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    2010.April - The search area

    A thread for those who want to sleuth the search area. There is also a thread in the Member's only area that was created some time ago that has some interesting things to ponder: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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    Kimster I think we need Concerned Papa on this one. I would like to see a map of several things (all on one map of course lol)

    The search area
    mh on green ln
    GMS house
    the area of the rose

    just to name a few

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    Quote Originally Posted by suspicious1 View Post
    Kimster I think we need Concerned Papa on this one. I would like to see a map of several things (all on one map of course lol)

    The search area
    mh on green ln
    GMS house
    the area of the rose

    just to name a few
    Oh yes, he's the pro!!!

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    In the meantime, there is a map in this article:

    Divers Dig Underwater For Clues In Girl's Disappearance
    http://www.wesh.com/news/23148823/detail.html

    Divers are using special boxes to dig underwater, and they're facing difficult conditions.

    "Dark. I mean there's no visibility," a diver said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by suspicious1 View Post
    Kimster I think we need Concerned Papa on this one. I would like to see a map of several things (all on one map of course lol)

    The search area
    mh on green ln
    GMS house
    the area of the rose

    just to name a few
    One Map? Fugitaboutit!

    Here's:

    -A map showing the search area on Shell Harbor Road and it's proximity to other close points from this case

    -A map showing that the present search is approximately half way between Green Drive and GGM's in Welaka

    -A map showing 202 Green Drive and the search area where the plastic rose was found
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    But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops. Luke 12, 2-3


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    Ooo... would love to compare with the dog following scent map if that's still around...
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    I find it so strange that the car chase (RC/CJ) began right down the street from the area that is being searched now. Is this a well traveled road in that area ?

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    http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...rets-searchers

    Though they're sometimes just yards away from docks, divers working near Satsuma in southern Putnam County have a lot working against them, said Holland, who owns a home a few miles from the search scene at the end of Shell Harbour Road.

    The river bottom drops off quickly there, starting a few feet past the docks, he said.
    <snipped>

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    Why is Magnolia Dr. marked on map 1? I can't remember why that st. keeps coming up. Thanks

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    Why is Magnolia Dr. marked on map 1? I can't remember why that st. keeps coming up. Thanks
    Some Croslins used to live there. There's pics of it in the Parking Lot. I think a map there too?


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    What town is Teresa Neves' 105 Rita Lane?

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    Has anyone heard if they are searching today? It is almost 8 am have we heard if they are back out there?
    JUSTICE IS COMING HALEIGH AND CAYLEE

    YOU GOT TO LOVE JUDGE STRICKLAND
    At it's core, the defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a "self aggrandizing media hound". Indeed. The irony is rich.

    Motion granted.

    Stan Strickland
    Circuit Judge

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    All the area's being discussed are very close....this is not a large town....17 and 309 and main street....the area they are searching is roughly 5 miles by car and 2 miles by boat.

    A place LE and I went to check out last year was 5 miles by car and 12 miles by boat...people who live there, like any residence of a town know the short cuts, the place we went and checked was Big Tree Road. It did not show up on mapquest and other sites....for along time then one day it appeared on Mapquest. They pulled out all of there maps( I was amazed at all the detailed maps they had of the County)....and I showed them exactly where this little strip road was.

    PC drove me down to the end of the river and showed me a 15' alligator...

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    I am in bumping mode today lol. Bumping up this old thread..

    This is something else that has bothered me. St.Johns river search in April 2010, LE said they had never searched that area.

    Early on it was said that it was searched, Misty brought up the area last year as well. The so called Rose was in that area. The more I go back and re-read articles it seems to me that maybe Haleigh died in Lisa and Hank Sr.'s MH? That call that came in earlier that night from the Croslins home on Tyler.
    The 911 transcript that says that Haleigh was seen 1-1 1/2 hrs prior to the 911 call from how I understood it.
    So many unanswered question and so many "items of interest" that LE stated they found and later would say...oh it had nothing to do with the Haleigh case.
    Am I the only one that finds it odd that the area of the St.John's river as been an area of interest since Feb 10, 2009 and LE said that the first time it was searched was in April 2010? LE sent TES home early on in the search as well...TES could of searched St.John's river while they were down there, why did LE wait? Or did they? Am I making any sense? LOL


    Sheriff: Haleigh Likely Dead; Persons Of Interest Identified
    River Search Continues Into 3rd Day; Items Recovered


    POSTED: Thursday, April 15, 2010
    Uncut Video: Sheriff Says Haleigh Likely Dead http://www.news4jax.com/video/23164556/index.html


    "Snip" http://www.news4jax.com/news/23160821/detail.html

    Investigators said when they got the tip that led to the river, they were encouraged it would lead to something significant because it's a place they've never searched before, it's in a remote area and it's a logical place to get rid of something. Hardy called the location Thursday a possible crime scene.
    Feb. 10, 2009


    * More than 130 officers from at least 10 county, state and federal law enforcement agencies continue the search for Haleigh Cummings. They converge on Satsuma, population 5,500, located about 10 miles south of Palatka.

    * The search includes helicopters, water units and bloodhounds, which are searching a 5-mile radius around the girl's home, including the banks of the St. Johns River, which is about 300 yards from the residence.


    Feb. 11, 2009 -Divers check the St. Johns River

    * The search continues for Haleigh with about 150 officers and 20 law enforcement agencies.

    * Divers check the St. Johns River following initial signs of Haleigh's scent picked up by canine search dogs.
    Feb. 13, 2009 -

    * Investigators find several “items of interest” during a fresh search of the area near Haleigh Cummings’ home. They decline to specify what the items are and where they were found.

    * Investigators announce they will conduct more interviews of relatives and others, including some re-interviews, but decline to list names or discuss results of polygraph tests.
    Aug. 29, 2009 - http://www.gainesville.com/article/2...9756?p=8&tc=pg

    A search conducted by EquuSearch looks for clues of Haleigh but finds nothing, searchers say. Participants look in an area Croslin-Cummings talked about while taking tests to clear her name. She tells searchers to look for a red rose in a wooded area running from the St. Johns River east behind the house where the girl lived.

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    I believe the Shell Harbor area was not searched until April 2010. However, Ron told Cobra about the feeding of the alligators in that area and that it was a fave fishing spot of some/all of the Croslins. IMO, Ronald Cummings should have insisted the area be searched back when he supposedly first had suspicions about the area. He is the father of a missing child; he should have raised Holy Hell to get searches done in any area he felt suspicious about.

    TES wanted it searched back then as well, even offered to do it or to assist. According to TM, LE told him to call off his searches and leave. IIRC TM made a statement as he was packing up to leave about things being not at all like they seemed.

    Why did those who loved Haleigh not insist this area be searched in February 2009? In particular, her father, since he stated that he thought his daughter may have been put in the water there! (I am not Ron-bashing. I have given Ron the benefit of every possible doubt I can think of; his own behaviors/statements are what will not let me let go of his involvement in at least the cover-up.)

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