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    According to the DA:

    On March 5th JAG led authorities to the body of Amber. The only condition was it couldn't be used against him in court. Crime scene evidence could be used against him.

    There was not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, apart from JAG's cooperation, to pursue charges of murder against him in Amber's case.

    NO agreements like that were made in Chelsea's case.
    Last edited by TravelingBug; 04-16-2010 at 07:10 PM.

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    I'm typing up the presser from video by the DA and the families and will put it here and in Chelsea's thread as soon as it's over.

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    Presser with Bonnie Dumanis (DA) and authorities and the families:

    Soul of the community has been shaken and wrapped their arms and hearts around the families and will continue to do so.

    The families now are having to face the reality of what JAG plead guilty to today. He will be sentenced on June 1st and has waived rights to appeal.

    She thanks the Sheriffs who handled Chelsea's case and finding her so persistently, and then EPD in Amber's case. LE has been working non-stop and we have them to thank for the quick resolution to this (Chelsea's) case. She also thanks the Deputy DA who was working this case.

    March 3rd 1 count of murder w/ special circumstances was filed making him eligible for the DP, and the count against him for in the case against the jogger. At that point, they didn't have concrete evidence linking him to any other crime.

    On March 5th JAG led authorities to the body of Amber. The one condition was they couldn't use that against him in court. But they could use crime scene information against him. There was not enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, apart from JAG's cooperation, to pursue charges of murder against him in Amber's case.

    No agreements were made like that in Chelsea's case.

    He submitted a signed change of plea form in Chelsea and the jogger's case, and also Amber. A factual basis for the plea is needed and was offered. By accepting a guilty plea, they got a charger for murder against Amber that they would not have gotten otherwise.

    It was a hard decision since they had the evidence and solid case in Chelsea's case and with death penalty, but given the death sentence in CA being a "hollow sentence" in CA right now, and what it would mean for the King family, and knowing that this agreement would mean guilty in Amber's case, as well, they felt this was the best thing for everyone involved (family wise).

    The agreement of guilty without the possibility of parole means he will die in court. No further comment will be able to be made until after the sentencing on June 1st. The families will be able to give their victim impact statement then.

    Nothing can replace their children, but today is another step in the journey. It only closes the legal chapter, though.

    Each family will make a brief statement.

    Mo Dubois:

    Thanks everyone for being here, thanks the DA's office for their diligence, and the LE who put so much time into the investigations. This turn of events was a surprise when they learned of it yesterday (Thursday). He is thankful for a resolution and getting justice and closure in Amber's case. He thanks the community of SD for their support for both families, and asks for privacy and time to grieve and thanks for their understanding.

    Brent King:

    We stand here because of a despicable and evil act commited against our beautiful daughter Chelsea, our family, and our community. The community whether to give our blessing to the proposal was torturous. First choice was the DP, but in CA, that has become an empty promise.

    For that reason, and the following, they support life without parole and appeal. 1) A multi year court preceding will have a destructive impact on our son; 2) Our community can heal and have closure sooner; 3) We couldn't imagine having a confession of Amber's murder and that not seeing the light of day if we didn't agree; 4) Without needing to be devoted to a trial, they can raise their son and work on bringing change in California.

    There is nothing satisfying about this moment, it's just another unbearable moment in this process.

    DA Bonnie Dumanis couldn't take questions because of the gag order, and they asked again for privacy for the families.

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    Wow! I posted a link to an article this am saying there was a court appearance, but I never saw this coming.

    I'm happy this is over with for now. At least the families can put this ordeal, his possible trial, behind them once he's sentenced. I would imagine they're going to give victim impact statements, which will be highly emotional.

    I'm so glad they've finally solved Amber's case.

    JMHO
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    Makes sense to me that he brought them to Amber and I am glad this guy pled guilty. 2 life sentences works for me.

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    What would work for me is if the taxpayers of the State of California would not have to pay for this person's incarceration for the remainder of his life. The money is better spent elsewhere.

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    Wow, this is amazing. I am very thankful that the families won't have to go through a trial and the taxpayers of CA will be saved for further debt. Now if only Chris Coleman, Casey Anthony, Misty Croslin and others could follow along and admit their guilt!

    Did I read it correctly that the King family had to agree to life without parole before Gardner would lead LE to the body of Amber?
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    I could hardly believe it when I was on my way home and I heard the court hearing and Gardner pleading guilty to each introduced charge. It made me cry. I can't even imagine how it made Chelsea's and Amber's family feel.

    Just imagine, Amber's family didn't even find out about this until yesterday. Bless them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCup View Post
    Wow, this is amazing. I am very thankful that the families won't have to go through a trial and the taxpayers of CA will be saved for further debt. Now if only Chris Coleman, Casey Anthony, Misty Croslin and others could follow along and admit their guilt!

    Did I read it correctly that the King family had to agree to life without parole before Gardner would lead LE to the body of Amber?
    phillp and nancy to that list

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmicSun View Post
    What would work for me is if the taxpayers of the State of California would not have to pay for this person's incarceration for the remainder of his life. The money is better spent elsewhere.
    exactly! Now we have to pay to feed him and put a roof over his head for the rest of his life! Let his mother support him!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CCup View Post
    Wow, this is amazing. I am very thankful that the families won't have to go through a trial and the taxpayers of CA will be saved for further debt. Now if only Chris Coleman, Casey Anthony, Misty Croslin and others could follow along and admit their guilt!

    Did I read it correctly that the King family had to agree to life without parole before Gardner would lead LE to the body of Amber?
    No, the agreement was that the information that Gardner lead LE to Amber's body would not be used against him in court. They could use any evidence gathered at the scene. No agreements were made regarding Chelsea King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCup View Post
    Wow, this is amazing. I am very thankful that the families won't have to go through a trial and the taxpayers of CA will be saved for further debt. Now if only Chris Coleman, Casey Anthony, Misty Croslin and others could follow along and admit their guilt!

    Did I read it correctly that the King family had to agree to life without parole before Gardner would lead LE to the body of Amber?
    No.

    He led the DA and investigators to the body with the condition that it couldn't be used against him in court, only crime scene, etc. evidence could. There was not enough for a case.

    Brent and Kelly King only found out yesterday about the option of LWOP. They agreed yesterday for the reasons posted above in my text with his statement.

    ETA, the DA's intonation made it clear they would have gone for the DP in both cases has they thought there was any chance to get ::any:: conviction in Amber's case at all, but that without being able to even state that JAG had led them to the body (something that Brent King said wouldn't have ever been made public without this agreement) let alone not having sufficient evidence, it had become apparent in the last days and weeks that if the DA wanted a conviction for JAG in both cases, the only way to do it was this way.
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    thank you for posting this.

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    I'm glad this part is over for both families. And glad this monster is finally off the streets for good.

    RIP Amber

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    4/16/10 Photos from the day in Court

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...-91126544.html

    So sad to see the amount of pain to these parents caused by Gardner. I kept thinking today how he should have been sentenced to life the first time out when he raped and assaulted the 13 year old girl. That's what I keep thinking about...he shouldn't have ever been released from prison.
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