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    Grandma Hollars speaks

    Mistys Grandmothers story gets more grandios every time she tells it. I don't know how the police can view her as a credible lead in the case with the family history of deceit and lies being told by each member of the family who is involved in Haileighs disappearence. Its funny how Misty and Tommy don't even flinch when they are lying on camera.
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    I hate to say it being a grandmother myself...But no I don't think she is credible and unfourtunatly I feel money may be her motive.. $35000.00 would pay for a lot of minutes on her phone so she can talk to Misty..

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    She just told stories that were told to her. She knows the phone calls were taped. What is she lying about?

    She did make observations of Joe's behavior that I don't think anyone has denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abbra View Post
    Mistys Grandmothers story gets more grandios every time she tells it. I don't know how the police can view her as a credible lead in the case with the family history of deceit and lies being told by each member of the family who is involved in Haileighs disappearence. Its funny how Misty and Tommy don't even flinch when they are lying on camera.
    No I do not think she is credible. For one thing, she changed the first part of her story on how she was told 3 times the other night when she was on both NG & JVM. Maybe it was no big deal but that really bugged me. Also, I think I read an article (going to look for it as soon as I get this post finished) yesterday that ToC attys said that conversation never happened...not that I trust this either but with both of those things I just mentioned AND the fact that she said they both called her within 15 minutes of each other to tell her what happened...I mean seriously, these 2 people have not said a word in over 14 months but then they just happen to call her within 15 minutes of each other??? Sorry, don't buy it.

    ETA: Oh and also SHardy did state when asked if the tip came from Tennessee...No. Which IF this is true then she DID lie about giving the tip.

    Snipped~ Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said this week the tip that spurred the search did not come from Tennessee, where Hollars lives. When asked if it came from the jail, Hardy wouldn't comment. ~Snipped

    Snipped~ Hollars said she was told by both of her grandchildren in calls from jail on Sunday night that their cousin, Nashville resident Joseph Overstreet, took Haleigh from her home. Overstreet was interviewed by detectives late Tuesday, and he denies any knowledge or involvement in the case.
    Werter said Friday that Croslin Jr. "did not tell Flora Hollars anything about the investigation except to have his attorney contact and meet with him."

    "This is in response to latest claims by various reporting agencies that they have verified that Tommy Croslin confessed to Hollars. He did not," Werter said. ~Snipped

    http://wwww.jacksonville.com/news/cr...-cummings-case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    She just told stories that were told to her. She knows the phone calls were taped. What is she lying about?

    She did make observations of Joe's behavior that I don't think anyone has denied.
    I agree with you about Joe's behavior...that has never been denied to my knowledge. but I just can't buy the fact that these 2 people have never said a word in over 14 months but then they just happen to call her within 15 minutes of each other.

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    She doesn't come across as a liar to me, yet. She even told the story she heard about Misty hitting Haleigh with a board, and then said she didn't believe that story. Why would she even say that if it is a story she didn't believe.

    I think she might be an enabling g-ma, but I don't know many g-ma's that aren't. LOL

    I will entertain the thought of her wanting to turn over any/everything she might have heard if she can help solve this case and collect 35K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    She just told stories that were told to her. She knows the phone calls were taped. What is she lying about?

    She did make observations of Joe's behavior that I don't think anyone has denied.
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    Not much room to stretch the truth around that, imo.
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    At this point in time, I think that Gma believed what she related about that night. I think she did call LE to tell on her grandchildren. Even though she closed her interview with NG by saying that she doesn't think that MC could have hurt Haleigh--at the opening of that interview she tells 3 stories that implicate 3 of her grandchildren.

    I'm not saying what she was told or what she thought she was told is what happened to Haleigh.

    I'm saying that I think this woman believed it was true. JMHO.

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    I am going to agree that Grma believed this is what she heard. imo She just forgot to say
    "MOO" at the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbra View Post
    Mistys Grandmothers story gets more grandios every time she tells it. I don't know how the police can view her as a credible lead in the case with the family history of deceit and lies being told by each member of the family who is involved in Haileighs disappearence. Its funny how Misty and Tommy don't even flinch when they are lying on camera.
    I have no idea if Granny Flo is credible or not, but I very much believe the information she's spreading is as non-credible as any we've heard from any lying jailbirds yet.


    But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops. Luke 12, 2-3



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    I think Grandma Flo has $signs in front of her eyes. Why in heck would Misty or Tommy confess to her knowing that they are being taped. As far as the behavior of Joe O., if she lied about the confessions of Misty and Tommy, she would lie about Joe O. too. I don't believe a word she says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexington View Post
    I think Grandma Flo has $signs in front of her eyes. Why in heck would Misty or Tommy confess to her knowing that they are being taped. As far as the behavior of Joe O., if she lied about the confessions of Misty and Tommy, she would like about Joe O. too. I don't believe a word she says.
    What I can't get past though is the only way for them to communicate with her is from the jail, and those calls are taped, so how then could she go on tv and say something completely untrue? And if what she's saying is completely untrue, what led LE to the St. Johns river search, even to the point of taking MC out of jail and to the dock? MOO
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    I just thought she was very partial to Misty and she could do no wrong in grandma's eyes. I think she is struggling and maybe confused. It has had to be HE77 on her...IMO
    As I walk through this wicked world, searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity. I ask myself--Is all hope lost? Is there only pain and hatred, and misery? And each time I feel like this inside, There's one thing I wanna know: What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? Nick Lowe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helplessly Hoping View Post
    I just thought she was very partial to Misty and she could do no wrong in grandma's eyes. I think she is struggling and maybe confused. It has had to be HE77 on her...IMO
    I got the same impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    What I can't get past though is the only way for them to communicate with her is from the jail, and those calls are taped, so how then could she go on tv and say something completely untrue? And if what she's saying is completely untrue, what led LE to the St. Johns river search, even to the point of taking MC out of jail and to the dock? MOO
    I think that Grandma Flo doesn't fully understand about the phone taping system at the jail. I believe that Tommy is the one who started all this renewed activity with the Haleigh case. It was Tommy who took the poly and soon after that the river search began.

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