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    MN - Rapist kidnapper who said would kill victim when freed may be released

    Scarred by a killer
    http://bulletin.aarp.org/states/mn/2...by_killer.html
    Mary Stauffer is still haunted by the threat from the man who in 1980 held her and her daughter, Beth, captive in his Roseville home and murdered a child bystander.

    She remembers how Ming Sen Shiue vowed 30 years ago that when he was released from prison, he would find and kill her and her daughter.

    Shiue could be released in July. A petition in Anoka County District Court, however, argues he should be sent to a maximum-security treatment facility.

    'I don't want to say that we're afraid,' Stauffer said this week. 'We don't know what could have happened in 30 years. ... But by the same token, my family knows that threat is real.'
    After 30 years, will killer, rapist Ming Sen Shiue be freed?
    http://www.startribune.com/local/north/91438514.html
    Shiue, 59, was convicted of kidnapping schoolteacher Mary Stauffer and her 8-year-old daughter, Elizabeth, and holding them hostage in his Roseville home for seven weeks. In the course of the abduction, he killed 6-year-old Jason Wilkman, who was playing in an Anoka County park when he saw the Stauffers in the trunk of Shiue's car...

    ...during his murder trial for Wilkman's death, Shiue attacked Stauffer on the witness stand. He cut her face and neck, leaving wounds that required 62 stitches.

    "I will never forget that case because of what happened in the courtroom," said Ron Meshbesher, Shiue's attorney, who declined to comment on the upcoming trial. "It was pretty frightening."

    An account of the entire ordeal can be read here:

    Mary Stauffer stalked by former math student Ming Shiue
    http://www.citypages.com/2010-02-10/...t-ming-shiue/1

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    I also found the following statement from the lawyer who defended Ming Sen Shiue back in 1981, Ron Meshberger.

    Minnesota Criminals We Have Known
    http://www.lawandpolitics.com/minnes...le=ITEM&id=302

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Meshberger
    [The Ming Sen Shiue case] was the most traumatic case I ever tried. It was strictly an insanity defense. If there was a scene in a movie similar to the one in that trial, the people would have thought the screenwriters had gone off the deep end.

    In the second trial in Anoka County, my client was on trial for murder. He had been tried in federal court for kidnapping his 8th grade school teacher. He was about 29 years old and had been obsessed with her, madly in love with her. She was a missionary to the Philippines. She and her nine-year-old daughter were kidnapped and kept hostage for about six weeks in his Roseville home, when they managed to escape and my client was arrested. The case in Anoka included the murder of a six-year-old child who had witnessed the kidnapping.

    During the cross-examination of the missionary, my client jumped over counsel table and pulled out a jail-made knife which he smuggled into the courtroom in the waistband of his prison pants. He put the knife in his hand and grabbed this woman on the witness stand around the neck (and this was a packed courtroom in a highly publicized case), and threatened to use the knife if anybody came close to him. It was a scene right out of a horror movie. The jury was cowering in the corner crying, the judge was stunned, I was in shock -- it was just an amazing scene. I'll never forget that scene.

    The deputies waited just a few seconds, rushed him, grabbed him, and as they grabbed him, the knife went down the witness's cheek, eventually requiring 27 stitches. Had it come down a little lower, she probably would have been dead.

    It was a frightening, frightening scene and I can still picture the deputies carrying my client out, in what appeared to be a catatonic state. He was just as straight as a board as three or four deputies carried him out of the courtroom. Some people actually accused me of orchestrating the event to show how crazy the defendant really was...

    I had death threats. The judge gave me a key to get into the back door of the courthouse. You talk about a lawyer having a key to the courthouse, I literally had it. It was a very bizarre case. I immediately moved for a mistrial. The judge denied it because he said my client brought it on himself. In any event, that was the most frightening moment I ever had as a lawyer and I'm glad there was no other experience close to it.

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    Many thanks for starting a thread on this.
    I pray he does not get out but knowing my state of Minnesota and being soft on crime anything is possible...

    WCCO as has old video on this new story - here is the link.

    http://wcco.com/crime/ming.sen.shiue.2.1526982.html
    Last edited by DeeMarie; 04-19-2010 at 07:58 AM.
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    Does anyone know what happened at the hearing on March 8? This is utterly ridiculous that they are even considering letting this guy out.

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    This is scary. This guy should NEVER! be free.

    fran


    After 30 years, will killer, rapist Ming Sen Shiue be freed?

    Ming Sen Shiue's sentence for kidnapping, murder and rape in 1981 is almost up. A trial in Anoka County will decide if he still is a threat.

    Last update: April 19, 2010 - 5:30 AM


    On Monday, Anoka County District Judge Jenny Walker Jasper will convene a three-day trial to decide which view is right -- whether the notorious felon from Minnesota's past is finally "cured'' or is still a threat to public safety. At the end, she must rule on a county petition to commit Shiue to a secure state treatment facility -- possibly for the rest of his life -- before his July release from prison on parole from a life sentence.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    http://www.startribune.com/local/nor...nciaec8O7EyUsl

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    he murdered a chld and then tried to kill a witness, while they were testifying and there's even a CHANCE Of him getting out?


    our justice system.......i tell ya

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    This family needs to get a license to carry. Plain and simple. We think prison rehabilatated him? Psssssshhhhh.

    My grandpop's murderers were all freed and had the audacity to come back to the neighborhood, reporduce and go on olike nothing ever happened.

    I can tell you first hand it's effected generations in my family. Heck and that didn't involve rape and kidnpping for Lord's sake.

    Shiue has no right to walk the face od this earth. Yeah, our justice system.Youkiddinme?

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    http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_14...nclick_check=1

    Ming Sen Shiue civil commitment trial started today

    Updated: 04/19/2010 01:00:19 PM CDT

    Thirty years ago, Ming Sen Shiue was convicted of kidnapping, rape and murder.

    Today, a civil commitment trial started in Anoka County District court to determine whether he should be civilly committed. He is due to be released from prison in July.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



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    http://wcco.com/local/1980.kidnappin...2.1643210.html

    Apr 19, 2010 5:57 pm US/Central
    Ming Sen Shiue: Treatment Or Parole

    Thirty years after living out a terrifying 7-week long kidnapping and enduring violent rapes, Mary Stauffer and her daughter Beth walked bravely into the Anoka County Courthouse. Inside, they would listen as Ming Sen Shiue testified that he is a changed man and ready for release.

    "But it was not easy to hear that this morning," Mary Stauffer told reporters outside the courthouse.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

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    BREAKING NEWS!

    http://www.startribune.com/local/north/91712834.html

    Ming Sen Shiue trial halted, courtroom cleared

    Last update: April 21, 2010 - 11:33 AM

    The commitment trial of Ming Sen Shiue, in prison for kidnapping, rape and murder convictions, was interrupted this morning when Shiue asked a deputy to bring over a waste basket because he was coughing up blood.

    Shiue's attorney Rick Mattox, who was cross-examining a witness, stopped his questioning, and the deputy ordered the Anoka County courtroom cleared.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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    Wonder if he pulled a fast one to stop the hearing?
    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases

    This thread currently has over 350 cases with a brief synopsis of each and we are still adding additional cases.

    You can access a spreadsheet that lists the cases in alphabetical order with the page & post number so that you can locate a particular case you may be interested in. It also contains links to any cases that already have a thread on WS.

    Many cases do not have a thread. Please feel free to start one in the appropriate forum if you would like to look into one. Should you start a thread on one of these cases, please let me know so that I can add the link to the spreadsheet.

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0


    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
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    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List

    This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBIaHRnR1g0SEE

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    how convienent


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    There is a book written about this horrible event. The final chapter will be completed after they determine what will happen with psycho.

    http://www.stalkingmary.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belinda View Post
    Wonder if he pulled a fast one to stop the hearing?
    That's actually what I thought myself. He could have just swallowed glass or something.

    JMHO
    fran

    PS...I pray they NEVER let this guy outta' jail. He's seriously a danger to society if I ever saw one. fran

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    I really hope they're considering the time he tried to STAB her IN COURT once already?! If that's not a sign he's h3ll bent on seeing her dead no matter the cost, I don't know what is! Don't let this guy out, people, are you nuts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    he murdered a chld and then tried to kill a witness, while they were testifying and there's even a CHANCE Of him getting out?


    our justice system.......i tell ya


    Did someone break into kbl's house, commandeer his computer and just type that out? That's not kbl.

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    http://www.startribune.com/local/nor...DYaGEP7eyckcUr

    Shiue's mother, victim share a talk, and hugs

    Thirty years after she was kidnapped and raped, Mary Stauffer comforted the perpetrator's mother, saying "I let her know how much I feel for her."

    Mei Dickerman planned to testify Wednesday in the civil commitment trial of her son, Ming Sen Shiue. But he suffered a medical problem, clearing the Anoka County courtroom for an unexpected two-hour recess

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