January 20, 2013
Defence CIC direct examination
Jodi Arias-Day 8
Morning testimony
--Willmott asks to approach the bench.
--Afterwards Martinez is seen going over and speaking to Travis' family.
Direct examination begins
--Going back to when then ended yesterday's testimony.
--Jodi was getting ready to depart from TA's house. Prior to departing they decided to engage in a photo shoot.
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--Jodi thinks most of her stuff is in the car.
--Says she did not have a gun with her in the bathroom and was not holding onto a knife.
--Travis gets in the shower, she is taking pictures of him, they are trying out different poses, they were kind of laughing. It was a little weird because the bac
--At one point he was sitting, she was taking pictures, she was probably a few feet from the shower so that the water didn't get on the camera.
--She was showing him the photos and they were deleting some.
--As she moved the camera it fell out of her hand, she tried to catch it, it rolled into the tile. Says she was crouched by the shower at this time.
--Shge may have been on the mat or on the edge of the mat.
--TA lifted her up, yelling that she was a stupid idiot, and body slammed her on the tile.
--Told her that a five year old could hold a camera better than she can...down the hallway...
--Doesn't know why she didn't run down the hallway, the last time she ran he caught her so this time she ran into the closet.
--The last time was in the summer, there was an incident where he was really upset, she was looking for her purse, couldn't find it, she wanted to come over to his place and look for her purse, he sounded sleepy, she came over, the door was locked which was unusual because it is almost always open, she walks to the back of the house where there is a sliding glass door, she notices two people making out on the couch. She stops because she thought it was awkward. Assumed it was one of his roommates. Wasn't sure how to handle it. Thought she could walk in and just say sorry. The people were on the couch. She kind of ran. <live feed keeps cutting out>.
--She left and went home, it was too late to call, she decided to go over the next day, she went over the next day, he was in the laundry room stenciling stripes on the wall, she went in and sat on the washer (or dryer) and she asked him about him dating somebody else. He let out a frustrated scream and pounded the door frame. She was stunned as she had only seen his temper a few times at this point. She could hear some pounding noise. She went to his bedroom and saw TA pounding his head on the closet, he looked unstable and he muttered something under his breath.
--She finally said his name to get her attention and he screamed her name really loud and spun and looked at her like a madman. She ran, he ran after her, he grabbed her wrist and he explained the girl was a girl he met in Pheonix and that he probably wouldn't see her again.
--Exhibit 160, photo, says that she did not intentially take the photos. Exhibit 161, photo of the ceiling, did not intentionally take the photo.
--She was trying to avoid downstairs, he was freaking out, she rolled out to her left and ran down the hallway. Travis started to chase her. She was scared.
--She didn't want him to grab her again. Who knows what he would do as he had already almost killed her.
--Exhibit 70, Photo of Travis' closet, she says that she grabbed the gun from the closet, it was at the top of the shelf, not shown in that photo. Nurmi shows a different photo, Exhibit 69, JA points to it, up in the corner.
--She knew the gun was there. Knew it because she had found it one day, he would give her projects when she would clean, one day when cleaning she got onto the top shelf and found the gun.
--Nurmi shows her the dragging photo. She doesn't know how it was taken. In between the time she grabbed the gun she ran out of the closet, he was chasing her, they were in the middle of the bathroom. She thought it would stop her. It didn't. As he lunged at her she shot the gun. She didn't mean to shoot him, she didn't even know that she had shot him, he lunged and they both fell. At this point she didn't know he had been shot, they were struggling and wresting, he was a wrestler, he wrestled in high school.
--She is struggling to get away as she didn't want to get into on of his holds. He told her "I'll ****ing kill you *****".
--Getting back to when she dropped the camera she remembers him calling her a ****ing idiot and that a
--As he lunged at her she was crying and running and pointed the gun at her assuming he would get the idea to stop. He didn't stop.
--After the gun went off, she thought crap, now he is really going to be pissed, he was telling her he was going to kill her, and he had almost killed her before, there's a lot of that day she doesn't remember there are a lot of gaps, she doesn't remember the pictures but she does now.
--TA said "kill you *****" and he said that right after she broke away from him. She remembers almost nothing for a long time, there are some things that have come back over the years, it's confusing, there is a huge gap, doesn't know if she blacked out, the most clear memory is driving in the desert but there are certain little things that have come back in her mind since then.
--Has no memory of stabbing Travis.
--Exhibit 162, dragging photo, does not remember dragging him across the floor, just remembers trying to get away from him.
--Exhibit 73, Does not remember placing him in the shower.
--After running away from him she does not have any clear memory of what happened after that until hours later. She has a few memories but nothing is clear. Vague memory of putting the knife back in the dishwasher but she had put the knife in the dishwasher before. The knife was upstairs...she is assuming it because she doesn't remember...doesn't think it had been touched since he cut the rope.
--Also remembers she was in the bathroom and remembers dropping the knife and it made a noise, she remembers screaming and she doesn't remember anything after that.
--Remembers that she thinks TA was next to her on the floor, she doesn't know, she was in the bathroom.
--Nurmi asks what else does she remember? JA says "not much".
--Her last memory is being in the bathroom screaming, dropping the knife, she remembers what was going through her head. She couldn't take anything back, what had just happened, she couldn't rewind the clock.
--Nurmi asks if she realized all that happened, she just remembers dropping the knife and being very freaked out and screaming.
--After remembering that feeling and dropping the knife, the next memory is driving west, the sun was in her eyes for a while, she didn't know where she was going, she didn't have her GPS, hit a lot of stop lights and eventually was in the desert, don't know where, it got dark.
--Driving is the more or less clear memory after.
--Had thoughts about what happened.
--At the point in time where she was pulling away, driving away, she doesn't remember having the gun with her but she remembers throwing it in the desert.
--The rope that TA used to tie her, she took it with her, it went into the dumpster, behind a gas station, thinks it was somewhere after St. George.
--When she was driving...Nurmi asks if there was blood on her, she says yes, when she finally came to she didn't have her shoes and there was blood on her hands. She was in the middle of nowhere, she pulled over, she was really thirsty, she had a case of water from Costco in the trunk, she rinsed her hands off and she had a pair of business shoes so she got those.
--She used the water to clean the blood off of herself. She cleaned herself..she doesn't remember what happened to the knife as it wasn't in the car with her, she got rid of the gun and got rid of the rope after that.
--She doesn't know how full her realization was but she knew it was really and that her life was probably done now.
--Nurmi asks if she believed that Travis was alive or dead. She didn't know but she believed that he was dead but there was a part of her that hoped he was alive. She was hoping it was a nightmare that she would wake up from and everything was stil the same way.
--Says she still loved him.
--Says she still loves him now but it is a different love.
--After she cleans herself up and disposes of the gun she starts looking around for the charger that she thought she left and she started cleaning the car and the charger was under the passenger seat. Turned on her phone. She had no cell reception. As she got service she had missed calls and text messages.
--A lot of time had elapsed and people were probably wondering where she was. Travis was her priorty and other people such as Ryan were expecting her. She wasn't sure what to tell them. Gets to a sign that says Vegas is 100 miles away. Gets to the Hoover Dam checkpoint, she stops and pulls over and at that point she realizes she is in really deep trouble. She starts thinking about what she could do to delay the enevitable.
--Nurmi asks why did didn't call 911. She was scared and couldn't imagine calling 911 and telling what she had just done.
--She was scared of what would happen to her. She was thinking of what would happen, her family, herself, was thinking of having to explain it, how the day ended up, unfolding, she was just really scared, she was scared going through the checkpoint, she was scared she was going to get pulled over.
--People in Utah were expecting her, Ryan and Leslie, she knew she had messed up pretty badly and the enivitable was something she couldn't run from.
--Nurmi asks why she felt like she had messed up badly, he attacked her, but she didn't look at it like that, he had attacked her in the past and nothing happened, this time is was different.
--Nurmi asks if she felt a sense of remorse. She says she wanted to rewind the clock.
--She says she regrets taking alternative steps, (Nurm's wording), says she had a lot of emotions and mostly she was very scared and upset. She just wanted to die.
--Nurmi asks if she thought about killing herself, not at that moment but after.
--People are waiting for her, she knew that her life was pretty much over, but she didn't want anyone to know it happened or that she did it.
--She took steps to coverup that she was there. She did a bunch of things to make it seem like she wasn't there.
--Remembers when she pulled over at the Hoover Dam she called Ryan and Leslie, Leslie said that they called Travis to see if he knew where she was, Leslie said that she left TA a voicemail.
--JA called TA's phone to leave a voicemail, she was crying and tried to make it sound cheery, left a message, deleted it, then left another one, didn't sound right, tried again, was crying, recorded a message and listened to it and thought it was good enough.
--She figured that eventually his voicemails were going to be listened to and she thought ????
--After calling Ryan, Leslie, and leaving Travis a voicemail she kept driving, she realized in order to keep up the pretense she had to keep with the schedule. She knew she had to show up in Utah for the business briefing.
--The overall intent of going to Utah was to get to know Ryan as well as see places on the list and her photography.
--When she was driving from Vegas to Utah, Nurmi asks if she contemplated what kind of behavior he would expect out of her, she thought that she should be her own happy-to-go-lucky self that she always was.
--She tried to act positive, not emotional with Leslie and tried to act normal with Ryan. She acted like she just got lost, and she is kind of dinney anyway. Ryan didn't expect sex, Martinez objects, objection sustained. JA says sex is not anything they discussed. Nurmi asks if physical contact of a sexual nature would be something Ryan would expect. Martinez objects, overruled. Ryan would be expecting them to kiss.
--Did Ryan have the expectation that this time together would be romantic. She doesn;t know how romantic says she was going with hanging out and seeing if there was any spark.
--When she was in Utah, says she eventually kissed, cuddled with him and she went to sleep. She kissed and cuddled with Ryan, she had showed up at his house, hanging out watching a movie, was laying on a couch or a bed, watching some scary movie, and he was laying next to her, and she felt safe right there and figured if she didn't kiss him at all, she didn't know but wanted things to seem normal, like they were okay and she didn't do what she just did.
--Had followed Ryan to the business briefing, it was Thursday night, had to work Friday, just needed to get home, went to his house, set the alarm and slept them got up and went on her way home.
--re: Officer Goletti (spelling?) had pulled her over for her plate being upside down, says she did not put it upside down, she says she had told Ryan....Martinez objects, hearsay, Judge asks lawyers to approach the bench.
<Travis' family is shown during the break in testimony, Harold has his arm around Tanisha. JA's family is then shown, the aunt is smiling>
--Before officer Goletti pulled her over, she says that she didn't know her plate was upside down and doesn't know how it happened. Either it was that when when she rented it, or some skaters that were in the Starbucks parking lot may have done it, when she was in the parking lot she noticed that there was a plate in the lot so she picked it up, it was the front plate, she never checked her rear plate so she didn't know it was upside down.
--She did not have the tools necessary to correct the plate, she was going to ask the owner of the restaurant for a screwdriver but she guesses Ryan did it for her.
--After sleeping at Ryan's she kissed Ryan goodbye, they had fallen asleep on the lovesack and woke up when her phone alarm went off. Says they weren't making out like Ryan said.
--After she leaves Ryan's place she starts driving home to Yreka. This would have been early Friday morning. Was expected at work at 4 p.m.
--Nurmi asks her what was the plan? What were you going to say? She says she didn't have a plan but just wanted to act as normal as she could. Didn't know what to think...she just wanted to die.
--Nurmi asks if she contemplates killing herself and Martinez objects, relevance, judge asks them to approach the bench.
--Did not comtemplate suicide on her way back home, she wasn't thinking of it, she just wanted to die.
--When she went to Utah and when she was going to go home to Yreka, she had injuries, scrapes and things all over her ankles, says she cut herself downstairs before her and Travis went to bed, was getting water from the kitchen and dropped a glass and cut herself, had tht injury but it was unrelated, said when she pulled over in the car the cut had reopened, it was bleeding a little bit.
--When in Utah she thinks she said she cut herself, says the week before she cut herself at work badly, it was on June 1st.
--Gets back home to Yreka, gets there on time, or if she was late it wasn't very late, worked the rest of her shift.
--Probably saw her grandparents, had gone home and changed into her work clothes real fast and drove to the restaurant.
--When she got home she didn't tell her family anything.
--She tried to act like nothing happened and waited for the clock to tick down...to her arrest.
--Got back to Yreka in early June and was arrested in July. Nurmi asks if she ever contemplated suicide. She says yes, she took steps...she bought a gun...bought a gun from Don's Sporting Goods in Yreka. California requires a 10 day background check and for the gun to be registered.
--Apart from buying the gun she also began to prepare for...there were things that she didn't want to some out, so she got rid of the clothes, the boys underwear...she got rid of that. She got rid of the Spiderman underwear.
--She was going to leave the area, she was on the fence about suicide, she decided to move back to Monteray, so regardless of whatever came first, the suicide or the arrest, she wouldn't be in Yreka, it would be easier for her family if it wasn't right in their back yard.
--Apart from buying the gun, she had several phone conversations with Detective Flores. Those came to pass after she learned from other parties that Travis was dead. Martinez objects...leading.
--Jodi thinks she tried to call Flores on June 10th. Leslie encouraged her to call him.
--Jodi says was informed that Travis was dead when Daniel Freeman called her the night before. Says that Daniel didn't tell her that Travis had died.
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