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SuziQ
02-21-2010, 08:22 PM
Found this afternoon by hikers on the Right Fork. I am familiar with a private residence/ranch on the Left Fork.

Copy and pasted from sunnydee's original post. Thank you sunnydee!

New story breaking - a body was found in Utah County by hikers

http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=76782 (http://connect2utah.com/content/news/story/?cid=76782)

Not much details yet.

link about hobble creek (location where the body was found)

http://www.wildernessutah.com/advent...bblecreek.html (http://www.wildernessutah.com/adventure/hobblecreek.html)

passionflower
02-21-2010, 08:25 PM
How many missing people are in that area of Utah besides Susan?
Locals please let us know everything on this! Thanks

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 08:27 PM
I keep watching for KSL to post the story. If we can weed through the trolls we might find a local near Hobblecreek with more info.

I was in Provo Canyon last weekend and it's in the same mountain range as Hobblecreek. There was quite a bit of snow as there probably is in Hobblecreek.

Dr. Know?
02-21-2010, 08:30 PM
I posted this before but it's about 58 miles from where Susan lived via google maps.

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 08:33 PM
The SL Trib has picked up the story and there are some comments. Nothing earth shattering.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14445078

Solstice Canyon
02-21-2010, 08:33 PM
Thanks, Dr. Know?

That's what I had just discovered as well after looking at Mapquest.

sunnydee
02-21-2010, 08:38 PM
How many missing people are in that area of Utah besides Susan?
Locals please let us know everything on this! Thanks

I know that there has been some media coverage on a missing man (I think he disappeared about the same time as Susan, but didn't get anywhere around the same amount of media attention.)

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14327815 (found an old article) He is from further South in Utah.

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 08:40 PM
Utah's missing persons.

http://www.des.utah.gov/bci/UTAHmissingpersons.html

gwenabob
02-21-2010, 08:46 PM
Well, if Josh is packing the car for a "trip to the Olympics" right now, we know it is probably her!

passionflower
02-21-2010, 08:47 PM
Since this find is by a river, could the snow be melting or the river moving now?
We had 40 " of snow and the last couple days we have hit 34 degrees and sunny.
The sun has melted allot of our snow. We still have some very bad spots too.

passionflower
02-21-2010, 08:50 PM
The SL Trib has picked up the story and there are some comments. Nothing earth shattering.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14445078

Did anyone read all the comments???
allot of people think it may be Susan.
Do we have locals with scanners there????

passionflower
02-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Utah's missing persons.

http://www.des.utah.gov/bci/UTAHmissingpersons.html

oh my so many missing...............

Solstice Canyon
02-21-2010, 08:58 PM
oh my so many missing...............

Wow, you weren't kidding. :(

ETA: If I counted correctly, there are 61 or 62.

sandcastles4me
02-21-2010, 09:04 PM
Well if it is a body and not skeletal remains than it narrows it down a bit. Susan went missing when it was snowing and her body should be pretty well preserved due to the freezing temps.

passionflower
02-21-2010, 09:06 PM
R.I.P whoever the person is!!
Some family will have closure now.

passionflower
02-21-2010, 09:08 PM
all the news reports so far say BODY and not skeletal remains????

fhc
02-21-2010, 09:15 PM
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_426a06d0-1f4f-11df-9e6a-001cc4c03286.html

A body was found near Jolley's Ranch in Hobble Creek Canyon Sunday on county land, the Utah County Sheriff's Department said. No gender, name or cause of death have been announced. The circumstances are suspicious

Solstice Canyon
02-21-2010, 09:22 PM
If the hikers just happened to come across this body, and if it does turn out to be Susan's, I will be somewhat surprised. I've always figured Josh's extremely red hands following Susan's disappearance indicated in some way or another that he had gone to extreme measures to conceal her.

Talison
02-21-2010, 09:24 PM
If the hikers just happened to come across this body, and if it does turn out to be Susan's, I will be somewhat surprised. I've always figured Josh's extremely red hands following Susan's disappearance indicated in some way or another that he had gone to extreme measures to conceal her.

From the link fhc posted:

"The area was off-road, not accessible by vehicle, and would take "several minutes to access it by hiking or snowshoeing," he said."

Would that count as extreme measures?

momtective
02-21-2010, 09:26 PM
Praying that the body can be quickly identified and that nature has preserved DNA evidence so justice can be served swiftly.

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 09:30 PM
Per SP's facebook, WVCPD says this body is not Susan's.

mrsc72
02-21-2010, 09:31 PM
may not be Susan...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=mf&gid=198478842187

Solstice Canyon
02-21-2010, 09:32 PM
From the link fhc posted:

"The area was off-road, not accessible by vehicle, and would take "several minutes to access it by hiking or snowshoeing," he said."

Would that count as extreme measures?

Could, particularly given the weather conditions at that time.

However, I'm still perplexed by the red hands. I had always pictured him having done something really out-of-the-ordinary to her.

sunnydee
02-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Seems odd that Facebook could scoop the news that the person was definitely not Susan, before tv and papers could even find out the gender of the body. I don't know how they know that for sure so quickly, unless the body is of a different race or gender.

darlin gal
02-21-2010, 10:00 PM
Seems odd that Facebook could scoop the news that the person was definitely not Susan, before tv and papers could even find out the gender of the body. I don't know how they know that for sure so quickly, unless the body is of a different race or gender.

Or different age, different hair color/length or it could be remains in a later stage of decomposition that was Susan would be in.

Family was in contact with LE. That is how they scooped TV and the papers.

HollyHawk
02-21-2010, 10:05 PM
From the missing person's list there is only one other missing girl from that area last year: Madeline Baker, age 17, runway. Last seen at her high school in Provo last September, which is 17 miles from where Canyon road splits to Right Hand Fork.
Madeline is 4'10", 108 lbs, and from the photo she has hair quite a bit longer than Susan's. She was wearing charcoal slacks, black top, black shoes and had a black back pack. Wearing silver necklace. Scar on right elbow.
Whoever this person is who was found this afternoon, my heart goes out to her/him and the family.

sunnydee
02-21-2010, 10:10 PM
It is a popular recreational spot, and isnt far from the road so I would think the chances of the person having been there since September would be less likely than someone who has been there not very long. It is so sad that there are so many missing people, and unsolved cases.

gwenabob
02-21-2010, 10:28 PM
SPRINGVILLE Sheriff's deputies have confirmed that the body of a 25- to 35-year-old woman was found by hikers in Hobble Creek Canyon on Sunday.

The call came in to Utah County Sheriff's dispatchers about 4:10 p.m. that a body was found on the side of the road about 3 to 4 miles from the mouth of the canyon. Investigators are calling the circumstances "suspicious" but wouldn't disclose details.

Investigators have been trying to reach the body by snowmobile or hiking for removal.

When asked whether the body could be that of Susan Powell the missing West Valley City mother of two, Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon said they're pretty certain the body is not that of Powell, who has been gone for more than two months.

"It's not connected to any missing person cases that we know about at this time," he said.

More information will be posted on deseretnews.com as it becomes available.

Lana Groves

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011086/Deputies-say-female-body-found-in-Hobble-Creek-Canyon-unlikely-that-of-Susan-Powell.html

darlin gal
02-21-2010, 10:28 PM
When asked whether the body could be that of Susan Powell the missing West Valley City mother of two, Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon said they're pretty certain the body is not that of Powell, who has been gone for more than two months.
"It's not connected to any missing person cases that we know about at this time," he said.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011086/Deputies-call-circumstances-involving-body-found-in-Hobble-Creek-Canyon-suspicious.html

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Sounds like body recovery won't be that easy. Also a comment about the ID.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011086/Deputies-call-circumstances-involving-body-found-in-Hobble-Creek-Canyon-suspicious.html


(snip)
Investigators have been trying to reach the body by snowmobile or hiking for removal. Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon said the age and gender of the body is not being released yet.
When asked whether the body could be that of Susan Powell the missing West Valley City mother of two. Cannon would only say that if that is determined, they would contact authorities in West Valley.

crimejunkie
02-21-2010, 10:32 PM
Just thought I would map out the route to Josh's house to Hobble Creek and Pony Express where he said he was. May not be her body, but was curious to see the distances and thought I'd share for anyone else that was also interested. This is my first time doing this map stuff and posting it here, so hope I did it right!! :)


Here's the link. Does anyone know how to copy and paste it right into a message? I couldn't figure it out. The general cut and paste didn't work for me.

http://www.mapquest.com/mq/4-hbmCMll85sK2

Thanks!

crimejunkie
02-21-2010, 10:34 PM
Oops! Guess the map doesn't matter much now, as I am reading your posts above that suggests the body isn't Susan. Sorry!!

SuziQ
02-21-2010, 10:37 PM
Oops! Guess the map doesn't matter much now, as I am reading your posts above that suggests the body isn't Susan. Sorry!!

You did very good on the map though. :)

Tricia
02-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Oops! Guess the map doesn't matter much now, as I am reading your posts above that suggests the body isn't Susan. Sorry!!

We appreciate the work and it does not go unnoticed. Thank you.

Tricia

passionflower
02-21-2010, 10:49 PM
Maybe who ever dumped this lady did it from road since it is so hard to reach.............
female in Susan's age group............atleast we know sex and age group

passionflower
02-21-2010, 10:51 PM
LE may not give out ID til they corner Josh, you know he may pack up............

mrsc72
02-21-2010, 10:53 PM
LE may not give out ID til they corner Josh, you know he may pack up............

I was thinking the same thing. Regardless, it's a sad day for someone's loved ones

sunnydee
02-21-2010, 11:21 PM
http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-hikers-find-body-in-utah-county-canyon,0,6452894.story

Although other sources are stating that law enforcement says it isn't Susan; this station says the person was female and in their 20's and 30's. Hopefully they will have this solve before long.

My6
02-22-2010, 12:05 AM
I think they haven't confirmed anything yet.. and until they do... It still could be her. I am waiting till they say it isn't for sure, because you know they will let people know with as much speculation as there is out there about this case. IMO

sunnydee
02-22-2010, 12:07 AM
Just a guess, but I think if the police are feeling confident that this is not Susan - it is likely because the person was not dead for very long.

My6
02-22-2010, 12:26 AM
Heres the latest one I could find

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9769056

Zoe Bogart
02-22-2010, 12:26 AM
Oops! Guess the map doesn't matter much now, as I am reading your posts above that suggests the body isn't Susan. Sorry!!

You showed us the area of the finding, so no matter, that's a good thing. Thanks.

It's a shame, whoever she is.

sunnydee
02-22-2010, 12:30 AM
having hearing aids in both ears, and having been there for several days (rather than a couple of months) would seem to make it easy to rule out Susan.

I hope this young lady's killer(s) are found and brought to justice.

Zoe Bogart
02-22-2010, 12:31 AM
Heres the latest one I could find

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9769056


Sgt. Cannon told KSL the woman had hearing aids in both ears and she is likely from the area. He also said the body appears to have been there for several days.

That's how they knew it isn't Susan.

LaLaw2000
02-22-2010, 11:21 AM
As I really do not think Susan is alive, I was hoping that her body had been found.

This poor girl/woman has a family somewhere and my sympathy goes out to them. At least they can give her a dignified burial. GB them all.

ohiogirl
02-22-2010, 02:07 PM
Arrest made in connection with found body.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700011221/Arrest-in-discovered-body-case.html

ohiogirl
02-22-2010, 02:09 PM
A little more info here.
http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News/NewsDetails.asp?ID=79651

nitasch
02-22-2010, 02:32 PM
Not Susan, it is a woman named Amy Candlin (not sure of the spelling, I will go look for a print article)

ETA

The victim in this case is Amy Candland, age 41, of Provo. Amy is an aunt to the supect in this case, Damien Candland.

PickieChickie
02-22-2010, 02:43 PM
UTAH COUNTY -- Police in Utah County have released the name of a woman whose body was found in Hobble Creek Canyon Sunday afternoon.

She is 41-year-old Amy Candland. Monday morning, police arrested her nephew on suspicion of murder.

Damien Allister Candland, 22, was booked into the Utah County Jail on one charge of aggravated murder.

The woman's body was found Sunday afternoon in Hobble Creek Canyon Canyon east of Springville. The investigation continued overnight. Police were led to a home in Provo where they served a search warrant. They did not immediately say what they may have found at the residence.

Police believe the woman may have been dead for several days.

Sgt. Spencer Cannon of the Utah County Sheriff's Office said, "Some of the evidence at the scene that helped us to collect information was based on the amount of snow and what was found in the snow. So it wouldn't have been months or even weeks but a couple of days, give or take a few."

She had not been reported missing. Her body has been taken to the state medical examiner's office for an autopsy.

The suspect will appear in court for a bail hearing Tuesday morning.

Police have not released details on how the woman was killed, where she died and what circumstances led them to book Candland for aggravated murder. They may release more information later today. Stay with KSL for updates as they are available.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9770938

gitana1
02-22-2010, 04:04 PM
Although I wish we could have a wonderful miracle from God and find Susan alive, sadly, I don't think that is a possibility in this case. So, the next thing I wish for is the recovery of her body and the arrest of josh. When I saw the thread, I was saddened but satisfied that the case may be coming close to resolution. Unfortunately, it turns out it was some other, poor person that had been killed. I should not be surprised but I like to think there are not enough crimes like this in any given area. So, when a body is found in Utah, I assume it is Susan. The fact that not only one but two bodies have been recovered in Utah since Susan went missing, neither of them her, speaks volumes about how screwed up our society is, I think.
I hope Susan is found soon.

LaLaw2000
02-22-2010, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the updates. I am very happy to see an arrest in Ms. Candland's murder.