FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #22

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#1) We do not have any proof Michelle was driving the hummer into the complex.

#2) The video LE released of Michelle earlier in the day at the drive through IMO was the last known sighting of Michelle and IMO that is why they released it.

#3) The idea of a carjacking was brought into this case at the get go...I believe (IMO) that Dale Jr. concocted that tale...and as in most lies I believe there was some truth to it. I believe he attempted to stage a carjacking.

I know this isn't much to go on and I could very well be wrong...but I can say that in my opinion I am not sure she ever made it to the condo. The condo trip could

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#1 LE told us she drove the Hummer in. I'm assuming they have better enhancement technology than I do; I wouldn't be able to tell by that surveillance.

#2 IIRC, the drive through tape was released because it showed what she was wearing.

#3 I don't remember Dale saying, or being reported as having said, anything about how she disappeared. Anybody got a link?

MOO. I surely could be wrong; wouldn't be the first time.
 
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#1 LE told us she drove the Hummer in. I'm assuming they have better enhancement technology than I do; I wouldn't be able to tell by that surveillance.

#2 IIRC, the drive through tape was released because it showed what she was wearing.

#3 I don't remember Dale saying, or being reported as having said, anything about how she disappeared. Anybody got a link?

MOO. I surely could be wrong; wouldn't be the first time.

#1) I do not remember LE saying that Michelle drove the hummer into the complex....would you be able to link that please? I agree that they have the technology to know who was driving.

#2) http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-p...s-court-mother/story?id=15411101#.T_rBmY7FUnU

Police released the video on Parker's 34th birthday to keep the case in the public eye. One of the 750 tips received so far led police to the video.

The video shows Parker going through a KFC drive through in Casselberry, Fla. three hours before she dropped off her 3-year-old twins at Smith Jr.'s home, the last place she was seen.
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#3) If you google Michelle Parker carjacking you will find a number of articles about the family & LE believing, at first, Michelle was carjacked. Here is one of them. I have no proof that Dale Jr. inserted the carjacking idea into peoples (family/LE) minds...I am just suspicious that he did because it would take the focus off of him.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/...lle-parker-thinks-she-may-have-been-carjacked
 
#1) I do not remember LE saying that Michelle drove the hummer into the complex....would you be able to link that please? I agree that they have the technology to know who was driving.

#2) http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-p...s-court-mother/story?id=15411101#.T_rBmY7FUnU

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#3) If you google Michelle Parker carjacking you will find a number of articles about the family & LE believing, at first, Michelle was carjacked. Here is one of them. I have no proof that Dale Jr. inserted the carjacking idea into peoples (family/LE) minds...I am just suspicious that he did because it would take the focus off of him.
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/...lle-parker-thinks-she-may-have-been-carjacked



Somewhere back in the threads, it was uncovered she had a private sitter who lives in the Waterford Lakes area. She picked up the kids from her and then on to DSjr. So, I assume the last person that saw her was the sitter.

If she stopped anywhere in between the sitter's and DSjr's, it's not known or hasn't been released. jmo
 
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We do not see Michelle driving the hummer into the condo...we see the hummer but we can not see the driver. IMO, it is possible that she had already been abducted and it was Dale Jr. or elder Dale or another accomplice driving the hummer into his complex. I do not believe this was a stranger abduction. But I believe the 'event' could have happened at the pick up of the kids.
I base this idea on a few things (clearly we only have a few things to go on, so I am speculating)

#1) We do not have any proof Michelle was driving the hummer into the complex.

#2) The video LE released of Michelle earlier in the day at the drive through IMO was the last known sighting of Michelle and IMO that is why they released it.

#3) The idea of a carjacking was brought into this case at the get go...I believe (IMO) that Dale Jr. concocted that tale...and as in most lies I believe there was some truth to it. I believe he attempted to stage a carjacking.

I know this isn't much to go on and I could very well be wrong...but I can say that in my opinion I am not sure she ever made it to the condo. The condo trip could have purely been for sticker removal/ clean up/ducks in a row for DSJr.



I've heard this theory mentioned a couple times here. I've always tried to wrap my mind around it, but never gave it much credit. One piece of this I hesitate about would be the text from Michelle's phone to her boyfriend around 3:15 about the song on the radio that reminded her of him. We know the Hummer drove by Dale JR's neighbors by 3:18. Would you say the 3:15 text to boyfriend was made by Michelle or her abductor?
 
I've heard this theory mentioned a couple times here. I've always tried to wrap my mind around it, but never gave it much credit. One piece of this I hesitate about would be the text from Michelle's phone to her boyfriend around 3:15 about the song on the radio that reminded her of him. We know the Hummer drove by Dale JR's neighbors by 3:18. Would you say the 3:15 text to boyfriend was made by Michelle or her abductor?

In my theory...the abductor would have sent the text, which IMO is both possible and plausible.
If there is any proof that Michelle was driving the hummer at 3:18?
As far as the pick up at the private sitter...I still believe a 'carjacking' of Michelle (or whatever the 'event' was that caused her to go missing) could have happened somewhere after the pick up of the twins. Any ideas if the sitter lived at a private home or an apartment complex?
 
In my theory...the abductor would have sent the text, which IMO is both possible and plausible.
If there is any proof that Michelle was driving the hummer at 3:18?
As far as the pick up at the private sitter...I still believe a 'carjacking' of Michelle (or whatever the 'event' was that caused her to go missing) could have happened somewhere after the pick up of the twins. Any ideas if the sitter lived at a private home or an apartment complex?

The sitter lived in a private home, JMO MOO

So, with your theory, how did the kids get to DaleJr's? I mean, if I'm reading correctly, you think maybe a carjacking happened with the twins in the Hummer after Michelle picked them up but before she dropped the twins off at Dale's? IMO, I would think IF a carjacking happened it would have been after the twins were dropped off. Unless, of course, she was carjacked by someone who was an accomplice...And still, that's taking a chance that the twins could/would say something (iirc, they were questioned by a DCF worker) or, if they were asleep, they'd wake up and see something...


JMO, the text to the bf was sent by Michelle because she included hearts, etc. IIRC. What abductor would do that, but then later send the Waterford text and just that one word? It would have to have been someone who knew Michelle was dating the bf, imo....and knew that the text asking where she was came from a brother or friend and not a bf.

All JMO MOO
 
#2) http://abcnews.go.com/US/michelle-p...s-court-mother/story?id=15411101#.T_rBmY7FUnU


Police released the video on Parker's 34th birthday to keep the case in the public eye. One of the 750 tips received so far led police to the video.

The video shows Parker going through a KFC drive through in Casselberry, Fla. three hours before she dropped off her 3-year-old twins at Smith Jr.'s home, the last place she was seen.

(BBM)

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I think the last sentence indicates that Michelle was last seen at Smith Jr.'s home, not at the KFC. JMO, that's just what I personally read into it.

As always, JMO MOO
 
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I think the last sentence indicates that Michelle was last seen at Smith Jr.'s home, not at the KFC. JMO, that's just what I personally read into it.

As always, JMO MOO

See...now I read that to mean that KFC was the last place she was seen...but re-reading it, I think you are right.

Yet, I feel very stuck on this feeling that I have that Michelle did not make it to the condo at all. IMO
 
See...now I read that to mean that KFC was the last place she was seen...but re-reading it, I think you are right.

Yet, I feel very stuck on this feeling that I have that Michelle did not make it to the condo at all. IMO

Nothing wrong with being stuck on that feeling. :). That's what we're all here for, to explore every single possibility. :).

But I do feel Michelle made it to the condo because how else did the twins get there? Unless, of course, there was an accomplice.

I wish LE would release more info.

All jmo, of course
 
The sitter lived in a private home, JMO MOO

So, with your theory, how did the kids get to DaleJr's? I mean, if I'm reading correctly, you think maybe a carjacking happened with the twins in the Hummer after Michelle picked them up but before she dropped the twins off at Dale's? IMO, I would think IF a carjacking happened it would have been after the twins were dropped off. Unless, of course, she was carjacked by someone who was an accomplice...And still, that's taking a chance that the twins could/would say something (iirc, they were questioned by a DCF worker) or, if they were asleep, they'd wake up and see something...


JMO, the text to the bf was sent by Michelle because she included hearts, etc. IIRC. What abductor would do that, but then later send the Waterford text and just that one word? It would have to have been someone who knew Michelle was dating the bf, imo....and knew that the text asking where she was came from a brother or friend and not a bf.

All JMO MOO

What I was thinking was that Michelle picks up twins and pulls out of the residence. Then, in another vehicle, DS Jr. & Sr. (or 2 people, at least one of which is known to MP) somehow (??) gets her to pull over...which she does because she knows the person. At that point...Michelle is removed from the hummer and put into the 2nd vehicle and DSJr or Sr. gets into the hummer with the twins and drives to the condo.

As far as the texts...if it is DSJr. texting...he would know not to send hearts and smilies on the text to her brother and if DSJr. sent the text to the bf...he would know what MP's text to the bf might look like, because he was a bf at one point and maybe he used to receive texts with hearts and smilies.

I realize, the theory that she never made it to the condo has some holes in it but I still find it to be a possibility.

I followed Michelle's case very closely in the beginning and then RL got in the way...so I have missed some details in this ongoing discussion. I apologize for that.
 
What I was thinking was that Michelle picks up twins and pulls out of the residence. Then, in another vehicle, DS Jr. & Sr. (or 2 people, at least one of which is known to MP) somehow (??) gets her to pull over...which she does because she knows the person. At that point...Michelle is removed from the hummer and put into the 2nd vehicle and DSJr or Sr. gets into the hummer with the twins and drives to the condo.

As far as the texts...if it is DSJr. texting...he would know not to send hearts and smilies on the text to her brother and if DSJr. sent the text to the bf...he would know what MP's text to the bf might look like, because he was a bf at one point and maybe he used to receive texts with hearts and smilies.

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My opinion only follows.

I have less confidence in Dales emotional abilities than you do. I think (MOO) that he would be unable to NOT slip something into the text that would alert Michelle's boyfriend. New love creates a chemical connection that can be easily jarred and Baby Dale's nyah, nyah, nah, nyah, nyah would give him away. Her not returning his texts alerted him; so, silence itself was a communication to him that something outside of Michelle's emotional make up was controlling her.

JMO
 
I bet Dale is sitting around thinking how smart he is to have pulled off the perfect murder...no body, no physical evidence, no witnesses. He's probably thinking he's just about home free....Wow Dale...you are so good you killed the mother of your children because you didn't want to pay child support and you couldn't live with her being with a better man. You must feel proud. You finally followed through on something.....on your promise to end her life... She deserved it right? After all Dale you called her an escort....though that's probably how you spend your money...on all those cheap men and women you cheated on Michelle with...You were jealous and angry with all you "did for her and the kids" and she didn't appreciate it. So where did you hide her? Man up cowboy! Enough is enough! All JMO
 
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My opinion only follows.

I have less confidence in Dales emotional abilities than you do. I think (MOO) that he would be unable to NOT slip something into the text that would alert Michelle's boyfriend. New love creates a chemical connection that can be easily jarred and Baby Dale's nyah, nyah, nah, nyah, nyah would give him away. Her not returning his texts alerted him; so, silence itself was a communication to him that something outside of Michelle's emotional make up was controlling her.

JMO

I agree Dale seems like the dumb jock type who would've slipped up when typing a text so the 3:15 text appears to be from our beloved Michelle.

It was bad enough Dale was boneheaded and typed "Waterford" or was that Dad slipping up? I also agree that Dale probably has about the same emotional capacity as a chicken. Speaking of chickens...what a coward Dale is! JMO
 
So when Dale lied to LE about Michelle going shopping he knew he needed to cover his trail. With the 4:26 "Waterford" text he knew had been sent...this would have helped confirm his side of the story had it not been for the pesky neighbor's camera and fact that she had already been shopping earlier in the day...but oh what's a few minor details to catch a snake in a lie?
 
I bet Dale is sitting around thinking how smart he is to have pulled off the perfect murder...no body, no physical evidence, no witnesses. He's probably thinking he's just about home free....Wow Dale...you are so good you killed the mother of your children because you didn't want to pay child support and you couldn't live with her being with a better man. You must feel proud. You finally followed through on something.....on your promise to end her life... She deserved it right? After all Dale you called her an escort....though that's probably how you spend your money...on all those cheap men and women you cheated on Michelle with...You were jealous and angry with all you "did for her and the kids" and she didn't appreciate it. So where did you hide her? Man up cowboy! Enough is enough! All JMO

Well Jazzmaster, I'm not so sure about this being a perfect murder considering the majority of the common sense thinking public believes he did murder her, even though she's only considered "missing" at the moment. A perfect murder is when LE are convinced you didn't have a hand in the disappearance and they haven't named you their prime suspect.

Plus there are likely other people who know what happened or who participated in this event. That's a big risk to take to cover up for someone.

What is the penalty in Florida for accessory to a murder anyway?

MOO
 
So when Dale lied to LE about Michelle going shopping he knew he needed to cover his trail. With the 4:26 "Waterford" text he knew had been sent...this would have helped confirm his side of the story had it not been for the pesky neighbor's camera and fact that she had already been shopping earlier in the day...but oh what's a few minor details to catch a snake in a lie?

Yes that text appears to be the brainstorm of someone who suddenly realized that if all communication from Michelle stopped prior to her arriving at the condo then it might look suspicious. Question is, where was the phone when that text was sent? It could actually have pinged from the tower closest to the condo or closest to the house on Rose Blvd. And there is another ping at 8:01pm that experts seem to think could not have been just the phone powering down. So what was that ping? Another bogus text that we haven't heard about?

MOO
 
Yes that text appears to be the brainstorm of someone who suddenly realized that if all communication from Michelle stopped prior to her arriving at the condo then it might look suspicious. Question is, where was the phone when that text was sent? It could actually have pinged from the tower closest to the condo or closest to the house on Rose Blvd. And there is another ping at 8:01pm that experts seem to think could not have been just the phone powering down. So what was that ping? Another bogus text that we haven't heard about?

MOO

That Waterford text also appears to be, jmo, because the person who sent it knew that Michelle had been in the Waterford area just prior to dropping off the twins. Kwim?

I heard about another text too, can't remember where.

All JMO, MOO
 
Well Jazzmaster, I'm not so sure about this being a perfect murder considering the majority of the common sense thinking public believes he did murder her, even though she's only considered "missing" at the moment. A perfect murder is when LE are convinced you didn't have a hand in the disappearance and they haven't named you their prime suspect.

Plus there are likely other people who know what happened or who participated in this event. That's a big risk to take to cover up for someone.

What is the penalty in Florida for accessory to a murder anyway?

MOO

Oh I agree it's not the PERFECT murder but I do bet Jr being as cocky as he is thinks he's going to get away with this. Too bad the case againts him is coming together so nicely IMO. Oh I can't wait to see the look on his face when he's in cuffs! Sweet justice will prevail.
 
That Waterford text also appears to be, jmo, because the person who sent it knew that Michelle had been in the Waterford area just prior to dropping off the twins. Kwim?

I heard about another text too, can't remember where.

All JMO, MOO

Yes and wasn't it established that the twins were likely picked up in Waterford before being taken to the condo? You'd assume that their father would know where the babysitter/daycare was. Wonder why he didn't go pick them up? :waitasec:

MOO
 
Yes and wasn't it established that the twins were likely picked up in Waterford before being taken to the condo? You'd assume that their father would know where the babysitter/daycare was. Wonder why he didn't go pick them up? :waitasec:

MOO

MOO Dale had a plan to kill Michelle. She knew secrets about his sexuality IMO and was going to "out" him. He probably took action before she could expose him. I still wonder about all of those Craig's list activities. I bet the final straw for Michelle was finding Dale with a man. Jmo
 
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