FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #19

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Pias said:
.... gee, I wonder if he was stripping for women AND men??

Things that make ya go hmmmm.....
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If he could turn a " buck" maybe he should go back to stripping..:what:
 
BigCityLightsGrl said:
Likes cowboys? I dont get it? Because he wears a cowboy hat? Does he have pics of cowboys on his facebook, or does he post stuff like that else where? Its so easy for someone to be something we want them to be,even when their not. Dont take this the wrong way but he is shirtless is some pics, does that make him a stripper? Dancer? Im sure we could find a way, if we wanted, to put him in the grassy knoll.

Its nice to explore every avenue and possiblity but sometime that line of thought can distract from whats really going on.
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BBM..

This is how "information" gets screwed up! MSM and here there is no way to be 100 % accurate! She simply asked DOES that make him a stripper NOT that he was. Just putting it out there..
 
IHAVENOCLUE said:
BBM
This instance is not one I am familiar with.
I hope other sleuthers will not mind if we have this incident summarized for me, please?
TIA
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Lark2 said:
IMO, Dale Smith Jr. has a mental disorder and and needs treatment. Not self-help treatment. Not AA. Serious psychological treatment.

IMO, he has the traits of a sociopath. Inflicting violence on others for no reason at all (victim #1, the young man who Dale helped kill when he was 20, and the pregant lady on the beach in South Carolina when he was a marine), is a hallmark of that personality disorder. These two were literally random stangers picked out for his own amusement, I guess.

And then of course, there's the violence he's inflicted on those he supposedly loved (his second wife, his next fiance, and then Michelle Parker).

I've learned something from this case. Never, EVER take someone's word for who they are. Before you start a serious relationship, before you marry that person, check their criminal record. It's easy to do. Could save your life.

And his criminal record should come back to haunt him!
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I don't recall hearing anything about a pregnant lady on the beach.. LINKS??
Also who was the next fiance?
 
hon3yb33 said:
I don't recall hearing anything about a pregnant lady on the beach.. LINKS??
Also who was the next fiance?
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I remember this very early on in the investigation. There was a Youtube video posted by someone by the name of mikel0352 that claimed to be DSjr's roommate in the Marines. He posted some comments on his youtube channel which I don't see any more as it looks like the video he posted has rolled off his youtube channel with all the other videos he has posted. Though, I do still see similar comments that he has posted on another youtube video that was posted about Michelle being missing. If you google search "Dale Smith Smitty Mikel0352" you'll find the youtube video and the comments. The comment about the pregnant lady is in there. ETA: the video you'll find on the link that will come up from the google search is not from the Mike person but rather someone else posting a video about Michelle being missing and the former marine roommate has posted a comment. It's the most recent comment you'll see. I still can't find the original video posted by the roommate himself but it was a video of him talking about DSjr and his opinion of him and also the other incidents he makes mention of in his comment on that link you'll find.

I'm hesitant to post the link as I'm unsure if it violates the TOS regarding links since it isn't MSM link.

HTH
 
hon3yb33 said:
BBM..

This is how "information" gets screwed up! MSM and here there is no way to be 100 % accurate! She simply asked DOES that make him a stripper NOT that he was. Just putting it out there..
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I found some old info that he used the name "Tristan". That name can often be popular in homosexual circles according to my grandson who has many friends in that community. IMO he may have used this as a code for other men. It's not in MSM but it's out there if you do some research. He talks about pimping as this tristan character. Just putting it "out" there that we still can't rule out the male escort/stripper thing.
 
Talina said:
I remember this very early on in the investigation. There was a Youtube video posted by someone by the name of mikel0352 that claimed to be DSjr's roommate in the Marines. He posted some comments on his youtube channel which I don't see any more as it looks like the video he posted has rolled off his youtube channel with all the other videos he has posted. Though, I do still see similar comments that he has posted on another youtube video that was posted about Michelle being missing. If you google search "Dale Smith Smitty Mikel0352" you'll find the youtube video and the comments. The comment about the pregnant lady is in there.

I'm hesitant to post the link as I'm unsure if it violates the TOS regarding links since it isn't MSM link.

HTH
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Thank you for your productive response. I will have to google that because I honestly could not remember hearing that.
 
hon3yb33 said:
Thank you for your productive response. I will have to google that because I honestly could not remember hearing that.
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The video you'll find on the link that will come up from the google search is not from the Mike person but rather someone else posting a video about Michelle being missing and the former marine roommate has posted a comment. It's the most recent comment you'll see. I still can't find the original video posted by the roommate himself but it was a video of him talking about DSjr and his opinion of him and also the other incidents he makes mention of in his comment on that link you'll find.
 
Jazzmaster said:
I found some old info that he used the name "Tristan". That name can often be popular in homosexual circles according to my grandson who has many friends in that community. IMO he may have used this as a code for other men. It's not in MSM but it's out there if you do some research. He talks about pimping as this tristan character. Just putting it "out" there that we still can't rule out the male escort/stripper thing.
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Nowhere in my post did I say we can't rule him out as a stripper..... but we also can't confirm it. I was simply making the comment on how we read things the way we want to because BigCityLightsGrl did not say he was a stripper she was simply saying he hardly wears a shirt so does that make him a stripper. I'm not at all sure what his sexuality has to do with finding Michelle which is why I thought everyone was here for. If you could explain I would appreciate it. Also I've been involved in the gay community for quite some time advocating for equal rights for marriage and so forth and I have not heard of that name specifically being popular in "homosexual circles" so that IMO
is nothing but stereotyping which is really offensive to me.

Jazzmaster said:
Did we rule out him being a male escort? He may have money coming in there. I think BigCityLightsGrl said he stripped in his early days. Did you find that link yet? TIA Correct me if I'm wrong. IMO Maybe he has some "under the table" income so to speak...
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BigCityLightsGrl said:
I thought Mark Nejames said DS2 was co-operating with police and did give a statement to them. Also I believe the kids were interviewed by the police and the special team they use to deal with young children. Then DCF took them that afternoon, and they had the emergency hearing the next morning, correct me if Im wrong. If the kids had seen something or witnessed something and DCF didnt mention that the next day in the emergency hearing? All I can say is WOW!

I think Ill just keep from commenting anymore and just read and follow the story on the news. Im getting the feeling that when people speak thier mind and dont always agree, people start to turn on them.

Have fun, and I pray daily for answers and that MP is found.
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BBMNot sure if you are still reading BigCityLightsGrl but I couldn't agree with you more! I'm open to hearing suggestions <modsnip> I know there is a lot to this story that we are not at liberty to know which makes the things we hear harder to determine the truth behind it all. Also at this point there is not too much out there as far as results or searches it seems to me at a stand still which gives everyone time to let their imaginations run wild. I pray she is found and justice will be served and for the person, whoever that may be, to be prosecuted.
 
Talina said:
The video you'll find on the link that will come up from the google search is not from the Mike person but rather someone else posting a video about Michelle being missing and the former marine roommate has posted a comment. It's the most recent comment you'll see. I still can't find the original video posted by the roommate himself but it was a video of him talking about DSjr and his opinion of him and also the other incidents he makes mention of in his comment on that link you'll find.
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can you provide the now defunct link and I will see if I can revive it or not... as long as it wasn't taken down for TOS reasons, I might be able to...
 
Pias said:
can you provide the now defunct link and I will see if I can revive it or not... as long as it wasn't taken down for TOS reasons, I might be able to...
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There is no defunct link.

What I am saying is now no longer viewable is an actual video that was posted on this person's youtube account that was previously posted. He claimed to be a former roommate when they were in the Marines. He video'd himself talking about what he knew about Dale and his own experiences with Dale while living with him and serving in the Marines with him. I saw the video when it was on his channel back in November shortly after Michelle went missing.

That video is the one I can not now find on his channel. In some of the original threads on this forum there is some discussion about it and several people saw the video I'm talking about.

I did, though, find another video on Youtube by doing the google search terms I gave in my prior post. In that video, it is someone just doing a video talking about Michelle being missing, giving some info and asking for tips/help. In the comments section of that video, this same person posts a comment that is also what he was saying on his own youtube channel.

Hope that make sense. I feel like I'm talking in a very confused manner.
 
hon3yb33 said:
Nowhere in my post did I say we can't rule him out as a stripper..... but we also can't confirm it. I was simply making the comment on how we read things the way we want to because BigCityLightsGrl did not say he was a stripper she was simply saying he hardly wears a shirt so does that make him a stripper. I'm not at all sure what his sexuality has to do with finding Michelle which is why I thought everyone was here for. If you could explain I would appreciate it. Also I've been involved in the gay community for quite some time advocating for equal rights for marriage and so forth and I have not heard of that name specifically being popular in "homosexual circles" so that IMO
is nothing but stereotyping which is really offensive to me.
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Some people are afraid of being 'outed' and it HAS lead to murder... lemme see... once or twice... maybe a time or two more than that... maybe followed by some zero's.... ya, that might be about right....
 
Pias said:
Some people are afraid of being 'outed' and it HAS lead to murder... lemme see... once or twice... maybe a time or two more than that... maybe followed by some zero's.... ya, that might be about right....
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Yes Pias. That was my point! TO SOLVE THIS: we need to look at who had motive, opportunity, and means to carry this out. We know from MSM, Dale was on CRAIG'S LIST talking with MEN and women. We know via PC, he cheated on Michelle with women via CRAIG'S LIST. SO if you put 2 +2 together, it's not a stretch to say maybe Dale was also meeting men. DS thrives on his fun, partying, woman loving persona. To have someone know anything that jeopardizes that image, could be a motive.
 
Jazzmaster said:
Yes Pias. That was my point! TO SOLVE THIS: we need to look at who had motive, opportunity, and means to carry this out. We know from MSM, Dale was on CRAIG'S LIST talking with MEN and women. We know via PC, he cheated on Michelle with women via CRAIG'S LIST. SO if you put 2 +2 together, it's not a stretch to say maybe Dale was also meeting men. DS thrives on his fun, partying, woman loving persona. To have someone know anything that jeopardizes that image, could be a motive.
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How do we know via PC that he cheated via Craig's list? I don't remember anything about women and craigs list coming up on People's Court.
 
Jazzmaster said:
Yes Pias. That was my point! TO SOLVE THIS: we need to look at who had motive, opportunity, and means to carry this out. We know from MSM, Dale was on CRAIG'S LIST talking with MEN and women. We know via PC, he cheated on Michelle with women via CRAIG'S LIST. SO if you put 2 +2 together, it's not a stretch to say maybe Dale was also meeting men. DS thrives on his fun, partying, woman loving persona. To have someone know anything that jeopardizes that image, could be a motive.
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Yes! And to carry that one step further in the realms of real possibilities... Michelle COULD have found men at their house TOO, but never caught them in an act... thusly, not realizing what was going on until most RECENTLY....

puh dum.. JMO
 
Maybe she walked in the condo one day, after they broke up, like it was still her house, and busted him... and he really got pissed off...???? JMO
 
hon3yb33 said:
BBMNot sure if you are still reading BigCityLightsGrl but I couldn't agree with you more! I'm open to hearing suggestions <modsnip> I know there is a lot to this story that we are not at liberty to know which makes the things we hear harder to determine the truth behind it all. Also at this point there is not too much out there as far as results or searches it seems to me at a stand still which gives everyone time to let their imaginations run wild. I pray she is found and justice will be served and for the person, whoever that may be, to be prosecuted.
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hon3yb33...Since you are a friend of DSJr and have known him for at least the last ten years, could you tell us what he has been doing for a living during that time? I know he was working as a cabinet installer at the time that Michelle went missing but do you know for how long? What other jobs has he had during that time?

And do you know if he was living with his parents up until he purchased the condo? Did he ever have a place of his own, maybe a rental home, prior to buying that condo?

TIA
 
hon3yb33 said:
Nowhere in my post did I say we can't rule him out as a stripper..... but we also can't confirm it. I was simply making the comment on how we read things the way we want to because BigCityLightsGrl did not say he was a stripper she was simply saying he hardly wears a shirt so does that make him a stripper. I'm not at all sure what his sexuality has to do with finding Michelle which is why I thought everyone was here for. If you could explain I would appreciate it. Also I've been involved in the gay community for quite some time advocating for equal rights for marriage and so forth and I have not heard of that name specifically being popular in "homosexual circles" so that IMO
is nothing but stereotyping which is really offensive to me.
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Thank you for this, hon3yb33, you said this better than I could, and I agree completely. There are posts here that, imo, are at least borderline homophobic in tone if not in actual words. It's in the kind of "eyeroll" of suggestion that Dale might be gay or bi and that this is somehow telling of his character.

It's like some of you are implicating all people who are gay by the way you phrase things. I too have many, many gay friends, and advocate for equal rights including marriage rights for everyone. The problem is NOT with people who happen to be gay, the problem is with the homophobes who sneer and belittle people because of it.

As always, this is all JMO, but I'm glad that I'm not the only one who feels the way I do.
 
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