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PickieChickie
03-11-2010, 02:42 PM
Questions you'd like Susan's friends and family members to answer

Many of us have particular questions we'd like the various people who know Susan, Josh, Michael and Steven Powell to answer, including (but not limited to) Susan and Josh's neighors and ward members, Kiirsi and John Hellewell, Jennifer and Kirk Graves, Tim Peterson, Wayne Hamberg, JoVanna Owings, Amber Hardgrave, Shelby Gifford, Chuck and Judy Cox, etc.

Here is where you can pose your questions in hopes that the person you are wishing to respond, or someone credible who knows the answer, will participate in providing answers.

RubyRed
03-11-2010, 02:52 PM
Who was the mooner? There were several people helping Joshy that day so someone knows.

UtahMom
03-11-2010, 02:56 PM
I have a question regarding Joshua's employment.

How long had he been employed at the Trucking Company working in IT?

And does Kirk Graves work for the same employer? Helped Josh get the job?

Thank you.

Dr.Fessel
03-11-2010, 02:58 PM
Why did Mr. Cox think something happened that resulted in a fast trip to the ER when he was told by family about the wet spot and the fans blowing on it?

Dr.Fessel
03-11-2010, 03:02 PM
Why wasn't Josh's picture included on the flyers put out for the search for Susan?

PickieChickie
03-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Please copy and paste this list into your reply then answer each question:

Did Josh Powell have mood swings?

Did Josh Powell go on spending sprees?

Did Josh Powell spend a lot of time on the computer?

What did Josh Powell do on his days off?

Did Susan and Josh spend a lot of time together on their days off?

Did Susan and Josh go grocery shopping together?

When out for dinner with others at a restaurant, did Josh leave a tip?

Did Josh generally use a debit or credit card to make purchases?

Was Josh in the habit of carrying cash?

Did Josh ever disappear for several hours while Susan wondered where he was other than when he didn't show up to pick her up from work? (I read where he didn't show up to pick Susan up after work which resulted in Susan needing the boy's babysitter to go pick her up, that this happened at least five (5) times.)

Did Josh have any male friends who he spent time with apart from the family?

What were Josh's hobbies? Did he ever go hunting or fishing by himself?

Did Susan ever express suspicion that Josh was having an affair?

Does Josh carry gum or breath mints in his pocket or van as a habit?

What style GENERATOR did Josh Powell buy? Was it a standard generator that sounds like a lawn mower motor or was it a small, portable generator with a carrying handle? When exactly did he purchase it? How much did he pay? Was it bran new or used?

Were Josh and Susan ever prescribed any medications for depression, insomnia, pain, etc.? If yes, when?

PickieChickie
03-11-2010, 03:23 PM
Questions for Charlie and Braden's babysitter
What was Susan's reaction when Josh didn't show up to pick her up from work?
What did she say?
Surely Josh had a cell phone! Was Susan trying to call Josh?
What was Susan's reaction after he failed to pick her up the fifth (5th) time?
Did Susan ever give an explanation as to why Josh failed to pick her up on those five (5) occasions? If yes, what?

Mesmerized
03-11-2010, 10:15 PM
Please copy and paste this list into your reply then answer each question:

Did Josh Powell have mood swings?

snipped

Were Josh and Susan ever prescribed any medications for depression, insomnia, pain, etc.? If yes, when?


Pickie (and others) - it is against federal law to disclose another person's medical information without their express written consent. It is ok to say in your opinion you think someone has mood swings, but it is not ok to disclose someone's actual diagnoses, treatments, or prescriptions.

gwenabob
03-11-2010, 10:20 PM
Pickie (and others) - it is against federal law to disclose another person's medical information without their express written consent. It is ok to say in your opinion you think someone has mood swings, but it is not ok to disclose someone's actual diagnoses, treatments, or prescriptions.

As discussed on the other thread--this law only applies to treating medical personnel--not the average Joe. We can discuss it all we want.

gwenabob
03-11-2010, 10:22 PM
HIPAA Rules:

A Covered Entity is one of the following:

A Health Care Provider
A Health Plan
A Health Care Clearinghouse
This includes providers such as:

Doctors
Clinics
Psychologists
Dentists
Chiropractors
Nursing Homes
Pharmacies
...but only if they transmit any information in an electronic form in connection with a transaction for which HHS has adopted a standard.


This includes:

Health insurance companies
HMOs
Company health plans
Government programs that pay for health care, such as Medicare, Medicaid, and the military and veterans health care programs
This includes entities that process nonstandard health information they receive from another entity into a standard (i.e., standard electronic format or data content), or vice versa.

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/coveredentities/index.html

hollyblue
03-12-2010, 02:02 AM
Conflicting stories throughout the media--constantly and still.

Purse, phone, keys??????

Was Susan's keys in the house when LE, Jennifer and Terrica entered the house???

gwenabob
03-12-2010, 02:05 AM
Conflicting stories throughout the media--constantly and still.

Purse, phone, keys??????

Was Susan's keys in the house when LE, Jennifer and Terrica entered the house???

That's what Jennifer said. Her purse, phone and keys were on her bed and the fans were going in the living room.

PickieChickie
03-12-2010, 02:15 AM
That's what Jennifer said. Her purse, phone and keys were on her bed and the fans were going in the living room. That is what I remember as well.

Vegas Bride
03-12-2010, 02:48 AM
How common was it for someone else to be at the Powell for a meal?
Was it out of the norm to be asked to stay for dinner if someone was visiting?

What kind of relationship does Josh have with his mother?

What kind of tv shows does Josh enjoy? Did he ever show much interst in crime shows such as CSI or show much interest in True Crime, did he ever voice thoughts on the Hacking case?

Has anybody ever been around him to watch HIM make s'mores? or if they were made it was always Susan making them? Would they have the things needed for them on hand in the house? If there were issues about what kind of groceries could be bought, would it have been ok to buy junk food?

Did he have other people he kept in close touch with besides his father?

Is there still a bank acct somewhere that Susan had started as part of her plan to leave Josh, or did he manage to get a hold of it?

VB

gwenabob
03-12-2010, 10:17 AM
Right, if Josh was so controlling over the food purchased, I doubt there were ingredients for smores just sitting around in DECEMBER.

Did the police ask him if he stopped at the grocery store for food? (Yeah, right, Utah, Sunday night. Lot's of grocery stores open!) If so, where? How did he pay? What did he buy? If not, then how was he going to feed the boys out in the middle of nowhere?

PickieChickie
03-12-2010, 11:29 AM
Right, if Josh was so controlling over the food purchased, I doubt there were ingredients for smores just sitting around in DECEMBER.

Did the police ask him if he stopped at the grocery store for food? (Yeah, right, Utah, Sunday night. Lot's of grocery stores open!) If so, where? How did he pay? What did he buy? If not, then how was he going to feed the boys out in the middle of nowhere?

From what I have gathered, Josh didn't want Susan spending money on healthy foods such as fruits and vegetable and was told if she wanted to feed her kids food like that, she needed to grow it herself.

It appears to me Josh Powell had not a clue when it came to the benefits of eating fresh fruits and vegetables on a regular basis, that he was a Top Roman and macaroni in the box sort of guy!

sunnydee
03-12-2010, 01:08 PM
Right, if Josh was so controlling over the food purchased, I doubt there were ingredients for smores just sitting around in DECEMBER.

Did the police ask him if he stopped at the grocery store for food? (Yeah, right, Utah, Sunday night. Lot's of grocery stores open!) If so, where? How did he pay? What did he buy? If not, then how was he going to feed the boys out in the middle of nowhere?

Many of the grocery stores are open 24 hours a day - even in Utah. Since this camping trip was not planned in advance - if he did stop at a grocery store, did he take them into the store after midnight? Or did he leave them in the van while he shopped? My guess is he probably wasn't shopping for food when he left his house - but got food later when he was hungry. Who would want to put their groceries next to their dead wife in their van?

My guess is that he probably shopped for food when the kids were waking up and they and he were hungry. He strikes me as someone who reacts rather than plans.

Peterson once mentioned Josh talking about going to Wal Mart to buy a new cell phone and quilt after the police took his. Many people shop out of habit, perhaps Josh would have gone to a Wal Mart for his food purchase on his camping trip too? (Many of them are 24 hour stores)

Jules71
03-12-2010, 03:35 PM
That's what Jennifer said. Her purse, phone and keys were on her bed and the fans were going in the living room.

Was the bed made? Did Susan regularly make her bed? I think if Susan took a nap that evening and then something happend to her that night- the bed would not be made. I doubt Josh would make the bed after allegedly killing her.

passionflower
03-12-2010, 03:49 PM
Have the Cox family ever try to get custody of Susan's sons?

Are any of the Cox family trying to organize a search to find Susan?

passionflower
03-12-2010, 03:50 PM
Was Josh ever found with any porn, at strip clubs, nude type magazines?

Jules71
03-12-2010, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the floor plan. Does anyone know where the wet spot and fans were? And was it in route to the garage?

Is is possible to get from the basement to the garage without going outside?

Brought over from the general thread.

AlexisFresca
03-12-2010, 09:48 PM
Have either of the boys asked what happened to their mom? If so, what answer was given to them? Did Josh volunteer any information to the boys when she went missing or did he wait until asked, thus forced to come up with some answer (truthful or not)?

Were both children planned pregnancies or unplanned?

What is Terrica's reasoning/excuse for not being more vocal about this case and feedback regarding Josh?

When did Josh become a Mormon? Was SP giving Josh anti-LDS material before he met and married Susan, or just after?

What happened between the Cox family and the SP family that the Cox's have said they do not feel comfortable around him?

What was removed from the shed that Josh felt the need to block the video news camera's from seeing? Or was it a ruse on his part?

Define the 'keys' that were found when police entered the house. Were they actual car and house keys or just house keys?

Were any lease agreements or other rental information found in the house when police searched? Bank records or checking acct information that was in her name only? (it was reported that Susan already had plans on where she was going to go when leaving Josh).

Is it true that Josh is taking the kids to church in Payullup?

Have the renters of the Powell house had any unusual experiences since moving in there? Have they found anything unusual?

Has the shrink wrap allegation been confirmed to be true or false?

Any confirmation if Josh did go to Susan's place of employment demanding the log she kept there that had incidents with him recorded in it?

What are Josh's brother's actual thoughts and reactions to this case? Is Josh even close to them, or the other sister for that matter?

When police entered the house and looked around, had the dinner dishes been cleaned and put away or in the sink/dishwasher unwashed?

grayjay
03-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Fall 2008 Department of Public Policy and Administration, Boise State University

Ralph Powell (2000) is Professor of Criminology at the University of Phoenix, Idaho Campus. He continues as Operations Commander over the Forensic Labs for the Idaho State Police. http://ppa.boisestate.edu/publications/_PAreport/v-alumni.html
Is Ralph Powell a brother of SP, and if so, do the two families still keep in touch? Would JP have visited or talked with this criminologist in recent years?

PickieChickie
03-13-2010, 06:30 PM
Is it true that Josh is taking the kids to church in Payullup?

I know for a fact that Josh took the boys to the Puyallup LDS church at least once because a woman sent me a Facebook message telling me he had attended and how creepy it was when he came very close to where she was. (I won't go into more details because doing so could reveal who she is.)

Mesmerized
03-13-2010, 09:46 PM
As discussed on the other thread--this law only applies to treating medical personnel--not the average Joe. We can discuss it all we want.

Yes, G-a-b. Thanked you on the other thread for posting the HIPAA info as a reminder to all. I didn't have time the night I posted to be more specific in my warning, and you did a great job following up.

hollyblue
03-14-2010, 12:54 AM
Was the bed made? Did Susan regularly make her bed? I think if Susan took a nap that evening and then something happend to her that night- the bed would not be made. I doubt Josh would make the bed after allegedly killing her.

If Josh has OCD, I'm sure he would have made the bed afterwards. If she was "abducted" from a "deep sleep" then I would say no. You know if Susan was able, she would have been calling all over the place if he took those kids at that hour...especially if he did not return after awhile, I think she would have gone bullistic and called not only her relatives and friends, but possibly LE too.

Vegas Bride
03-14-2010, 11:12 PM
Does anybody know what clothes of Susans are missing? Also, are any of her shoes and her coat missing?
It was a very cold night, she would not have left the house without a coat and winter shoes/boots etc IMO

If she was going to lay down I would imagine she may have changed into something other than the clothes she wore to church, is it possible the only thing missing is what she changed into and no shoes or coat?

VB

:+:MrTT:+:
04-11-2010, 10:41 AM
...to the investigation.

When they searched the home and grounds with cadaver dogs, what were the results?

I have not read all the threads here, so if its been asked i apologize for asking again.

gwenabob
04-11-2010, 12:23 PM
...to the investigation.

When they searched the home and grounds with cadaver dogs, what were the results?

I have not read all the threads here, so if its been asked i apologize for asking again.


I don't know that they did search the home or area with cadaver dogs. I don't remember ever hearing that. Big mistake. Of course, they might have used dogs on the minivan when it was in their possession...

:+:MrTT:+:
04-11-2010, 12:49 PM
I don't know that they did search the home or area with cadaver dogs. I don't remember ever hearing that. Big mistake. Of course, they might have used dogs on the minivan when it was in their possession...

Something happened on that Saturday night, that forced him and the kids to have to leave the house.
with the fans running on the carpet, i wonder if they could tell me if any of the windows were opened that day, to air it out.

They need to go back to the house and property with the dogs, if it is not to late for that.

kgraves
04-13-2010, 12:32 PM
I have a question regarding Joshua's employment.

How long had he been employed at the Trucking Company working in IT?

And does Kirk Graves work for the same employer? Helped Josh get the job?

Thank you.

I don't know how long he had been with his previous employer, but I can answer some of this.

I have been self-employed for the last 7 years. The only help I gave Josh in a professional sense, was answering technical questions when Josh was first learning how to program.
Josh managed to get the job himself. I wouldn't have provided a recommendation for him. I value my professional relationships too much.

kgraves
04-13-2010, 12:42 PM
Is Ralph Powell a brother of SP, and if so, do the two families still keep in touch? Would JP have visited or talked with this criminologist in recent years?

SP's father was married 4 times. SP's mother was married 2 times. So I cannot speak with 100% certainty. Based on Jennifer's knowledge of the family, Ralph Powell is NOT related to SP. Neither of us have ever heard of him.

kgraves
04-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Something happened on that Saturday night, that forced him and the kids to have to leave the house.
with the fans running on the carpet, i wonder if they could tell me if any of the windows were opened that day, to air it out.

They need to go back to the house and property with the dogs, if it is not to late for that.


LE broke a window to gain entrance to the home. So it is safe to assume that no windows or doors were left open.

RubyRed
04-13-2010, 12:54 PM
LE broke a window to gain entrance to the home. So it is safe to assume that no windows or doors were left open.

:Welcome-12-june: Glad to have you here.

Do you know who the mooner was at Susan's home?

kgraves
04-13-2010, 03:25 PM
Can't (ok, won't) answer all the questions, but here are the ones I will.

>Did Josh Powell go on spending sprees?
Josh liked to spend BIG money. His purchases tended to be expensive and "fancy". example: $700 for gas powered R/C cars (multiple), large power tools for wood working, computer equipment he didn't really need but was really "neat".

>Did Josh Powell spend a lot of time on the computer?
He fancied himself a programmer. That requires a lot of computer time.

>Did Susan and Josh go grocery shopping together?
Not to my knowledge.

>When out for dinner with others at a restaurant, did Josh leave a tip?
don't know. However I do know he was cheap, so likely not, or very little.

>What were Josh's hobbies? Did he ever go hunting or fishing by himself?
He wasn't a fisherman or hunter type. His hobbies changes often, and usually involved something expensive he could spend money on. Wood working is the only hobby I know he stuck with.

kgraves
04-13-2010, 03:31 PM
>What kind of relationship does Josh have with his mother?
He has a good relationship with his mom. They would talk on the phone regularly and still do occasionally.

>Has anybody ever been around him to watch HIM make s'mores?
No

>Would they have the things needed for them on hand in the house?
I help pack the kitchen up when they moved and didn't see any of the necessary items for S'mores.

>If there were issues about what kind of groceries could be bought, would it have been ok to buy junk food?
Funny enough, JSP complained when Susan bought healthy stuff, but I can imagine him purchasing junk food himself.

>Did he have other people he kept in close touch with besides his father?
I am not aware of anyone, other than his mom.

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 03:37 PM
Kirk:

Thank you for coming here and answering questions for us. Really helps.

Did Josh tell you or anyone you know where he went to college and did he present himself as having a degree in Business? Did you ever see a diploma hanging up at his house?

Did Susan seem like the kind who would take abuse or did she stand up for herself?

Did Susan ever tell you or your wife that she was afraid Josh would hurt her?

Thanks!

kgraves
04-13-2010, 03:43 PM
>Have either of the boys asked what happened to their mom? If so, what answer was given to them? Did Josh volunteer any information to the boys when she went missing or did he wait until asked, thus forced to come up with some answer (truthful or not)?
I am aware of at least one occassion when the boys asked about their mom. As I heard it, JSP simply told them that she was gone. Nothing more.

>Were both children planned pregnancies or unplanned?
planned

>When did Josh become a Mormon? Was SP giving Josh anti-LDS material before he met and married Susan, or just after?
Josh was raised Mormon, baptised at 8. He was later raised by just SP after the divorce. SP was teaching anti-mormon material to all the kids from quite young (<10). JSP became active in the church again only after he was an adult (just before he met Susan).

>Define the 'keys' that were found when police entered the house. Were they actual car and house keys or just house keys?
Jennifer found Susan's "keys" in her purse after they entered the house. She wasn't paying attention at the time to see what keys were on the ring.

>Is it true that Josh is taking the kids to church in Payullup?
He took them to church for a couple weeks, but that was it.

>Has the shrink wrap allegation been confirmed to be true or false?
He did purchase some shrink wrap. If it is the roll I saw during the packing, it is a single roll, 3 inches wide.

kgraves
04-13-2010, 03:53 PM
>Did Josh tell you or anyone you know where he went to college and did he present himself as having a degree in Business?
Yes, in fact he told the family that he had graduated and just didn't want to walk. Additionally, he managed to build up a HUGE amount of debt in school loans. I don't know the actual amount, but it is in the range of $60K.

>Did you ever see a diploma hanging up at his house?
No

hollyblue
04-13-2010, 04:23 PM
SP's father was married 4 times. SP's mother was married 2 times. So I cannot speak with 100% certainty. Based on Jennifer's knowledge of the family, Ralph Powell is NOT related to SP. Neither of us have ever heard of him.

I'm not doubting you Kirk, but that is just weird and creepy, considering how much they do look alike. Amazing. Thanks for the confirmation tho.

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 05:04 PM
>Did Josh tell you or anyone you know where he went to college and did he present himself as having a degree in Business?
Yes, in fact he told the family that he had graduated and just didn't want to walk. Additionally, he managed to build up a HUGE amount of debt in school loans. I don't know the actual amount, but it is in the range of $60K.

>Did you ever see a diploma hanging up at his house?
No

Very interesting. Mark Hacking also told his family he had "graduated" but conveniently got "sick" the day he was supposed to walk.

Kirk, do you now believe Josh was lying about his degree? Which college did he say he "graduated" from?

Thanks!

kgraves
04-13-2010, 06:18 PM
Very interesting. Mark Hacking also told his family he had "graduated" but conveniently got "sick" the day he was supposed to walk.

Kirk, do you now believe Josh was lying about his degree? Which college did he say he "graduated" from?

Thanks!

Based on the information I see here, and it looks like the efforts of the folks here have been thorough, I would have to conclude that he lied.

As for the school he was supposed to have attended, I believe it was UW. However, he never told me directly.

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 07:51 PM
Kirk:

When Josh filed for bankruptcy in April 2007, was Susan aware of it? She was not listed as a debtor, only Josh, so we wondered if she even knew he did file.

Also, wasn't Susan working in April 2007? Do you have any idea why Josh would list her as a homemaker with no income when he filed?

Did Josh tell anybody about his bankruptcy? It seems with all his debt discharged, and both him and Susan working, the money would not have been so tight. Why were they still having money problems to the point he wouldn't let Susan buy proper food and Christmas presents for the boys?

kgraves
04-13-2010, 08:32 PM
>When Josh filed for bankruptcy in April 2007, was Susan aware of it?
Yes she was, but since the debt that was causing the bankruptcy didn't include her name, there wasn't any point in messing up her credit rating as well.

>Also, wasn't Susan working in April 2007? Do you have any idea why Josh would list her as a homemaker with no income when he filed?
I don't remember the exact timeline, but I know that Susan was not working for a while (wanted to be a full-time mom). She went back to work because Josh could not produce any steady income.

>Did Josh tell anybody about his bankruptcy?
We certainly knew.

>Why were they still having money problems to the point he wouldn't let Susan buy proper food and Christmas presents for the boys?
Because JSP is cheap and controlling and he spent too much on stuff they didn't need (big boy toys).

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 09:09 PM
Kirk: I hope you realize how much we appreciate you!

Couple more questions:

Did Josh ever cook or was the pancake dinner extremely unusual?

Did Josh ever participate in Boy Scouts as a youth? If so, did he get his Eagle?

We know that Susan's parents loaned them (at least) $3,000 as listed on the bankruptcy papers. Did Josh's dad or mom ever loan them money? Did the fact that Josh put that loan from the Coxes on his bankruptcy cause problems with Susan and her parents?

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 09:14 PM
Would you say Steven Powell held a lot of influence over Josh? Did Josh respect him and would he do whatever the old man wanted him to do?

Do you know why Susan disliked Steven Powell so much? Did something happen between them before the move to Utah?

Why do you think Josh wouldn't let Susan use the computer at home? Do you think he could have been hiding something on the computer?

Is it possible Josh had a girlfriend on the side? (Or....even a boyfriend?)

Someone mentioned that Josh didn't like to have sex because of "germs." Did you ever hear anything like that?

Thank you.

gwenabob
04-13-2010, 09:19 PM
Did Josh ever tell you or Jennifer why he quit going to church? Was it simply a difficulty with his faith or was it a conflict with someone at church?

Do you know if Josh is looking for a job now, and if so, what kind of work is he looking for?

Is Steven Powell really supporting four grown unemployed children and two grandchildren at that house? Does he make a lot of money to do that or is it draining his resources? Are all the other kids still at home screwed up too?

Was Josh every diagnosed, formally or informally, with a learning disability like ADD or dyslexia? Is it possible he was hit on the head with a heavy rock as a kid???? (OK, just kidding, sort of...) What I mean is, was he always "different" and "difficult" and why in the world was a class act like Susan attracted to him?

:+:MrTT:+:
04-13-2010, 09:47 PM
LE broke a window to gain entrance to the home. So it is safe to assume that no windows or doors were left open.




according to the blue prints of the home when it was built, and when those blue prints are compared with the house today, are there any changes in the physical appearance of the house or yard before her disappearance, and perhaps not completed until after her disappearance?
Any add -on inside or out, anything built in the back before the disappearance? any small crawl spaces etc, inside the home that may now be hidden behind a new wall etc.....

kgraves
04-15-2010, 01:30 PM
>Would you say Steven Powell held a lot of influence over Josh?
yes

>Did Josh respect him and would he do whatever the old man wanted him to do?
I suspect yes.

>Why do you think Josh wouldn't let Susan use the computer at home?
control issues.

>Did Josh ever tell you or Jennifer why he quit going to church?
He gave reasons, but they all sounded like paroting of SP's anti-mormon retoric.

>Is Steven Powell really supporting four grown unemployed children and two grandchildren at that house?
yes

>Does he make a lot of money to do that or is it draining his resources?
He make a decent income, but nothing extraordinary.

>Is it possible he was hit on the head with a heavy rock as a kid???? (OK, just kidding, sort of...)
Perhaps it would have helped :) (also just kidding, sort of...)

RubyRed
04-15-2010, 01:39 PM
Kgraves to make it easier on you answering the questions you can just push the quote button in a post and then you do not have to copy the questions.. You might already know this if not just trying to help. I appreciate you taking the time to answer them .Thank You.

PickieChickie
04-15-2010, 01:41 PM
>Is it possible he was hit on the head with a heavy rock as a kid???? (OK, just kidding, sort of...)
Perhaps it would have helped :) (also just kidding, sort of...)

Thank you for answering questions. We all really appreciate it! We waited quite awhile since this thread was started for someone to participate and I am thrilled, just as I am sure others are.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/ffj/floorlaugh.gif You made me bust out laughing with your above response! http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/ffj/floorlaugh.gif

PickieChickie
04-15-2010, 01:48 PM
About the day Josh rented the car

I have read that Jennifer Graves, Josh Powell's sister, babysat Braden and Charlie the day Josh rented the car and disappeared for 24 hours.

Did Josh tell Jennifer where he was going or why he needed her to babysit the boys?

Did Jennifer or Kirk notice Josh's severely burnt hands when he returned? If yes, were they burnt evenly on both hands? Were they burnt on the palms and the tops?

Does Josh have sensitive hands?

Does Josh wear gloves during the winter?

How did Josh get to the rental car agency?

How did Josh get to wherever he went after returning the car?

kgraves
04-15-2010, 04:19 PM
Kgraves to make it easier on you answering the questions you can just push the quote button in a post and then you do not have to copy the questions.. You might already know this if not just trying to help. I appreciate you taking the time to answer them .Thank You.

Thanks for the tip.

Actually, since I was answering the questions in-line, I just thought it would be easier to read if I did it the other way.

diphi
04-15-2010, 05:38 PM
Thank you, kgraves.

PickieChickie
04-17-2010, 01:01 PM
Questions for Kirk Graves

1. Do you have a Josh Powell Realtor magnet on your refrigerator?

2. Have you ever suspected Josh Powell is a bi-polar/manic depressant?

3. Did you ever hear Josh Powell yell at Susan or the boys?

4. Did Josh Powell ever ask to borrow money from you?

5. Did Jennifer and you believe Josh had a business administration degree?

6. Is Josh Powell a habitual liar?

7. During your recent visit to the home of Jennifer's father, Steve Powell, where Josh Powell is living with sons, who was the first person to order Jennifer and you to leave?

8. Does Steve Powell have a bad temper?

9. Does Josh Powell have a bad temper?

10. While living in West Valley City, Utah, did Josh establish any close, meaningful friendships with any males?

11. To your knowledge, has anyone ever suspected Josh is bi-sexual or a closet homosexual?

12. Was Steve Powell physically abusive to his children?

13. Was Steve Powell physically abusive to Josh and Jennifer's mother?

14. Is Jennifer embarrassed about her father's http://stevechantrey.com web site?

15. Was Josh involved in online gaming?

16. Has Josh ever been involved in playing Dungeons and Dragons, Magic The Drawing or any "Satanic" games, either physically or online?

kgraves
04-17-2010, 03:31 PM
A couple of disclaimers.

1. ‎While Josh is my brother-in-law, I didn't spend much time with him on a personal level, so he and I were never close. At the best of times he is socially inconsiderate, at the worst of time, I find him down right annoying.

2. I won't answer every question. Some I am not comfortable answering. Some I just don't know (see above reason).


>I have read that Jennifer Graves, Josh Powell's sister, babysat sons the day Josh rented the car and disappeared for 24 hours.
correct

>Did Josh tell Jennifer where he was going or why he needed her to babysit the boys?
no

>How did Josh get to the rental car agency?
Got a ride

>How did Josh get to wherever he went after returning the car?
Got a ride

1. Do you have a Josh Powell Realtor magnet on your refrigerator?
no

4. Did Josh Powell ever ask to borrow money from you?
yes, I chose not to lend it.

5. Did Jennifer and you believe Josh had a business administration degree?
We had been led to believe he had a college degree. I am not sure what major.

7. During your recent visit to the home of Jennifer's father, Steve Powell, where Josh Powell is living with Braden and Charlie, who was the first person to order Jennifer and you to leave?
SP

8. Does Steve Powell have a bad temper?
based solely on his reaction to our visit in Jan, yes.

12. Was Steve Powell physically abusive to his children?
SP is controlling and self-centered.

hollyblue
04-17-2010, 07:14 PM
TYVM for the information.
I just have questions regarding the locks on the back and front doors? Were they both deadbolt---single or double? Or just the kind you turn the little button? TIA

ETA: Do you know if all the windows were locked when LE and Jennifer entered the house? I guess LE would have checked that before they broke the window, but you never know if one was just stuck really well. And no.....I'm not a burglar. :)

I have always had the inkling that Josh passed a key to SOMEONE.

RayO
04-18-2010, 11:11 PM
Thanks so much for answering some of these questions, its so much better than guesses or speculation. I appreciate your candor and understand about not answering them all.

Regarding one big boy toy: it was reported that some of the equipment that was moved out of Powell household included some tanks, such as those containing welding gases (like MAPP, acetylene, or oxygen). Did you see those? Do you know when he might have purchased those?

Vegas Bride
04-20-2010, 04:50 PM
Kgraves thank you so much for answering the questions you can! :)
This has to be such a terrible and difficult time for your family.

Could you give us any insight into SP, can he actually be happy to have so many adult children under his roof, is he really so controlling he would not want them to branch out to make lives for themselves which would take some independence?

Did the family see any signs that something like this could ever happen or was much of the control etc kept quiet from the family?

Do you know what plans Susan had made if she was going to leave Josh? Was she wanting to move back to be near her family or did she want to stay in Utah and keep her job etc?

VB

PickieChickie
05-10-2010, 10:47 AM
Regarding Josh Powell's alleged trip to West Valley City, Utah on May 6, 2010

1. Did Josh visit his sister, Jennifer Graves?

2. Did Josh visit his mother?

3. Did Josh fly to West Valley City?

4. Did Josh drive the van?

5. Did Josh rent a vehicle?

6. How long was Josh in West Valley City?

7. Why was Josh in West Valley City?

8. If Josh flew, who picked him up at the airport?

9. Did Josh Powell speak with anyone representing the West Valley City Police Department?

10. Did anyone know in advance he was coming to West Valley City?

11. Did Josh bring sons with him?

12. Where did Josh stay while in West Valley City?

13. Did Josh visit Kirsii and John Hellewell?

14. Did Josh rent and drive a U-Haul truck?

15. Did Josh go to his home to pick up more items to bring back to Washington?

16. Does anyone have any details about Josh's visit to West Valley City they can provide that is not covered by the questions posed above?

gwenabob
08-26-2011, 08:49 PM
I am bumping this thread because it has a LOT of good background info on JP and SP directly from Josh's brother in law, Kirk Graves.

hollyblue
08-27-2011, 02:53 AM
I am bumping this thread because it has a LOT of good background info on JP and SP directly from Josh's brother in law, Kirk Graves.

How ironic...I was just "digging" for info and found myself back to this old thread too...after glancing at google maps and seeing the routes from Puyallap to Ely. Remember all the talk about JP having a possible uncle with the initials RP who worked as commander of forensics for ISP? Kirk and Jen wasn't aware of him, if it was true...and stated SP's father had been married 4x and his mother twice. SP definitely has a "twin" out there...and he just happens to have the last name Powell. I found his pic while googling images of Powell back in Feb'10. Some of the pages on the web have since gone bye bye.

la_cavalière
08-27-2011, 09:59 AM
Where was SP when Susan disappeared? I have seen several people ask this question, but unless I missed it, I haven't seen the answer.

pip
08-28-2011, 07:58 PM
Hopefully we can find out 2 things:

1. Where was SP when Susan disappeared?
2. When did SP first arrive in Utah after Susan disappeared?

Thanks!
Pip

diphi
08-28-2011, 08:32 PM
Hopefully we can find out 2 things:

1. Where was SP when Susan disappeared?
2. When did SP first arrive in Utah after Susan disappeared?

Thanks!
Pip

Seriously, anyone know when SP first showed up in UT? Was it ever even reported he was in UT? I really don't recall anyone saying he ever showed up in WVC at any time. Josh's mother showed up for a brief time and helped a bit, but I just don't recall that his dad was physically present at any time after the camping trip.

imo

la_cavalière
08-28-2011, 08:54 PM
Seriously, anyone know when SP first showed up in UT? Was it ever even reported he was in UT? I really don't recall anyone saying he ever showed up in WVC at any time. Josh's mother showed up for a brief time and helped a bit, but I just don't recall that his dad was physically present at any time after the camping trip.

imo

Why don't we have the answer to this? Why has no journalist asked this question of SP or JP or one of the family members????