Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #20

[philamena]

I found this report in the Guardian that contradicts what someone posted about snuff films being an urban legend.

British link to 'snuff' videos
published October 1, 2000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4070446,00.html

I'm starting to think there's a possibility of "Russian type" as being a lot more violent then *advertiser censored* that's not classified as "Russian". I could be totally off base though.

You're right Liz.
Snuff films are not an Urban Legend. Sadly they are very real.
In the 1960's and 70's there was a more or less 'secret sect' of people in the US who made and watched those films. In order for a film to be a snuff film the female had to be murdered. :furious:
There was a case years ago that involved a high ranking state official who arranged to pay 30,000.00 for a woman he 'picked' to be in the snuff film.
She of course had no idea what was going on but she was killed during the filming. The official was charged with felon but pled down to a lesser offense.

 

[LI_Mom]

Apparently it is, if the study I linked is accurate.

Nowadays, one can buy videocassettes with child *advertiser censored* at practically any railway station or marketplace in these towns. Prices for child *advertiser censored* on the Moscow market are practically the same as for a licensed film cassette, 165 to 170 roubles (US$6-7); huge turnover makes these low prices possible.

It appears to be readily available in the shops, and is sold in so much volume that the prices are kept low.

How could that happen if there was any kind of stringent enforcement of child *advertiser censored* laws?

And look at how easy it is to find CP in the USA.... that doesn't mean the govt. isn't fighting it... just that they can't keep up with the proliferation.

I suspect people who are into CP know exactly where to go to buy it.... no matter what country they live in.

 

[Liz]

That's unfair.

Russia & the USA have been working together to battle CP.

I'd think the vast majority of countries DO not turn a blind eye to child *advertiser censored* but we all have varying degrees of how effective we are at searching out offenders & prosecuting them.

This is not some above ground enterprise that is easy to monitor.

From what I've read, it's not really unfair. It seems that Russia's *advertiser censored* and child *advertiser censored* laws are very lax; as well as the claim that they lack funding to prosecute.

This article is from 2002 but it states that possession of *advertiser censored* is not illegal but trafficking is; although their laws make no differentiation between adult and child *advertiser censored*! The sentence for either is the same as for petty theft ... a maxiumum of 2 years or less!

Unless Russian child *advertiser censored* laws have been changed significantly, I don't think Diane's statement is that unfair, really.

 

[philamena]

http://www.vnews.com/07122008/4948035.htm

A criminal charge was dropped in 1985 when the girl refused to testify. In recent weeks, police have filed affidavits that say Jacques, over the course of five years, repeatedly sexually assaulted another girl whom he knew, beginning when she was 9 years old.
The abuse of that girl, now 14, ended only in recent weeks, the affidavits say. Authorities initially charged Jacques in connection with those allegations, but dropped that charge to focus on the kidnapping charge.

 

[marly56]

In the Gagnon affidavit, RG admitted to having 5 years worth of "Russian" type child *advertiser censored*.

If anyone please explain what that means ("Russian type"), I'd really appreciate it!

i think it means ''the black market'' organized crime

 

[Hailiejade77]

http://www.vnews.com/07122008/4948035.htm

"A criminal charge was dropped in 1985 when the girl refused to testify. In recent weeks, police have filed affidavits that say Jacques, over the course of five years, repeatedly sexually assaulted another girl whom he knew, beginning when she was 9 years old.
The abuse of that girl, now 14, ended only in recent weeks, the affidavits say. Authorities initially charged Jacques in connection with those allegations, but dropped that charge to focus on the kidnapping charge."


I have a question,... since they dropped the charges of sexual abuse on AR,.. after he gets his sentence for Brooke's kidnapping and murder, can they charge him for the sexual abuse afterwards??? (Like a double sentence, so they can make sure he NEVER sees the light of day again)

 

[DianeB]

Here's an interesting news story dating back from 2001. It's a transcript of an Australian news show discussing a child *advertiser censored* ring discovered in Texas.

Australian Anti-Child *advertiser censored* campaigners say they are shocked and not surprised that US authorities have uncovered what is believed to be the biggest child *advertiser censored* business in America if not the world.

A quarter of a million people regularly logged on to the Texas based Internet company Landslide Productions. For a fee it gave subscribers access to child *advertiser censored* websites in Russia and Indonesia.

So far 100 of the subscribers have been arrested. US law enforcers say more arrests will follow.

MICHAEL VINCENT: Landslide Productions was able to earn close to $3 million a month from subscribers hungry to view pornographic images of children.

Of those Americans arrested so far, one subscriber, a 39-year-old man, worked at a psychiatric hospital for sexually abused children. Another, a 36-year-old computer consultant, is accused of producing videos depicting abuse of young girls including a four-year-old.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s343946.htm

 

[Liz]

i think it means ''the black market'' organized crime

Maybe I'm missing something but I'd assume that all Russian child *advertiser censored* would be the "black market", and some or most of that would be attributed to "organized crime". But thanks - you could be right!

 

[LI_Mom]

From what I've read, it's not really unfair. It seems that Russia's *advertiser censored* and child *advertiser censored* laws are very lax; as well as the claim that they lack funding to prosecute.

This article is from 2002 but it states that possession of *advertiser censored* is not illegal but trafficking is; although their laws make no differentiation between adult and child *advertiser censored*! The sentence for either is the same as for petty theft ... a maxiumum of 2 years or less!

Unless Russian child *advertiser censored* laws have been changed significantly, I don't think Diane's statement is that unfair, really.

Strict laws don't seem to make of a difference when it comes to murder or other violent crimes. Is it reasonable to think it will impact CP??


Here's another interesting link:

http://www.out-law.com/page-6710


Almost half (47%) of the reported child abuse websites turned out to be commercial Pay-Per-View sites – 70% of which are hosted in Russia or the US. In fact, says the IWF, in 2005 40% of all child abuse content was traced to the US and 28% was found to be from Russia. Seventeen percent was traced to Asian countries and 13% to Europe.

 

[Busylady]

I have been wondering why no charges for KG. I guess they would have to prove he knew there was evidence in the safe pertaining to this crime in order to charge him?

 

[MoonFlwr]

"A criminal charge was dropped in 1985 when the girl refused to testify. In recent weeks, police have filed affidavits that say Jacques, over the course of five years, repeatedly sexually assaulted another girl whom he knew, beginning when she was 9 years old.
The abuse of that girl, now 14, ended only in recent weeks, the affidavits say. Authorities initially charged Jacques in connection with those allegations, but dropped that charge to focus on the kidnapping charge."


I have a question,... since they dropped the charges of sexual abuse on AR,.. after he gets his sentence for Brooke's kidnapping and murder, can they charge him for the sexual abuse afterwards??? (Like a double sentence, so they can make sure he NEVER sees the light of day again)

That was my first thought, too!

Does that mean, they have just temporarily set those charges to one side and can act on them later!?

 

[Hailiejade77]

Here's an interesting news story dating back from 2001. It's a transcript of an Australian news show discussing a child *advertiser censored* ring discovered in Texas.


http://www.abc.net.au/pm/stories/s343946.htm

quote from link "Of those Americans arrested so far, one subscriber, a 39-year-old man, worked at a psychiatric hospital for sexually abused children. Another, a 36-year-old computer consultant, is accused of producing videos depicting abuse of young girls including a four-year-old."


POSITIVELY SICKENING!!!!!! uke::furious::furious::furious::furious:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

More on Landslide Productions and the owners:

In August of 2001, a judge sentenced him to 1335 years in prison. His wife, Janice, who was convicted on 87 counts, received a sentence of 14 years. Reedy’s lawyer appealed Thomas’ sentence calling it harsh, and a judge recently reduced his time to 180 years behind bars.

Ironically, prior to their trials, Texas prosecutors offered Thomas and Janice Reedy a deal. Thomas Reedy was offered a 20-year term and Janice was offered a five-year term in exchange for helping authorities convict the actual people who were providing the child *advertiser censored*. The Reedy’s believed they had done nothing wrong and declined the offer. Their cases went to trial and they were convicted and sentenced.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/landslide/profile.html

She looks like she could have stepped right out of a church as a Pastor's wife. Not what I would have expected from a child *advertiser censored* queen!

LOL The actual takedown of those creeps and their business was called, "Project Avalanche" by LE.

 

[marly56]

I don't know that Russian child *advertiser censored* represents a specific 'type', but the consensus seems to be that its child *advertiser censored* industry has grown huge ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

From a children's rights advocacy site called ECPAT Int'l, based in Thailand:

http://www.ecpat.net/eng/Russia.asp

ETA: This may mirror the rise in organized crime (the Russian Mafia) that has flourished since the breakup of the USSR.

amazing how they have all the statistics,KNOW where its produced plus the cost and etc,etc.evil prevails where good men do nothing. I DONT BELIEVE THIS CAN NOT BE CRUSHED. ITS LIKE THE STUPID WAR ON DRUGS..think of the future of a huge nation like russia and all those poor kids who will grow-up so demoralized and spiritually damaged.where is the russian government?

 

[Hailiejade77]

That was my first thought, too!

Does that mean, they have just temporarily set those charges to one side and can act on them later!?

I just thought of this,.. maybe they put those aside because kidnapping and murder would carry the death penalty and sexual abuse of a child does not??? Although it should!!!!!!:furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious:

 

[LI_Mom]

That was my first thought, too!

Does that mean, they have just temporarily set those charges to one side and can act on them later!?

Maybe psychiatrists have asked prosecutors to hold off on that so AR can get therapy?

Once they charge him with that, he could turn around & demand a speedy trial & that could be a nightmare for AR.


On the other hand, it might be better (for AR) if they could make a deal with him to drop those abuse charges completely IF he cooperates with the rest of the charges?

 

[LI_Mom]

amazing how they have all the statistics,KNOW where its produced plus the cost and etc,etc.evil prevails where good men do nothing. I DONT BELIEVE THIS CAN NOT BE CRUSHED. ITS LIKE THE STUPID WAR ON DRUGS..think of the future of a huge nation like russia and all those poor kids who will grow-up so demoralized and spiritually damaged.where is the russian government?

http://www.crime-research.org/news/...censored*-homeland-security-officer-arrested/


Homeland Security Officer arrested in child *advertiser censored* sting

Date: April 05, 2006

Source: news.monstersandcritics.com


A high-ranking public relations official in the US Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday night at his home outside Washington for allegedly soliciting sex from a police officer posing over the internet as a 14-year-old girl.

Deputy press secretary Brian Doyle, 55, faces charges of using a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful material to a minor, the Cable News Network (CNN) reported.

 

[Hailiejade77]

http://www.crime-research.org/news/...censored*-homeland-security-officer-arrested/


Homeland Security Officer arrested in child *advertiser censored* sting

Date: April 05, 2006

Source: news.monstersandcritics.com


A high-ranking public relations official in the US Department of Homeland Security was arrested Tuesday night at his home outside Washington for allegedly soliciting sex from a police officer posing over the internet as a 14-year-old girl.

Deputy press secretary Brian Doyle, 55, faces charges of using a computer to seduce a child and transmitting harmful material to a minor, the Cable News Network (CNN) reported.

I can't take it anymore,... it is sooooooo disgusting!

 

[Carrington]

Here's an article dated today:
Russia and US child *advertiser censored*, the Buffalo News

http://www.buffalonews.com/339/story/182863.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have been wondering why no charges for KG. I guess they would have to prove he knew there was evidence in the safe pertaining to this crime in order to charge him?

They have to have some proof the safe and contents existed, don't they? I would have to assume this is why no charges yet.