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Billylee
03-21-2010, 01:34 PM
This woman has a Christmas wreath pin on. Was this an office Christmas party maybe? Like maybe somewhere where Acala was working? Anyone go missing last seen at a Christmas party?

http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/01801.jpg

Redbird
03-27-2010, 03:55 PM
This background also reminds me of a hospital waiting area.

RubyRed
03-27-2010, 05:26 PM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-j3KQ2okBmw/S5smLSvmjzI/AAAAAAAADCk/D1Qlfmseufg/s512/01801.jpg

http://picasaweb.google.com/primewriternews/RodneyAlcalaPhotos?feat=flashalbum#544799014968666 0914


Does look like a waiting room.

Sleuthster
03-27-2010, 06:52 PM
Maybe a group session like AA or something like that?

cutegirltoo
03-27-2010, 06:57 PM
From what I know about AA and group therapy, they would not want someone snapping pictures during a meeting. JMO
What about a wedding reception? That fits with his "photographer" persona.

arcana07
03-27-2010, 07:47 PM
Hi there -- first time poster here and I must confess I won't be of much use, but I have to say that I have always felt that that photo was taken in a waiting room, yes, but of a doctor's office. The carpeting reminds me of the carpeting I'd see when I accompanied my grandparents to their doctor's appointments in the early '80s and I could be wrong but I do believe there's an artistic print hanging on the wall portrayed far across the room, akin to the prints seen in some doctor's office waiting rooms. And I could be wrong but I swear that the person in jeans sitting cross legged is sitting on a plush couch or loveseat akin to those I also remember being in some doctor's office waiting rooms.

I don't believe there would be these features in a hospital waiting room. I've only ever remembered hospital waiting rooms having linoleum floors (easier to clean) and being lit with bright fluorescent lighting (it looks to me in the photo that the lighting in this waiting room is coming from regular table lamps giving off a more yellowish light). As for the glass the woman (who looks like she'd have been a receptionist or office manager to me) is holding, I would think that if this photo were taken in a hospital she'd be more likely to be drinking out of a styrofoam or paper (with a waxed interior) cup instead of a glass that looks more like something she might've taken with her from home. Maybe Alcala was, er, *intrigued* by one of the office staff working for a doctor he saw?

carbuff
03-27-2010, 07:52 PM
I guess it's too nice to be the waiting room of a probation office.

Billylee
03-27-2010, 07:53 PM
Modeling agency? Just a thought.

indiana
03-27-2010, 09:15 PM
I thought it looked like a university setting - library, common room etc but that doesn't explain the glass she is holding.

Kimster
03-27-2010, 10:11 PM
Arcana07!!! I am so glad you've joined us!!!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j83/Kimba4jc/LogDetective-160x160.gif

frankr
05-02-2010, 11:29 AM
If you look closely, there is a Christmas tree behind her. You can see it behind her head, it has white (or yellow) lights and a reflective metallic decoration on top, my guess is that it's a star.

I have another theory on where they are, I think it is an office and it's the office Christmas party.

From 1975 to 1995 my dad worked in a very similar office at a bank. When you entered their section of the floor, there was a large open space where the secretaries sat. There was also chairs and couches where people with appointments could wait. The offices (like my dad's) were arrayed around the outside of the main room (since the execs got the windows, and of course doors on their offices).

If you've ever watched the show Mad Men, the environment is basically the same as in that picture. Secretaries in the common area with just a desk, some chairs for waiting for the execs, and executive offices around the outside so that they could have windows.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Redbird
05-02-2010, 01:36 PM
This is my absolutely worthless two cents--I first said hospital waiting room because it looks exactly like our local hospital waiting area where you go to have lab tests. But I don't think they had carpeted areas like that back then.

Billylee
05-02-2010, 01:58 PM
If you look closely, there is a Christmas tree behind her. You can see it behind her head, it has white (or yellow) lights and a reflective metallic decoration on top, my guess is that it's a star.

I have another theory on where they are, I think it is an office and it's the office Christmas party.

From 1975 to 1995 my dad worked in a very similar office at a bank. When you entered their section of the floor, there was a large open space where the secretaries sat. There was also chairs and couches where people with appointments could wait. The offices (like my dad's) were arrayed around the outside of the main room (since the execs got the windows, and of course doors on their offices).

If you've ever watched the show Mad Men, the environment is basically the same as in that picture. Secretaries in the common area with just a desk, some chairs for waiting for the execs, and executive offices around the outside so that they could have windows.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Because of her pin, that's what I said too, but I think you're right I think that's a Christmas tree, we one of those ornament spindle tops. Good eye!

frankr
05-02-2010, 02:45 PM
This is my absolutely worthless two cents--I first said hospital waiting room because it looks exactly like our local hospital waiting area where you go to have lab tests. But I don't think they had carpeted areas like that back then.

I disagree with the hospital idea for 2 reasons:

1) I don't think that they would carpet the floor. It would be hard to clean blood, puke, etc out of carpet, and it's impossible to disinfect.

2) The offices along the outside all are very open with glass everywhere. Hospitals and lab test places would have a much more private area where the could meet patients.

But who knows, the 70s were a strange time, it could be an elementary school for all I know.

HockeyGirl
05-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Also most of the people in the photo appear to be women.

I agree my first thought when I saw this was a doctor's office.

Filly
05-02-2010, 09:15 PM
Could this be from when he worked at the LA Times?

Remember the woman worked there said she was young and he showed her pictures of the naked girls. She asked what their mothers thought of it and he said the mom's asked them to take them. The woman said back then being young and free love and all that she never again questioned it.

Or maybe but I don't think so from when he worked as a Blue Shield guard? I think it was a big company back then. This woman's glasses what circa? Late 70's?

Redbird
05-03-2010, 06:54 PM
I was going to mention Blue Cross Blue Shield. Do we know that he worked there as a guard. Has it been verified?

xlurker
05-03-2010, 10:47 PM
I don't know that this is a possibility, but I was looking at people who went missing in December and found this one. Gloria Jean Baird http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2327dfga.html It would be hard to say if it was a possibility but I wanted to post it to see if anyone thought if might be possible.

Filly
05-04-2010, 12:05 AM
I was going to mention Blue Cross Blue Shield. Do we know that he worked there as a guard. Has it been verified?

Not 100% sure, but I think it was he was employed by a security firm named "Blue Shield". Not a guard at Blue Cross/Blue Shield.

Billylee
05-04-2010, 12:42 PM
I don't know that this is a possibility, but I was looking at people who went missing in December and found this one. Gloria Jean Baird http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2327dfga.html It would be hard to say if it was a possibility but I wanted to post it to see if anyone thought if might be possible.

The height and weight look about right to me and that picture of Gloria is 3 years earlier than she went missing, so yes who knows. It does say she has a scar on the right side of her chin, and I don't see one in Alcala photo, but who knows how visible it is, especially if it's under makeup. She did go missing from a New Year's Eve Party. But I wonder if someone would still be wearing a Christmas wreath pin on New Years Eve? I still think this is an office Christmas party somewhere. And if you look at the girl's shoes sitting behind her they are open-toed, I have a feeling this is a picture from CA somewhere where the weather is warmer at Christmas time.

But anything is possible. He was on the lamb in 69. We still don't know where he was stationed in the Army in 1963, if it was GA, then that would be a tie in to the area.

tatertot
05-05-2010, 08:08 AM
That looks like your standard plastic, reuseable cafeteria cup to me. Maybe this office had its own food service?

Claudette
05-08-2010, 05:22 PM
The glass looks like it is actually one of those plastic "glasses" you can still get at the diners that are still stuck in the 70s. They have a bumpy texture. Usually red or amber.

reasypeasy
06-08-2011, 08:35 AM
I wonder... could she be Mary Louise Watkins?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1149dfca.html

That would make it potentially 1978 for that Xmas party. I guess it would be too much to hope that she is pictured there at 600 Coffee Road where her car was found parked?

If she is, then because she disappeared with $28,000 she may be an exception to the general rule that Alcala did his killing mainly out of some sort of sexually fuelled narcissistic rage. When Mary went missing Alcala was most likely working out how to go on the run in a more permanent manner... a supply of cash would certainly help with that. Did the police find a stash of cash anywhere in Alcala's stuff?

norest4thewicked
06-08-2011, 07:13 PM
**UPDATE** This girl has been identified by LE as being alive. No other info or name.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-18559_162-10004959-93.html?tag=page;next