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BeanE
02-27-2010, 07:06 AM
Gabriel Johnson's family has been in touch with Leonard Padilla. (See Gabe's facebook Bring Gabriel Home under comments made 10 hours ago from the time of this post by family member Kelli: http://en-gb.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=share&gid=251236072296)

I know many of you are familiar with Leonard and his involvement in other cases :eek:

Now, we don't know what Gabe's family is discussing with Leonard, but if it happens to be whether LP should offer to bail out Elizabeth, what do you think of that? :doh:

Vote yay or nay on a bail offer in the poll, and then jump in the thread and give your thoughts on the benefits or disadvantages of LP's involvement in this case, whatever that involvement may come to be.

I expect this may be a lively thread :woohoo:

Please keep in mind that Gabe's family reads here, and that this is a very hard time for them, as they search for their much-loved baby boy.

Thanks for participating!
BeanE

mydailyopinions
02-27-2010, 07:30 AM
No! I don't think LP should bail out Elizabeth. I guess because I firmly believe that if EJ was going to spill anything useful, Gabriel would be home with Logan now, or his body would have already been found.


My hopes are that if the family are asking for LP's involvement, it is in a way that will benefit Gabriel, such as donating to the reward to bring him home, or information leading to him. Surely the family has seen how LP offers to throw his money away on people such as Misty and Casey...maybe this could give him a chance to put his money where his mouth is and honestly help bring a child home where at least the family is desperately out there searching...

smart blonde
02-27-2010, 07:50 AM
Absolutely not- no, no, no!

I like Padilla as a person well enough- but, he needs to stay out of the way and let law enforcement do their job.

Bailing Elizabeth out would produce the exact same results as bailing Casey Anthony out- meaning no results at all.

Can't Padilla find other ways to get the publicity he seems to crave? Like, write a book, or something? (Hey, Leonard- write a book! I'll buy it).

Let Elizabeth spend the rest of her life in prison for what she has done to Gabriel and Logan. She's right where she belongs!

smart blonde
02-27-2010, 07:54 AM
I'll tell you what- if I thought there was even the slightest chance that Elizabeth would tell the truth about what she did to/with Gabriel, and where he can be found now, I might have given a different answer.

But, she would have to give up that information first, and Gabriel would have to be located first, and that is just not going to happen.

DairyGirl
02-27-2010, 07:55 AM
I voted no but the only possibility I can see is if EJ gives up the location of Gabriel before she is released. Kind of like the offer he says he has for Misty. No baby, no bail. She claims she is not helping find him now because she will have to spend 20 years in jail even if he does come home but if she could help find him maybe they would go easier on her during the sentencing. I really don't care if she is in jail or not as long as Gabriel comes home.

BeanE
02-27-2010, 08:03 AM
I voted no but the only possibility I can see is if EJ gives up the location of Gabriel before she is released. Kind of like the offer he says he has for Misty. No baby, no bail. She claims she is not helping find him now because she will have to spend 20 years in jail even if he does come home but if she could help find him maybe they would go easier on her during the sentencing. I really don't care if she is in jail or not as long as Gabriel comes home.

No baby, no bail. I love that.

What if she harmed Gabe. Should LP bail her out if she gives up the location of Gabe's body?

DairyGirl
02-27-2010, 08:04 AM
No baby, no bail. I love that.

What if she harmed Gabe. Should LP bail her out if she gives up the location of Gabe's body?

I don't know what good it would do. Wouldn't she just be arrested for murder as soon as the body was found? No incentive to confess to that. If she did do the unthinkable I don't see any way she would do that. She is better off taking her chances on the kidnapping charges.

BeanE
02-27-2010, 08:07 AM
What if she gave up information that led LE directly to a live, well, healthy, and physically unharmed and unexploited Gabe? Should LP then put bail $$$ for her?

What if she gave up info that led LE directly to a poorly taken care of, or hurt (but alive), or exploited Gabe? Should LP then put the bail $$$ up?

BeanE
02-27-2010, 08:10 AM
I don't know what good it would do. Wouldn't she just be arrested for murder as soon as the body was found? No incentive to confess to that. If she did do the unthinkable I don't see any way she would do that. She is better off taking her chances on the kidnapping charges.

Well now that I think about it, they'd just charge her with homicide and not let her out bail or no bail on the current charges.

Never mind. I need coffee. I'd also like a donut.

b4e
02-27-2010, 08:25 AM
EJ has already stated that she is looking at 20 years, no matter what. She strikes me as being very self-serving and if it doesn't benefit EJ to talk, she will keep her mouth shut - which is what she's done so far. If she were freed on bail, I still don't see her as willing to say or do anything that could tack more time onto her sentence.

If I am wrong about her motives being self-serving (if she truly believes she did the best she could for Gabe by giving him away), then she would still not be willing to give up the information. In my eyes and MOO, though, she is looking out for herself and herself only. Either way, I don't think she will talk.

Please pass the donuts.

passionflower
02-27-2010, 11:28 AM
Nope, let her rot in jail til she tells the truth!!!

2goldfish
02-27-2010, 11:30 AM
flat out no baby no bail. him bailing casey anthony out accpmplished absolutely nothing. it will accomplish nothing here. I am pretty sure that a grand jury would be happy to bring forth a murder change and if the baby is alive, that will be the only thing to get her to talk IMO.

I dont know about yall but I am pretty sure that if my 3 yo went missing and I texted my husband to say I had killed him - I'd be all up on a murder charge.

like the rest of you, I want this baby brought home to his dad but momma aint talking til she's really worried.

Kimberlyd125
02-27-2010, 11:33 AM
LP should go back to his normal business and leave all these high profile cases alone.
IMO he does more harm than good.

He does this for the spotlight.

artsy1
02-27-2010, 11:50 AM
First, even though Leonard has been involved with bailing women out of jail, he is not a bail bondsman - he's a bounty hunter. I think he said Rob Dick is his nephew - and Rob is the bail bondsman. So, it's possible that Gabe's family COULD be talking to Leonard from the bounty hunter standpoint.

Second, I think EJ has told the truth - to an extent. I honestly don't think that she knows who took him or where he is - I think she may have been told one thing, and then something else happened, since I STILL firmly believe that TS orchestrated this whole thing.

IF EJ is bailed out, I think it should be on terms of getting her to explain why she went to the salon, the laundromat, etc. :twocents:

BeanE
02-27-2010, 12:34 PM
Bounty hunter out after whoever's holding Gabe. That's an interesting thought.

What else could LP be offering to do in this case? He offered to buy the property where Caylee's remains were found. Now he's offering to help Caylee's grandparents on their foreclosure. No home or property in Gabe's case though.

artsy1
02-27-2010, 12:37 PM
Well, the other thing is that LP and TM of Texas Equisearch are friends. Maybe LP is trying to convince TM to take the case, since I'm sure after TM got burned by CA's family, he's probably a little reluctant to take on a high profile case again. :twocents:

TXHOPE
02-27-2010, 01:05 PM
He's a bounty hunter!!! Why doesn't he go hunt down the location of where Gabriel is at instead of bailing EJ out. At this point I don't think EJ knows where he is. I think she could help by telling the truth on what really happened but she probably, by choice, does not know the exact location of where Gabriel is right now. She didn't even want to know where TS lived. Even if she does talk what will her motivation be if she's out of jail? If she talks, she'll go right back to jail. Once she gets out, what are they going to do? Follow her? Trace her calls? She's smarter than that. Don't bail her out! Let her rot!

not_my_kids
02-27-2010, 01:41 PM
I don't think it's a good idea. If she killed him, she'll never tell. If she sold or gave him away, I doubt she has any more info. She would only muddy the waters.

kappy50
02-27-2010, 02:07 PM
If LM and his family have spoke to LP about this, and they feel he can help, then far be it from me to think otherwise......whatever they feel they have to do I'm 100% behind them, whether I agree or disagree....JMO

Angel Who Cares
02-27-2010, 02:21 PM
Bounty hunter out after whoever's holding Gabe. That's an interesting thought.

What else could LP be offering to do in this case? He offered to buy the property where Caylee's remains were found. Now he's offering to help Caylee's grandparents on their foreclosure. No home or property in Gabe's case though.

Well, the other thing is that LP and TM of Texas Equisearch are friends. Maybe LP is trying to convince TM to take the case, since I'm sure after TM got burned by CA's family, he's probably a little reluctant to take on a high profile case again. :twocents:

It would be nice if this is why he is in contact with them. I voted yes with strick rules etc.....only because I hope & pray that Gabe was given away, by EJ to an underground adoption group. The other choice is that he is no longer with us & EJ in NO way will ever reveal this information to LP.

I would also love for TES to come help or give advice to the family & searchers! I know Tim's wife is very ill with cancer, & isn't being active in any searches, he is spending time with his wife for an unknown length of time. He does have a head team handling any new/old cases, searches, & day to day decisions.

Only for these reasons did I vote yes w/stipulations etc.! I'm not 100% convinced on bailing EJ out, but to come help Logan search for Gabe....The more eyes the better to help find him!

If anything LP does bring media attention & I feel that "Our Little Angel Gabriel isn't getting enough coverage. If an underground adoption took place the whole world needs to know little Gabe's face & that he is missing!

:prayer: :rose: Prayers For Gabe & All Of His Loved Ones! :rose: :prayer:

:angel:

Kimberlyd125
02-27-2010, 02:23 PM
Bounty hunter out after whoever's holding Gabe. That's an interesting thought.

What else could LP be offering to do in this case? He offered to buy the property where Caylee's remains were found. Now he's offering to help Caylee's grandparents on their foreclosure. No home or property in Gabe's case though.


And, didn't LP buy Misty Croslin's father a used car recently?

kappy50
02-27-2010, 02:26 PM
It would be nice if this is why he is in contact with them. I voted yes with strick rules etc.....only because I hope & pray that Gabe was given away, by EJ to an underground adoption group. The other choice is that he is no longer with us & EJ in NO way will ever reveal this information to LP.

I would also love for TES to come help or give advice to the family & searchers! I know Tim's wife is very ill with cancer, & isn't being active in any searches, he is spending time with his wife for an unknown length of time. He does have a head team handling any new/old cases, searches, & day to day decisions.

Only for these reasons did I vote yes w/stipulations etc.! I'm not 100% convinced on bailing EJ out, but to come help Logan search for Gabe....The more eyes the better to help find him!

If anything LP does bring media attention & I feel that "Our Little Angel Gabriel isn't getting enough coverage. If an underground adoption took place the whole world needs to know little Gabe's face & that he is missing!

:prayer: :rose: Prayers For Gabe & All Of His Loved Ones! :rose: :prayer:

:angel:

Perfectly said Angel!!!! Sorry to hear about Tim's wife...did not know...Prayers be with them!

hotmomma35
02-27-2010, 02:40 PM
I really don't see any point of LP getting EJ out of jail. she will only make up some lie to get bonded out and it serves no point. Why does LP bail out these women??? its not gonna make them tell the truth cause they are sick women and if they care at all about their babies, they wouldn't be in all this mess in the first place. I say get out of the way LP and let PD do there job....

Salem
02-27-2010, 02:55 PM
No baby, no bail. I love that.

What if she harmed Gabe. Should LP bail her out if she gives up the location of Gabe's body?

I say a deal is a deal and actually, I like this deal. No baby, no bail. If she harmed Gabe, but tells where he is and the baby is found, then yes, even then she can be bailed out. If she did harm Gabe, her time out will be short and will end with her conviction for harming Gabe. I could stand her out for a few months if it meant that Gabe could be home, whatever the circumstances.

Salem

Salem
02-27-2010, 02:58 PM
I really don't see any point of LP getting EJ out of jail. she will only make up some lie to get bonded out and it serves no point. Why does LP bail out these women??? its not gonna make them tell the truth cause they are sick women and if they care at all about their babies, they wouldn't be in all this mess in the first place. I say get out of the way LP and let PD do there job....

Actually I think he only bailed out Casey, right? Now he is talking with Misty. I really think LP does it with the intent of bringing the child home. Yes, there is publicity involved and he does seem to enjoy it. But I think he learned a valuable lesson when he bailed out Casey and she told him to stick it in his ear. That wasn't the deal. Casey was supposed to produce Caylee :(

So now, if he changes his method to child first, bail second and the child comes home, I could live with that.

Salem

I do agree with all the points about the media circus.

BeanE
02-27-2010, 03:12 PM
Well, the other thing is that LP and TM of Texas Equisearch are friends. Maybe LP is trying to convince TM to take the case, since I'm sure after TM got burned by CA's family, he's probably a little reluctant to take on a high profile case again. :twocents:

LP and Tim are friends again? That's interesting. I didn't realize that.

Caylee's family and Gabe's family are polar opposites. Gabe's family is lovely - warm, caring, loving, supportive, open, honest, insightful, perceptive, and they conduct themselves with admirable dignity and grace. I have no doubts that if the time should come that Tim may get involved in Gabe's case, that he and Gabe's family will end up being good friends.

artsy1
02-27-2010, 03:53 PM
LP and Tim are friends again? That's interesting. I didn't realize that.

Caylee's family and Gabe's family are polar opposites. Gabe's family is lovely - warm, caring, loving, supportive, open, honest, insightful, perceptive, and they conduct themselves with admirable dignity and grace. I have no doubts that if the time should come that Tim may get involved in Gabe's case, that he and Gabe's family will end up being good friends.

I hadn't heard that LP and TM weren't friends. I'll stop posting now. :truce:

BeanE
02-27-2010, 04:19 PM
I hadn't heard that LP and TM weren't friends. I'll stop posting now. :truce:

lol Don't stop posting!!!! There was a problem a while back in Caylee's case. They may very well have resolved things and be friends. I just haven't followed what happened with it.

momtective
02-27-2010, 04:30 PM
I think the money would be better spent on a huge reward for the information leading to the safe return of Gabriel.

CathyinTexas
02-27-2010, 05:59 PM
EJ has already stated that she is looking at 20 years, no matter what. She strikes me as being very self-serving and if it doesn't benefit EJ to talk, she will keep her mouth shut - which is what she's done so far. If she were freed on bail, I still don't see her as willing to say or do anything that could tack more time onto her sentence.

If I am wrong about her motives being self-serving (if she truly believes she did the best she could for Gabe by giving him away), then she would still not be willing to give up the information. In my eyes and MOO, though, she is looking out for herself and herself only. Either way, I don't think she will talk.

Please pass the donuts.

Well, if baby Gabriel is alive and was given to someone, and she divulged exactly who has him, then I think they should "cut a deal" and honor it. His Dad needs him, and it should be worth it even if she didn't receive a just punishment. So LP's involvement in a scenario such this is welcome in my opinion.

mysticrose
02-27-2010, 10:08 PM
I believe LP has a big heart and is a good guy. Baling EJ out on strict terms would be best. First the baby and then you get out. If she knows where baby gabe is they would work a plea deal with her, she would not have to do 20 years.
EJ herself said that she would just sit it out, she is they type of person IMO that can mold to whatever situation put in front of her, so I see no problem with her dealing with lockdown.
I am suprised at how bull headed she is, I really thought by now she would talk to someone. With our luck she just may have a bad attorney advising her wrong, they are out there, I know, I have had 2 that made things worse for me because they did not understand the laws fully or were just pansie's :)

Anyhow maybe Gabe's family is just asking him for help in tracking Baby Gabe down. He already has JJ on his team why not add LP they are both good at what they do and have their own unique contacts and abilities...Go Team Gabe !!!

Elphaba
02-27-2010, 10:17 PM
I see on the Facebook page a family member has been in contact with LP and hopes LP and Logan can work something out. I hope somebody has a "come to Jesus" talk with them about LP before he ends up on their lawn handing out his bounty hunter trading cards and doing autograph sessions and using Gabriel for media attention as he makes up his own theories and presenting them as his form of "facts".

Oh, and no, he should not bail EJ out...

Elphaba
02-27-2010, 10:38 PM
I highly doubt LP is trying to get TM to take the case... for one, TM has long distanced himself from LP, and 2: his wife is his main priority, right now, as she battles cancer... there is a letter floating around from TES about Tim stepping away to focus on her and her battle with cancer.

Pondering Mind
02-27-2010, 10:44 PM
I happen to like LP, but WTH is he doing? First it was Casey Anthony, then trying to get Misty Cummings and possibly her brother bonded out. He DID bond out Misty's mother (for something completely unrelated)..now Elizabeth?

Hold Up Leonard..you're supposed to be a Good Guy!

I'd be willing to bet EJ doesn't want out anyway. Then people would be able to ask her questions. Like KC Anthony, I believe that she is thrilled not to have to keep up a pretense. jmo tho..

txsvicki
02-27-2010, 11:37 PM
I say heck no, LP should not bail out that woman. She's proven that she doesn't care and it could even put Logan in danger for her to be out on the loose. She can help from jail if she chooses to, which of course she doesn't seem to have done so far.

LogicalMinds
02-28-2010, 11:21 AM
I have zero respect for Padilla..

I don't think bailing her out will do any good, bailing out Casey didn't accomplish anything except to provide Padilla a lot of media attention that he loves

I have no idea why they would even talk with Padilla...

start the circus...bring in the clowns.....buy your popcorn here

LCoastMom
02-28-2010, 06:55 PM
I believe LP has a big heart and is a good guy. Baling EJ out on strict terms would be best. First the baby and then you get out. If she knows where baby gabe is they would work a plea deal with her, she would not have to do 20 years.
EJ herself said that she would just sit it out, she is they type of person IMO that can mold to whatever situation put in front of her, so I see no problem with her dealing with lockdown.
I am suprised at how bull headed she is, I really thought by now she would talk to someone. With our luck she just may have a bad attorney advising her wrong, they are out there, I know, I have had 2 that made things worse for me because they did not understand the laws fully or were just pansie's :)

Anyhow maybe Gabe's family is just asking him for help in tracking Baby Gabe down. He already has JJ on his team why not add LP they are both good at what they do and have their own unique contacts and abilities...Go Team Gabe !!!

I love LP like an uncle, but he is a bull in a china shop. I would hope KC taught him you don't deal with a person who may well be mentally ill the way you do with the rest of the world. But absolutely if she will talk offer her a deal and bail her out with an ankle bracelet and a short leash, until her trial.

If TM stays away it is only because they now understand until Elizabeth wants to tell the truth it's like a where's Waldo search with the whole damn world as a background. He could be around the block or he could be on the other side of the planet. There are just too many places to hide this sweet lil' boy.

On the Haleigh thread last week MC told her dad LP wants to bail her out, LEO put out the word for LP to stay away. MC is not nearly as cocky as she was before 13 days of lock down. A couple more weeks may actually get somewhere with her.

Unless Elizabeth is another KC maybe a few weeks of lockdown will make her a little more talkative too...

I don't know the law, but it seems these lawyers who go in and and tell these girls "It won't help you to talk" need a good swift kick. Would they say that to the person last seen with their missing child?

The fact that E hired a babysitter for Gabe at the hotel, makes me think she wouldn't have hurt him. If she had planned to murder him (sorry that sounds so cold) she could have done it at any time and just disappeared. Not call his daddy and tell him what she said she did, not tell the Smiths that it didn't happen. Just disappear.

LCoastMom
02-28-2010, 07:06 PM
I highly doubt LP is trying to get TM to take the case... for one, TM has long distanced himself from LP, and 2: his wife is his main priority, right now, as she battles cancer... there is a letter floating around from TES about Tim stepping away to focus on her and her battle with cancer.

I think we may be saying TM when we mean TES. I believe they are still operational, without Tim at the helm. I hope anyway!

Still, prayers for The Miller's for strength and a cure. We need TM and TM needs Mrs.T.M.

b4e
02-28-2010, 07:20 PM
Although I voted 'No' - and still feel that way - it would be interesting to see how EJ acted if she were released on bail. And more importantly, to see who she interacted with. Even if she is too smart to give herself away, actions (and reactions) sometimes speak even louder than words.

kappy50
02-28-2010, 08:45 PM
If LP is willing to step up to the plate, for whatever reason...he is willing to do SOMETHING! I believe it is because no one else has the means to bail her out. I know I would not. Think about it , LP is not stupid. My question is, if LM and his family contacted LP, which I believe we are told he was, then doesn't EJ have to say yeah or nay ???? If she says nay, then this discussion is a mute point. Look, LP, if you can do anything at all....let's do it...He can, but who else can is the question!!

TXHOPE
02-28-2010, 10:19 PM
Maybe LP's involvement will get NG to cover Gabriel more! We need to keep his precious face out there. At least she would have a new guest since TS isn't allowed to speak anymore...

BlOnDe_GuRrL
02-28-2010, 10:51 PM
I think Leonard needs to stay out of these cases. I used to like him but now I'm beginning to see that his intentions aren't to help find these kids. He's exploiting them and their families for publicity. He's an attention whore and just needs to go away.

Sorry if that sounded mean... but wth is he thinking? Hasn't he learned his lesson?

Taeobi
02-28-2010, 10:52 PM
I don't think it would do any good. She has done this to spite Logan. She will punish herself to ruin his life. The only way she will ever speak out is if Gabriel is found dead, just to deny doing it. If he is found alive, she might express claims of needing to protect her child, etc... JMO :))

Concernedmomarizona
03-01-2010, 12:14 AM
Admittedly I am not familiar with this guy (and his potential real intentions), but my vote is Yes, with strict conditions. I figure why not? If she gets out and doesn't help as agreed, can't he pull bail (I may be totally wrong here?)?? Isn't anything worth a shot at this point to get this girl to talk? And who cares if he gets publicity out of it if it keeps Gabriel in the news. Now, if there is reason to think this would hamper finding Gabriel that is a different story....

BeanE
03-01-2010, 06:04 AM
Considering that Elizabeth ran away to San Antonio, and then ran away to Miami Beach, and all her comments that she was going to "run forever", do you all think if she were bailed out she'd run?

Also, what do you all think of LP using his bounty hunter skills to try to find whoever may be holding Gabe? We don't know what LP and the family may be discussing - they may not be discussing bail at all. That's just based on LP, bail, KC, and Misty.

Taeobi
03-01-2010, 09:18 AM
Although I voted 'No' - and still feel that way - it would be interesting to see how EJ acted if she were released on bail. And more importantly, to see who she interacted with. Even if she is too smart to give herself away, actions (and reactions) sometimes speak even louder than words.

That's the only reason I would consider that scenario... to wait and see what she did and who she interacted with. I don't believe she would volunteer any information, but she may contact someone of interest, JMO.

Considering that Elizabeth ran away to San Antonio, and then ran away to Miami Beach, and all her comments that she was going to "run forever", do you all think if she were bailed out she'd run?

Also, what do you all think of LP using his bounty hunter skills to try to find whoever may be holding Gabe? We don't know what LP and the family may be discussing - they may not be discussing bail at all. That's just based on LP, bail, KC, and Misty.

I DEFINITELY believe she would run. I'm not too familiar with LP or his bounty hunting skills, that could go either way.

kissdegirl
03-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Considering that Elizabeth ran away to San Antonio, and then ran away to Miami Beach, and all her comments that she was going to "run forever", do you all think if she were bailed out she'd run?

Also, what do you all think of LP using his bounty hunter skills to try to find whoever may be holding Gabe? We don't know what LP and the family may be discussing - they may not be discussing bail at all. That's just based on LP, bail, KC, and Misty.

I think if she were released, she should be placed on house arrest, and wear a device. I also think her house should be wired to listen, since she's not talking to LE, likely on the advice of her lawyers. She may lead investigators to Gabriel, but she is smart, and 2 months cooling off in jail may have her more focused than ever.

If the reward for finding Gabriel is not raised drastically, than I think a bounty hunter is a great idea for hunting down those who have him.

$$$ talks.

pittsburghgirl
03-01-2010, 05:14 PM
EJ needs to sit in jail for a long time. She's done NOTHING to answer the one question WE KNOW she can answer: Where is Gabriel?

Litlred
03-01-2010, 09:54 PM
I voted no, but I'm have mixed thoughts on this. If there is any chance that EJ could assist in finding Gabriel out of jail then I would do it. Also, it could bring alot of media attention and the more people that know about Gabriel the better.

Elphaba
03-02-2010, 03:01 AM
Admittedly I am not familiar with this guy (and his potential real intentions), but my vote is Yes, with strict conditions. I figure why not? If she gets out and doesn't help as agreed, can't he pull bail (I may be totally wrong here?)?? Isn't anything worth a shot at this point to get this girl to talk? And who cares if he gets publicity out of it if it keeps Gabriel in the news. Now, if there is reason to think this would hamper finding Gabriel that is a different story....


He's a bounty hunter, so it would be a third party actually bonding her out, with him putting up the money. There is a sticky situation with that, given that he can put the money up, but would have to depend on someone else to actually bond her out. The people bonding her out would control any aspect of pulling bail, not LP. He did this with Casey by going through his nephew, Tony, a bondsman... Tony set the stuff up with a bonding place in Florida... but I would be SHOCKED if Tony would get on board with another situation like the Anthony case... Tony, in his own words here on WS, was very critical of and none to happy with LP for making stuff up/lying, to get media attention, when things weren't panning out for LP.

Would LP stepping in hamper finding Gabriel? if he starts making things up like he did in the Anthony case, it could waste precious time and send people in the wrong direction. Now, it would ramp up media attention for LP, which would put more focus on Gabriel, in the media... that could help a lot, but one would have to ask theirselves if it is worth having to deal with the Padilla cirucs. He loves the cameras and wants face time in the media, by his own admission... he is VERY honest about loving media attention, so the family needs to understand: they bring him on, expect it to be the Leonard Padilla show... that is just how he works things. If a search happens, he will not be there to actively search, but will be there to talk to media, take pictures with fans and give out autographs, which he loves doing. (I think he even did that when he showed up at the site where poor Caylee's body was dumped, as LE excavated the site for her remains). The family also needs to know that he is direct with his words... he doesn't hold anything back and can come across as harsh, at times... he doesn't sugarcoat anything. On the good side, he can tell it like it is: he was very blunt with Cindy Anthony and said things to her that were harsh, but really needed to be said... he faced Casey and called her out on her BS (I applaud him on that... unfortunately, he was kicked out of the house when he did it). On the bad side: LP see's dollar signs in these cases and he has never denied the accusations about the things he said to Tim Miller about making money off of holding up Caylee's skull to the cameras from a dive LP wanted TES to do. And he has a bad habit of taking his theories and presenting them as facts to the media... which can get to be aggravating if you don't realize until later that he was just actually throwing out theories. (this stuff can be researched in Nancy Grace transcripts).

It could be a good thing, or it could go bad thing... it all depends on how well it is going for LP. He is a very successful bounty hunter... even his detractors will say that he is good at what he does when it comes to skip tracing. But one has to keep in mind that finding bail jumpers and finding missing children: 2 totally seperate venues...

b4e
03-02-2010, 09:20 AM
I voted no, but I'm have mixed thoughts on this. If there is any chance that EJ could assist in finding Gabriel out of jail then I would do it. Also, it could bring alot of media attention and the more people that know about Gabriel the better.

I agree; Gabe needs more media attention - and lots of it. Now that the coverage has dwindled to basically nothing, if someone has him they may start to get careless. If his face and his story could be re-broadcast (even through someone like Padilla), it is quite possible new sightings would begin to surface now.

Patty G
03-02-2010, 09:38 AM
Since it is the "family of Gabriel" that contact Leonard, we can't blame him IF he gets involved in this "high-profile" case.

If Leonard is interested in putting up the bond money for Elizabeth, IMO, Leonard would more then likely have the following restriction: "tell us where Gabriel is so we can bring him back before we bond you out!"

NewMommy09
03-02-2010, 10:45 AM
I agree with others "No baby, No Bail".

If there is anything to be gained by EJ being bailed out, then I am all for it. Otherwise, let her rot for what she's put Gabriel and his family through.

I do like the idea of TES getting more involved though.

My prayers for Tim and his wife also.

Baznme
03-02-2010, 12:15 PM
I don't think it's LP's place to bargain anyone's bail for information just because he has the money, is looking for publicity, wants to find Gabriel or is just plain bored. This is not the way to go about things. It's unethical and in a way, makes a mockery out of our own justice system. His actions do nothing but cloud the mind of the very person that holds the answers. If she confesses, she knows it will land her back in jail, so why would she want to talk to him? His offer has created this catch-22 situation so she pulls back even further from telling the truth. His offer does nothing but hamper this investigation and worse yet, it's that much longer for Gabriel and his family that have to endure this. Back off Leonard. Leave these situations alone......please.

Nikki 01
03-18-2010, 07:35 PM
I don't care for LP and don't like when he inserts himself into high profile cases, but considering Elizabeth wants out of jail I think it might be worth a shot if Padilla offers to bail her out if she gives up there the baby is.

rekabal
03-19-2010, 04:36 PM
I don't care for LP and don't like when he inserts himself into high profile cases, but considering Elizabeth wants out of jail I think it might be worth a shot if Padilla offers to bail her out if she gives up there the baby is.

I voted no, but if she tells where Gabriel is AND they get him back..... then sure, bail her out. But LM has to have physical custody of him so Gabe can't disappear again.

kissdegirl
03-19-2010, 10:12 PM
EJ's associations are starting to worry me, so I have to say no way. I don't think it would be safe for LM or Gabriel if EJ were out. They would have to enter witness protection as I don't trust her for a second.

BeanE
03-25-2010, 10:20 AM
Closing Thread

There hasn't been any more word about possible involvement of LP with Gabe's case. Should there be any more word, we'll open this thread back up, or create an appropriate new thread topic.

Thanks!
BeanE