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    Christmas Tree Woman

    We don't have a thread for this woman yet. There's alot in this photograph that can give us clues to who she is I think.

    First I saw it seemed she had a stigmatizim? Am I spelling that correct? My friend had it until she had her eye fixed. They called it a "lazy eye". Not my term, but hers.

    I KNOW there's a girl that is in the missing on the Charley Project that had this. I have to go back and look and see who it is, and which eye.

    In the background to the right there's an opened gift. It's a box and I am thinking I see an Indian Head on it. I thought it said EAGLE at the top, but it seems like too many letters. However there is an Indian Head resort in Lincoln, New Hampshire.

    Is this woman's clothes right for say 1970-1971? Also is this a denim skirt she has on? It seems to blend in with the carpet she's on which does NOT match the rest of the carpet. It's almost like she's standing on a very long WELCOME mat of sorts. I say that because I see the letter "M" or "W' depending on how you look at it. Maybe it says Merry Christmas? I doubt it. She has rings on both hands. A present in her hand although she doesn't look genuinely happy to me.

    Again and it may only be me I see a bruise by her or on her collar bone right hand side. Maybe a shadow. Whose place is this? Who are thos gifts for?


    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01221.jpg

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    She looks like she is wearing gray slacks to me. Gray slacks, black blouse, printed vest, and purple socks. I wonder if it is one of those Christmas games where everyone brings a gift and puts it under the tree. Then you go up and get a gift one at a time. And you can either take a new gift or take someone else's gift. It's like she's shy about going up there.

    There is another picture of a woman who looks like she's at a party -- casually but nicely dressed with a wreath pin on. Maybe it's the same party.

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    I think this room is in New England somewhere. The windows behind the tree have grilles on them -- or possibly genuinely divided colonial windows, since it looks like there might be some snow gathered outside. I need to get that on the high-res monitor and look at it some more...

    There's a polished wood floor with a plain gray circular carpet, and a small oriental rug on top of that -- very common New England decorating.

    Behind the Christmas tree -- an old-fashioned steam radiator. So an older house.

    Dark socks -- very common to go around in stocking feet in New England -- it keeps the muddy shoes by the door.

    She looks to me like he snapped her picture as she was turning away from the Christmas tree to hand the package to him (or to someone else). It looks like the family is in the process of opening presents.

    I notice she appears to be wearing a wedding ring.

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    I keep thinking this woman is a relative. She looks like the same woman with short hair who is sitting on his lap.

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    I've been looking too for other photos. Here's what I came up with: (don't know how to do thumbnails)

    From Seattle Times photos

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...23273/114.html
    Girl in blue bikini

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...23273/115.html
    Girl in blue bikini

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...23273/116.html
    Girl in blue bikini closeup

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...1323273/1.html
    Girl on Alcala's lap

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...323273/32.html
    Girl in bathing suit biting lip

    I think these are the same person.

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    There is a thread for her, I think it is called 'tall girl in blue bikini'.

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    Do we agree they are enough alike to merge the two?

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    I personally don't think the girl on his lap is the same person as christmas-tree-blue-bikini


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    Do we agree they are enough alike to merge the two?
    They don't really look much alike to me, but I'm not that good with faces.

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    I don't think we're going to get enough consensus for a thread merge. I do think they are the same girl. I think the woman with the leopard print collar is the same one as well. Link below.
    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01741.jpg

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    I always thought they were the same, hairline is the same, so is the shape of the mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bargle View Post
    I don't think we're going to get enough consensus for a thread merge. I do think they are the same girl. I think the woman with the leopard print collar is the same one as well. Link below.
    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/01741.jpg
    I agree that the woman in the leopard collar is probably the blue bikini girl, but I don't think the Christmas tree woman matches. The mouth and chin just don't look right to me when I try to picture them in profile.

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    And I don't think the leopard collar girl is the Christmas tree woman. To me they don't look alike at all. There are a couple of other pictures of the leopard collar girl. Guess we better leave things like they are, huh.

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