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    Very little girl yellow sweater

    With a heavy heart I post this thread.

    This little girl my heart breaks for. If we can't find women when we have 100 clues how can anyone figure out who this child is?

    MPO this little girl has on a sweater/dress way too big for her. The arm holes are too big. Unlike the little girl with her eyes closed it seems this little girl wasn't immediately taken care of. No less loved, but her hair is unkempt. Maybe God forbid Alcala had her and didn't take care of such things?

    I see and this is me......I see a bruise on her mouth left hand side. Both bottom and top going up to her lip. Obviously she has a band aid on her little finger which is trying to keep her hair out of her face. Her other hand? This photo is cropped.

    Knowing Alcala slapped Robin so hard in the car he chipped some of her tetth it just makes me think maybe he slapped this child on her mouth to quiet her? I hope not. I see nothing innocent here. I see a child that looks not afraid, but almost dazed. She has bags under her eyes like she hasn't slept, and was maybe crying.

    Who are you little girl? Please be alive and safe.


    http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress...0/03/00263.jpg

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    Obviously at some stage someone cared enough for her to put a bandaid on a boo-boo.

    I wouldn't automatically assume it is 100% likely that she wasn't cared for just because she is wearing baggy clothes. Some kids who are on the autism spectrum (even if only mildly) have sensory issues and can't stand some types of physical sensations at various points on their body, such as neckline or underarms or waist. It can be very difficult to dress such a child in a socially acceptable manner, and often parents end up washing the same set of clothes every night. Of course searching for missing autistic kids from the 60's and 70's is unlikely to bring much joy, because back then there was less understanding amongst doctors, teachers etc about it being a spectrum of diagnoses that could include rather mild cases.

    If she was a little autistic that might explain her curiously detatched expression despite all the apparent bruising on her face?

    And she appears to be wearing that horrid lilac eyeshadow so many of Alcala's photos feature, as well as having some bruising.

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    Here's the picture.

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    Was Alcala ever known to take off his victim's clothes and dress them up in outfits of his own choosing?

    I wouldn't necessarily take her clothes as evidence of her being uncared for. The hem is a good length and neckhole isn't huge. The seam of the neckline looks a bit uneven and the shirt might be handsewn. Possibly a hand-me-down from her siblings and got a bit baggy for lots of wearing. Maybe a gift that wasn't a perfect fit to begin with. Sometimes parents and grandparents buy clothes for their children without the child being there to try it on first and it might not always be a perfect fit. Lots of possibilities. The hair is windblown but depending on the weather and the location it might not be a miracle.

    However, I worry about her face, the apparent bruising. It looks like she could be in about to get a black eye too.

    How old do you take her for?

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    Can I just mention that I'm not sure that's bruising you're seeing, but rather a child who's a bit dirty? She looks like a rough-and-tumble one (like I was), and she is none too clean elsewhere...so I'm thinking she just got some dirt on her face (if I'm seeing the same spot you're looking at). And she does look like she needs a good nap, but sometimes, it's hard to bring in a child for one when the play is good.

    I am thinking she's about 4-5...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herding Cats View Post
    Can I just mention that I'm not sure that's bruising you're seeing, but rather a child who's a bit dirty? She looks like a rough-and-tumble one (like I was), and she is none too clean elsewhere...so I'm thinking she just got some dirt on her face (if I'm seeing the same spot you're looking at). And she does look like she needs a good nap, but sometimes, it's hard to bring in a child for one when the play is good.

    I am thinking she's about 4-5...

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    Agreed. This may well have been her play clothes. Something her parents weren't worried about getting dirty or worn. The bruises might be from play, not anything Alcala did. I think she might be a year or 2 older, but I'm no great judge of child ages.
    Last edited by Bargle; 04-09-2010 at 11:03 AM.

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    I'm thinking this might be a little boy. Long hair on boys was very popular in 60's and early 70's.

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    Is that a hint of green shorts/pants/bottoms I see?

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    My take on this picture (I have three children):

    Child is playing outside and has a dirty face. Children tend to get dirty around the mouth area. Saliva and dirt--you get the picture.

    Child is wearing light-green shorts/pants.

    Shirt may be a hand-me-down, therefore a bit too big. My children have plenty of those.

    This could be a girl or a boy.

    The position of the child's left hand bothers me. One thought, maybe this is a boy that is urinating? My son has been known to do this outside.

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    I posted before that I think that this child looks like missing child Kurt Newton:
    http://www.find-missing-children.org.../poster147.htm

    However, I'm not convinced the yellow-shirted child is a boy...the way the child is holding its hand to brush away hair is very feminine to me.

    I see a child who reminds me of myself as a kid: a bit grubby, wearing playclothes, face dirty from some recent snack. I don't see the bruises others have mentioned. It looks like a kid caught playing outside.

    The comment about the placement of the child's hand, as if it is a boy urinating, made me feel compelled to post Kurt's poster again.


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    I think the nose looks similar..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    I posted before that I think that this child looks like missing child Kurt Newton:
    http://www.find-missing-children.org.../poster147.htm

    However, I'm not convinced the yellow-shirted child is a boy...the way the child is holding its hand to brush away hair is very feminine to me.

    I see a child who reminds me of myself as a kid: a bit grubby, wearing playclothes, face dirty from some recent snack. I don't see the bruises others have mentioned. It looks like a kid caught playing outside.

    The comment about the placement of the child's hand, as if it is a boy urinating, made me feel compelled to post Kurt's poster again.

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    this tip of the nose and the top lip??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    I posted before that I think that this child looks like missing child Kurt Newton:
    http://www.find-missing-children.org.../poster147.htm

    However, I'm not convinced the yellow-shirted child is a boy...the way the child is holding its hand to brush away hair is very feminine to me.

    I see a child who reminds me of myself as a kid: a bit grubby, wearing playclothes, face dirty from some recent snack. I don't see the bruises others have mentioned. It looks like a kid caught playing outside.

    The comment about the placement of the child's hand, as if it is a boy urinating, made me feel compelled to post Kurt's poster again.
    His missing date doesn't fit the timeline for Alcala, due to incarceration.

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    If I remember correctly, that "horrid" lilac eyeshadow was in style in about 1973-74. She seems a bit young to be wearing eye shadow, though.

    Her face looks young but that hand looks more like a second-grader's. Body shake is more like a five-year-old.

    The clothes don't strike me as unusual -- play clothes, as somebody has pointed out. She looks like she might be tall and thin for her age, which might mean clothes that fit her lengthwise are too wide through the shoulders. My daughter had that problem when she was little.

    I don't see bruises. Looks more like the remains of a chocolate ice cream bar. What I do notice that's odd is some kind of line on her cheek, along the cheekbone, on both sides. Like she's been wearing goggles for something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlineInstructor View Post
    His missing date doesn't fit the timeline for Alcala, due to incarceration.
    Correct about the time line, however, for Kurt's sake, we should consider all possibilities. I think the pictures look a whole lot alike. The nose and lips to me are right on, just younger. The person (boy/girl) looks to me to be a least 5 maybe six YOA. If Kurt went missing when he was four, how do we know what he looked like when he was five or six?
    I see something a little different about his right earlobe though, anyone else? A bit larger than normal? If we blow up the long haired picture can we see the earlobe? And then, if it could be Kurt, is that why someone let his hair grow, to cover the ear? Just thinkin' out loud.

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