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Wait a second. There's a lot of misinformation here--in part because the pdf isn't the same as the calls. (And yes, they make mistakes on these things -not uncommon). First, on August 11th--he did not call 911-he called a non-emergency number that was transferred to 911. When the 911 dispatch operator identifies it as being 911 he specifically states he called a non-emergency number. Second, he never says grey bag--never--not once.That part of the pdf is a mistake. Third, he never says he saw anything behind the school--ever. He says he recently read the meter behind the school--but he never says he saw anything behind the school. Fourth, where do you get he was searching around on company time? My utility people have to go into the canyon on my property all of the time. He says in the calls: "We found a dead ...rattlesnack back there"...some time before this. So, he was there at one point as part of his work. We don't know that he was there on non-company related business.
 
She was wrapped in a white cover like a blanket. Yes, she was already more than half way to a skeleton. With her being a small toddler and in the florida heat, it would have been less than a month to be a skeleton. I can find you a link on decomposition where I looked all this up.

It's only two weeks for complete skeletonization of a child's body in an Orlando summer, per CNN forensics specialist last week. Unbelievable, but that's what he said.
 
Yes, and one deputy was scared off by a "large" snake so he didn't complete his search on one of those days. Yes, a deputy with a gun couldn't finish a search cause of a snake to find a little girl.

Just imagine losing your wife to cancer and then finding Caylee. Poor Mr. K. My heart goes out to him.


And it was a dead snake at that. Wonder what killed a four foot rattler....
 
Wait a second. There's a lot of misinformation here--in part because the pdf isn't the same as the calls. (And yes, they make mistakes on these things -not uncommon). First, on August 11th--he did not call 911-he called a non-emergency number that was transferred to 911. When the 911 dispatch operator identifies it as being 911 he specifically states he called a non-emergency number. Second, he never says grey bag--never--not once.That part of the pdf is a mistake. Third, he never says he saw anything behind the school--ever. He says he recently read the meter behind the school--but he never says he saw anything behind the school. Fourth, where do you get he was searching around on company time? My utility people have to go into the canyon on my property all of the time. He says in the calls: "We found a dead ...rattlesnack back there"...some time before this. So, he was there at one point as part of his work. We don't know that he was there on non-company related business.

Wonderful ..... conflict. Have a nice walk out of jail somebody!!:mad:
 
I do not use trash bags that tear apart. Do you? Anybody?
How common is that?? Mine are individual - no seperating.

I think the tear-off trashbags are much lighter weight and cheaper--like "leaf bags."
 
My notes...
Good Springs Drive... yet he is a Meter Reader... shouldn't he know the street names?

the singing... duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh duh....

sounded like he said he worked for "curry ford" ... anybody else hear that... what was that really if I am wrong..

Second call on the 12th

You would think that he would have researched the school name and street names... given all the trouble figuring them out with the first call... but no... played that game again.

also this statement bothers me. "it's right by THEIR house"

Funny he knew what type of snake he saw in both calls.


Ugh! Thank you for saying all this.....my thoughts exactly!:bang:
 
It's only two weeks for complete skeletonization of a child's body in an Orlando summer, per CNN forensics specialist last week. Unbelievable, but that's what he said.

I would say that's a guess. No one knows exactly how long one person would take to fully decomp. It's a scientific guess, not an exact.
 
I think the tear-off trashbags are much lighter weight and cheaper--like "leaf bags."


Maybe not lighter. I bought some of those very heavy contractor type bags to use in a large trash can and they came on a roll and you have to tear them off.
 
Wait a second. There's a lot of misinformation here--in part because the pdf isn't the same as the calls. (And yes, they make mistakes on these things -not uncommon). First, on August 11th--he did not call 911-he called a non-emergency number that was transferred to 911. When the 911 dispatch operator identifies it as being 911 he specifically states he called a non-emergency number. Second, he never says grey bag--never--not once.That part of the pdf is a mistake. Third, he never says he saw anything behind the school--ever. He says he recently read the meter behind the school--but he never says he saw anything behind the school. Fourth, where do you get he was searching around on company time? My utility people have to go into the canyon on my property all of the time. He says in the calls: "We found a dead ...rattlesnack back there"...some time before this. So, he was there at one point as part of his work. We don't know that he was there on non-company related business.

I posted way back in this thread that mention of the grey bag cannot be heard in the calls. However, on both the first and second calls, it is reported on the actual document that he spotted a grey bag. I think there is a spot in each of those calls where the grey bag part was cut out. Why? I have no idea. :waitasec:
 
I would say that's a guess. No one knows exactly how long one person would take to fully decomp. It's a scientific guess, not an exact.

Just tellin' you what he said. :blowkiss:
 
Is there anything about this case that's not totally crazy-making?? I just listened to MRs 3 phone calls, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry! How during the first and second calls can he possibly not know where he is? Or that the nearest intersection is Hope Springs and Suburban?? Or what side of the street he's talking about (i.e. north, south, east, or west, NOT left side or right side.)???

I mean no personal offense, but if this confused, inarticulate guy is part of some "plot" I gotta meet the mastermind who picked him. :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

On a more somber, and vaguely uneasy, note: Based on what he said in his phone calls, he had no reason whatsoever to assume there was anything significant about a trash bag lying under a fallen tree, particularly since the area was clearly a dumping ground.
Moreover, unless Caylee's skull somehow levitated enough to float in and out of that closed bag, the "round white" thing he saw couldn't have been more significant than a wadded-up white bag, or a ball, or something like that.
Also, he's knowledgeable enough about snakes, to be able to identify the type of rattler, but the rattler was dead, and yet he was too afraid of a dead snake to go check out the contents of the bag?.
Last and definitely least, wouldn't it have made sense to borrow a pair of binoculars at least by his second call? Doesn't LE have binoculars as standard equipment?
I'm not suggesting the fellow is guilty of anything at all; I'm just moaning about the fact that nothing ever seems to be clear-cut and unassailable. :)

My son was a meter reader for 10 years. He still works for the utility company but in a different position. I just called him and ask him about this.
He said that when you read meters you /he carried a device called an "itron meter reader". He knew where his route started and where it ended and if he had to come out of the yard onto the street and tell someone exactly where he was - that he could not have done it without stopping and really figuring out where he was. He said that you have the meter reading device and you input and go to the next meter and input and go to the next meter and input etc. And if the meters are behind the house/building he was going down the back of properties - said he would know where to start and the route would take him back to his truck.
Also if the meter guy was new he would have been training on most of the routes, where ever he was needed and it could have taken a few months for him to get back to this route. And when the Hurricane hit the area was really flooded and deep. Also when , on the 3rd day, the officer showed up neither men saw the questionable item
Also there were 1000's of calls and most of them were, for instance, "look under the green fountain by the crooked tree" - so LE had their hands full.

And that area was a large area - not sure how large but at least an acre per LE expanding the area where the remains were found was enlarged to and acre. Was there some standing water? Just because he is a meter reader doesn't mean to me that he should wade thru swampy area (if flooded then) or thru snake infested bushes.. He called and reported that he saw something white that seemed out of place. Something white would stand out in Thick green woods and bushes. Who knows what it was? Could have been trash. He knew he was reading the A's route - I would find everything slightly out of place as something that needed to be checked out.
 
I was totally distracted by all the spelling and grammar errors and couldn't finish watching it. I'm ADD and old-fashioned about basic spelling and grammar rules. On the other hand, I have an incurable case of commaphobia, so who am I to criticize? LOL.

Oh God, I know. Horrible. You don't have to be ADD and/or old-fashioned to care about spelling and grammar. :) Oh, and I have an incurable case of ellipseaphilia, but I am recovering from the affliction. :crazy:
 
It's only two weeks for complete skeletonization of a child's body in an Orlando summer, per CNN forensics specialist last week. Unbelievable, but that's what he said.

I'm sure he said it, but I can't believe it's true. What about if the body is sealed in a humid environment with no air flow, like a plastic bag? What if the plastic bag is under water? Have we ever learned for certain when the area flooded?
 
I care to a certain extent about grammar and spelling. But, I do have a 28 year old (very successful) son who is ADD. Without aid/editing, his spelling can sometimes make him look like an "english as a second language" person. However, he rates off the charts in intelligence. So carefull here....
BTW, I'm not ADD or STUPID and I don't recognize the words "ellipseaphilia" or "commaphobia". And I don't even feel inclined to look them up. Nor do I feel "stupid".
JMO
 
I care to a certain extent about grammar and spelling. But, I do have a 28 year old (very successful) son who is ADD. Without aid/editing, his spelling can sometimes make him look like an "english as a second language" person. However, he rates off the charts in intelligence. So carefull here....
BTW, I'm not ADD or STUPID and I don't recognize the words "ellipseaphilia" or "commaphobia". And I don't even feel inclined to look them up. Nor do I feel "stupid".
JMO

Hey, hey, we're not making fun of anyone here. If you publish something on the Internet, which this video was, it's going to be scrutinized. There are spelling and grammar tools on most computers. You said your son does have help or edits his spelling, which is a great thing. I am by no means calling someone unintelligent because of his or her spelling or grammar. Please don't take offense.

We were making words up using phobia and philia. Friday is afraid of commas, and I love ellipses. Again, this was done all in fun. Please don't take such offense.
 
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