MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #6

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I wish PB's FB page wasn't set to private... that might answer many questions.

My concerns with utilizing any electronic communication allegedly made by PB is MJ had access to both her cell phone and lap top. There is also no way of knowing the exact number of persons who had access to the apartment while DB was at work on the 28th. We've already got three persons, MJ, LB and C, who could have posed as PB either on her lap top or her cell.

I HOPE almost 4 months into this LE has had various experts review any electronic communication allegedly made by PB.
 
Cubby said:
I wish PB's FB page wasn't set to private... that might answer many questions.

My concerns with utilizing any electronic communication allegedly made by PB is MJ had access to both her cell phone and lap top. There is also no way of knowing the exact number of persons who had access to the apartment while DB was at work on the 28th. We've already got three persons, MJ, LB and C, who could have posed as PB either on her lap top or her cell.

I HOPE almost 4 months into this LE has had various experts review any electronic communication allegedly made by PB.
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Having access to PB's facebook would be a huge benefit. Especially for looking at the days prior to the 28th.
 
cluciano63 said:
I am confused as to how LE can know for sure who sent a text, or made an entry on the computer?
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There is a certain way that each one of us communicate. Whether by phone, text, etc. We all use different words to mean the same thing. Specialist can break all of this down, and know if it really was PB texting, or typing on the computer. Like someone said earlier, why would MJ comment on PB friends FB pic. and also how could he possibly know what to say that would be the norm for PB? With all that was going on that morning I don't think that MJ had time to think that far in advance to actually take the time to comment on PB's FB page.

Just like now on this Website here, I can tell who is typing what, just by the tones of the post without sometimes looking at the names. I am sure if this is what I did for a living everyday was to analyst these postings, that I would definitely know who was really saying what?

If I had a friend or relative type for me a respond on this page just for a day or even for a couple of hours you all would know the difference.
There was said to be a whole lot of communication going on the morning of the 28th between DB, PB, MJ, and KB. So LE has plenty to work with and sort out. Which I believe they already have.
 
Cubby said:
DB and KB would certainly not tell all to the media, nor should they. There are always certain things the family is privy too which can not be released to the public. And there are always things LE can not risk sharing with even family while an investigation is open.

What concerns me is the contradicting information given to 'media' (let's include missing persons advocates such as peas') by DB and KB.
DB and/or KB either verbally spoke to PB on the 28th or not.
KB was either at DB's apartment on the evening of the 27th or not.
DB was either surprised to come home on the 27th to find MJ, LB and C partying or having a party or not.
KB and PB either had definate plans the afternoon of the 28th or not.


How is the contradicting information benefiting the search for Phylicia? It's not.
Any inaccurate information is taking attention off where it should be in order to search for PB in the right direction.........

jmo
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That what my concern that I shared with Sophclown. Peas to me did not do that particular interview to help PB, but to try and clear DB and KB from all of the bashing that was going on about them. This is where the problem is?
DB and KB have done nothing to help this case in the media and public eyes. Maybe to LE, but not for us, so when they continue to ask the public for help how are we so sort out things if we are confused with what they give us to go on?

I hope that Sophclown understood my post and took it back to Peas, so that they understand the public's point for future shows.
 
BACH50 said:
What about her friends?
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We can't 'sleuth' link to minors social networking sites and any FB - social networking links posted on WS can only be from public pages. However, if someone were to uncover any social networking links PB posted on public social networking sites belonging to anyone not a minor they can be posted here.

hth
 
why would MJ comment on PB friends FB pic. and also how could he possibly know what to say that would be the norm for PB?
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MJ tied himself to that apartment for at least 3 hours. In three hours he could have opened any of PB's social networking sites and copied/pasted some of her terminology and word/grammer usage. I know LE has the ability to have experts review such information, however it doesn't happen as quickly we'd hope. And with as many players involved in this case it's difficult to determine just how much time going through all 30 or so would take by such experts.

Not to mention as time goes by evidence gets lost. IF PB were found deceased today (and I am still hoping to be pleasantly surprised she is found alive) there is a good chance a ME would be unable to find a cause of death if it were a 'soft kill'.

jmo
 
Cubby said:
We can't 'sleuth' link to minors social networking sites and any FB - social networking links posted on WS can only be from public pages. However, if someone were to uncover any social networking links PB posted on public social networking sites belonging to anyone not a minor they can be posted here.

hth
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I think you misunderstood me. One post said that they wished they could have access to PB's FB book page. I simply meant that since PB's page is shut down, her friends pages are still active maybe they should try seeing what PB wrote on their pages. Unless LE wiped out all of PB's comments that she made on any of her friends pages, which I don't think they can do?
 
Cubby said:
MJ tied himself to that apartment for at least 3 hours. In three hours he could have opened any of PB's social networking sites and copied/pasted some of her terminology and word/grammer usage. I know LE has the ability to have experts review such information, however it doesn't happen as quickly we'd hope. And with as many players involved in this case it's difficult to determine just how much time going through all 30 or so would take by such experts.

Not to mention as time goes by evidence gets lost. IF PB were found deceased today (and I am still hoping to be pleasantly surprised she is found alive) there is a good chance a ME would be unable to find a cause of death if it were a 'soft kill'.

jmo
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I have kicked myself many times for not screen capturing many of the social networking sites that were open, in the days immediately after PB's disappearance. Most of the poi's quickly turned their sites private, which eliminated so much information.
Lesson learned for the future. When in doubt, make copies...

I have found a few comments by PB on others FB/Myspace, but it is from long before she went missing, and the people she posted on were minors at the time (they are no longer minors).

I wish I knew if PB had a twitter account, and what her profile name was.
 
'suspicion solves crimes, not taking a positive attitude'

The above is blatently stolen from another WS'r.
Why is it the B family is hiding behind a prayer page and lambasting anyone asking the tough questions? And why would they not think doing so (answering) would not create suspicion?

There is a simple solution here - put out a written PR through the PI working the case to answer the questions surrounding the contradicting information put out by the B family. The choices are to do so or allow those willing to help look under every stone for Phylicia to be chasing their tail or on some wild goose chase. Simple as that.

JMO
 
BACH50 said:
I think you misunderstood me. One post said that they wished they could have access to PB's FB book page. I simply meant that since PB's page is shut down, her friends pages are still active maybe they should try seeing what PB wrote on their pages. Unless LE wiped out all of PB's comments that she made on any of her friends pages, which I don't think they can do?
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I get what you mean. Most of her friends are minors, and their pages are private (side note--they have smart parents who taught them to keep their stuff private, imo). Also, because PB's page is private, including her friends list, it is very difficult to know who her friends are.

If one of her friends is reading here, maybe they can look back through PB's posts, and see if they notice anything. Especially WHO PB was friends with in the B'more families, and WHO commented on PB's posts/photos.
 
BACH50 said:
I think you misunderstood me. One post said that they wished they could have access to PB's FB book page. I simply meant that since PB's page is shut down, her friends pages are still active maybe they should try seeing what PB wrote on their pages. Unless LE wiped out all of PB's comments that she made on any of her friends pages, which I don't think they can do?
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I understood. My apologies for not being more clear.... (I'm not always great at expressing myself in writing.) I was trying to offer an avenue on how to do just that - which could only be done and posted here at WS anywhere PB may have posted on public pages for anyone not a minor.

hth :blowkiss:
 
Cubby said:
MJ tied himself to that apartment for at least 3 hours. In three hours he could have opened any of PB's social networking sites and copied/pasted some of her terminology and word/grammer usage. I know LE has the ability to have experts review such information, however it doesn't happen as quickly we'd hope. And with as many players involved in this case it's difficult to determine just how much time going through all 30 or so would take by such experts.

Not to mention as time goes by evidence gets lost. IF PB were found deceased today (and I am still hoping to be pleasantly surprised she is found alive) there is a good chance a ME would be unable to find a cause of death if it were a 'soft kill'.

jmo
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I think that LE has been and continue to put most of their time into MJ as the main POI and are reviewing everything that he did that day with a fine tooth. From his text, phone, car, etc. They also can tell from the computer how many times each page was visited and if he copied or pasted such?
A three hour window is not a lot of time for all of this sophisticated thoughts and action to accur with MJ, and LE seem to believe that this crime most likely took place within a 2 too 3 hour period.

I don't think that we are giving LE enough credit. Technology is a key factor in many of todays cases and I believe it plays a very important role in this one. I don't think that MJ planned everything that happened that day, but he most certainly thought out some of it. But he could never have prepared himself for DB, KB, nor PB's responses nor the way in which they communicated that day. MJ couldn't have thought out what PB was going to do concerning her text, FB postings, nor contacts that day, so for him to just start responding for her makes me think that he is a serious professional criminal.

Remember this case deals with a relationship, and from what the experts say about cases where there is love and relationships envolved most of the time happen in the HEAT OF A MOMENT and are not really planned all the way out.
 
georgiajean said:
I have kicked myself many times for not screen capturing many of the social networking sites that were open, in the days immediately after PB's disappearance. Most of the poi's quickly turned their sites private, which eliminated so much information.
Lesson learned for the future. When in doubt, make copies...

I have found a few comments by PB on others FB/Myspace, but it is from long before she went missing, and the people she posted on were minors at the time (they are no longer minors).

I wish I knew if PB had a twitter account, and what her profile name was.
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I have looked at some of the POI's twitters to see (friends), but it is a very time consuming process?
 
BACH50 said:
I think that LE has been and continue to put most of their time into MJ as the main POI and are reviewing everything that he did that day with a fine tooth. From his text, phone, car, etc. They also can tell from the computer how many times each page was visited and if he copied or pasted such?
A three hour window is not a lot of time for all of this sophisticated thoughts and action to accur with MJ, and LE seem to believe that this crime most likely took place within a 2 too 3 hour period.

I don't think that we are giving LE enough credit. Technology is a key factor in many of todays cases and I believe it plays a very important role in this one. I don't think that MJ planned everything that happened that day, but he most certainly thought out some of it. But he could never have prepared himself for DB, KB, nor PB's responses nor the way in which they communicated that day. MJ couldn't have thought out what PB was going to do concerning her text, FB postings, nor contacts that day, so for him to just start responding for her makes me think that he is a serious professional criminal.

Remember this case deals with a relationship, and from what the experts say about cases where there is love and relationships envolved most of the time happen in the HEAT OF A MOMENT and are not really planned all the way out.
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If LE knows a lot more (and I am hopeful that they do), why are they saying they are back at square one, and have no leads? This is what confuses me.
 
georgiajean said:
If LE knows a lot more (and I am hopeful that they do), why are they saying they are back at square one, and have no leads? This is what confuses me.
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I think they realize what they are dealing with, with MJ and his crew and are just saying what they have to in order to get what they want.

Thats why I wish NG would have taken a serious interest in this case then we could have had the real play by play (day by day) and not what the media is feeding us. But for whatever REASON I just can't figure out, NG just won't cover this one the way she should????????
 
Going back to the 28th. So when MJ said that he heard PB on the phone saying, yea, he here, he doing laundry. Was that a lie and did PB speak to SS for-real? If so, what day and time?

How about the 5pm text from MJ saying PB was up and active? It seemed like to me at first that maybe people thought PB was hung over and was waiting for PB to awake. Once she never did, people panicked. I thought at first, DB was checking in with MJ to see if PB had awakened yet. MJ may have stated that PB was still asleep. Maybe MJ and crew knew that PB was at a vulnerable state of mind and took advantage of PB, leaving DB blind to the fact. Then text DB at 5pm saying that (okay DB, no need to worry, PB finally did awake) but by then, they had already took PB to another location).

Regardless to the story, it's still going to be the same people. It would really be nice if someone would be kind enough to (private mail) someone they can trust, (that comment KB or DB posted) in regards to the night of the 27th. I think KB post the comment.
 
investigate1 said:
Going back to the 28th. So when MJ said that he heard PB on the phone saying, yea, he here, he doing laundry. Was that a lie and did PB speak to SS for-real? If so, what day and time?
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We don't know. If what KB posted - that neither she or DB verbally spoke with PB - is true, then MJ could not have overheard any conversation. He would have only known of that information if he was snooping PB's texts, after the fact, in order to come up with some semblance of a timeline and the events which occured between PB and her half sisters.

Perhaps it was MJ who was (the only one) doing the snooping having learnt of DB mentioning the 'cheating' pic on MJ's facebook page by way of reading PB's texts.....



JMO
 
This really stinks; and it's going to get stinkier before people go to jail. In time, they need to go to jail. Yet, I agree with the people who feel that right now, all we want is PB back.

I think that between twitter and FB, it helps to tell part of the story and key players that will be caught just for getting caught up in constant illegal activity before and after PB's disappearance. After all, ain't no shame in their game.
 
I know car parts have cost and list price. Some people probably are finding ways to pay little to nothing under the table cash or different type of exchanges can be a possibility.

No record label gonna wanna sign people that are caught up in abductions etc..Bad image for the business. Even an Independent Label might not want to touch it. How much will certain people be able to sell underground. Constant trouble means paying lawyer after lawyer and they won't be able to flip enough money on the streets to juggle all that.

People future plans are going to have to go on hold. Slowly but surely the future troubles will get no better and they are going to wish that at least someone gave up a location. GIVE UP THE LOCATION AND YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN FOR A LITTLE LONGER. That's what they want right? As much time to be free as possible or free forever? GIVE UP THE LOCATION AND YOU MIGHT GET WHAT YOU WANT.
 
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