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  1. #16
    Cubby? Do you think we need a TWA thread?

    Just wondering....

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    You can go ahead and start a TWA Thread. I will move the info over later after you start one.
    Kind of busy or I would start one myself. thanks!
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    Talking Twa

    Starting my first thread :-)

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    posts moved. I don't think we need to look at any flight lists outside of the last half of Jan 73 or the month and date that the tickets were on that CC statement.

    Can someone refresh our memory what the dates or date was of the statement the TWA CC purchase was made?
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    Sorry the posts are out of order, they move in date order.

    I was also thinking, even with the month the tickets were purchased, that does not tell us the dates of the flight... just that the tickets were purchased correct?

    They could have been with any advance notice....
    or purchased at the airport and flown the same day?
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    True, but if we can nail down where he went shortly after Anna disappeared, it will help focus the search. Even if he actually travelled a month or two later, I still want to know where he went... and with whom.
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    Hi All,

    From the time line.
    Jan 1973 - TWA plane ticket appears to have been purchased, est ticket cost $500.

    I think it has been said before, but I will say it again. $500 for airline tickets in 1973 seems to be a lot of money. I've tried googling to see if I could find the cost of airfares in 1973, but haven't had much luck. I did check the current cost of a flight from CA to MA for 1 adult and 1 child (current flight costs) and it was $408 on economy/non flexible and CA to Italy/LIN international was $824 on economy/non refundable for 1 adult and 1 child (if I did it correctly, maybe someone in the US could check this). Oh, these were both return flights and the higher costs, not the cheap airfares.

    So, with that info, the $500 in 1973 seems EXTREMELY costly (hope you can see where I'm going with this).

    Annasmom, can you remember roughly how much it cost to fly from the US to Greece (or vice versa) back then.

    I'm also wondering if there is any way to find out (maybe Annasmon might know) what age did a child have to be over in 1973, that you had to purchase a ticket for them. I'm pretty sure that back then, in Australia, if a child could sit on your knee, then you didn't have to purchase a ticket for them, roughly 4 or 5 years old (on domestic flights, not sure about international flights).

    I think whatever those TWA tickets were purchased for in Jan 1973, they need to be checked if possible.

    Could a TWA credit card be used to purchase anything else in 1973, like you can with a normal credit card or could it only be used to purchase flight tickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie View Post
    True, but if we can nail down where he went shortly after Anna disappeared, it will help focus the search. Even if he actually travelled a month or two later, I still want to know where he went... and with whom.
    Good point Dr. Doogie.

    The G's could have given Anna to friends to look after or placed her in an orphanage until they were ready to move her, under the guise that her mother had died or abandoned her and GW needed a little time to "get settled" before he took her home. GW was Anna's bio father (and could have got a copy of her birth certificate), how hard would it be to convince anyone of that?

    How widely spread was the news of Anna's disappearance? Was it in local newspapers only or national newspapers? Was it on local TV stations only or national TV stations?

    Is it possible, if someone was looking after Anna for the G's, they wouldn't have known that she was a missing child?

  9. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    posts moved. I don't think we need to look at any flight lists outside of the last half of Jan 73 or the month and date that the tickets were on that CC statement.

    Can someone refresh our memory what the dates or date was of the statement the TWA CC purchase was made?
    I had this list on my Facebook for Anna, copied from Sherlock's list she done for us. Where are all the lists Sherlock listed?


    Travel
    738 2/16/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (10.00)
    752 3/12/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (11.37)
    772 4/16/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (11.22)
    808 6/5/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (12.58)
    814 6/13/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (12.61)
    831 7/16/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (12.28)
    852 8/23/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (15.00)
    879 9/14/1973 TWA Vacation : Travel (15.00)
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    Those would be in the BFH thread Sidekick.
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    IIRC, Anna's disappearance only made local news and the news was that she likely drowned rather than the possibility of being abducted. So it is likely people were not on the look out for an abducted child and most likely hoped she was recovered from the creek. Sad, but that is likely how her disappearance was viewed.

    It is also possible, the 500 was for 3 tickets, rather than 2.

    Also, if the TWA card was a TWA visa or mastercard, it is likely the card could have been used for any type of purchase. If it was just a TWA credit card, similiar to a Sears card, or a gas card, then credit would have only been issued for purchases through TWA. Do we know if it was a TWA mastercard or Visa or not?
    Last edited by Cubby; 04-16-2010 at 09:36 AM.
    ~JMO~

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    The lists for the TWA cc statements and other payments starts about pg 15 in the 1st BFH thread.

    Here is a link:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=50434&page=15

    Reviewing the few pages there, about 14-16, it is noted that GW had filled his gas tank twice about the time Anna went missing.

    Food for thought, and give me some feedback here with your thoughts. Is it possible, GW purchased airline tickets for a potential adoptive family and flew them into SF? Rather than flying out himself? I'm just trying to tie together any possibilities with the purchases on the TWA credit card and filling the gas tank twice in a few days.
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    [QUOTE=Cubby;5070923]The lists for the TWA cc statements and other payments starts about pg 15 in the 1st BFH thread.

    Here is a link:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=50434&page=15

    Bringing over from the TWA archives above; Doogie wrote "In summary of what we know:

    1. Waters obtained a passport prior to Anna's disappearance under false pretenses - his was not destroyed in a fire. (Post Number 378)


    Doogie, may I ask how we know about the 'false pretenses' of his passport? Can you or someone explain what this means?

    Thanks,
    Last edited by SideKick; 04-16-2010 at 11:09 AM. Reason: adding post number
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    [quote=SideKick;5071325]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    The lists for the TWA cc statements and other payments starts about pg 15 in the 1st BFH thread.

    Here is a link:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=50434&page=15

    Bringing over from the TWA archives above; Doogie wrote "In summary of what we know:

    1. Waters obtained a passport prior to Anna's disappearance under false pretenses - his was not destroyed in a fire. (Post Number 378)


    Doogie, may I ask how we know about the 'false pretenses' of his passport? Can you or someone explain what this means?

    Thanks,
    GW had a valid passport when he made his last passport application (I have copies of these applications from the State Department.) We are assuming that the "fire" which destroyed the valid passport was deliberate and was caused because he wanted to destroy any evidence of his travel, which would have been documented by the entry and exit stamps on the passport (but which are not available anywhere else). The replacement passport was not with his papers in the BFH and we assume that this was destroyed when he cleaned house before departing this world.

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    Yes, since he lived in a hotel and that hotel was not destroyed by fire, the claim that his passport was destroyed in a fire is bogus.
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