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Here is an article on Oklahoma's only current female on death row. I think she may get company soon.

www.fourstateshomepage.com

Oklahoma’s only woman on death row loses appeal

OKLAHOMA CITY – Oklahoma’s only female death row inmate lost her bid for a new trial. Brenda Andrew was convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in the Nov. 2001 shooting de…
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ClearAhead said:
Yeah people who commit crimes never think they’ll get caught. Maybe someone was supposed to drive and hide the vehicle somewhere and failed to cooperate?
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I just don’t think there was any way, even if things went precisely to plan, that these morons had a chance.

Apparently they’re not big fans of Mark Twain, as they subscribe to the philosophy that the best way to keep a secret is to involve as many people as possible.
 
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The first execution under the new law occurred in 1990. From 1915 to March 2004, Oklahoma had executed 156 individuals, including three women. Between 1915 and 1966 eighty-two died by electrocution, and one was hanged. Seventy-three died from lethal injection between September 1990 and March 2004
www.okhistory.org

Capital Punishment | The Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture

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Oklahoma Court Schedules 25 Executions Between August 2022 and December 2024

The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals has set execution dates for 25 of the state’s 43 death-row prisoners, scheduling nearly an execution a month from August 2022 through December 2024. If carried out, the execution schedule, unprecedented in the state’s history, would put to death 58% of the…
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MassGuy said:
I’m leaning towards the two males, with the female assisting in some way. I’d be surprised if grandma was there.
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Ohh interesting. I’m curious to hear your thoughts behind this theory, especially the aspect of grandma being possibly absent during the final act… if you feel comfortable sharing at this point, of course.
 
MassGuy said:
I just don’t think there was any way, even if things went precisely to plan, that these morons had a chance.

Apparently they’re not big fans of Mark Twain, as they subscribe to the philosophy of the best way to keep a secret is to involve as many people as possible.
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However, with two victims they'd need more people to control them, plus maybe someone to stay with the kids.

JMO
 
Hestia's Fire said:
Thank goodness. At least they didn't do something to make the bodies irretrievable.
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I think LE being involved VERY fast likely prevented anything too major from going on. I wonder if what they did was what they originally planned or if plans had to be changed when LE was immediately in the area? I am sure eyes were on TA right away.
 
justtrish said:
I think LE being involved VERY fast likely prevented anything too major from going on. I wonder if what they did was what they originally planned or if plans had to be changed when LE was immediately in the area? I am sure eyes were on TA right away.
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That’s a good point, and one that further pushes the question of what the heck TA was thinking would happen, in terms of the investigation when these women were noticed missing right away.
But yes- makes sense that they would’ve had eyes on them right away and likely continuously in one way or another from the moment the paper trails (and likely local gossip) pointed LE right back to TA.
 
justtrish said:
I think LE being involved VERY fast likely prevented anything too major from going on. I wonder if what they did was what they originally planned or if plans had to be changed when LE was immediately in the area? I am sure eyes were on TA right away.
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I imagine the body location was where they planned, as they didn’t appear to do anything to buy themselves a great deal of time, which they’d need to carry out some of the more creative things people have speculated.

I think we’re looking at a pre-dug hole.
 
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