Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at 9/11 Flight 93 crash site

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When that plane hit that ground it was going so fast that the impact tore everything into smithereens... the engines rolled into a basin down from the impact and human remains were found in a 70 acre area. We are talking about 40 people in a tin can being slammed into the ground at an unimaginable level of brute force that it was spread over acres upon acres. No wonder she saw shimmery things and supposedly no bodies.


I don't buy what the lady is selling, it smells too much like another person using the horrible tragedy of 9/11 to prey on those that do believe or want to believe in the spiritual world. Mind you, I'm not putting anyone down that wants to believe her, that is between you and your heart...
 
Honestly no one called her a nut, and I think the possibility she is looking to make money is a valid one. I realize that someone said she sounded like one, which is not the same imo.

I just want to be sure both sides can be heard here. That is all. :)
 
I believe every author who writes books, intends on selling those books.

Maybe writing the book helped her process her thoughts.


JMO
 
Sleuthster said:
I doubt the fbi would be permitted to take pics of a crime scene with their cell phone.
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Did most people have cell phones that took pictures in 2001? My memory is they did not.
 
lizzybeth said:
Call me what you want...feeble minded, weak, a sheep, etc. I WANT to believe her.
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Your own post proves the opposite. The fact that you know you "want to believe" something is the proof you are neither feeble-minded nor a sheep.
 
:bud: I'm with you Kimberly. No name calling or insults necessary, ever, IMO. (I've posted that in many threads here, so this isn't breaking news.) Had to try out the new smiley I found today too, lol. Hadn't seen it before!

I'm a Christian, fully believe in God (including the Holy Spirit), the devil, angels, demons, etc. I know many of the scriptural references about angels and their work, presence, etc. I believe Colton's Heaven is For Real book is the real deal.

That said, there a couple lil red flags here for me, from the way the articles state this story anyway. I don't feel the need to go into them here, though. I'd have to read the book to really evaluate the claim...
 
That said, there a couple lil red flags here for me, from the way the articles state this story anyway. I don't feel the need to go into them here, though. I'd have to read the book to really evaluate the claim...
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For me too.
 
That she did not make this information available until she had a book to sell does not argue in her favor.
 
I am not a chemist, but, could it have been vapors from jet fuel?
 
Nova said:
I believe in ABBA.
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That's actually kinda funny since Abba is Aramaic for father (implying closeness as well) and used in the New Testament in reference to God. With your background, you probably know that. :)

So, I believe in Abba, but not ABBA; instead I choose Journey, faithfully. ;). The 80's rock, dude! :rocker:
 
Gardenlady said:
My dad was a huge Abba fan, and used to play all their 8-tracks (!!!) when I was very little...so I got a great laugh from this. :D
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Oh, good. I was afraid I'd be the only one who got the pun.

The refrain from ABBA's "I have a Dream":

I believe in angels
Something good in everything I see
I believe in angels
When I know the time is right for me
I'll cross the stream - I have a dream
 
I would like to believe what the Agent saw that day were the Guardian Angels of the children attending Shanksville-Stonycreek School that is located just beyond the tree line of the crash site.
 
Nova said:
Let's recall that the writer arrived on the scene three hours after the crash and claims (apparently the claim is hers; again, it isn't a direct quote) to have seen "guardian angels protecting the crash site".

Protecting it from what? Litterers?

It is the assumption that the lights she saw must be "guardian" angels to which I object. We can play "Maybe" all day long, but I still see no reason why a "legion" of angels was protecting little more than a hole in the ground.

(... But I will admit it strikes me as more than a tad random to believe we need "guardian angels" to protect us some of the time, only to ignore us when "it is God's will". If everything that happens is God's will, why do we need guardians in the first place?)
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This is just the type of thing I would question at Sunday School. The instructors didn't appreciate my curiosity, and obviously had no answers for me. So, they just gave me dirty looks, as if I were deliberately trying to cause trouble. I wound up dropping out and today I'm a proud Agnostic. The universe is complex, and I do believe there are many things we will never understand. So, angels may or may not exist. As frustrating as it is, for me it will always remain a question with no answer.
 
Cracka*Jaxx said:
This is just the type of thing I would question at Sunday School. The instructors didn't appreciate my curiosity, and obviously had no answers for me. So, they just gave me dirty looks, as if I were deliberately trying to cause trouble. I wound up dropping out and today I'm a proud Agnostic. The universe is complex, and I do believe there are many things we will never understand. So, angels may or may not exist. As frustrating as it is, for me it will always remain a question with no answer.
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I was told, "you have a fine mind, but you don't use it in the right way."

That was my last day in Sunday School (roughly 10th grade).

I think it's quite possible there may be normally invisible beings that we might call "angels". But I recognize we have no scientific way of identifying such creatures at the moment, so any belief in them is based on speculation and faith.

But since very bad things happen to good people every day, I am more than a little skeptical of the concept of "guardian" angels or that Jesus is consciously intervening for our benefit.
 
Nova said:
I was told, "you have a fine mind, but you don't use it in the right way."

That was my last day in Sunday School (roughly 10th grade).

I think it's quite possible there may be normally invisible beings that we might call "angels". But I recognize we have no scientific way of identifying such creatures at the moment, so any belief in them is based on speculation and faith.

But since very bad things happen to good people every day, I am more than a little skeptical of the concept of "guardian" angels or that Jesus is consciously intervening for our benefit.
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I had a similar experience in college-the professor escorted me to the door during a spirited debate and then explained there were other courses available that might just suit me better, lol. Oh to be young, smart and passionate like that again!
 
Oddly, I've had the opposite experience. As a MENSA member and a Christian, I've found that some nonbelievers, including a professor, were angrily flummoxed when I demurely pointed out a few flaws in their logic during vociferous objections to matters of faith. Neither "side", believer or non, has a lock on intelligence, inquisitiveness, or passion.

I only mention this as it seems there's an underlying vibe in the last few posts indicating belief means a lack of, or disdain for, those qualities, and that's unfair. I'm passionate about people and my faith, incredibly curious and always inquiring further, and truly an education & knowledge junkie. Not trying to say I'm great, I think everyone has different gifts and talents, just saying stereotypes don't fit. And, my church experience was that questions were embraced and the pursuit of understanding & knowledge encouraged. Sorry some others did not experience that. :(

All that said, as said before, I do questions bits about this particular story. So, an analytical believer. No :thud: needed. There are many others, thank God! :)

Besides, this is Websleuths. Sleuthing and analyzing is what we all do here. :websleuther:
 
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