Hey Peculiar...just out of curiosity...SWAG (was someone a devil dog sniper?) not many people use that acronym. :clap:
The Duct Tape Match
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Hey Peculiar...just out of curiosity...SWAG (was someone a devil dog sniper?) not many people use that acronym. :clap:
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I must have missed that today in all of the excitement....wouldn't it be great if there are some carpet fibers from her trunk attached to that tape !
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Rumpole
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The presence of fibres on duct tape samples was mentioned in previous document dumps. Today I see reference on p 5586.
"Textile fibres of various types and colors" recovered.
The tape samples referenced are the one from the Anthony gas can, and three samples associated with the skull.
We still await results of tests on these samples.
IMO Any fibre comparison match here is significant because the tape is attached to the skull and so closely linked to the murder. Other fibres on or near the remains that match the Anthony home could be explained as expected from her association with the home, but comparisons with fibres on the tape link the skull tape (murder) and the Anthony home.
Nothing definite revealed in todays docs, but an avenue still open with great potential.
Rumpole
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It does look like traces of duct tape might have been removed prior to search, but why leave the piece on the gas can? Just a mistake?
LE did wisely swoop as soon as duct tape found on skull (Dec11th). That was while GACA were away at LKL and so had no chance to hide/dump tape etc.
Perhaps "little boy sleuth" had the for thought before then, or KC "thought" to get rid of tape while out on bail?
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Hopefully, the logo on the piece from the skull is 8.5 threads from the edge... just saying...
Rumpole
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Good point.
Hopefully, the logo on the piece from the skull is 8.5 threads from the edge... just saying...
But not the end of the world if there is some discrepancy.
I don't know whether single roll width or multiple roll width goes through some sort of printing stage? A single roll width "wiggling about" could end up with distance from edge varying a bit?
But I agree: 8.5mm would be nice.
Thanks for the photo work
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IIRC, the only Henkel Duct tape found in the A home/garage (to match the Henkel tape found at crime scene) was the tape over the gas can ? LE didn't locate a roll of Henkel tape at the A home ? IIRC, the matching trash bags and canvas bag were hidden in the garage, one item was up on top shelf, the other in a plastic bin. Someone hid the relevant items, and the only way Cindy, George or Lee would know to hide those things was if Casey told them...Hinky.
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It makes me ill to say this - and someone may have mentioned this already. I am skeptical about the chloroform/drugging angle but I could see KC murdering Caylee in a fit of anger.
My speculation around the duct tape fits with a spontaneous murdering of poor Caylee. I can envision Caylee being cranky, tired, maybe having a tantrum. KC is stressed and angry at Cindy and Caylee. I could see KC telling Caylee to "shut up" and then grabbing some tape in a fit of rage to put over her mouth so that Caylee would be quiet. "I'll make you shut up" I can see her grabbing a sticker and placing it on top of the duct tape - "you want a sticker - I'll give you a sticker" She may not have intended to kill Caylee on that day at that time, but she did.
I think the murder occurred in the A's home after George left. She grabbed whatever she could find to wrap Caylee up and backed the car into the garage and put Caylee in the trunk. She may have tried the backyard first (neighbor's shovel) but that would have been too difficult.
I need to recall the date in which the A's indicated the pool ladder was askew. I wonder if KC did this to create a possible accidental drowning excuse if needed.
Oh well - it is all speculation. I really wish we knew what happened to poor Caylee.
My speculation around the duct tape fits with a spontaneous murdering of poor Caylee. I can envision Caylee being cranky, tired, maybe having a tantrum. KC is stressed and angry at Cindy and Caylee. I could see KC telling Caylee to "shut up" and then grabbing some tape in a fit of rage to put over her mouth so that Caylee would be quiet. "I'll make you shut up" I can see her grabbing a sticker and placing it on top of the duct tape - "you want a sticker - I'll give you a sticker" She may not have intended to kill Caylee on that day at that time, but she did.
I think the murder occurred in the A's home after George left. She grabbed whatever she could find to wrap Caylee up and backed the car into the garage and put Caylee in the trunk. She may have tried the backyard first (neighbor's shovel) but that would have been too difficult.
I need to recall the date in which the A's indicated the pool ladder was askew. I wonder if KC did this to create a possible accidental drowning excuse if needed.
Oh well - it is all speculation. I really wish we knew what happened to poor Caylee.
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I think this is just a coincidence.
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yep now how could that be I think they can take that roll of tape and check to see if it came from the same tape found over the mouth on her remains.
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See how they're now paying for giving Zanny a key to the garage.
Ahh, if only they could've done things in hindsight. :bang:
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There were no prints on the shed doors either, so I surmised someone cleaned.
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The tape shown in the evidence photos that have been released of the gas can, is a very unusual, unique type of duct tape.
I became curious after viewing the pictures because in 35 years of commercial construction here in Florida, I have never seen duct tape with the manufacturer’s logo, temperature tolerance, model numbers, etc. printed on the face of the tape.
I sent e-mails to the Henkel Corp. questioning the type of tape shown in the photos of the gas can. I received an e-mail reply from Henkel identifying the tape as Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape”, which has been discontinued
Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape” was designed to “hold, seam, and seal HVAC sheet metal and flex ducts” according to company information bulletins.
Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape” held such a minor share of Henkel’s sales, it has been discontinued. A minor share, of a less than major share, of duct tape sales in general does not qualify for “the most common duct tape sold in this country” as stated by the defense.
If the Anthony's had work done to their home's a/c and heating system, that could have been the source of this unique type of tape.
I became curious after viewing the pictures because in 35 years of commercial construction here in Florida, I have never seen duct tape with the manufacturer’s logo, temperature tolerance, model numbers, etc. printed on the face of the tape.
I sent e-mails to the Henkel Corp. questioning the type of tape shown in the photos of the gas can. I received an e-mail reply from Henkel identifying the tape as Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape”, which has been discontinued
Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape” was designed to “hold, seam, and seal HVAC sheet metal and flex ducts” according to company information bulletins.
Henkel “Fireguard Duck Tape” held such a minor share of Henkel’s sales, it has been discontinued. A minor share, of a less than major share, of duct tape sales in general does not qualify for “the most common duct tape sold in this country” as stated by the defense.
If the Anthony's had work done to their home's a/c and heating system, that could have been the source of this unique type of tape.
This is some expert sleuthing. I'm both under and overwhelmed!
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BUMP! :woohoo:
I still bet a million dollars to a burnt match that the "Duct tape" and related evidence is the key!
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I still bet a million dollars to a burnt match that the "Duct tape" and related evidence is the key!
ther_beatingA_Dead
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(HP)Did you read this post?
(HP)Could the "Duct Tape" Really be the prosecutions "Smoking Gun"?Concerned Papa-Thank you for this post and for going out of your way to obtain this information!:blowkiss:
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(HP)Did you read this post?
Concerned Papa-Thank you for this post and for going out of your way to obtain this information!:blowkiss:
The fact that it's soooo rare to find duct tape with printing on it really narrows down the possible sources.
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BUMP! :woohoo:
I still bet a million dollars to a burnt match that the "Duct tape" and related evidence is the key!
(HP)Did you read this post?
Concerned Papa-Thank you for this post and for going out of your way to obtain this information!:blowkiss:
It would be nice if this were to be the case, but so far the only report we've had of anyone possessing that particular kind of tape comes from a local with no construction connection who (IIRC) purchased it from a home improvement store in the area.
It seems that at least at one point in time it was commonly available in the vicinity.
(Hi, Herc. Good to see you back.)
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42-I'm not always the brightest bulb in the box, but I thought poster CP was telling us that THE Henkle Duct Tape found on Caylee's body AND on the
A's gas can was Very Rare!!!
(P.S.-H was Here but for a Fleeting Moment...only to get his nose stuck firmly in the corner once again!) Argh!
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