Identified! NV - Washoe Co., WhtFem 156UFNV, 25-35, Sheep's Flat Trail, Jul'82 - Mary Edith Silvani

Babyslims · Mar 31, 2010

This ones a far fetched possibility but just incase

Belinda Vanlith
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2665dfmn.html

carbuff · Mar 31, 2010

Billylee said:
Question for anyone who knows, when they say "european dentistry" would that include Canada's methods. And does anyone know offhand what they mean by that in the first place?

I called my dentist and his quick answer, without knowing which specific country was involved was: different alloys, different cosmetic standards (Europeans are not so hung up on white teeth, apparently), different training, several different kinds of orthodontic materials, different construction methods for caps and bridges...

He also said, depending on what work she had done, it might mean work done in this country by a European-trained dentist.

carbuff · Mar 31, 2010

I ran across this woman while researching a different case, and remembered her face after Carl posted his sketch. Terri Bishop, missing from Texas in October 1981. She's an exact match on height, weight, hair and eyes. And notice the blouse she's wearing in the second Texas DPS photo.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/357dftx.html
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M4/5/20073:55:26PM'

Would have to assume she just left her Texas life, since being held captive by Lucas doesn't seem likely...

Charlie99909 · Mar 31, 2010

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2113dfnsw.html

Eye color is the only thing off abou these two. The noses are similar though. She would have a good amount of time to get from Australia to Reno.

Charlie99909 · Mar 31, 2010

Snap plus the history of association with a heroin king ping from new Zealand could make sense.

Mensch · Mar 31, 2010

CarlK90245 said:
Here it is.

Now, we need a Moderator to put a **WARNING GRAPHIC** label on the post title.

The sketch may be a bit "cartoonish" but it depicted a vital ID marker.
It appears (from both artist renditions and the morgue photo) the UID had a mole or blemish on the side of her jaw and above the outside of her eyebrow (both on her right side. That mark should be listed in a MP report if one was made. If not, perhaps at some point a family member would recall it/ that is why it is so important the "artist" notes all visible marks that may have been on the UID prior to death.
EDITED TO ADD:
I am looking through the thread as someone here said this particular depiction was "cartoonish" and I thought I was replying to it. Sorry, Carll if that was not you. I just jumped off the photo and did not read.

CarlK90245 · Mar 31, 2010

Mensch said:
The sketch may be a bit "cartoonish" but it depicted a vital ID marker.
It appears (from both artist renditions and the morgue photo) the UID had a mole or blemish on the side of her jaw and above the outside of her eyebrow (both on her right side. That mark should be listed in a MP report if one was made. If not, perhaps at some point a family member would recall it/ that is why it is so important the "artist" notes all visible marks that may have been on the UID prior to death.
EDITED TO ADD:
I am looking through the thread as someone here said this particular depiction was "cartoonish" and I thought I was replying to it. Sorry, Carll if that was not you. I just jumped off the photo and did not read.

Ok - Here she is complete with freckles and blemishes.

Mensch · Mar 31, 2010

http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/45737/2908714690045078242S425x425Q85.jpg

There is another feature about this sketch . This artist has her nose more narrow along the bridge. This feature can completely change the appearance of a person. Her nose appears to be badly bruised which would result in swelling. I think the artist allowed for this and drew her more closely than the first sketch which looks more like an enhanced photo by leaving in the swelling.

CarlK90245 · Mar 31, 2010

Mensch said:
There is another feature about this sketch . This artist has her nose more narrow along the bridge. This feature can completely change the appearance of a person. Her nose appears to be badly bruised which would result in swelling. I think the artist allowed for this and drew her more closely than the first sketch which looks more like an enhanced photo by leaving in the swelling.

You are right about how much the bridge of the nose affects one's overall look. I was working on another drawing of a young boy and could not figure out why I had him looking too young and more feminine. I finally found that a subtle change to the bridge of the nose made a huge difference.

Also, on the sketch in which she has her hair down, her eyes sit too low. That has a significant effect on the overall resemblance.

Charlie99909 · Mar 31, 2010

He drawings I refer to are a black and white on doenetwork of her face and profile.

Those are too cartoony for me. These are as close as I hope they could create, but we know how drawings are.

Carl could you possible compare faces with the doenetwork link I posted? A postmortem and this missing girls face? http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2113dfnsw.html

I'm looking at it and was just, wow.

CarlK90245 · Mar 31, 2010

Charlie99909 said:
Carl could you possible compare faces with the doenetwork link I posted? A postmortem and this missing girls face? http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2113dfnsw.html

I'm looking at it and was just, wow.

I don't think it's her.

Marion's nose is longer than WJD's. Her cheekbones extend laterally beyond her eye sockets, where WJD's don't. And her chin is more squared than WJD's.

Charlie99909 · Apr 3, 2010

So far nothing. Namus and doenetwork have nothing.

California doj had nothing as well. I'm at a dead end.

carbuff · Apr 4, 2010

What about the various state missing persons listings?

Charlie99909 · Apr 5, 2010

Nothing.

Maybe she wasn't reported because no one knows she's missing.

carbuff · Apr 5, 2010

That's always a possibility.

Would she fit the profile of any of the missing First Nations women in British Columbia?

What about overseas? If she was traveling, maybe nobody knew where she was?

Charlie99909 · Apr 5, 2010

Right now, I am no closer to finding her.

I could use charley project as I have exhausted doenetwork and namus.

I will find her. Even if I cannot solve the murder she at least deserves a name.

LovinTK · Apr 6, 2010

I've been looking for a couple of hours and I'm not finding any great matches. The only women I've found so far that even look remotely possible are these two:

http://charleyproject.org/cases/b/barker_linda.html

http://charleyproject.org/cases/d/durst_kathleen.html

LovinTK · Apr 6, 2010

I just found this woman and I kind of think that she looks like the UID.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/s/scholz_amber.html

LovinTK · Apr 6, 2010

http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/martin_carolyn.html

Charlie99909 · Apr 6, 2010

Those were some good links. But I feel their faces are not the right shape.

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