I woke up in the middle of the night last night and thought what if LE really didn't have DNA from either incident and just went to the media saying they did in order to get the perp freaked out enough to flush him out. Does anyone think that could be possible?
This was in re: to people wondering how he could be so careless to leave his DNA when he was familiar with CSI.
I strongly believe that LE has the perps DNA from atleast one of the crime scenes, if not both(ie. Backpack scene and disposal scene).. Another indicator that they do have DNA rather than just a ruse is the fact that Ari Liggett was ruled out as Jessica's killer by comparing Ari's DNA to the perps sample collected at one or both of the crime scenes..
I go back and forth with it, not because of Jessica's body and items but because how do they have DNA from the joggers? Did they scratch him? I'm confused on that. However, I think AS would like to believe with all his "research" and semester of college (it's not even the end of 1st semester), that he was brilliant and would not get caught. He thought too much of himself and it made his actions sloppy. Just my opinion.
IMO there could be several possibilities that yielded the perps DNA collected from the Ketner attempted abduction..
- if the jogger was able to hold onto the fabric, or atleast even a minute piece of the fabric that the perp attempted to cover her nose/mouth with
- if in the struggle the perp grabbed a hold of any number of articles attached to the jogger while she was fighting to get away(ie. A watch, an ipod, etc)
- or what imo could be the case is that the jogger actually pulled or ripped away something on the perp such as leather cord type necklace that you might see a small, wooden cross attached to.. Thereby LE able to collect a touch DNA sample of the perps from the cross.
In taking this possibility a little further its my observation that the now popular screen grab seen in many news articles of ARS from the video clip where he is seen wearing a small wooden cross.. Its MOO that the cross he has on in that screengrab IS NOT THE SAME as the cross found at one of Jessica's crime scenes.. I believe its possible that ARS has several of these from either making it himself, having been made by someone else and given to him, or he has received them from possibly church retreats or the like...
My point is that I believe its possible that the small wooden crosses are something known to be worn by him for several years now(as is evident by the screengrab showing a much younger ARS).. And that if he did infact own and wear more than one small, wooden cross I find it plausible that when the Ketner attempted abduction took place that ARS was wearing one of the crosses(but NOT the same cross that was collected at jess's crime scene)..
Possibly it was this cross that during the struggle with the jogger that she was able purposefully or just inadvertantly pulled or ripped the leather cord around the perps neck breaking it and causing the small, wooden cross to either fall to the ground, or the jogger was able to grab a hold of and keep the small wooden cross from the perps neck.. This would be a very likely source for which LE could swab for touch DNA and receive a viable sample from..
Therefor not only is it the item that yielded his touch DNA sample, but also becomes a key piece of evidence especially when a very similar cross is found at the crime scene of Jessica Ridgeway.. This imo would have immediately been noted as a possible indicator that Jess's abduction/murder were somehow connected to Ketner lake attempt thus prompting LE to test the DNA sample collected from Jess's crime scene to the DNA collected from the Ketner Lake perp..
All jmo and hopefully was clear enough in my attempt to put into words the thoughts that are clear in my mind..lol..sometimes i succeed and other times miserably fail at making my opinion clear enough to be understood by others..
Random thoughts:
When AS confessed to his mom, he already knew LE had his DNA. Maybe he hoped his mom would help him leave the country or something, not turn him in. I don't think there was any possibility she would have, but AS may have thought so little of the crime and so highly of himself to believe it.
Whatever he put in the crawlspace was buried or in containers or at least heavily covered - to hide from view and to reduce the smell so it wouldn't be obvious from inside the home.
I think he had previously done allot of dismembering with animals and he was escalating.
Anyone who has had the misfortune to associate closely with a sociopath knows AS's personality. Sociopaths can have different interests, habits & motivations but the way they interact with other people is amazingly similar. There is no rehab for these people.
I highly doubt there was an accomplice.
I agree, stillwaters no accomplice here in this case..
As for the remains that ARS kept and supposedly hid under the home's crawlspace.. in the last 48hours it was reported at some point that the remains in the crawlspace were actually in the condition of having no flesh or tissue, but rather only bones..
This of course not at all consistent with remains that were right at only 14-16days old and I find it plausible that "IF" that is actually accurate that the state of remains was just bones imo a very good cause, reason, or motive for having intentionally went about getting the remains to the state of only bone would lkely be for purposes such as what you mention with the burial or complete containment of the remains... That making it possible to be able to keep the remains close to him, at his home, yet not have the serious issue of tremendous odor that would become present within just mere days of their being in the crawlspace.
With that said I personally have not seen anything further about the state of remains that were found under the home's crawlspace so, at this point it is merely speculation at best on my part.. But just putting out there ways in which he would have been able to keep the remains with him without the tremendous odor that would be present within days..
Question I had is why didn't anyone see him in the process of hogtieing her and he also says he strangled her, apparently while driving I think. How could that have happened?
It does not add up
RSBM
All valid questions with a result that I too am highly suspicious of being the least bit true or accurate of his "version" of how the abduction/murder were to have happened..
Initially in first hearing the reports that said that he had immediately strangled her brought about sad feelings of relief in knowing that she did not suffer the fear, terror, or pain that we had long since thought since finding her remains were "not intact".. But after hearing more of this self serving monster's version of events I came to realize just how very very unlikely they are to have occurred the way in which he claims they did.
It is just not even plausible that the events occurred in the way in which he claims simply due to the aforementioned details that you describe above(that I respectfully snipped for space).. I do not believe in a million years that he would have stayed at the abduction site a millisecond more than was absolutely necessary.. He would want to grab and go as hastily as humanly possible in order to put as much time/distance between he/Jess and the abduction site.
I believe that we will find that the version of events given by ARS to LE will be ONLY self serving and of very little factual detail..
All jmo, tho.
Good question. I would be interested to see if any SK's truly had good childhoods (not just what they thought was a good childhood).
According to the article that was linked before: "They [scientists] believe that
brain patterns and
genetic makeup are not enough to make anyone a psychopath.
You need a third ingredient: abuse or violence in one's childhood.
I found it interesting about the "warrior gene" and if you haveo that you may not respond to serotonin.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127888976
I agree with the basis of the theory re: contributing factors of the making of a psychopath killer(often times serial)..
I absolutely believe that by far and wide in looking at a wide range of psychopath serial killers that there are certain factors that imo almost have to be present, whereas other factors are not mandatory per se, but are often times found to exist in the make up and background of these type predatory criminals..and then there are factors that imo are not at all mandatory to be present but without a doubt if they are found to be present that they only further contributed to the predatory nature, as if somehow further fueling the already present psychopathology and predatory nature of the individual. IOW only exacerbating the decline of the individual leading to their actually following through with what had thus far only been fantacized about..
-Examples of NECESSARY factors/components-
- brain patterns
- genetic make up
- childhood abuse, severe forms of neglect and lack of nurture, severe shaming of the child, and/or violence either/both in witnessing violent abuses on family members or being the victim of those violent/sexual physical/emotional abuses themselves.
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-A few examples of other contributing factors that aren't mandatory but still are often found to be present(esp. in individuals of this present day&age)-
-excessive&obsessive use of deviant paraphilias of *advertiser censored*
-excessive&obsessive habits of extremely violent, often times comboed with sexually explicit content of games, movies, interactive playgrounds
-as well as excessive immersion of continuous stimuli of extremely violent role playing games
IDK anything for sure & I'm just jumping off Astro's post here. However, I read article from MSM that said DNA was found on backpack (and/or contents?)
Also, if my notes are correct, a 10/19/12 CBS4 article reported that the DNA from the guy arrested due to having his mother's dismembered remains in his car, eliminated him as suspect in JR's case.
I have always believed that the cross was from the site of Memorial wkend attack on 22 y.o. jogger. I believe it had perp's DNA, but that they found no match in databases. I believe DNA on that cross and on JR's backpack turned out to be a match, but again, not in databases. IMHO
Also, IMO, the only reason there's an Oct. 2012 date on the photo of the cross is that no photo was made of the cross until the DNA on it was a match to the DNA on a murdered child's backpack.
I agree with you that LE/DA's repeated claims of having the perps DNA are very much true and accurate.. And that the DNA profile extracted from the collected sample has already been used to RULE OUT Ari Liggett of involvement in Jess's case and has now been used to RULE IN Austin Sigg's involvement in Jess's case..
Regarding the small, wooden cross possibly having been found at the Ketner Lake attempted abduction.. This has been brought up as a possibility... But IMO we have LE's defining statement that the small, wooden cross(the one in the photo that has been heavily circulated in the last week via the media) is not only directly related to Jessica's case specifically, but even more specific they have stated that the cross was found at Jessica Ridgeway's crime scene.. For me that rules out the possibility that this specific, asymmetrical wooden cross was a piece of evidence collected from the Ketner Lake attempted abduction..
We know it was evidence collected from Jessica Ridgeway's crime scene.. Therefor the only issue not clarified is which of the known crime scenes re: J. Ridgeway was it found at(ie. The backpack crime scene or the disposal of remains crime scene)?
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ETA: my apologies for this being one of my rather long winded posts due to my attempting to get caught up:blushing:
I grew up, for the first 10 years of my life, almost exactly 10 blocks from where Jessica's remains were found... I remember playing on my street and a mile away at the park with my friends and I could never imagine being a parent now, and being a child then and being scared to go past my front yard. 
