facts. You're only helping to escalate the rumors by not addressing them at all!

That's a great thought. If we look at businesses in the area lets say 5 miles from the kidnapping. We might find green shirts. Starbucks I think has dark green shirts.

human
11-11-2009, 03:49 PM
I know where I live police have mics on their shirts that anything they say is recorded. I think the vehicles have video cams as well. That would be something to check out.

SharetheLight
11-11-2009, 03:52 PM
Did the comments say if this was before she came up missing, or after (2 or 3 police cars parked along the route she took home from school)?

this was supposedly routine prior to Somer going missing.