Nobodynoz, I can't tell you enough how awesome you are for preparing this list, and for keeping it updated. :great:
(Of course, you other sleuthers are THE BEST for searching and digging for facts!) :rocker:
I don't know, I'm thinking YS would have called DSJr's cell phone first, then maybe his landline and then maybe the landline at his parent's house. Assuming of course that she had all those numbers handy at the time. Perhaps we're only hearing about the conversation with TS because that is the first response she got?
MOO
Agreed this is possible and most likely so. That IS the order in which you would call. So either there was a lot more to that phone conversation, or it was his cell.
I would also be concerned about the twins at this point cuz I wouldn't know where ANY of them are, m and the twins could ALL be missing... so the first thing I would probably ask if I was calling a number that did NOT belong to jr, is if she has seen or heard from jr and does she know if he has the twins or not, cuz we can't find Michelle. Then, if she hadn't already volunteered it, I would ask if m dropped them off there (at sr's house) or in some way see if she had SEEN Michelle. Then I would ask to talk to Jr...
Then if she said the twins were there, but that jr had brought them over, AND that he couldn't come to the phone, I would ask what time they got there, and after she answered I would say well, could you please have him give me a call as soon as possible because we are getting very concerned.
So maybe it did go down a little more like that, and they just did not add those details.
But I think if I called jr's mom, what I would ask first isn't to talk to jr., cuz all i would wanna know at that point is that my daughter and grandchildren are safe. I'd feel some sense of relief knowing that at least my grandchildren are accounted for.
Then I would probably have somebody else call around while I drive the area between Jr's and our house to see if Michelle didn't end up with a dead battery and a dead phone all at the same time, and see if she wasn't broke down on the side of the road somewhere (I recently had alternators go out on 2 vehicles which means I couldn't even charge a dead cell phone for help once the battery is drained). I might at LEAST find her vehicle...
I have some Jr cell thoughts I will put in another post.
Just trying to put various scenarios into action to see how each angle may have played out and how it all might work into a timeline. Kinda like tracing your steps to try to find something you lost till you find it...
Unfortunately, in this case, it calls for a lot of scenarios, and it is difficult to work backwards, but I think if we start building different bases to build off of, and split each one as we go, kinda like building a family tree, it might help...
So, can anyone build us a tree so we can start at the trunk, and work our way out?
I don't know about you guys, but I am very visual. Sometimes when you SEE things, it helps put things into better perspective It could help us build a tentative timeline to which we could add many variables in various directions. It would allow us to see all of our ideas in one place and could make a particular branch have more growth than another, etc... which might begin to shed more light.
I don't know what it could find, or if it would work, but I would be willing to try it!
Maybe some of the experimental processes we try with this case, could become viable sleuthing methods for other cases! Wouldn't THAT be something!
I think the tree would have to be something we could collaborate on, placing our thought onto the tree where it fits into the thought before it. So if it begins at the main idea (the trunk), the next ideas become limbs, and as it builds off of the limb, it branches off, then it branches off that branch and begins to bud and so forth, only growing off of the idea it fits to... and nobody could remove anybody's branch, they can only add limbs, branches, and buds to whatever area THEIR idea fits onto next... and that one limb or branch could have 100 buds coming off of just one thought before it... the buds would grow into branches, and on it goes...
Facts and speculation could be identified by color to identify how each fits together and where... and perhaps we would be able to visualize which directions or branches were able to work into or branch out into utilizing the most facts, for example... Each entry would be given a time in which it is estimated the addition would take to transpire, giving it life, and if you disagree with a time frame, you add another bud to the branch rather than to the bud you disagree with, always placing your bud on the area it DOES fit onto... even if it's simply a change in the time you feel it would take for another's idea you like to transpire...
Tagging every word in an entry for search terms could help you get to a point in a branch or bud that you need to add something to, perhaps backing your search terms up as to the idea you wish to add to. Then a list of applicable locations would come up and it could be listed as trunk blah blah, limb blah blah, branch blah blah, bud blah blah, displaying the details on each one, so that it would help break down what part of the tree you are wanting to get to. It would narrow down discovery so that you could quickly review where it is you need to go. Somehow, the database would have to be able to identify when a limb turns branch turns bud turns branch...
Does that make sense? Does it sound like a good idea? Is it doable?