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JBean
02-17-2009, 08:29 PM
if you have a specific question about something, ask it here and hopefully someone can answer it.
Should not be an opinion type question, but rather factually based or where can you find something.

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Not for discussion beyond that. :)

Kimster
02-20-2010, 12:09 AM
Let's start all over again. BTW, the first thread is here: Q & A ABOUT THE CASE**ask a question, leave an answer**NO DISCUSSION** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I was looking through it and there are some very interesting facts that I'd forgotten.

This is ONLY for asking a question and leaving an answer.

If you leave an answer, be prepared to back it up with a link.

If you disagree with an answer, perhaps a thread needs to be opened so we can research for clues.

The old thread (that I closed more because of its length than its content) had begun a conversation about cell pings. It might have been best to answer that LE had not yet released cell pings that we could analyze. And then it would have been a good idea to either find an old thread about cell pings OR opened one if there isn't one to be found. You can always link to a discussion thread as your answer and sometimes it is better to do that since docs haven't been released to us yet.

And please PM me or Chicoliving if you just aren't sure. :grouphug:

ladonna
02-20-2010, 12:17 AM
Kimster

I maybe remiss in posting this here, but I think you have turned into one fantastic mod.

Kimster
02-20-2010, 12:47 AM
Kimster

I maybe remiss in posting this here, but I think you have turned into one fantastic mod.

Thank you so much! :blushing:

Mods are only as good as the members they lead. I think all of you are pretty fantastic yourselves! :grouphug:

And now I'm sending myself a warning for totally disobeying myself. :innocent:

LoveEndsWar
02-22-2010, 02:28 PM
Everyone who is anyone knows about MC LDTs. But I would like to document exactly who has had one (or 2..3) and the results if they are known.
So does anyone who has had LDT and/or results? TY.
1.MC
2.RC
3.ToC
4.LyC
5.TiC
6.CheCr
7.CryCu
8.CS
9.Cha..
10.MG
10.WBG
11.JO
12.TN
13.TNs BF
13.GGMS

All I could think of, add more if necessary. TY

elle1919
02-22-2010, 02:36 PM
Everyone who is anyone knows about MC LDTs. But I would like to document exactly who has had one (or 2..3) and the results if they are known.
So does anyone who has had LDT and/or results? TY.
1.MCyes, maybe 3
2.RC...yes, maybe 1
3.ToC...not known
4.LyC...not known
5.TiC...not known
6.CheCr...not known
7.CryCu....not known
8.CS..yes, one we know of
9.Cha..yes, one we know of( I think he said he did)
10.MG...she took a voice stress test, don't know why or who asked her to take that instead
10.WBGhe said he took one and passed via AH
11.JOnot known
12.TNnot known
13.TNs BFnot known
13.GGMS....not known

All I could think of, add more if necessary. TY


oops....my answers in purple. I DO know that law Enforcement has stated numerous times that all that were interviewed were offered a Lie detector test, they will not say who took them up on the offer, we only know who has taken one by their own admissions.

ALSO no results known 100% as LE will not confirm....we know how misty did on her second set..

LoveEndsWar
02-27-2010, 01:17 AM
Has anyone ever heard from Halieghs teacher and how was she doing that day, and if MC walked Haleigh to class and what color shirt did Haleigh wear that day or any of that? Thanks just wondering.

Maven2379
02-27-2010, 01:22 AM
Has anyone ever heard from Halieghs teacher and how was she doing that day, and if MC walked Haleigh to class and what color shirt did Haleigh wear that day or any of that? Thanks just wondering.

I don't think we have ever heard from her teacher, or anyone at the school at all.

MADJGNLAW
02-27-2010, 03:47 PM
Dose anyone know how old Timmy Croslin is? The reason I ask is because on JVM it is said that Misty's older brother may of came over with children and cousin Joe.



Hank Jr. (Tommy) Croslin
DOB 8/2/1986


Timothy Croslin DOB: 9/29/87

Maven2379
02-27-2010, 03:58 PM
Dose anyone know how old Timmy Croslin is? The reason I ask is because on JVM it is said that Misty's older brother may of came over with children and cousin Joe.

According to his MS he is 22.

whovillebaby
02-27-2010, 07:35 PM
Does anyone think we will see new jailhouse visit videos, or did RF put the kabash on that?

Beatrice
02-28-2010, 08:36 AM
2/09
Timmy Croslin lived on Tyler St.
What street did Hank Sr. & Tommy live on?

Emeralgem
02-28-2010, 09:28 AM
2/09
Timmy Croslin lived on Tyler St.
What street did Hank Sr. & Tommy live on?

NOT trying to be argumentative but Timmy Croslin did not live on Tyler.. Tommy and Lindsay did...
Timmy and his wife Chelsey lived in Crescent City...

Don't know where Hank Sr. lived at the time since he was in the hospital when Haleigh disappeared but my understanding is he was released from Shands Hospital and delivered by ambulance to Tommy's house on Tyler Street... JMO

ladonna
02-28-2010, 09:36 AM
There were at least three neighbors who spoke to the media when Haleigh went missing. Or maybe four. Does anyone recall who they were?

I remember Poppin and Santos being two.

Whisperer
02-28-2010, 10:08 AM
There were at least three neighbors who spoke to the media when Haleigh went missing. Or maybe four. Does anyone recall who they were?

I remember Poppin and Santos being two.

Another was the Bard's who lived on Buchanan next to where RC lived a few months prior and was the landlord. Also James Batchelor who lived two doors down from them when rc lived on Buchanan. He is the one who pointed out a well in the neighborhood but LE found nothing.

LFlorida
02-28-2010, 10:11 AM
Has anyone ever heard from Halieghs teacher and how was she doing that day, and if MC walked Haleigh to class and what color shirt did Haleigh wear that day or any of that? Thanks just wondering.

LE has. Media has not spoken to anyone but the principal of the school and she did not discuss Haleigh's last day in school.

LFlorida
02-28-2010, 10:18 AM
Is it TRUE cousin Jo is affiliated with a national gang? Perhaps, that why Ron C denied the fight and that Jo was ever there that night when everyone else was saying there was a fight and he was there.....JMO


IMO - NO. I think his mysp indicates he likes playing MafiaWars game on the social networks.

LFlorida
02-28-2010, 10:20 AM
There were at least three neighbors who spoke to the media when Haleigh went missing. Or maybe four. Does anyone recall who they were?

I remember Poppin and Santos being two.

I don't think Santos spoke with media until Mr Harris showed up in town.

Whisperer
02-28-2010, 10:25 AM
Does anyone know who supplied the attendance report to the media? I know AH had a copy but I am interested in how he obtained it.

Pastalover
02-28-2010, 10:45 AM
Does anyone know who supplied the attendance report to the media? I know AH had a copy but I am interested in how he obtained it.

When I put HaLeighs school records in the search I came up with a post that stated Crystal ordered them when she found out how much school HaLeigh had missed. So my GUESS would be her lawyer at the time, KP.

lil momma
02-28-2010, 10:49 AM
Does anyone know what day it was that it was reported that TN called Misty and asked her to babysit H&J? (you know when TN told Misty she would pay her, and Misty said as long as it was OK with Ron) TIA !

ladonna
02-28-2010, 11:50 AM
Does anyone know what day it was that it was reported that TN called Misty and asked her to babysit H&J? (you know when TN told Misty she would pay her, and Misty said as long as it was OK with Ron) TIA !


Wasn't that the night Haleigh went missing?

LFlorida
02-28-2010, 12:54 PM
When I put HaLeighs school records in the search I came up with a post that stated Crystal ordered them when she found out how much school HaLeigh had missed. So my GUESS would be her lawyer at the time, KP.

Can you give us a link or a hint?

Pastalover
02-28-2010, 01:05 PM
Can you give us a link or a hint?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3479667&highlight=haleighs+school+records#post3479667

Should be post 25.

Whisperer
02-28-2010, 06:47 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3479667&highlight=haleighs+school+records#post3479667

Should be post 25.

That post was sure confusing. As I recall TN took Haleigh to a hospital around the 11th or so and receved a note from the dr that Haleigh could be excused for three days. I remember that she was taken to a clinic a week after the cut on the nose and received more down time. Perhaps that is when CS had her. Busy states that Crystal took Haleigh on the 12th....well, if so, that is within the prescribed time the doctor wrote an excuse for an absence.

A poster was complaining that Crystal took Haleigh out of school and it was not ron's fault that she missed three days...and it was crystal's fault . According to these records that is not true

Whisperer
02-28-2010, 06:58 PM
When I put HaLeighs school records in the search I came up with a post that stated Crystal ordered them when she found out how much school HaLeigh had missed. So my GUESS would be her lawyer at the time, KP.

Well, it looked like the day was originally marked as "U" (unexcused absence) but rubbed out to say "." (present).

It may be an honest mistake by a school official but it would certainly be appreciated if somebody would explain it.

LFlorida
02-28-2010, 07:29 PM
There were at least three neighbors who spoke to the media when Haleigh went missing. Or maybe four. Does anyone recall who they were?

I remember Poppin and Santos being two.

Here's Poppin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDUDIsp9xQM&feature=player_embedded#

I'll try to find Santos from 2/20/2010.

MADJGNLAW
03-01-2010, 03:16 PM
:waitasec: I thought LE said that the Haleigh case was not a cold case?:banghead:



Alachua's actual CCU more challenging than TV's CSI
Even years later, police look for lead that will bring a break
Published: Friday, February 26, 2010 at 6:01 a.m.

<snipped>
It can start with a tip or the opening of a musty case book.

Cold case analyst Jamie Whiteway begins the tedious process of reviewing stacks of paper filed by officers sometimes decades ago. She looks at crime scene descriptions laid out in inches and feet instead of GPS locations and reading through the history of efforts made to solve the case.

And while reading the files, she catalogs the information on the computers and looks for ways to move the case forward, perhaps with a new interview or maybe a test using new DNA technology.

Members of the Alachua County Sheriff's Office Cold Case Unit include Dean, who has been with the agency more than 20 years, Whiteway, a cold case analyst, and Larry Ruby, a special agent with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. The team currently is assigned to 28 cases of homicide, missing persons and unidentified remains in the county. The oldest posted on the Sheriff's Office Web site dates back to 1966.

"*Much More At Link! Very Informative Info...IMO
***5-Page Article!!!!

The images shown below related to cold cases from left to right and top to bottom:
James Edward Tuff Jr., Haleigh Cummings, Sudheer Satti, sketch of rape suspect, Tiffany Sessions, Wende Ellinger, Michael Shane Crutchfield, Heather and Kira Radcliffe, Elizabeth Foster.



SEARCH COLD CASE DATABASE
Explore Gainesville.com's interactive database of unsolved cases.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/9...MISC/907289998

Database center
See a database of unsolved crimes in the area.
http://www.gainesville.com/datacenter

Article:http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...-than-TV-s-CSI

elle1919
03-01-2010, 04:21 PM
MADJG, when I click the link you posted it tells me Bad request?

If it says Haleigh's name someone made a boo boo over there huh?

MADJGNLAW
03-01-2010, 04:28 PM
MADJG, when I click the link you posted it tells me Bad request?

If it says Haleigh's name someone made a boo boo over there huh?

Angel Who Cares posted the article in the media links, try to access it through the media links. That is where I got the link.

elle1919
03-01-2010, 04:40 PM
Ah I see, Haleigh falls under the "unsolved" category, the article is very confusing until you read it all the way. The database is for unsolved crimes as well as cold cases.

LoveEndsWar
03-01-2010, 07:05 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf
In this link, are they talking about the gun that was stolen at the same time as the dish soap, towels and gatorade bottle of coins? Or is this a seperate incident? Thank you.

Emeralgem
03-01-2010, 07:22 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf
In this link, are they talking about the gun that was stolen at the same time as the dish soap, towels and gatorade bottle of coins? Or is this a seperate incident? Thank you.

Separate

Crosby87
03-01-2010, 07:27 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/16/croslin.police.report.pdf
In this link, are they talking about the gun that was stolen at the same time as the dish soap, towels and gatorade bottle of coins? Or is this a seperate incident? Thank you.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/01/tommy.croslin.2010.burglary.report.pdf

Here is a link to the incident report that explains the items you listed were stolen from a neighbor who lived next to Lindsy and Hank Jr on Tyler Avenue.

This neighbor was apparently sleeping when Tommy broke into her home and stole these items plus a gun.

Patty G
03-02-2010, 10:15 AM
Is Misty's next court date March 8th or????

pferrin
03-02-2010, 10:46 AM
Is Misty's next court date March 8th or????

2/8/2010 D.H.S.M.V. INFORMATION SHEET (SPELLING OF MIDDLE NAME)
2/8/2010 FELONY ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 03/08/2010 AT 1:30 PM IN 328/ , JDG: BERGER, WENDY W
2/8/2010 PROSECUTOR: ROYS, JACQUELYN ASSIGNED
2/3/2010 INFORMATION
2/3/2010 FILED SEQ: 1 SAME - (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G - 30 KG


this is for st johns county for misty and below is putnam county for misty


2010-02-18 14 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE-TRIAL SET 03/31/2010

2010-02-18 15 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010

2010-02-18 16 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR TRIAL

2010-02-18 16 BY JURY, NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, REQUEST FOR COPY OF

2010-02-18 16 INFORMATION AND MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS

2010-02-18 16 FILED BY: ROBERT M FIELDS

2010-02-23 17 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL

2010-02-23 18 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

Patty G
03-02-2010, 12:18 PM
2/8/2010 D.H.S.M.V. INFORMATION SHEET (SPELLING OF MIDDLE NAME)
2/8/2010 FELONY ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 03/08/2010 AT 1:30 PM IN 328/ , JDG: BERGER, WENDY W
2/8/2010 PROSECUTOR: ROYS, JACQUELYN ASSIGNED
2/3/2010 INFORMATION
2/3/2010 FILED SEQ: 1 SAME - (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G - 30 KG


this is for st johns county for misty and below is putnam county for misty


2010-02-18 14 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE-TRIAL SET 03/31/2010

2010-02-18 15 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010

2010-02-18 16 APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND FOR TRIAL

2010-02-18 16 BY JURY, NOTICE OF DISCOVERY, REQUEST FOR COPY OF

2010-02-18 16 INFORMATION AND MOTION FOR STATEMENT OF PARTICULARS

2010-02-18 16 FILED BY: ROBERT M FIELDS

2010-02-23 17 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL

2010-02-23 18 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)

I knew 3/8/10 was for something and now I know this is for the Felony Arrangement for St. Johns.

Then 3/31/10 for Pre-Trial in Putnam.

Thanks so much very much! :blowkiss:

We might need a sticky thread for all court appearances since there will be quite a few of them going on soon. :crazy:

Skully
03-02-2010, 01:02 PM
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/02/01/tommy.croslin.2010.burglary.report.pdf

Here is a link to the incident report that explains the items you listed were stolen from a neighbor who lived next to Lindsy and Hank Jr on Tyler Avenue.

This neighbor was apparently sleeping when Tommy broke into her home and stole these items plus a gun.

The last page of the incident report says structure was unoccupied and a bit farther down it says "Victim status- Out of Town". Where does it say she was sleeping or is this referring to some one else in the house????

ladonna
03-04-2010, 10:14 AM
I've been trying to find out what I can about Rita Lane, the address Teresa gave LE. Does anyone know the history of that address and who owns it? I beleive verification of where Teresa was living at that time could trigger much what was going on that day.

newstome
03-04-2010, 10:27 AM
I've been trying to find out what I can about Rita Lane, the address Teresa gave LE. Does anyone know the history of that address and who owns it? I beleive verification of where Teresa was living at that time could trigger much what was going on that day.

Check out Whisper's posts about it.

LFlorida
03-04-2010, 11:22 AM
2/8/2010 D.H.S.M.V. INFORMATION SHEET (SPELLING OF MIDDLE NAME)
2/8/2010 FELONY ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 03/08/2010 AT 1:30 PM IN 328/ , JDG: BERGER, WENDY W
2/8/2010 PROSECUTOR: ROYS, JACQUELYN ASSIGNED
2/3/2010 INFORMATION
2/3/2010 FILED SEQ: 1 SAME - (893.135 1C1C) TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE

~~snipping the docket to make my Q short & sweet~~

Is D.H.S.M.V. Dept of Highway Safety & Motor Vehicles? [Was her middle name wrong on the booking and all?]

INFORMATION FILED SEQ - anybody know what that means? Sequentially? Sequestered? [I didn't take Latin, so is it Latin?]

thx - whoever answers the 2nd Q, if you have a good link re: legal terminology for laypersons, I'd appreciate it.

4Jacy
03-04-2010, 01:20 PM
I've had company since last Friday, they finally left and I can get caught up. My question is what has been going on with Hank, Sr and Lisa Croslin? Is LP still taking care of them? Are they still in that little apartment? When their court datess are over will they be moving to CA to work with LP's brother? tia

ladonna
03-04-2010, 02:19 PM
Is there any confirmed info that Teresa is or was on disabilty and is no longer a dispatcher?

MrLucky917
03-04-2010, 06:08 PM
Has it been confirmed yet that Misty has fired her attorney and gotten a public defender?

debs
03-04-2010, 06:12 PM
Has it been confirmed yet that Misty has fired her attorney and gotten a public defender?

The motion was for Mr. Fields to be assigned Misty's PD.

Pastalover
03-04-2010, 07:40 PM
~~snipping the docket to make my Q short & sweet~~

Is D.H.S.M.V. Dept of Highway Safety & Motor Vehicles? [Was her middle name wrong on the booking and all?]

INFORMATION FILED SEQ - anybody know what that means? Sequentially? Sequestered? [I didn't take Latin, so is it Latin?]

thx - whoever answers the 2nd Q, if you have a good link re: legal terminology for laypersons, I'd appreciate it.

Here is a link to the new lawyers thread on HaLeighs forum. Maybe they will see your question there.
U]Legal questions for our VERIFIED lawyers on the board - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/U]

Crosby87
03-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Is a pipeline located near the St. John's River? TIA.

the seeker
03-12-2010, 02:10 AM
Can anyone provide me a link where the air conditioning man who was at the MH that day is discussed? Im curious to see what is known about him, as I have only heard he was at the house, but no other discussion about him that I am aware of. If there is one here at ws I would love to read it. Thanks.

LFlorida
03-12-2010, 11:02 AM
Is a pipeline located near the St. John's River? TIA.

What kind of pipeline? Sewer, stormwater, oil, gas, etc..?

Yes - sewer
Yes - stormwater
Yes - natural gas
Yes - waste water from GP processing of pulp for paper

Oil - IDK, maybe, there's an FPL substation in San Mateo.

Also of note - The St. Johns River is a really, really long river that originates somewhere around Deland [I think] and flows into the Atlantic ocean up on the north side of Jacksonville. My answers above are in re: to the immediate Putnam County area.

eta - Link to wikipedia info re: SJR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Johns_River

Correction - per this, the headwaters are way down in Indian River County. [Learn something new everyday.]

elle1919
03-12-2010, 11:19 AM
Can anyone provide me a link where the air conditioning man who was at the MH that day is discussed? Im curious to see what is known about him, as I have only heard he was at the house, but no other discussion about him that I am aware of. If there is one here at ws I would love to read it. Thanks.

Here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80468&highlight=Repairman

there might be a revisited thread...but that is what came up when I searched. : ) You might try googling the Ac Repairmen Haleigh Cummings for more info.

Missingmeds
03-13-2010, 08:18 AM
In Tommy's incident/arrest report there was a white male in a black pickup that he talked. Does anyone know who the white male is? Supposedly there was a scanner thread that mentions a black pickup out of East Palatka and that is the one I am asking about.

ladonna
03-14-2010, 10:43 AM
Whatever happened with the RatGate caper? Were any charges filed?

bessie
03-14-2010, 12:55 PM
~~snipping the docket to make my Q short & sweet~~

Is D.H.S.M.V. Dept of Highway Safety & Motor Vehicles? [Was her middle name wrong on the booking and all?]

INFORMATION FILED SEQ - anybody know what that means? Sequentially? Sequestered? [I didn't take Latin, so is it Latin?]

thx - whoever answers the 2nd Q, if you have a good link re: legal terminology for laypersons, I'd appreciate it.
Some programming languages use the SEQ command to index lists of files or records in sequential order. Without going into a technical explanation, I'll simply say that I'm *pretty sure* SEQ in this instance is computer code. (Et seq is a Latin phrase used in legal docs to indicate discussion of a referenced item follows on subsequent pages, but it doesn't apply here.)

ladonna
03-14-2010, 01:58 PM
I'm joansing for info on Ratgate. Were any charges ever filed against Ron?

twall
03-15-2010, 12:08 AM
I'm joansing for info on Ratgate. Were any charges ever filed against Ron?

no, no charges were filed against Ron.
Even the August BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY charge never went anywhere.
What is up with that?

Crosby87
03-15-2010, 09:41 AM
What kind of pipeline? Sewer, stormwater, oil, gas, etc..?

Yes - sewer
Yes - stormwater
Yes - natural gas
Yes - waste water from GP processing of pulp for paper

Oil - IDK, maybe, there's an FPL substation in San Mateo.

Also of note - The St. Johns River is a really, really long river that originates somewhere around Deland [I think] and flows into the Atlantic ocean up on the north side of Jacksonville. My answers above are in re: to the immediate Putnam County area.

eta - Link to wikipedia info re: SJR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Johns_River

Correction - per this, the headwaters are way down in Indian River County. [Learn something new everyday.]

Thank you LFlorida,

This pipeline which runs through Putnam County is above ground with light green on it. Does this ring a bell?

LFlorida
03-15-2010, 09:48 AM
Thank you LFlorida,

This pipeline which runs through Putnam County is above ground with light green on it. Does this ring a bell?

Is this like from a dream or a vision?

eta - the only thing I can think of like that is the piping inside of the FPL substation. You might ask GER, though.

LFlorida
03-15-2010, 09:51 AM
I'm joansing for info on Ratgate. Were any charges ever filed against Ron?


no, no charges were filed against Ron.
Even the August BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY charge never went anywhere.
What is up with that?

IIRC - Tim Miller is on audio tape stating that he asked Tommy/Hank Jr/Sr to NOT press the charges vs. Ronald.

[Now, where the heck that audio is, IHNI.]

SoSueMe
03-16-2010, 10:13 AM
Do we have videos of Ron and Misty getting married? In the ones I've seen, I don't see GGMS and I was wondering if she attended. Does anyone know?

ladonna
03-16-2010, 10:25 AM
Do we have videos of Ron and Misty getting married? In the ones I've seen, I don't see GGMS and I was wondering if she attended. Does anyone know?

The marriage took place at Mrs. Sykes, so I would think she would be there.

ladonna
03-17-2010, 06:11 AM
Looking for the video/article of Mrs. Sykes saying they searched the wrong pond at the Mondex. Does anyone have it?

debs
03-17-2010, 07:36 AM
Ladonna, we can narrow it down to around Sept 17/18...or thereabouts.

Crosby87
03-17-2010, 10:25 AM
Is this like from a dream or a vision?

eta - the only thing I can think of like that is the piping inside of the FPL substation. You might ask GER, though.

Yes to the first question. How do I contact GER? TIA

Concerned Papa
03-17-2010, 11:42 AM
Yes to the first question. How do I contact GER? TIA

Send her a PM. She's a member here at WS.

LoveEndsWar
03-17-2010, 11:50 AM
Yes to the first question. How do I contact GER? TIA

GER is usually in the scanner room also. HOPE WE HAVE HELPED. Sorry for the caps.

elle1919
03-17-2010, 12:19 PM
IIRC - Tim Miller is on audio tape stating that he asked Tommy/Hank Jr/Sr to NOT press the charges vs. Ronald.

[Now, where the heck that audio is, IHNI.]

Ask and you shall receive LF

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=e91276d17ee6ae4cc3bcd3da8 b1d0b7d36168356&maven_referralObject=1231772269#/Misty%27s+Brother+and+His+Wife+Questioned+in+Halei gh%27s+Disa.../49303120001

Tim Miller asks them to drop charges....in above vid

twall
03-17-2010, 07:22 PM
IIRC - Tim Miller is on audio tape stating that he asked Tommy/Hank Jr/Sr to NOT press the charges vs. Ronald.

[Now, where the heck that audio is, IHNI.]

I do recall the info. about TM asking the Croslins to drop the charges, I was not aware if it was done or not.
Question:
Does anyone recall why TM asked them to drop the charges? What was his reasoning behind it? Did he do it because Ron asked him to?

TIA

ladonna
03-17-2010, 08:09 PM
I do recall the info. about TM asking the Croslins to drop the charges, I was not aware if it was done or not.
Question:
Does anyone recall why TM asked them to drop the charges? What was his reasoning behind it? Did he do it because Ron asked him to?

TIA


I bet Tim has misgivings right about now.

cluciano63
03-17-2010, 09:35 PM
Is there any indication of when a trial for RC or MC might take place on drug charges? Because I think that until that happens, or is looming, there won't be any kind of info coming from either of them...only if a long, long sentence is on the horizon (to them, I mean, we know it is likely) would whichever one has less culpability talk at all, IMO to try to get something less...

ladonna
03-17-2010, 10:24 PM
Is there any indication of when a trial for RC or MC might take place on drug charges? Because I think that until that happens, or is looming, there won't be any kind of info coming from either of them...only if a long, long sentence is on the horizon (to them, I mean, we know it is likely) would whichever one has less culpability talk at all, IMO to try to get something less...


Jerome had his trial yesterday and he got a hefty sentence.

Suthrnqt
03-17-2010, 10:52 PM
Why did Lisa Croslin get arrested again?? Was this for the stolen check/forgery charge from before or did she do something else? TIA

Maven2379
03-17-2010, 11:07 PM
Why did Lisa Croslin get arrested again?? Was this for the stolen check/forgery charge from before or did she do something else? TIA

UCN: 542009CF002529XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-12-22 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, LISA CARMEN
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-12-22 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PATTY BRIMM 12-19-09
2009-12-22 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2009-12-22 1 FELONY THEFT
2010-01-27 2 INFORMATION (GRAND THEFT)
2010-02-09 3 CAPIAS REQUEST FORM - BOND $504.00
2010-02-18 4 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $504.00
2010-02-19 5 ARREST REPORT - GRAND THEFT
2010-02-19 5 ARREST DATE:02/18/2010
2010-02-19 5 BOOKING NUMBER:10-741
2010-02-19 6 DEFENDANT'S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS
2010-02-19 7 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-19 8 $504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BOND-#2252856
2010-02-19 8 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FL (02/18/2010)
2010-03-04 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-18-2010)
2010-03-05 10 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (03-18-2010)
---------------------------------
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

----------------------------------

I think she stole someone's purse at Walmart.

ladonna
03-19-2010, 07:40 AM
Lisa was to appear in court yesterday on the Walmart charge. Does anyone know the outcome?

SoSueMe
03-22-2010, 09:17 AM
Would cell pings at PDM also cover the Mondex area?

ladonna
03-22-2010, 10:16 AM
Anyone have the copy of Tommy's dog nuisance police report? I believe it was dated Feb. 10

debs
03-22-2010, 10:40 AM
Would cell pings at PDM also cover the Mondex area?

no. There's easily 10 miles between the two places.

elle1919
03-22-2010, 11:24 AM
Anyone have the copy of Tommy's dog nuisance police report? I believe it was dated Feb. 10

Ladonna, you certainly have got me thinking this morning. I see where the PC court docket notes the activity on the dog nuisance charge, I can't seem to find the original date of the ticket or the police report of the incident. It looks as though Tommy and Lyndsy each had been issued citations about dog nuisances, over time, perhaps we should be looking for the report in her ( lyndsy's) name rather than Tommy's? The dog is a white pit bull.

I see the inference though. I have been troubled by the radio transmission on the night Haleigh disappeared since having heard it and the officer that responded from 116 Tyler. If there was a officer's unit there already at 116 that night around 2:30, add to that the report from a neighbor that had reported hearing hollering around that time and lets not forget ol Greenwood stating the first call that came in on this case came in around 2:30, it just don't add up to good in my opinion. I better leave it at that. I looked for the incident report and came up empty handed, does anyone know if there would be an incident report for a dog nuisance call...or where we could find the record of when that call came into dispatch? TIA

Maryann123
03-22-2010, 11:41 AM
Sorry, I forgot this was not for discussion! My question would be, is it possible that the loud voices could have come from neighbors yelling at the barking dogs? Is it possible that no report was filed, because by the time LE arrived, there were no dogs barking?

elle1919
03-22-2010, 11:52 AM
Sorry, I forgot this was not for discussion! My question would be, is it possible that the loud voices could have come from neighbors yelling at the barking dogs? Is it possible that no report was filed, because by the time LE arrived, there were no dogs barking?

there was a report filed and a citation issued which a fine was then paid towards in April 2009.

The Croslin's no longer reside at 116 Tyler so if your theory is correct theyLE investigators) could search until their hearts content.

elle1919
03-22-2010, 11:54 AM
Anyone have the copy of Tommy's dog nuisance police report? I believe it was dated Feb. 10

Not sure if the 2/27 hearing is for the 2/9-10 citation but here is the activity...in Hank jr's name

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-02-27 1 LOCAL ORD CITN: #09-1334 (02-10-09) PCSO/R CLARKE
2009-02-27 1 PUBLIC ANIMAL NUSIANCE
2009-02-27 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 03/12/2009
2009-02-27 2 OFFICER'S REPORT
2009-04-17 3 $57.00 LOCAL ORDINANCE FINE PAID

debs
03-22-2010, 11:59 AM
there was a report filed and a citation issued which a fine was then paid towards in April 2009.

The Croslin's no longer reside at 116 Tyler so if your theory is correct theyLE investigators) could search until their hearts content.

The property is still owned, and LE still needs a warrant and probable cause to search the property, unless the owners give consent.

elle1919
03-22-2010, 05:00 PM
Is it normal for the times to be redacted( I say redacted but maybe I should say absent, or not listed) off the radio transmissions or a 911 call? Has anyone ever seen times written for the radio transmissions or the 911 call on any of the reports? Maybe a question better posted on the scanner thread.

LFlorida
03-23-2010, 12:04 PM
What time did grAnnette arrive at the mobile home on Feb. 10, 2009?

debs
03-23-2010, 12:20 PM
What time did grAnnette arrive at the mobile home on Feb. 10, 2009?

According to her, she ignored a phone call from Ron, then took a second call and arrived sometime after 4 a.m.

LFlorida
03-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Is it normal for the times to be redacted( I say redacted but maybe I should say absent, or not listed) off the radio transmissions or a 911 call? Has anyone ever seen times written for the radio transmissions or the 911 call on any of the reports? Maybe a question better posted on the scanner thread.

It may have been edited by the media outlet for their own time/storage restraints. I do recall it being reported within the first week or ten days that PCSO had released 6 or 7 DVDs full of 911 calls [and/or dispatches, IDK] to media. It seems like they mentioned the calls covered a one week period but I don't know if it was the week before or the week after.

[Sorry, I don't have a link handy, but I'll try to find one.]

lonetraveler
03-23-2010, 01:17 PM
I just want to make sure that I did not just assume something here. Question is: If Tommy did go over to check on Misty after receiving the phone call from Ron, did he walk over or drive over? I can see where his dog would have barked her head off if she watched Tommy walk away from his home toward Ron's MH. I can also see how the dog would bark if someone was hiding the gun in the driveway culvert at Tommy's house. I feel sure that the dog would likely bark until Tommy returned to his home. Anway, did he walk over to check on Misty?

elle1919
03-23-2010, 01:28 PM
I just want to make sure that I did not just assume something here. Question is: If Tommy did go over to check on Misty after receiving the phone call from Ron, did he walk over or drive over? I can see where his dog would have barked her head off if she watched Tommy walk away from his home toward Ron's MH. I can also see how the dog would bark if someone was hiding the gun in the driveway culvert at Tommy's house. I feel sure that the dog would likely bark until Tommy returned to his home. Anway, did he walk over to check on Misty?


I DO NOT remember hearing whether or not it was specified if he walked over to check on Misty. Matter of a fact I can't remember if we were told how he got there. Timmy and Chelsea were borrowing the van, what other vehicles did Tommy and Lyndsy own at that time. Did I hear something about a couple peeps having a red truck? Maybe ToC was one of them.

ETA to add... if this guy chose to drive his son to the bus stop, (remember him being slumped over the van at the bus stop) then I doubt he would walk to Gr Lane.

LFlorida
03-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I just want to make sure that I did not just assume something here. Question is: If Tommy did go over to check on Misty after receiving the phone call from Ron, did he walk over or drive over? I can see where his dog would have barked her head off if she watched Tommy walk away from his home toward Ron's MH. I can also see how the dog would bark if someone was hiding the gun in the driveway culvert at Tommy's house. I feel sure that the dog would likely bark until Tommy returned to his home. Anway, did he walk over to check on Misty?

The barking dog citation was dated Feb. 10th.

Tommy checked on Misty while it was still Feb 9th - per Tommy. [According to Ronald's attorney, too, if I'm not mistaken.]

Missingmeds
03-23-2010, 06:15 PM
Could the barking dog citation be the reason that the one officer said that he was moving from Tyler Street to Green Lane on the morning of the 10th?

One of the officers said on the tape of the radio calls the night that Haleigh went missing that he was finished on Tyler and was headed to Green, do we know why?

Could it have been because he was dealing with the barking dog and could that have something to do with Haleigh missing?

ladonna
03-28-2010, 04:13 PM
Anyone have links or information re Ron taking a donation jar out of Crystal's tent way back then?

LFlorida
03-28-2010, 05:24 PM
Anyone have links or information re Ron taking a donation jar out of Crystal's tent way back then?

I've never heard of that, ladonna.

A donation jar was stolen, but not by Ronald Cummings. It was a janitor in Baker County.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133595&catid=3

I've read that Ronald would go into the Kangaroo and reach into the donation jars to get $$ to pay for his cigarettes and stuff, but IHNI if it was true. It was on forums and the like, not in a legit media site.

ladonna
03-28-2010, 05:31 PM
I've never heard of that, ladonna.

A donation jar was stolen, but not by Ronald Cummings. It was a janitor in Baker County.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133595&catid=3

I've read that Ronald would go into the Kangaroo and reach into the donation jars to get $$ to pay for his cigarettes and stuff, but IHNI if it was true. It was on forums and the like, not in a legit media site.


Thanks but if my memory serves me right there was a media report where LE says Ron was entitiled to the donation jar from Crystal's tent because he was the primary caregiver. I just can't find it...Its driving me mad.

badme102
03-28-2010, 07:17 PM
I've never heard of that, ladonna.

A donation jar was stolen, but not by Ronald Cummings. It was a janitor in Baker County.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=133595&catid=3

I've read that Ronald would go into the Kangaroo and reach into the donation jars to get $$ to pay for his cigarettes and stuff, but IHNI if it was true. It was on forums and the like, not in a legit media site.

I do remember reading it in a legit media article. (Not AH, or the others)
I remember LE being called about it but can't remember much more of the article. I'm going to keep looking.

ladonna
03-28-2010, 09:13 PM
I do remember reading it in a legit media article. (Not AH, or the others)
I remember LE being called about it but can't remember much more of the article. I'm going to keep looking.


Thank You badme... I know I read it somewhere, and I am desperate to find it. LR gave Ron apass for stealing it as he had physical custody/// I do recall that.

Missingmeds
03-29-2010, 08:38 AM
Does anyone know if it was ever told when PDM switched to the thumbscan system for their employees?

Also we do have Tommy, Misty, and Donna all three coming up for Pretrial on the 31st in Putnam County correct?

I know that Ronald's attorney is unavailable for his and that was filed some time ago, does anyone know if that is rescheduled and when?

LFlorida
03-29-2010, 08:42 AM
Does anyone know if it was ever told when PDM switched to the thumbscan system for their employees?

Also we do have Tommy, Misty, and Donna all three coming up for Pretrial on the 31st in Putnam County correct?

I know that Ronald's attorney is unavailable for his and that was filed some time ago, does anyone know if that is rescheduled and when?

And let's not forget cousin Hope. When's her trial [or hearing or w/e]?

ladonna
03-29-2010, 08:58 AM
Does anyone know if it was ever told when PDM switched to the thumbscan system for their employees?

Also we do have Tommy, Misty, and Donna all three coming up for Pretrial on the 31st in Putnam County correct?

I know that Ronald's attorney is unavailable for his and that was filed some time ago, does anyone know if that is rescheduled and when?


I found this from concerned Papa's post.

The clock in system that they have for employees NOW is a whole lot different than what they had back in February!!!! Now they have a laser time card where you have to insert the last four digits of your S.S. # and then SCAN your entire hand. Quite sophisticated stuff NOW. However....back in February, they had a time card that was done on the computer and it DID NOT ALWAYS WORK. It was common for workers to have to go back and 'clock' in when the computer was back up and running or to have co-workers do it for them, if they were busy.

ladonna
03-29-2010, 08:59 AM
Anyone have the driving time from Mudd Lake Rd to Green Ln?

twall
03-29-2010, 09:49 AM
Anyone have the driving time from Mudd Lake Rd to Green Ln?

It depends on how fast you drive!!
Seriously I have heard 1 1/2 to 2 hrs.
I have never mapped the mileage.

twall
03-29-2010, 10:06 AM
Court dockets for PC show 3/31 court dates for:

Tommy-grand theft charges, drug charges (incident at the bus stop and trafficking)

Hank-dr. shopping drug charge

Hope-drug charges (1-3 and 1-20 arrests)

Ron and Misty-all drug trafficking charges

No times given in PC dockets

For St. Johns Co.:

Donna-4/6/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY PRETRIAL

Misty-4/6/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY PRETRIAL

ladonna
03-29-2010, 11:17 AM
Court dockets for PC show 1/31 court dates for:

Tommy-grand theft charges, drug charges (incident at the bus stop and trafficking)

Hank-dr. shopping drug charge

Hope-drug charges (1-3 and 1-20 arrests)

Ron and Misty-all drug trafficking charges

No times given in PC dockets

For St. Johns Co.:

Donna-4/6/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY PRETRIAL

Misty-4/6/2010 1:30:00 PM FELONY PRETRIAL


Do you mean 3/31 not 1/31?

twall
03-29-2010, 11:22 AM
Do you mean 3/31 not 1/31?

Yes, I do!
Thanks for catching that-going on little sleep here, about time for a nap!

lonetraveler
03-29-2010, 08:34 PM
I must have been absent the day that this was explained but I'm asking anyway. Why aren't we getting any more of the jail house phone videos? I'm missing them. Is there a reason that we stopped getting them? TIA.

Whisperer
03-29-2010, 09:25 PM
Do the tapes have to go thru or be requested as evidence by the defense attorneys. If they don't request them, can LE release them? Shoemaker has made himself unavailable so new legal docs are going to him but will be held till he says. Is that why rc gets a reprieve?

Missingmeds
03-30-2010, 06:44 AM
I must have been absent the day that this was explained but I'm asking anyway. Why aren't we getting any more of the jail house phone videos? I'm missing them. Is there a reason that we stopped getting them? TIA.

It was explained to me by a lawyer in Florida that they have to be paid for and that there is the added expense of "decoding" them. Plus someone has to request that they be released. So to me it would appear that none of the media wants to pay for them and then pay to have them decoded.

Especially when you have older software as Putnam County has. Plus someone has to actually pick the cd's up.

The other thing is that they can't be released to the public until they have been released to the attorney and there is a time period after that release before they can release them to the public

Zoemonster
03-30-2010, 07:29 AM
Why are there no brawls over Ronald's 3rd child, a son?

How old was the mother when she and Ron had a relationship?

What was that relationship?

elle1919
03-30-2010, 10:34 AM
Why are there no brawls over Ronald's 3rd child, a son?

How old was the mother when she and Ron had a relationship?

What was that relationship?

I wish there was an answer for you, but in my researching this matter I cannot find proof that there is documented evidence that J is in fact RC's son. Perhaps Amber wasn't sure who the father was, it might have been between one or more men. I remember RC stated in an interview that J could be his son, but no paternity test was ever made public.

Amber was in a relationship with RC right before he became involved with Misty.

Age information can be found here: http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755885&IMG=56921

Hope that helps a bit

Crosby87
04-02-2010, 01:55 PM
Who knows what Timmy's tattoo represents? TIA

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_f3e13197cec79c20888bfb670bd41058.jpg

LoveEndsWar
04-02-2010, 03:55 PM
Who knows what Timmy's tattoo represents? TIA

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_f3e13197cec79c20888bfb670bd41058.jpg

It looks to me like a trendy panther breaking through the skin. These were becoming popular in the late 90s.

lil momma
04-02-2010, 10:15 PM
Does anyone recall the results to the question that Misty was asked during one of her taped tests about her thoughts on Ronalds involvement? Was she being truthful?

pip
04-02-2010, 10:30 PM
I haven't watched all the videos, i'm wondering if it's known what she said that her dad responds he has a hard time believing her? Did she accuse someone? thanks.

lonetraveler
04-02-2010, 11:54 PM
Does anyone recall the results to the question that Misty was asked during one of her taped tests about her thoughts on Ronalds involvement? Was she being truthful?

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20602572/index.html

This video is Misty’s full voice analysis test. At around the 10.57 mark Misty is asked if she thinks Ron is involved with Haleigh’s disappearance. She answers No, that Ron would not harm Haleigh. She is his heart. (my words here, you will have to listen for exact words). The person conducting the test tells Misty that the test shows that she (Misty) is not sure when she said that Ron was not involved.

Crosby87
04-03-2010, 10:12 PM
Going back to Misty's voice analysis tests, does anyone know if any of the examiners asked Misty if she harmed HaLeigh? I know Misty said in one of her interviews that she didn't hurt HaLeigh, but was she asked this question on any of the tests Tim Miller arranged? I clearly remember when LE asked Casey Anthony if she harmed her daughter and her reply was "No".

MADJGNLAW
04-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Where is Hank Jr.? He is not in St.John's records? In Putnam it states he is was sent to St.John's. But when I search
http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/courtcaseweb/CaseDetail.aspx?txt=cummings%2c+misty&ps=50&m=name&s=4&caseid=192668 nothing shows up for him.
He still shows up in the jail log though. I am confused..:waitasec:

MADJGNLAW
04-06-2010, 02:45 PM
Also, question for our legal experts please. TIA :blowkiss:

What do the following mean?

FELONY DOCKET CALL
FELONY JURY TRIAL



Snip" http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/courtcaseweb/CaseDetail.aspx?txt=Brock%2c+Donna&ps=50&m=name&s=4&caseid=192641

STATE OF FLORIDA ROYS, JACQUELYN
Defendant Attorneys
BROCK, DONNA MICHELLE HINES, MICHAEL P

Charges: Disposition:
TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G - 30 KG) (893.135 1c1c) (N/A)

Case Number Party Type Charge Case Status Disposition Fees Due Next Court Event

Date Event Judge Location Result
6/21/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY JURY TRIAL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328
6/15/2010 9:00:00 AM FELONY DOCKET CALL BERGER, WENDY W Courtroom 328

debs
04-06-2010, 02:54 PM
I think it means that Donna will face a trial, which means a jury must be paneled. In order to do that, they need to get on the court docket, and need to be prepared to impanel by the date set. Letters need to go out to potential jury members. (these are purely my interpretations of what these phrases mean.)

twall
04-07-2010, 12:22 AM
Where is Hank Jr.? He is not in St.John's records? In Putnam it states he is was sent to St.John's. But when I search
http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/courtcaseweb/CaseDetail.aspx?txt=cummings%2c+misty&ps=50&m=name&s=4&caseid=192668 nothing shows up for him.
He still shows up in the jail log though. I am confused..:waitasec:

Hank Jr. aka Tommy does not have any charges in SJC therefore he has no court docket. He is being held in SJC for PC.

elle1919
04-07-2010, 10:00 AM
I am checking into something and I was wondering if anyone has Lyndsy and Chelsea's maiden names? Pretty please and thank ya!

leslie1960
04-07-2010, 10:25 AM
I think Lyndsy's maiden name is "Collins." Not sure about Chelsea's; I'll keep looking.

leslie1960
04-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Chelsea's maiden name is Bergen.

Misty's relatives - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

elle1919
04-07-2010, 10:33 AM
Chelsea's maiden name is Bergen.

Misty's relatives - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79849)


That was fast! Thank you very much. I will let you know if my thought pans out!

lonetraveler
04-07-2010, 10:46 PM
I thought that Tommy Croslin was suppose to take a LDT yesterday, Tuesday, February 6th. What happened?

ladonna
04-08-2010, 09:16 AM
Who is John Bartlett?

pufnstuf
04-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Is this the wrong thread to ask... Why is Donna still in jail? Why hasn't her husband bonded her out? Is her bond really high? thanks in advance.

Kimster
04-08-2010, 03:28 PM
Bumping up.

elle1919
04-08-2010, 03:50 PM
Is this the wrong thread to ask... Why is Donna still in jail? Why hasn't her husband bonded her out? Is her bond really high? thanks in advance.

Not sure why she hasn't been able to bond out....do you want speculation? lol...Maybe this could be why? : http://www.news4jax.com/news/22515771/detail.html

whoever she was talking to didn't sound to anxious to bond her out. JMO

Bond amount was 250,000, don't think it changed, but I honestly haven't checked it in awhile..hope that helps.

ladonna
04-10-2010, 09:33 AM
Did anyone save this to their file?

The link no longer works.

Report Recommendation of the General Magistrate
These are some very interesting court docs between Bio Mom & Bio Dad - Read all thoroughly.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf (http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf)







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Dion
04-10-2010, 09:50 PM
Has it been made public if anyone other than RC and Misty had their phone records checked?

It would be interesting to know who called who, and whether or not any other family members had their cell phones turned off for the same period of time that Misty did.

elle1919
04-11-2010, 12:28 PM
Has it been made public if anyone other than RC and Misty had their phone records checked?

It would be interesting to know who called who, and whether or not any other family members had their cell phones turned off for the same period of time that Misty did.

yes Dion, very early on Kristina ( Nay Nay) Prevatt told Art Harris that after investigators browsed through Misty's phone they found her # and questioned her about the dates and times of the calls between them. Greg Page also said as much about his phone records in regards to Misty.

Lyndsey Crolsin said that Chelsea told her when investigators went to Mass, and the 14 hours of questioning occurred of her and Timmy C, they were asked about phone records on and leading up to the night Haleigh went missing. It is reported there was a phone call to Timmy C by Misty right after she turned her phone back on at 3:15 on the night Haleigh went missing. This phone call was before she called 911 or Ronald pulled in at around 3:25. ( according to reports)

ETA...no word on if anyone else's phone was turned off. Sorry.

elle1919
04-12-2010, 09:50 AM
Were there any radio shows covering Haleigh last night? tia

elle1919
04-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Did anyone save this to their file?

The link no longer works.

Report Recommendation of the General Magistrate
These are some very interesting court docs between Bio Mom & Bio Dad - Read all thoroughly.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf (http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf)







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Hi there, yup docs are gone online. I downloaded a copy of the PDF report of the General Magistrate which is 11 pages and also contains an affidavit from Crystal's dad, J Sheffield. I am not sure how to post it here but there is a copy you can download here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Custody Document: "To Determine Paternity & Parental Relief"


link to discussion about it might help those who are trying to find info on this that is here: Custody Document: "To Determine Paternity & Parental Relief" - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

4Jacy
04-13-2010, 11:28 AM
Question: Does anyone remember in the beginning it was reported that Misty had on wet shoes or boots when the police arrived? I think I read that but can't say definately. (I bet elle has the answer) tia

elle1919
04-13-2010, 11:35 AM
Question: Does anyone remember in the beginning it was reported that Misty had on wet shoes or boots when the police arrived? I think I read that but can't say definately. (I bet elle has the answer) tia

lol....thank you for the vote of confidence! I sure don't remember hearing about Misty specifically wearing squeaky shoes. BUT...now that I think of it, JR heard a bouncy couch and heard squeaky shoes...In my experience nothing squeaks more than a wet shoe.

Wish I could help you out more. : )

Patty G
04-13-2010, 12:13 PM
Is Misty expected to be in court today? I received notice that she is Out Of Custody from St. John's.

Offender Name: MISTY JANETTE CUMMINGS
Offender ID: SJSO10MNI002273 Date of Birth: 12/09/1991 Age: 18
Custody Status: Out of Custody Reason: Unknown Date: 04/13/2010 Race: White Gender: Female

nyvictoria
04-14-2010, 08:05 AM
Not sure if anyone will be reading here today with the search but...

Can someone pretty please post detailed instructions for getting to the live video feed at news4jax.com?

TIA!!!! :blowkiss:

dianna
04-14-2010, 01:48 PM
I have only lurked for six or seven years and have never posted anything.

But, I was wondering if anyone knows the color of Haleigh's blanket? Also, am not sure

which button to push.

suspicious1
04-14-2010, 02:09 PM
These threads are moving pretty fast.LOL

Does anyone know the link to the video where Haleigh's family is leaving the police station and TN is visibly so distraught that she can't drive. She gets into the passenger side of the vehicle.

It was posted on one of these threads but now I can't find it.

4Jacy
04-14-2010, 03:04 PM
I have only lurked for six or seven years and have never posted anything.

But, I was wondering if anyone knows the color of Haleigh's blanket? Also, am not sure

which button to push.

Welcome dianna!!! Don't know the color of her blanket, sorry. Which button to push for what?:stretch:

alwaysonmymind
04-14-2010, 03:09 PM
I have a question concerning the Croslin residence on Magnolia-

The night Haleigh went missing-Hank was in the hospital,,, was Lisa staying at the hospital with him? Or was she staying with Timmy and Chelsea? I vaguely remember something about her not having transportation to get back and forth to the hospital.
Was the Magnolia house empty the night Haleigh dissappeared?

TIA

Bittiness39
04-14-2010, 03:16 PM
Is it possible, assuming the cooler found (allegedly it is a cooler/box or whatever) did not contain the remains of a child, that perhaps if it is indeed true that Haleigh was dumped in the river, that her remains may have floated way past the site where she was dumped? I mean no disrespect to anyone. This is a difficult subject and a very sad one. But if supposedly, the divers found physical evidence that corroborated the tipster's information to LE, then is it possible that even though she was dumped there :( the currents may have moved her remains?

kappy50
04-14-2010, 04:32 PM
If MC is involved in a homicide, would she be tried as an adult or a juvenile, since she was only 17 at the time ?? If this questions has already been asked, I apologize. Thank You !

alwaysonmymind
04-14-2010, 04:36 PM
I have a question concerning the Croslin residence on Magnolia-

The night Haleigh went missing-Hank was in the hospital,,, was Lisa staying at the hospital with him? Or was she staying with Timmy and Chelsea? I vaguely remember something about her not having transportation to get back and forth to the hospital.
Was the Magnolia house empty the night Haleigh dissappeared?

TIA

Bumping this up.....

Could Misty have come over to her parents, knowing no one was home?

She could have wanted to avoid GGM Sykes dropping by again.

debs
04-14-2010, 05:48 PM
If MC is involved in a homicide, would she be tried as an adult or a juvenile, since she was only 17 at the time ?? If this questions has already been asked, I apologize. Thank You !

Many teens are tried as an adult, and I believe this would be the case here.

I AM THE 14 CAR
04-14-2010, 07:51 PM
How long has Ron known or know of JO ? Did RC know JO before RC started dating Misty ?

Is it true or not that JO is a Registered Sex Offender ?

thanks

Kimster
04-14-2010, 08:51 PM
Joe Overstreet is not a registered sex offender.

impatientredhead
04-14-2010, 09:06 PM
If MC is involved in a homicide, would she be tried as an adult or a juvenile, since she was only 17 at the time ?? If this questions has already been asked, I apologize. Thank You !

Tried as an adult, not eligible for execution.

karma-girl
04-15-2010, 02:15 PM
Please forgive me as I have not been following this case...I am seeing a lot of posts about Hailey being molested by Jo or ToC, may I ask where this info came from and if there is no credible source then why all the speculation? Sorry but it's really creeping me out and I just would like to know if this has been from a news or family source...Thank you for your help!:blowkiss:

Kimster
04-15-2010, 02:28 PM
Please forgive me as I have not been following this case...I am seeing a lot of posts about Hailey being molested by Jo or ToC, may I ask where this info came from and if there is no credible source then why all the speculation? Sorry but it's really creeping me out and I just would like to know if this has been from a news or family source...Thank you for your help!:blowkiss:

This was discussed on the Levi Page show last night and you can read about it on that thread. :blowkiss:

*~Aimee~*
04-15-2010, 07:21 PM
What is the link to the letter? Someone said it is on the home page and either I am overlooking it or it was moved? Please help this lost person LOL

nyvictoria
04-15-2010, 07:47 PM
What is the link to the letter? Someone said it is on the home page and either I am overlooking it or it was moved? Please help this lost person LOL

It's at the bottom of the home page, with other pictures:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1183&pictureid=10052

Kenziema
04-16-2010, 08:56 AM
Does anyone know how close the Croslins were to Haleigh? I mean, IF Toc or JO walked out of the MH carrying her, did she feel safe with them? Did she know who they were or were they strangers to her?

elle1919
04-16-2010, 10:57 AM
Does anyone know how close the Croslins were to Haleigh? I mean, IF Toc or JO walked out of the MH carrying her, did she feel safe with them? Did she know who they were or were they strangers to her?

Joe ....in my opinion no.....ToC....I have to say yes. Haleigh played at their house many times and vice versa. He would have been no stranger to her, in my opinion.

MA_MA5353
04-16-2010, 11:04 AM
Do any of the players know Chad Reynolds? Do any of you think maybe Ron Killed him at a party because he did something to Haleigh [molested her] and all know this and therefore is covering for him? Thanks

BobbieDoll
04-16-2010, 11:35 AM
One thing that keeps getting left out of all the scenarios that I've read so far is Jr.

If Misty, Tommy and Joe took Haleigh 5 miles away to dispose of her did they leave that little boy home alone? It would have taken them a long time to get that child out to that dock and then come back home.

passionflower
04-16-2010, 11:45 AM
Where was JR? during everything?

When do we get sunshine doc drop?

Do we have to wait until an arrest for Sunshine law?

impatientredhead
04-16-2010, 11:49 AM
Please forgive me as I have not been following this case...I am seeing a lot of posts about Hailey being molested by Jo or ToC, may I ask where this info came from and if there is no credible source then why all the speculation? Sorry but it's really creeping me out and I just would like to know if this has been from a news or family source...Thank you for your help!:blowkiss:

To my knowledge the only source has been comments made by Misty.
And you know how easy she is to follow and verify what she has claimed.
So we don't really know.

Patty G
04-16-2010, 11:50 AM
Do any of the players know Chad Reynolds? Do any of you think maybe Ron Killed him at a party because he did something to Haleigh [molested her] and all know this and therefore is covering for him? Thanks

IMO, Nope.

Patty G
04-16-2010, 11:53 AM
Where was JR? during everything?

When do we get sunshine doc drop?

Do we have to wait until an arrest for Sunshine law?

I believe we have to wait until formal charges have been made.

Patty G
04-16-2010, 12:09 PM
Who told Granny Flo Tommy didn't pass his polygragh?

passionflower
04-16-2010, 12:19 PM
anyone remember that fatal night............
first 911 call came from 116 Tyler ave.........Tommy's house
then awhile later 911 call came in from Cummings house
do we know what happened at 116 Tyler?????
Domestic fight????
Is that possiblt when TC came home ????

wantsjustice
04-16-2010, 12:47 PM
Does anyone know if Ron actually said:

I need 35,000.00 to get Haleigh back?? It was in the beginning, when Haleigh first went missing etc...

If it wasn't him, then who we're the ones that said: Ron told us, he needed 35,000.00 and he could get Haleigh back?

And can you guide me to those stories and or posts.. TIA

QueenD
04-16-2010, 12:55 PM
Who told Granny Flo Tommy didn't pass his polygragh?
Tommy. Call supposely confirmed by LE per Jean C on HLN today. I was looking around now to confirm, someone called and told me.

4Jacy
04-16-2010, 01:11 PM
Does anyone know if Ron actually said:

I need 35,000.00 to get Haleigh back?? It was in the beginning, when Haleigh first went missing etc...

If it wasn't him, then who we're the ones that said: Ron told us, he needed 35,000.00 and he could get Haleigh back?

And can you guide me to those stories and or posts.. TIA

I believe Ron told this to Cobra. Also, there was something about Larry and if RC could get him the $35,000, Larry could get Haleigh back for Ron.

Patty G
04-16-2010, 01:42 PM
Tommy. Call supposely confirmed by LE per Jean C on HLN today. I was looking around now to confirm, someone called and told me.

When Tommy called Granny, Granny stated to Tommy, "I heard you failed the polygraph test, etc." Someone told Granny Tommy failed before Tommy called Granny.

Perhaps LE confirmed Tommy called Granny, but someone called Granny to tell her about the failed polygraph, unless of course Granny reads the Internet.

Still looking for that answer.

harleysnana
04-16-2010, 02:21 PM
Granny said she heard 3 stories about what happened….
1.Joe killed Haleigh
2.Misty hit Haleigh in the head and Joe and Tommy put her body in the river.
3.Tommy and Joe put Haleigh in the river.

People are saying that they don’t believe what granny is saying….
what reason would granny have to lie?

Kat
04-16-2010, 05:36 PM
Do we have a thread for Chelsea? (she is going to be on NG tonight)

I want to refresh my memory of who she is, and if she has given any statements to the media--etc.

Can someone bump it for me please? I can't find it with a search. TIA.

grammieto5
04-16-2010, 05:38 PM
Does anyone know where Ron Jr. and Haleigh were when Misty was on her 3 days of partying?

racingwild
04-16-2010, 05:45 PM
I have a question? Didn't LE do a search in this river at the end of March? Do we know why they did and/if they ever found anything when they did that search?

debs
04-16-2010, 05:49 PM
I have a question? Didn't LE do a search in this river at the end of March? Do we know why they did and/if they ever found anything when they did that search?

They searched the river downstream (river flows north) near the Veteran's Memorial Bridge. I don't have a mileage, but by road, I'd figure easily 10 miles.

tehcloser
04-16-2010, 05:56 PM
Does anyone know if Ron actually said:

I need 35,000.00 to get Haleigh back?? It was in the beginning, when Haleigh first went missing etc...

If it wasn't him, then who we're the ones that said: Ron told us, he needed 35,000.00 and he could get Haleigh back?

And can you guide me to those stories and or posts.. TIA

IIRC........Tim Miller was the one. One of Miller's doners wrote the check the next day, but as Tim remarked......it has not been cashed yet.

littebudot
04-16-2010, 06:36 PM
Hope I am not dreaming this but I read where someone was talking about Misty jail visit with her nephew I can not find it anywhere!Does it exist? TIA

MADJGNLAW
04-16-2010, 06:37 PM
IIRC........Tim Miller was the one. One of Miller's doners wrote the check the next day, but as Tim remarked......it has not been cashed yet.

You are correct. Here is one article I have regarding Ronald Cummings “If I had $35000, I Would Have Haleigh Back
...Sep 2, 2009 ...
"Snip" http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/ronald-cummings-if-i-had-35000-i-would-have-haleigh-back/

August 28th, Hank Croslin Sr., left a voicemail message for Tim Miller claiming Ronald Cummings told him “If I had $35,000, I could have Haleigh back.” So Tim Miller reacted quickly, reaching out to people he knew who would help. Now another fellow Texan and friend of Millers, Roy Moffitt of Roy Moffitt Customized Fueling Inc., has stepped up to the plate and written a check to Ronald Cummings for $35,000.

txsvicki
04-16-2010, 08:59 PM
I don't see a thread on 4-16-10 Nancy Grace show hosted by Jane Casares. The letter that Misty wrote to Chelsea was shown on the screen, but not there long enough for me to read. Does anyone know where there's a copy or transcript of this letter? It was not read on the show.

Concerned Papa
04-17-2010, 12:22 AM
Does anyone have a link or any information regarding Misty's letter to Chelsea describing Joe with Haleigh and/or Tommy at the back door?


She says -- has said on several occasions, in addition to the letter, that she remembers waking up and seeing cousin Joe with Haleigh.

Misty told her Joe took Haleigh and when she turned around she saw Tommy looking in the back door and she turned away and looked back and he was gone.

EclecticArtist
04-17-2010, 11:04 AM
I'm confused on something. Maybe I just missed it, but, I keep reading that little Haleigh had a yellow rope attached to her leg tied to a cinder block and was thrown into the river.

To me it sounds like she was ALIVE at the time!!:furious: I pray to God this is not the case.

I also hear of a knife(to Misty's throat) and a gun(looking for or had one), but has it been stated when Haleigh died or how? It seems to me if Tommy and Misty fessed up to where her body was disposed, wouldn't they have told when or how she died???????

SoSueMe
04-17-2010, 11:06 AM
Where is the so called female lead detective on this case? Why haven't we heard from her? Also, why would the Deputy and the Sheriff contradict each other in the media?

Just who the h3ll is on first here?

debs
04-17-2010, 11:50 AM
Where is the so called female lead detective on this case? Why haven't we heard from her? Also, why would the Deputy and the Sheriff contradict each other in the media?

Just who the h3ll is on first here?

Peggy Cone can be seen in the video at the end of the presser, talking with Sheriff Hardy.

Kimster
04-17-2010, 11:54 AM
if you have a specific question about something, ask it here and hopefully someone can answer it.
Should not be an opinion type question, but rather factually based or where can you find something.

Ask a question
Leave an answer

Not for discussion beyond that. :)

Please read the quote above.

If your question isn't being answered, it may be an opinion question. Realizing we don't have a lot of facts in this case :(, please try to keep this thread open for questions that can be answered with fact or by providing a link to help you.

Thanks!

BetteDavisEyes
04-17-2010, 01:18 PM
Have there been childhood photos of Misty and/or her siblings posted on this website, or does anyone have a link to same? I'm curious about whether or not Misty or her siblings showed early signs of fetal alcohol syndrome. There are specific facial features in young children that indicate FAS. Thank you for your consideration.

debs
04-17-2010, 01:34 PM
Check that video with Gramma Flo. She had plenty of pictures of Misty surrounding her.

Leila
04-17-2010, 04:18 PM
On Wednesday or Thursday of this week, I was watching JVM, who was interviewing a guest about the river search. The guest (Mike Brooks, Art Harris, or T.J. Ward) said something about LE looking for the murder weapon. In response, JVM said, "right - the knife."

I was taking notes and wrote that down - "looking for the murder weapon - a knife."

I expected there would be discussion here on WS about JVM's comment about a knife, but find no one is discussing it.

Did anyone else hear JVM state the murder weapon was a knife?

chicoliving
04-17-2010, 04:45 PM
On Wednesday or Thursday of this week, I was watching JVM, who was interviewing a guest about the river search. The guest (Mike Brooks, Art Harris, or T.J. Ward) said something about LE looking for the murder weapon. In response, JVM said, "right - the knife."

I was taking notes and wrote that down - "looking for the murder weapon - a knife."

I expected there would be discussion here on WS about JVM's comment about a knife, but find no one is discussing it.

Did anyone else hear JVM state the murder weapon was a knife?


HARRIS: We heard her confirm that. And now, he is saying to her, you know, she called -- she called Misty and asked her what she knew. Misty finally said that she had been to the river and had been pointing out where the murder weapon was. That is what cops had her out there for yesterday. That comes as a result of the grandmother`s relaying the information to police, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But, Art, if she, according to our own story, didn`t go down to the river, she claims and Tommy, her brother, claims that Joe took her to the river. Why would she know where the knife was?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ijvm.01.html

Leila
04-17-2010, 05:12 PM
Thanks Chicoliving............I was positive I heard JVM say "a knife", and now see it in the transcript.

suspicious1
04-17-2010, 05:17 PM
I've asked this question on another thread and never got an answer..

Did the Cummings show up at the crime scene before LE and were asked to leave?
When did they show up?
I know they had that meeting Monday so if true, did they show up before or after that meeting?

Native Pride
04-17-2010, 07:55 PM
when chelsa was asked in the interview last night the last time she saw haeighly and she said when she got OFF The Bus and RON Had his window rolled up....was she refering to the day Haeighly went missing if so does that mean Ron was the one who picked her iup at the bus stop?

twall
04-17-2010, 08:08 PM
when chelsa was asked in the interview last night the last time she saw haeighly and she said when she got OFF The Bus and RON Had his window rolled up....was she refering to the day Haeighly went missing if so does that mean Ron was the one who picked her iup at the bus stop?

Chelsea never stated what day she was referring to so it is unclear what day she was referring to. I wish Jean C. would have asked her!

twall
04-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I've asked this question on another thread and never got an answer..

Did the Cummings show up at the crime scene before LE and were asked to leave?
When did they show up?
I know they had that meeting Monday so if true, did they show up before or after that meeting?

Watch the video at the link I posted titled Search for Haleigh: New Info. You have to do a search for Haleigh Cummings in the search box on the top left of the page. It is the 12th video from the bottom in the menu. At around the 1:30 mark Matt Saffer reports A. Sykes told him she was in the area of the search when LE arrived Monday morning to start the search and was told to leave. Actually he says yesterday but this report is from the noon news on Tuesday when word of the search first broke.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx

lonetraveler
04-17-2010, 10:44 PM
Has any information been confirmed about the "yellow rope" being mentioned early in the case? As far as I know, Leonard Padilla was the first person to mention "yellow rope". Has there been any other info released from earlier reporting?

karma-girl
04-18-2010, 09:20 AM
1. Has everyone closely associated with this case had a change of address?

2. How does someone make 90 calls while they are supposedly operating a crane at work?

3. Were there text messages sent the night Haleigh disappeared...if so, were they ever released to the public?

4. Where can I find a face with a name for all these 'characters'?

(:banghead:I am thoroughly confused!)

4Jacy
04-18-2010, 10:33 AM
1. Has everyone closely associated with this case had a change of address?

2. How does someone make 90 calls while they are supposedly operating a crane at work?

3. Were there text messages sent the night Haleigh disappeared...if so, were they ever released to the public?

4. Where can I find a face with a name for all these 'characters'?

(:banghead:I am thoroughly confused!)


BBM Answer: Someone who can multi-task. ha ha ha

A little laughter can take some of the tension away. :woohoo:

passionflower
04-18-2010, 10:57 AM
1. Has everyone closely associated with this case had a change of address?
2. How does someone make 90 calls while they are supposedly operating a crane at work?

3. Were there text messages sent the night Haleigh disappeared...if so, were they ever released to the public?

4. Where can I find a face with a name for all these 'characters'?

(:banghead:I am thoroughly confused!)

yes, The Croslins Hank & Lisa moved twice.
RC & MC moved in with GGS then separated and RC lived with a friend and MC was all over the place.
TN has been evicted from 1 place with BF and I have no idea where she lives now.
Tim, Chelsea are in MASS
Lisa has moved and her house is up for sale.

pip
04-18-2010, 05:11 PM
Does Misty mention visiting Hank SR in the hospital on the 9th? I can't find that anywhere. WBG says he called her in the morning on Monday the 9th and she was at the hospital. Thanks!

Kimster
04-19-2010, 01:20 PM
if you have a specific question about something, ask it here and hopefully someone can answer it.
Should not be an opinion type question, but rather factually based or where can you find something.

Ask a question
Leave an answer

Not for discussion beyond that. :)

Bumping thread to first page

Pensfan
04-19-2010, 02:13 PM
Early news reports stated that Haleigh's nebulizer was also missing from Ron's trailer. Was this true or false?

elle1919
04-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Early news reports stated that Haleigh's nebulizer was also missing from Ron's trailer. Was this true or false?

Unconfirmed by Law Enforcement what items if any were missing from the trailer at 202 Green lane on the night Haleigh went missing.

elle1919
04-19-2010, 02:24 PM
Does Misty mention visiting Hank SR in the hospital on the 9th? I can't find that anywhere. WBG says he called her in the morning on Monday the 9th and she was at the hospital. Thanks!

To the best of my recollection, Greg Page and Kristina P said that misty told them she would be going to visit her father in the hospital on Monday. According to misty she was napping for most of the day on Monday after dropping Haleigh off at school and in the LVA she didn't mention going to see Papa Croslin.

Helplessly Hoping
04-19-2010, 03:12 PM
Does anyone remember the interview with Ron wherein he states something like, 'If only I hadn't gone to work that night?' or something similar?

CarrieBean
04-19-2010, 10:16 PM
I've missed so much.

Has LE stated they are actually looking for a rope? cinder blocks? a murder weapon? Or is this all coming from the media?

Also, does Crystal have full custody of Jr. now? If so, when did that happen?

Kimster
04-20-2010, 12:18 AM
I've missed so much.

Has LE stated they are actually looking for a rope? cinder blocks? a murder weapon? Or is this all coming from the media?

Also, does Crystal have full custody of Jr. now? If so, when did that happen?

The only thing I've seen about the rope etc. has been "unnamed sources" from LE per the media. If I missed something, someone please correct me!

As for Crystal, she has temporary custody of JR. pending a hearing in family court to obtain full custody.

Scorpian
04-20-2010, 12:24 AM
Does anyone know where the picture or video is of MC moving out of the trailer and there is a picture of a rope on the front screen door; apparently used to hold the door open so they could move things out w/out opening and closing the door?

If I recall, it was a rope and we all commented on it, not b/c it was there b/c it was used to prop the door open.

Scorpian
04-20-2010, 12:28 AM
Also, would like to find early pictures of the trailer and surrounding areas when the garbage can was in the front of the house and the garbage cans on the side of the house.

I've looked and they seem to be gone.

Scorpian
04-20-2010, 12:51 AM
Anyone remember RC talking to LE on the dock? He handed them a piece of paper; they were sitting on a dock; where was that?

suspicious1
04-20-2010, 09:12 AM
Unconfirmed by Law Enforcement what items if any were missing from the trailer at 202 Green lane on the night Haleigh went missing.

Hey Elle, wasn't it Teresa N who said that something was missing? Because I know when I heard that I thought "how would she know?" And then we have the comment that they made about the house being exactly like it was the night Haleigh went missing. I questioned that comment too.

I never heard what it was that actually went missing, many just speculated that it was the nebulizer.

Was it TN who gave that comment? Anyone?

CarrieBean
04-20-2010, 09:16 AM
The only thing I've seen about the rope etc. has been "unnamed sources" from LE per the media. If I missed something, someone please correct me!

As for Crystal, she has temporary custody of JR. pending a hearing in family court to obtain full custody.

Was she also awarded temporary custody of Haleigh?

Kimster
04-20-2010, 02:37 PM
Was she also awarded temporary custody of Haleigh?

Not that I've seen reported.

orb4me
04-20-2010, 04:50 PM
In the pictures that Ger took the night of the Vigil...who is the man with the orange baseball game on backwards?

Who is the heavy set lady with long wavy hair?

I know the overly angry lady with gray hair and a gray jacket is a grandma, but which one?

Where are you, the one and only other person on this web site that is interested in orbs?

elle1919
04-20-2010, 06:44 PM
Hey Elle, wasn't it Teresa N who said that something was missing? Because I know when I heard that I thought "how would she know?" And then we have the comment that they made about the house being exactly like it was the night Haleigh went missing. I questioned that comment too.

I never heard what it was that actually went missing, many just speculated that it was the nebulizer.

Was it TN who gave that comment? Anyone?

Nobody throw anything at me but to the best of my recollection yes, it was Tn who stated that there was an item of Haleigh's missing from the home.

It was speculated that it might have been a gold necklace or an inhaler or perhaps the nebulizer, there is a thread here on WS about what might have been missing. No confirmation from LE though.

belle3
04-20-2010, 08:51 PM
was there ever any research done on the railroad tracks where the dogs lost her scent? TIA for any help.

elle1919
04-20-2010, 11:15 PM
was there ever any research done on the railroad tracks where the dogs lost her scent? TIA for any help.


Not sure what you might be looking for as far as research. There was a lot of talk of the train tracks early on in the threads. let me see if i can find it.

There was some discussion here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80416&highlight=railroad+tracks+haleigh+cummings



Also on the radio transmissions we can hear that a train had just passed through right before Haleigh went missing. I think there was concern that if she was wandering around in the dark.....and the train was coming....but, they did check into that and knew when the train came through.

Not sure if I helped, you might try the search option button here on this sight..Good Luck

Pensfan
04-21-2010, 02:01 AM
When the tracking dogs arrived to follow Haleigh's scent, the dogs tracked the scent along Monroe. Who involved in this case lives along Monroe?
Was this Haleigh's bus route?

Kimster
04-21-2010, 02:26 AM
When the tracking dogs arrived to follow Haleigh's scent, the dogs tracked the scent along Monroe. Who involved in this case lives along Monroe?
Was this Haleigh's bus route?

Monroe is right in the area of Tyler and Green. We keep these addresses in the Member's Only forum here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I'm not sure about the bus route? Does anyone else know that?

pingpong
04-21-2010, 09:47 AM
A RSO named Chad Reynolds from Ockalawa dissapeared around the same time as Haliegh.

He did time in the Putnam County Jail.

Was he in jail at the same time as any of the people involved in this case, or the neighborhood of Haleigh?

Emma Peel
04-21-2010, 11:42 AM
Can anyone direct me to video of JVM ISSUES with G'ma Hollar from 4/20.

Have read transcript. Can't find video.

TIA

4Jacy
04-21-2010, 12:30 PM
Does anyone know if any family member had life insurance on Haleigh? tia

MDdetective
04-21-2010, 08:59 PM
Can anyone tell me where to find video or transcripts of Tommy Croslin's jail calls????

TIA

Dr. Know?
04-21-2010, 09:17 PM
Can anyone direct me to video of JVM ISSUES with G'ma Hollar from 4/20.

Have read transcript. Can't find video.

TIA

Emma, go to youtube, type sierra1947 in the search box. You will find it. Search options for videos uploaded this week. The titles tell you what date they are from. Hope that helps and hope I didn't divulge a big secret?

ETA, thanks PattyG!!!

wonders
04-22-2010, 12:10 PM
Are they still searching the river? Thank you.

Oneduality
04-22-2010, 10:54 PM
I feel so bad that I am so late to this ... and there's so many discussions going on that it's hard to wade through the noise with any certainty, I've learned of this case only because of nancy grace, and I only did that because I'm a Dayton guy who was following the Tehan case... the brief things I read about this have broken my heart..

Can someone PLEASE forgive me and try to sum this up ... or point me to a post that does a good job of summing it up for me if it's already been posted? forgive me for being so late to this...

catnron
04-22-2010, 10:54 PM
On Ng tonight it was said that Tommy & joe had baby H alone and Misty & jr. had the covers over there heads. Jr stated earlier that there was a man in black Joe? and he heard bouncing on the couch.. Has there been anything about any DNA taken from the couch?
Praying for You Haliegh

Kimster
04-22-2010, 11:05 PM
On Ng tonight it was said that Tommy & joe had baby H alone and Misty & jr. had the covers over there heads. Jr stated earlier that there was a man in black Joe? and he heard bouncing on the couch.. Has there been anything about any DNA taken from the couch?
Praying for You Haliegh

That information has not been released.

Kimster
04-22-2010, 11:06 PM
Are they still searching the river? Thank you.

No, they aren't. If you look in the sticky forum under "Pictures from Putnam County" you'll see pics of the search area taken by one of our own members! :)

Kimster
04-22-2010, 11:08 PM
Can anyone tell me where to find video or transcripts of Tommy Croslin's jail calls????

TIA

There are many threads in the forum with jail cell calls. Look for the ones that have Tommy's name on them. :)

Forensic fan
04-23-2010, 09:57 AM
I am confused and have no idea if this has been discussed. If GGS brought the laundry, why did they have to go to her house the next day to get clothes, had she forgotten some of it? Or did they go the morning of the 9th and this happened the evening of the 9th?

raisincharlie
04-23-2010, 10:05 AM
I am confused and have no idea if this has been discussed. If GGS brought the laundry, why did they have to go to her house the next day to get clothes, had she forgotten some of it? Or did they go the morning of the 9th and this happened the evening of the 9th?

The claim is that Ron & Misty drove to GGMa Sykes the morning of 9 February to get the outfit Haleigh wanted to wear and from there took Haleigh to school.

GGMa Sykes reported that she dropped off clothes the evening of February 9th at approximately 7:30 pm.

Hope this helps.

wonders
04-23-2010, 03:32 PM
No, they aren't. If you look in the sticky forum under "Pictures from Putnam County" you'll see pics of the search area taken by one of our own members! :)



Thank you Kimster. Oh yes I've looked at the pictures. What amazing members we have here.

Baznme
04-23-2010, 05:20 PM
Can someone fill me in on Misty allegedly seen in the search area with a trash bag around the time Haleigh went missing? There was a witness?

4Jacy
04-23-2010, 08:13 PM
Could someone please help me. I posted this a few days ago, however, no one ever responded. My question: had any members of the family (on either side) taken out life insurance of Haleigh?

lonetraveler
04-23-2010, 08:45 PM
Where is Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin right now? Are they in town (Satsuma)? I read stories of them being in California per LP. This sounds doubtful to me. Does anyone know?

elle1919
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
Where is Hank Sr. and Lisa Croslin right now? Are they in town (Satsuma)? I read stories of them being in California per LP. This sounds doubtful to me. Does anyone know?

Not sure of their exact whereabouts today but hank was caught on camera during the search at the dock a few days ago stating he couldn't tell them anything if LE wasn't telling them anything( about the search, to a reporter)

Lisa C cannot leave the county( remember in the jail tapes we heard that they weren't letting her visit Misty, or leaving to visit their grandchildren with Lyndsy) so I am doubtful that Hank and Lisa have left Putnam County. I remember hearing them talking about LP helping them get a start in Cali as well...but to my knowledge they haven't gone anywhere. I believe Hank Sr still has charges to answer up to as well. HTH

elle1919
04-23-2010, 08:56 PM
Could someoone please help me. I posted this a few days ago, however, no one ever responded. My question: had any members of the family (on either side) taken out a life insurance of Haleigh?


Sorry 4Jacy, I would like to help you on this one but only know of rumors that Crystal had a life insurance policy on Haleigh, I don't know if there was ever confirmation of anything. I saw your question but didn't answer because honestly I think the answer is no...but have no way of knowing for certain. HTH

elle1919
04-23-2010, 09:02 PM
Can someone fill me in on Misty allegedly seen in the search area with a trash bag around the time Haleigh went missing? There was a witness?

Hi there....this might help fill you in.

There are some good discussions in here along with the statement from the neighbor in the first post. : 2010.04.14 Neighbors report that Croslin was seen with plastic bag in search area - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

lonetraveler
04-23-2010, 09:22 PM
Not sure of their exact whereabouts today but hank was caught on camera during the search at the dock a few days ago stating he couldn't tell them anything if LE wasn't telling them anything( about the search, to a reporter)

Lisa C cannot leave the county( remember in the jail tapes we heard that they weren't letting her visit Misty, or leaving to visit their grandchildren with Lyndsy) so I am doubtful that Hank and Lisa have left Putnam County. I remember hearing them talking about LP helping them get a start in Cali as well...but to my knowledge they haven't gone anywhere. I believe Hank Sr still has charges to answer up to as well. HTH

Thanks, that is why I thought the story about them being in California was doubtful. I was also thinking that they could not leave the county.

PS. Elle, do you ever sleep? LOL.

elle1919
04-23-2010, 09:28 PM
Thanks, that is why I thought the story about them being in California was doubtful. I was also thinking that they could not leave the county.

PS. Elle, do you ever sleep? LOL.

lol.....Of course I do. Tonight though I am scared to lay down because the weather forecast is calling for severe storms and tornadoes...(Alabama)

4Jacy
04-23-2010, 09:32 PM
Sorry 4Jacy, I would like to help you on this one but only know of rumors that Crystal had a life insurance policy on Haleigh, I don't know if there was ever confirmation of anything. I saw your question but didn't answer because honestly I think the answer is no...but have no way of knowing for certain. HTH

Thanks elle, so very much. I also heard the same thing. Perhaps it was rumor, perhaps it was truth, perhaps (from the moment Haliegh was born) the doctor's advised Crystal to take out life insurance on little Haleigh. All I want to know is: WHEN, WHY? And how much was it for.
tia

Native Pride
04-24-2010, 01:37 PM
my mind is going crazy i want this sweet baby girl home ....

question ......

is it true or false mc slept with rc uncle

if true was the uncle incarserated at the time of hc disappearance ....

what is his past criminal history if we know at all

is he incarserated now if so is he in the gp that ron could see and talk too

is rc dad incarcerated too.......

what ever came of rc neighbor/friend that use to come here

and snowgrass i think was his name was official ruled out correct?

im sure non of these questions are any importance to this investigation but im trying to think out of the circle of all the players we have so far or has it been hashed out the circle is the players but we just dony know which ones

Pondering Mind
04-24-2010, 02:11 PM
HELP!

I don't know if anyone has the answers but I have been trying to separate some facts from fiction for my own sanity..

Has it ever been confirmed by LE or RELIABLE sources that..

(1) Jr. heard/saw the couch bouncing?

(2) Jr. saw a man in black?

(3) Jr. heard squeaky shoes?

(4) HaLeighs' nebulizer (sp?) and/or necklace was missing?

dang, I had more questions, but can't remember them at the moment..will be back when I do...TIA to anyone who has these answers!

Pondering Mind
04-24-2010, 02:16 PM
Native Pride, I've never heard that about Ron's uncle, so IDK?

His father was arrested (I *think*) recently for something, but don't believe that he's incarcerated..

'player' is the name/nic of Ron's neighbor and friend that used to post here. I haven't heard from him in awhile now..

yes, Snodgrass afaik anyway, has been completely ruled out..


I know that's not much help, but that's all I know..

Donjeta
04-24-2010, 02:25 PM
HELP!

I don't know if anyone has the answers but I have been trying to separate some facts from fiction for my own sanity..

Has it ever been confirmed by LE or RELIABLE sources that..

(1) Jr. heard/saw the couch bouncing?

(2) Jr. saw a man in black?

(3) Jr. heard squeaky shoes?

(4) HaLeighs' nebulizer (sp?) and/or necklace was missing?

dang, I had more questions, but can't remember them at the moment..will be back when I do...TIA to anyone who has these answers!

I don't recall LE making any comments about these things. Crystal told about Jr's story but it seemed to change or expand a bit in the telling and Annette Sykes said that Jr. had been interviewed in the beginning and he'd said something. I got the impression she either didn't take it seriously or wanted to play it down. After Crystal and Jr. were on Geraldo there were some outraged comments that he might be put in danger because of his appearance so it might be it was taken seriously after all (why would he be in danger if he told he'd seen somebody who doesn't exist?)

TN came out with the missing item first and LE commented that they were not aware of what she was talking about. AFAIK it has never been confirmed officially what it was.

Donjeta
04-24-2010, 02:40 PM
RC's father has Putnam county court records for traffic citations and felony littering, a scheme to defraud, trespass after warning and a battery case that ended in "no information". I don't know about other counties.
http://www.putnam-fl.com/coc

Pondering Mind
04-24-2010, 02:44 PM
I don't recall LE making any comments about these things. Crystal told about Jr's story but it seemed to change or expand a bit in the telling and Annette Sykes said that Jr. had been interviewed in the beginning and he'd said something. I got the impression she either didn't take it seriously or wanted to play it down. After Crystal and Jr. were on Geraldo there were some outraged comments that he might be put in danger because of his appearance so it might be it was taken seriously after all (why would he be in danger if he told he'd seen somebody who doesn't exist?)

TN came out with the missing item first and LE commented that they were not aware of what she was talking about. AFAIK it has never been confirmed officially what it was.

TY! That's what I thought, but I keep seeing posts discussing it like it was FACT and it's been driving me crazy! ...If LE had interviewed Jr and a professional had said that he saw/heard these things, I could believe it, but it can be so easy to lead a very young child to say something that's not true, or to misinterpret what they are saying, even if one has the best intentions...ie/trying to question him to find out what happened...

OT :angel:, but all my grandchildren have wild imaginations, (((LOVE THEM))) but one granddaughter in particular takes the cake! She is almost 5 and some of the stuff she comes up with is outrageous, lol! ..and it comes from nowhere! She got that from her daddy..

Crosby87
04-24-2010, 11:01 PM
Does Tommy Croslin have a tattoo? We know Timmy, Ron, & Hank Sr do. TIA

Forensic fan
04-25-2010, 07:19 AM
I was reading the laundry thread and wondered if they can get DNA from dryer lint, from either the lint trap or the vent. Do they check this? And can they differentiate between blood DNA and other types such as skin cells or saliva which would normally be found in laundry?

Lexington
04-25-2010, 08:10 AM
I heard that RC requested that he be moved into gen pop. Was this request granted and is he now in gen pop. Sorry if this was asked and answered already.

elle1919
04-25-2010, 09:51 AM
I heard that RC requested that he be moved into gen pop. Was this request granted and is he now in gen pop. Sorry if this was asked and answered already.

Terry Shoemaker reported that he(RC) asked to be moved into general population and he was granted it, we heard this the day( or the very next day, can't recall) but right on the time that LE called the family in to tell them about the river search and that they believed Haleigh was dead.

So he was moved to general pop back not sure if he has stayed out of trouble and remained there. Misty must have been prett-y ticked off when she about that one.

elle1919
04-25-2010, 10:01 AM
I was reading the laundry thread and wondered if they can get DNA from dryer lint, from either the lint trap or the vent. Do they check this? And can they differentiate between blood DNA and other types such as skin cells or saliva which would normally be found in laundry?

Great question! I know that dryer lint contains skin cells, lots of them, but how does the heat affect them and how do you separate them from the other family members cells to extract DNA? How could we be sure that the lint is from the load of laundry just washed? I am certain some particles adhere to the sides of the vent and come loose with time to end up on the screen.

I don't know.....this seems like a very complex process. I have read about getting DNA or biological fluids from a washer vent/screen......maybe because it hadn't reached temperature needed to dry the clothes?

ATWC66
04-25-2010, 10:05 AM
Since my mind has become a bit fried on this case, can you kindly remind me who/what these initials stand for? (I searched for a link, but could not find it. lol) AS & PDM
Thank You.~ATWC66

LiveLaughLuv
04-25-2010, 10:11 AM
Since my mind has become a bit fried on this case, can you kindly remind me who/what these initials stand for? (I searched for a link, but could not find it. lol) AS & PDM
Thank You.~ATWC66

AS-Annette Sykes

PDM- Company RC was working at when HaLeigh was allegedly abducted...

elle1919
04-25-2010, 10:14 AM
Since my mind has become a bit fried on this case, can you kindly remind me who/what these initials stand for? (I searched for a link, but could not find it. lol) AS & PDM
Thank You.~ATWC66

AS = Annette Sykes

PDM, I believe you are referring to PDM Bridge, the place that RC worked when Haleigh went missing. he no longer works there by the way. Not sure what the initials themselves mean....I know that many use PDM as an acronym for Product Data Management, but I don't see that fitting in this instance. HTH

Forensic fan
04-25-2010, 10:15 AM
Since my mind has become a bit fried on this case, can you kindly remind me who/what these initials stand for? (I searched for a link, but could not find it. lol) AS & PDM
Thank You.~ATWC66


AS is Annette Sykes, Ron's Grandma = GGMS or GGS
PDM is where Ron worked, I forget the whole name of the company

elle1919
04-25-2010, 10:26 AM
AS is Annette Sykes, Ron's Grandma = GGMS or GGS
PDM is where Ron worked, I forget the whole name of the company

http://www.pdmbridge.com/index.cfm?event=DisplayContentPieceById&contentPieceId=442

maybe Pitt-Des Moines?