is this the house?
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&c...405,-75.367437&spn=0.001048,0.002819&t=h&z=19
I am having a problem, finding any photos of the crime scene during the investigation.........
quote/......But she never did anything but call a secretary and "supposedly" ask "did my dad leave yet"? If she did speak to someone she was told yes, he left. Maybe Holly was still alone at this point. Are these phone records available. I think I was told yes they are. There would be many phone calls to verify. Why didn't they do verification of phone calls back then. Perhaps they did. We don't know all the details....end of quote
yes, i understand, LE will ask for tips information, but hardly ever in my experience respond to an email with any answers, even a simple yes or no.
so we rely on persons such as yourself, to help us visual things, and try and help create pieces of missing puzzles...i would be interested in only the calls on that day, from 3 to 6pm to verify calls were made and or placed and to whom around that time...............interesting i read, the repairman was there that day, fixing the lines, and was cleared, which was good......and the serial killer?, i think not, just to way out for him, he may have been a stalker, but that area, that time, no...
this link...
http://www.mindspring.com/~toxiccow/14_0009.html
was any useful information gain from it, as far as you know?
quote...If Holly was in her bedroom and the friend on the other line heard both the door bell ring and voices then Holly's room could not have been too far from the front door. She would have put the phone down on the bed, walked down the steps to the front door (you can see in the video) then she picked up the first extension phone she passed and told the friend "someone is her, i'll call you back". So now you have the extension phone hung up but the bedroom phone still off the hook. Am I making any sense? ...end of quote
makes sense, perfect sense, and if that is what occurred, if that friend would have stayed on the line, she could have heard things during the attack, for with the other phone still off the hook upstairs, and not being placed back on the base, the line should have remained opened......that is why i wondered about the phone records, to see if an open line was being recorded during the attack, hanging up the phone downstairs would not have ended the connection, the phone upstairs would had to be put back on base also, to end the connection.......i hope i make sense with that to you.
add on...if she put the phone down, went downstairs to answer the door, and it was a stranger, i don't believe the stranger would have allowed her to pick up the extension phone?, would have seen if she was calling for help, if she felt threaten, with a friend on hold, she could have screamed aloud or into the extension phone to alert her friend waiting on line upstairs, in the bedroom...............if it was someone she knew, perhaps someone that the friend on the other phone knew also, the conversation may had went like this.......i got to go* Karl/*Mary here, ill call you later?? *not real names.
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Then something changes here. Holly and her "visitor" go back into the bedroom for Holly to call her Dad's office...Or has visitor left and Holly is now alone????? Returning to her bedroom to make a quick call to Dad's office and put the phone back on the hook. That's where the mystery lies because she was apparently in a struggle at 5:20 and then she lay dying. The TOD by M.E. was something like 5:30 PM...I have to check...end of quote.
without the phone records to get an accurate time, and to be sure they occurred, and without inside photos to see the layout of the house that day.......its hard to say for sure or even speculate....You mentioned, the phone upstairs was found off the hook.......she could not have called her father, downstairs until after placing that phone back on the base, the one that was found upstairs off the hook, to get a dial tone to call out.......she mayhad been on the phone upstairs, heard the bell, laid the phone down, whent downstairs and answered the door, told her friend on the extension phone downstairs, i will call you back later, so and so is here..yes, i think the person at the door, was known to both the victum and the person waiting on the phone upstairs......for a stranger i dont think, would allow her to pick up the downstairs phone, would seem like a call for help........but i do sense she would have said to the caller waiting, that so and so is here, ill call you back later......she never made it to bedroom again, where the phone was found off the hook, without the records to prove it, i dont think she called her father either,......WE NEED THOSE PHONE RECORDS VERIFIED
To save myself some time in searching, you know the layout of the home..........the kitchen, upstairs or downstairs/the bedroom with the phone off the hook, would that be up the stairs and to the right........the video is good, but does-not show much but the stairs, which was good to see........it would be a tremendous help, if there were photos available for viewing to seen inside the house, and where everything is, was after the crime was committed...........
that's all for now...........thanks for being here.