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    WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #7

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    WS is a victim friendly forum. That means we do not sleuth family or friends of a victim until LE or main stream media give us a reason too. We treat family and friends with respect and sensitivity.

    We also recognize that each poster has an opinion. They are entitled to their opinion. If you disagree with the opinion, move on - do not respond and try to change their mind. Just move on. If their opinion or post is offensive, hit the alert button (the little red triangle in the upper right corner of the post), then move on.

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    It is recognized that this case may be at a cross roads and could potentially turn in a couple of different directions. If that happens, sleuthing will also take a turn. BUT sleuthing will not take that turn unless there are solid indications from LE or the main stream media.

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    Thanks for keeping the focus on Shantina and Azriel.

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    I am curious as to why threads get closed down and new ones opened? I am still a newbie, so I really don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elf69 View Post
    I am curious as to why threads get closed down and new ones opened? I am still a newbie, so I really don't know.
    As far as I know when they get to many pages it takes to long to reload.

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    Just an FYI...I went into my profile and edited it NOT to see signatures...the pages load so much more quickly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    As far as I know when they get to many pages it takes to long to reload.
    In response to your comment about going home for her cell phone, you are right on the mark. Had she left from the HP and driven home then gotten back on the road, she would have been to CR by 11PM.

    If she just wanted to waste time until 11 pm they could have hung out at the mall til it closed - then gone to a McD's or any pizza place. Or they could have gone to a movie. (Who cares if it the last $20.00 they have or if they use a credit card they can't afford - if they are not going to be around to pay the bill - if money was a concern) KWIM?

    Olympia according to the state home page is 16 sq miles. Early on I tried Google driving to retrace where she may have been or gone - being completely unfamiliar with Olympia I ended up back to the freeway twice (out of 4 "trips") while going the wrong way from one stop to the next - there is no way someone thinking clearly could be lost in Olympia for 4 hours.
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    Tomorrow it will be 5 weeks since the Saturday SS drove with her son to the Olympia area and disappeared.

    Tomorrow also is the day they will be holding a memorial service for her in Brinnon.

    Thinking of her and her loved ones with feelings of sadness, caring and hope.

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    I keep losing track of this flyer, so just linking it in because I just happened to come across it:

    http://www.robbsimmons.com/Flyer.pdf

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    Woodard was looking forward to Smiley's arrival with her son, Azriel Carver, around 7:30 or 8 p.m. Saturday evening. They were going to spend the night at her house and get more thoroughly re-acquainted after a few years of being out of touch while they lived in different parts of the country.

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    Kat and Robb are cute to see together, great parents, good people," Tonovitz wrote.

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    Woodard described her younger stepsister as smart, nice and happy. "She likes to do family things and outdoor type things just like anybody in Washington state," Woodard said. "There's nothing out of the ordinary about her." She said Simmons also seems like a really nice guy and that they seem to get along well.

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0314...8.story?page=2

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    Mealy said Smiley has "no friends or relatives or lovers or boyfriends in Olympia or Thurston County."

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0314...8.story?page=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Tomorrow it will be 5 weeks since the Saturday SS drove with her son to the Olympia area and disappeared.

    Tomorrow also is the day they will be holding a memorial service for her in Brinnon.

    Thinking of her and her loved ones with feelings of sadness, caring and hope.
    I received this email because I am on the email distribution list for Scouting in the Orca District. I have omitted the email address and name of sender:

    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:43 PM
    Subject: Memorial Service

    District Committee,

    This is just a quick reminder that the Memorial Service for Shantina “Kat” Smiley and Azriel Carver is tomorrow, April 17th, at the below location:

    1 pm

    Brinnon Community Church
    52 Church Road
    Brinnon, WA 98320

    (360) 796-4462

    XXXXX requests that you please wear your scouting uniform. At the service the District and Council will be presenting the Spirit of the Eagle award for Azriel. Pack 4544 will be presenting the Wolf badge in memory of Azriel on behalf of the Pack.

    This is an important way that we can show support and honor a member of our Scouting Family.


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    Spirit of the Eagle award:

    The untimely death of a promising, exemplary young person represents a tragic, sorrowful occurrence for any family and community. For that reason the Boy Scouts of America created the Spirit of the Eagle Award. This award is an honorary, posthumous recognition for a registered BSA youth member who has lost his or her life in an accident or through illness. Bestowed by the National Court of Honor as part of the celebration of the young person's life, the award recognizes the joy, happiness, and life-fulfilling experience Scouting made in that life, while also helping to heal and comfort the youth member's family, loved ones, and friends with the loss.

    http://www.boyscouttrail.com/content...award-1615.asp

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    Jules71:

    That will be a nice tribute for them to all be in uniform.

    I guess the Scouts don't have a recognition award for volunteer Leaders like SS? I didn't realize the memorial was for her son, too. Although, she was so involved with her son's life and they were last together before he died, so I guess it makes sense.

    Jules71, thanks for sharing that email with us.

    Excuse my ignorance, but is this District a large one, or is there any chance you know anyone who may be attending the memorial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Mealy said Smiley has "no friends or relatives or lovers or boyfriends in Olympia or Thurston County."

    http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-0314...8.story?page=3
    She has a friend on her MySpace in the Olympia area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elf69 View Post
    She has a friend on her MySpace in the Olympia area.
    How close to where she was that night? Any idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    How close to where she was that night? Any idea?
    No idea. but last login was March 15.

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