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    South Hadley,MA Phoebe Prince 15 kills self over bullying #2

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    whew...I hope they find us..."1 member, 0 Guests"...lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    whew...I hope they find us..."1 member, 0 Guests"...lol...
    Found it!
    "She read about people she could never be, on adventures she would never have. Life was good enough until one day it wasn't. She wanted more..."

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    Take a gander at THIS! Isn't that weird? I JUST said to adnoid, on the last thread, we should save this one for when officials are finally held to task! And here we are! Daisy, are you psychic?

    "Governor faults S. Hadley officials in Phoebe Prince bullying case"

    Governor Deval Patrick said this morning that South Hadley school officials should be "held accountable" for their handling of the bullying that preceded Phoebe Prince's suicide, describing reports that Prince had personally turned to administrators for help as "outrageous."

    "I'm telling you, this is outrageous, what you and I and others are reading and hearing about this," Patrick said in a radio interview on WTKK-FM. "The more we hear, the worse it sounds."
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/bre...trick_fau.html
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    from the same link...

    "Braude said he believed school officials displayed a "callous disregard" and asked Patrick if he was troubled that they haven't been charged criminally. "They should certainly be held accountable," Patrick said, later adding that "it's incredibly upsetting to me that the adults don't seem to have acted like adults."
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/bre...trick_fau.html


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    reported video of Longe, yesterday...about 4 sec's in a big grey hoodie...it also has video of the town, I'm switching computer's to listen...might be Phoebe's street...
    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO139595/


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    Here's a headline...
    "Court filing reveals taunted teen's anguish in final hours" By Ann O'Neill, CNN
    The alleged confrontations took place at South Hadley High School -- in gym and Latin classes, in the school library, in the cafeteria, in the girls' bathroom, in the hallway and on the streets outside the school. They made her anxious and tearful, classmates and friends told investigators.

    Witnesses told police one of the girls "called her out," threatening to beat Prince up, the document states.

    A witness is quoted in the document as telling investigators:

    "She definitely didn't want to fight with the girls in the school. She just wanted to keep to herself and keep things the way they were. She wanted people to stop picking on her, to stop being bullied. She wanted people to leave her alone. She wanted people to stop spreading rumors and stop the girls from talking about her."
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/09/...cide/?hpt=Sbin


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    There's a problem...that number is high...imo...
    "A CDC study also showed 14.5 percent of U.S. high school students reported seriously considering suicide during the year preceding the survey, and 6.9 percent said they had attempted suicide once or more in the same period.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...technologyNews


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    From Paladine's link:

    But Patrick said parents and other adults must also play a role in preventing bullying. Citing his support for anti-bullying legislation, he cautioned that it is "not a substitute for adults acting like adults."

    That is the parents of the bully, it's other adults in the school, it's adults in the community," he said. "All of us have a responsibility to step up and deal with this."

    BBM -- Great quote!!

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    Oh I have a feeling many adults will be charged as well. I'm just hoping these people investigating and prosecuting don't screw this up to high hell. I'm hoping this will be taken very seriously. I've read people saying the kids didn't kill her, she killed herself and shouldn't be held accountable for. That what she did was cowardly. I hope those people eat some crow pie after these school jerks and these dispicable human beings rot.

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    Interview with that nasty Gus Sayer

    http://www.necn.com/pages/landing?Un...211605&feedID=

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    I know I'm a broken record, please forgive me...but more confirmation it was the rear stairwell. Anyone think there could be an interior rear stairwell? Maybe inside that main floor door...? Once again, here's the house...
    Later in the day, Prince's body was found hanging in a rear stairwell of her family's apartment.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...-Bullying.html
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000957224345
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    I know I'm a broken record, please forgive me...but more confirmation it was the rear stairwell. Anyone think there could be an interior rear stairwell? Maybe inside that main floor door...? Once again, here's the house...

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...-Bullying.html
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000957224345
    I feel like if it was outside, there would have been swarms of people outside and someone would have snapped a picture. not of her body, but of the police et al. outside, so I'm still thinking inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    I know I'm a broken record, please forgive me...but more confirmation it was the rear stairwell. Anyone think there could be an interior rear stairwell? Maybe inside that main floor door...? Once again, here's the house...

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...-Bullying.html
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...00000957224345
    You may be onto something... The door on the bottom may go in and lead to stairs inside along the back of the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurence View Post
    You may be onto something... The door on the bottom may go in and lead to stairs inside along the back of the house.
    That's what I'm hoping.


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    How'd we miss this? It's from a week ago...look at what prosecutors are telling Irish papers...and this was before the latest revelations...

    "Staff at Phoebe's school could face charges "

    "THE possibility of legal charges against staff in a US school where an Irish girl was bullied before she committed suicide has not been ruled out, prosecutors told the Irish Independent last night.
    The disclosure came as a district attorney charged nine students -- including seven girls -- with offences including civil rights violations, statutory rape, stalking and inflicting bodily injury to Phoebe Prince.

    Prosecutors claim some staff at the Massachusetts school attended by Phoebe (15), who grew up in Fanore, Co Clare, knew of the bullying -- which took place in person and on social networking sites -- but did nothing to stop the students involved."
    "When asked if teaching staff could still face charges over the case, a spokesperson for Ms Scheibel told the Irish Independent last night: "We do not know what the future will hold. Nothing can be ruled out at this stage," she said.
    http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-2118116.html
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    UPI's take..."Prince asked school officials for help"

    "SOUTH HADLEY, Mass., April 9 (UPI) -- Administrators at a Massachusetts high school did not listen to a teen's plea for help against bullying a week before she took her life, prosecutors said.

    Phoebe Prince's seeking help from South Hadley High School administrators about the bullying was made public for the first time Thursday in court documents filed as three former classmates pleaded not guilty to charges of tormenting the high school freshman, The Boston Globe reported Friday."
    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/...2321270839187/


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    Inside during the arraignment I guess?

    http://videos.masslive.com/republica...hadley_ma.html

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    Not trying to morbid, folks. Just trying to collect info on Phoebe's death, too...this is Salon, they are respectable, imo.
    And so, when Phoebe Prince arrived home that afternoon, she went to the top of her stairwell, put a noose around her neck, and jumped.
    So, this tells me any interior stairwell would need to have a railing or an open space of some kind to jump over...?
    http://www.salon.com/life/feature/20...ing/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladine View Post
    Not trying to morbid, folks. Just trying to collect info on Phoebe's death, too...this is Salon, they are respectable, imo.

    So, this tells me any interior stairwell would need to have a railing or an open space of some kind to jump over...?
    http://www.salon.com/life/feature/20...ing/index.html
    It has to be an interior stairwell. If she had been outside it would have been news... plus that house is pretty exposed if you look at it from the Google Street view.

    If that link works you should see the house from the main street, you can see the side stairs from the road really easily.

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    Ok I just read on this site
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/reg...icleid=1245831

    It says

    The court papers describe in chilling forensic terms how Prince died and how investigators found her. They were called to her home about 5 p.m. on Jan. 14, where they found the “lifeless body of a white female, hanging in the rear stairwell of the apartment.” A day later, an autopsy found a “a ligature mark about the neck of Ms. Prince,” according those court papers. The medical examiner said Phoebe died from “asphyxia due to hanging and the manner of death was suicide.”

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    read this comment, scroll down the page, it questions to possibility of suicide and says she was outside...whatever that means.
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    Haven't read through the whole thread, yet...
    http://www.***********************/fo...age1025894/pg1
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    I just read on this FB page that a meeting was supposed to take place at the school about bullying after Phoebe went to heaven but was canceled?!

    http://www.facebook.com/search/?ref=...9.513703586..1

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    Another kid on FB has come forth and said he told Sayer and Dan Smith he was harassed many times and Sayer didn't do a thing!
    http://www.facebook.com/search/?flt=...15317058482769

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