NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

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The remains of a Maine woman were among those found near a South Shore beach, law enforcement officials said Wednesday, saying she was the victim of a homicide.

At a news conference Wednesday at police headquarters in Yaphank, authorities said the remains of Megan Waterman, 22, of Scarborough, Maine, had been positively identified by the New York City medical examiner.

"The cause of death has been determined as homicide," Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer said.

"We're certainly not going to discuss the manner of death," he said.

Dormer and Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota said officials were also close to identifying the remains of the other three skeletons found in December near Gilgo Beach.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/maine-woman-was-murdered-police-say-1.2621220
 
Such sad news for the family of Megan Waterman. :( May she Rest in Peace.

Now, on to the investigation of this serial killer.
 
Well, apparently, Megan worked as an escort according to this article about her boyfriend being arrested for cocaine trafficking. I find that VERY interesting considering the Long Island bodies were found while searching for Shannan Gilbert. Ms. Gilbert was the missing escort that apparently freaked out and ran away from Joseph Brewer who hired her and lives close to where the bodies were found. Does anyone know if Mr. Brewer ever got his SUV back from LE? What has he been up to lately? I hope LE knows the answer to that question.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Maine-Scarborough-Akeem-Cruz-Megan-Waterman-boyfriend-arrest.html
 
I have a theory on Shannan Gilbert. I believe that she may have also been a victim of this serial killer, but has not yet been found. I believe that LE may solve her case if they use this case as a lead. Just a hunch.
 
I understand if you have to remove this- pasted Some of the article for reference since I am a Newsday subscriber.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/cops-gilgo-body-id-d-close-on-3-others-1.2621220


"We're very close to identifying the other three bodies," said Police Commissioner Richard Dormer. Police declined to say what links, if any, they are pursuing among the women.
Suffolk police believe the women - all found wrapped in burlap and dumped in underbrush over an isolated, quarter-mile stretch of the barrier island - were left there over a period of years. A Suffolk officer working with a cadaver-sniffing dog discovered the first skeleton on Dec. 11. Waterman was among those found two days later.
Police initially linked Waterman to the case because she went missing under similar circumstances to Shannan Gilbert, 24, of Jersey City.
Like Waterman, Gilbert worked as a prostitute and traveled to Long Island to meet clients she met on Craigslist, police and family members said. Days after the Gilgo Beach discovery, Gilbert was proved not to be among the dead, leading police to earlier question the connection to Waterman and raising the Waterman family's hope she could be alive. Gilbert remains missing.

Waterman's family said they were shocked by the news Suffolk detectives delivered in person late Wednesday morning.
"We're doing OK, for the moment," said Waterman's mother, Lorraine Ela.
Elizabeth Meserve, Waterman's aunt and one of the guardians of Waterman's 4-year-old daughter, wept.
"We didn't expect this," she said. Waterman would have turned 23 this past Tuesday.
Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota said forensic investigators have received genetic material, dental records and personal information from family members of the victims. Spota and Dormer declined to say if any recent information supported or undermined the police's theory, offered early on, that a serial killer is responsible.
Waterman was last seen leaving a Hauppauge hotel on June 6. She had traveled to Long Island with a boyfriend who acted as her pimp, Akeem Cruz, 21, of East New York, Brooklyn, police said.
Cruz was arrested last May along with three other men at a South Portland hotel and charged with aggravated drug possession for having 4 or more grams of cocaine, according to Maine authorities. Cruz was out on bail when he was sentenced in November to 20 months in jail. He is expected to be released from the Maine Correctional Center early next year.

Joe Brewer, Gilbert's client on the night she went missing, said Wednesday that police never questioned him about Waterman.
"I feel sorry for the family. I don't know Miss Waterman," said Brewer, initially a focus of the investigation but later cleared. "I pray for the family."
With Yamiche Alcindor
and Matthew Chayes
 
http://lostnmissing.amplify.com/201...cking-boyfriend-of-missing-megan-waterman-22/

SOUTH PORTLAND — A Brooklyn, N.Y., man faces charges of unlawful trafficking in cocaine base and violating conditions of release.


Akeem Cruz, 20, was arrested Tuesday after authorities received complaints of suspected drug trafficking from a South Portland motel room, according to the Maine Drug Enforcement Agency.

Cruz is the boyfriend of Megan Waterman, a 22-year-old Scarborough woman who went missing in early June. She was last seen at the Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge, N.Y., the weekend of June 5. Police believe Waterman worked as an escort and that she traveled to Long Island with Cruz for that purpose.
More at link.
 
At first I would agree he wasnt really a serial killer but then I had to think about the logic. He displayed a serial pattern in his committing more attacks after the death of his victim. If his intent was to rob there are way less risky way to do such a thing without killing . And he had 16 pairs of underwear under his mattress. Sex assaults being a motive could explain the risk, but it was stated robbery was the motive.

Also I never got the impression he was feeding from the media attention. What gives you that impression? I will admit I didnt even blink and eye at the case at first so I might have missed the showboating. The comment I mentioned above was made to the media by his brother.

(off topic folks sorry)
while i agree with you that markoff surely would have kept killing had he not gotten caught; a lot of serial killers start off stealing underwear and just that.
sometimes peeping toms, stealing underwear, are precursors to future raping and serial killing. it's been in many studies involving serial killers.

with his personality type being what it was, a narcissistic personality type, it's likely he got off every time the media dubbed him a moniker and he still hadn't been caught. it's also likely, imo, that his cockiness was what led him to be so bold as to not disguise himself in front of security cameras, etc. he just thought he would get away with it.

i don't mean to confuse you or anything, i wasn't meaning blatant "showboating", what i mean is more of a profiling angle that was done on him by professionals.
 
http://www.kjonline.com/news/maine-waterman-Scarborough-woman-confirmed-long-island.html

"Police confirm that one of four bodies found buried on a Long Island, N.Y., beach is a Scarborough woman who disappeared in June.

Megan Waterman, 22, disappeared had been working as an escort advertising on Craigslist. She was last seen June 5 at a hotel in Hauppauge, N.Y., where she had been staying with her boyfriend."

if her boyfriend was present with her in long island, did he wait outside for her while she was with her client? at what point did he notice she went missing? or did he just not notice or care really at all?
one would think he would at least know who the client was she was meeting.
coming from maine for a client is a long way.
 
Well my understanding is escort services are far different than craigslist advertisements. An escort service provides escorts/dates for those that request them. (At face value)

If the escorts work out other arrangements with the customer it's not something the escort service advertises. If she indeed worked for an escort service, the escort service should have a good deal more information on her.

So does anyone know the name of the escort service she worked for? There may be a connection to the other girls found. I would certainly be up in her last clients kool-aid, especially if he lived near-by.
 
(off topic folks sorry)
while i agree with you that markoff surely would have kept killing had he not gotten caught; a lot of serial killers start off stealing underwear and just that.
sometimes peeping toms, stealing underwear, are precursors to future raping and serial killing. it's been in many studies involving serial killers.

with his personality type being what it was, a narcissistic personality type, it's likely he got off every time the media dubbed him a moniker and he still hadn't been caught. it's also likely, imo, that his cockiness was what led him to be so bold as to not disguise himself in front of security cameras, etc. he just thought he would get away with it.

i don't mean to confuse you or anything, i wasn't meaning blatant "showboating", what i mean is more of a profiling angle that was done on him by professionals.
Thanks for explaining.

I am not sure he felt all that cockiness or enjoyed his crimes being in the news. He seemed to like keeping his secrets. The failure to try to use his narcissistic personality in a trial and his writing Megans name in his own blood before his death his me doubting he was narcissistc .

I just wondered if his comfort zone and excitement level may have maxed out
if he had been killing before ,in the fashion that the AC murderer had. to people with less risky life styles. He then changes his MO ,weapon etc..so now he is trying to get to a comfort level and hadnt got there before the victim forced his hand. I think his gambling habit took the number one spot with him and failures in that triggered other crimes.

So all in all I think he should be compared in some unsolved cases.

Anyway there is no way he could have been involved in Megans abduction and murder but it is scary to think how many people are out there who do this sort of thing.
 
I hope they are able to come up with some fibers or other evidence, clothing etc.
wonder how they were clothed? or were they nude? shoes? jewlery?

omigosh.
 
Well my understanding is escort services are far different than craigslist advertisements. An escort service provides escorts/dates for those that request them. (At face value)

If the escorts work out other arrangements with the customer it's not something the escort service advertises. If she indeed worked for an escort service, the escort service should have a good deal more information on her.

So does anyone know the name of the escort service she worked for? There may be a connection to the other girls found. I would certainly be up in her last clients kool-aid, especially if he lived near-by.

Some women run their own private escort services which do advertise on Craigslist or other similar places. But you're right, an escort service is just that -- a place where you can get a respectable date. You need to be intelligent, able to converse on a wide variety of topics with lots of strangers, well-dressed, and have good manners. Age, body type, and willingness to work after hours are not usually factors. I had a friend who put herself through graduate school as a paid date for visiting academics who just didn't want to eat dinner alone every night.
 
The remaining 3 bodies have been identified. All of the women advertized their services online. They are :
Maureen Branard-Barnes of Norwich, Conn
Melissa Barthelemey-Bronx
Amber Lynn Costello-Babylon NY
 
The remaining 3 bodies have been identified. All of the women advertized their services online. They are :
Maureen Branard-Barnes of Norwich, Conn
Melissa Barthelemey-Bronx
Amber Lynn Costello-Babylon NY

Meaghan Waterman_________________________Maureen Branard-Barnes
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Melissa Barthelemy_________________________Amber Lynn Costello
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So, now that we know they were all call girls, and that Joe Brewer likes call girls, does that put him back in #1 place as a suspect?
 
omigod...poor girls.

One wonders why they chose such a path in life. We must not judge--just offer prayers for their souls.

Craig's List makes it so easy for serial killers. It's like their Sears Catalogue. The girls get delivered right to their door--and to death.
 
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