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LogicalMinds
02-14-2010, 03:42 AM
I keep hearing people here say that things are so much worse now...yet I know that years ago there were crimes, perverts, all sorts of things ..just that we didn't have national attention on them usually

Living in Pennsylvania I didn't hear about crimes in California on my tv or in the newspapers...people in Michigan didn't hear about crime in Florida and visa versa...and of course we had no internet

With no internet, we had no online predators....I think back then pornography was much harder to get, in stores, in "brown paper wrappers"...in adult "movie houses"

Of course..we also didn't have to wear seat belts or have auto insurance...and without cell phones it was much easier to get stranded
So that was dangerous

There were murders, rapes, all sorts of things but we didn't have them in our faces 24/7 on tv shows....and of course we didn't have the internet

I do think that families were "stronger"....more extended families...divorce was something frowned on, much less divorce tho I guess many stayed married and unhappy

Not so many fractured families, and not so many "single moms"....back when I was growing up some girls left high school to "stay with an aunt" in a neighboring state (ie, to have a baby and give it up for adoption)

I hate to say it...as I know it is not politically correct...BUT...some people were called "crazy" and spent time in and out of mental hospitals (my uncle for one) and IMHO their families were safer from this

They didn't have so many homeless people when they had mental hospitals...and yes I realize that many of these hospitals were bad or unfair but they were fair to the rest of the public who were kept safe from them

The economy was better too in the 50's and 60's.

But still there were horrible crimes and bad people..

Justice was somehow served without the use of dna and high tech CSI stuff..and justice seemed to be pretty swift...Death Penalty was used in more states, not questioned so much....some had gas, some had electric chair, some "hanged" them...it was pretty much accepted I guess???

.I guess we just didn't have them on tv and without the internet nothing to "sleuth" I do remember the "Mafia" type crimes and criminals tho...they were the ones who had National attention, newspaper articles and books about them

So....do you think crime is worse now?? or is it just more "visable' and national...with 24/7 media and internet??

Karen Anne RN
03-08-2010, 07:51 PM
I keep hearing people here say that things are so much worse now...yet I know that years ago there were crimes, perverts, all sorts of things ..just that we didn't have national attention on them usually

~~respectfully snipped~~ & BBM

That is exactly what my husband told me several weeks ago when I was ranting and raving. and he's our GJF.

I don't agree with him. Growing up, we lived in a huge neighborhood, houses for miles, in a large texas town. My Mom stayed at home and I guarantee you, she knew dozens and dozens of women for miles around. They *all* stayed home back then. And they had coffee together. They talked on the phone. They went to PTA. Birthday parties, etc, etc, etc.

If so much as one house had been broken into, we would have all known about it. It just didn't happen. We lived there for 10 years, and I never heard of one crime in our neighborhood.

"So....do you think crime is worse now?? or is it just more "visable' and national...with 24/7 media and internet??"

I really do. And the crimes are so much more brutal. And, yes, the 24/7 spreads the word, too. We wouldn't always be running out of prison space, and doing early releases, if the crime rate was as low as it used to be.

Personally, I like the Sheriff who makes his inmates wear pink clothes. He said that I think it was one year after he started this, the rate of return criminals had reduced by something like 30%. When I think of what he's accomplished, it makes me smile.

galvino
03-08-2010, 08:52 PM
I think that BOTH are the case! I do think that the horrific nature of a lot of sexual crimes has escalated, in part because of the easy access to porn. Predators are both born AND made in some instances and the availability of graphic images that they can access again and again over the internet becomes more 'boring' and they need to act out the real thing in order to satisfy themselves.

My Uncle was a diagnosed schizophrenic who was also a child molester (this was in the 60's-70's). He molested me, then murdered his daughter whom he was also molesting. He spent time in a mental institution and then was arrested for molesting neighborhood girls. He had a sack of playboys in his room. I'm not saying that porn leads to crime and molestation, or lack of access prevents it, but I do think there are correlations. Oh- it was never discussed in my family either, because you just didn't talk about things like that back then.

I also think that the media's 24/7 loops focusing on these mass shooters encites others with f'd up beliefs to follow suit so that they can be heard, and the current economic is creating more unstable people to act than before.

I wish the news media would spend as much time focusing on groups that are trying to protect others, and how they are doing that. I started a thread in the Parking Lot about the idea of a March on Washington. If ya'll get a chance, read it and give me your thoughts.

BOZGAL
03-11-2010, 02:55 AM
~~respectfully snipped~~ & BBM

That is exactly what my husband told me several weeks ago when I was ranting and raving. and he's our GJF.

I don't agree with him. Growing up, we lived in a huge neighborhood, houses for miles, in a large texas town. My Mom stayed at home and I guarantee you, she knew dozens and dozens of women for miles around. They *all* stayed home back then. And they had coffee together. They talked on the phone. They went to PTA. Birthday parties, etc, etc, etc.

If so much as one house had been broken into, we would have all known about it. It just didn't happen. We lived there for 10 years, and I never heard of one crime in our neighborhood.

"So....do you think crime is worse now?? or is it just more "visable' and national...with 24/7 media and internet??"

I really do. And the crimes are so much more brutal. And, yes, the 24/7 spreads the word, too. We wouldn't always be running out of prison space, and doing early releases, if the crime rate was as low as it used to be.

Personally, I like the Sheriff who makes his inmates wear pink clothes. He said that I think it was one year after he started this, the rate of return criminals had reduced by something like 30%. When I think of what he's accomplished, it makes me smile.

ITA
Times are different and so are people. Many different reasons as population, the justice system, drugs, parenting skills are not a prime priority with alot of people and the list goes on and on.

JMO

xLiqoricex
06-12-2011, 03:25 PM
I am so glad someone brought up this topic.

I thought about this the other day and clearly remember telling my boyfriend how much crime has been escalating these days. Even though I was born in the 80's, I can tell from that time period up until now how crime has just become worse and aggressive. I feel that the only reason why there was not a lot of broadcasting in previous years is because the crime rate was not as high as it is today. Presently, I see much crime shown in the news probably because we have so much more crime happening.

I've noticed there are so many people who are going missing or people being found shot to death. In addition, people seem to be getting better at hiding their crime and a lot of cops just simply want to give up. Some won't even do anything about an issue unless they are pushed to the limit. Seems like the cops just don't want to try as hard anymore. My mother always talks about how things were so much better in her years and how she has no clue what is happening to a lot of people in the world. I've caught myself saying many times how people are just simply going nuts.

When the convicted go to prison, I believe they should have daily therapy exercises that help them learn and correct their behavior. Even if it doesn't sink it. Some how some way it has to. I've heard that special programs offered in prisons to help inmates, have less of a chance of committing a crime when released. It's about finding what will help these prisoners to not do a crime again and trying different tactics as well. Like what Karen Anne stated about the sheriff who makes his inmates wear pink clothes. I like when the prisoners are treated like normal human beings. I don't think allowing some prisoner to sit in a cell is going to do much in the long run.

From what I've observed, there is a lack of positive parenting going on in the world and there are a lot of single parents out in the world. Very young girls becoming pregnant. I believe a lot learn from their parents and if the parents aren't right to begin with then I doubt their child or children will be. It's teaching kids that it's OK to act in such a manner.

People need to be taught, listened to, loved and helped. I think things wouldn't be so bad if this happened more often.
I wish I truly knew why crime is becoming higher but I don't. But I believe it could be that there are more ignorant, only 5 sensory people in the world with lack of spirit and soul being born and when this occurs, bad things do happen. Or, This may sound a bit out there but I think this issue has a lot to do with the energy level around the Earth. I've heard and read thatthe energy level is increasing; hence, some people are responding to it well and others not responding to it well at all. Another reason is how the convicted person was treated as a child. If they had a rough horrible child hood who was abused beaten and just unhappy, some criminals will take it out on other people by murdering others, stealing of being a sex offender. Some people have PTSD and can cause someone to commit a negative act.

Just a thought.

Silkprint
06-17-2011, 04:00 PM
I think it is alot worse now .
We can share files in seconds and have live web cams that broadcast anything live .

Cracka*Jaxx
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Recently, before I had seen this thread, I asked my psychologist this very question. I was expecting his opinion to be that there is more crime today than in the past. I was wrong. In fact, he felt that there is actually less crime today because society is more aware thanks to modern communication and, in particular, the internet.

I have a book that looks at crimes in the headlines going back to the 1800's. It's shocking to see how individuals could do things like poison members of their family for many years before coming under suspicion. H.H. Holmes murdered hundreds in his downtown Chicago building before anyone got suspicious. Family members might go on vacation, or emigrate to another country, and all contact would be lost. The worried family members might not even know where the missing person was last seen. Not to mention, it was much more expensive and time consuming to search for someone. These days, for better or for worse, it's almost impossible to become anonymous!

I did notice that carrying out the punishment after a conviction is taking longer and longer- to the point of the ridiculous. In the early part of the 20th century, once someone was convicted of murder, he would be executed usually within a year. These days it takes about 20 years due to unending appeals. It's ludicrous. No wonder we have such overcrowding in the prisons!

Because crime is plastered all over the place these days, it's easy to believe that there is more of it. Although I haven't seen any statistics on this subject, I certainly hope my therapist is correct.