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    General Theories and Motives Rehashed #1

    Sheriff Hardy although he wouldn't name them said he had "several" POI's.

    Theories tend to change or evolve when bits of information is released. Rehash your theories and motives here. Have fun.

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    Who's on first.................
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Who's on first.................
    Mc/ToC/JO...and I think Ti/C is the catcher...

    Isn't there a theory thread...why a rehash thread?

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    This is the new thread....the other one is locked.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Do anyone think maybe ,The gun went off & hit Haleigh by accident and they all got worrid what to do
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    This is the thories thread guys. Just a fresh one.

    If your theory is the same and you want to start new discussions about it, post it and rehash it with other posters. Sometimes when a thread gets long some of the earlier theories get buried. Has anything we learned recently changed your mind even if it is a minor point.

    For example when Ronald's attorney came out swinging with his two statements last week it reinforced my feeling that Ron is somehow involved.

    I don't have a full theory. I have ideas about who may be involved. I believe Ron and Misty are involved. But one of the things that bothered me is that Ronald claims Haleigh was afraid of the dark she would never go outside. I don't believe it. I have a grandson who is afraid of the dark but one night when my daughter was walking the dog about 11pm in the front yard, he woke, found the door open and did go out in the dark yelling for her. So if Misty wasn't home and had to leave that door open because she didn't have a key, I still hold the thought that Haleigh may have gone outside.

    Lots of things bother me that don't add up. I know many people feel that Tommy is involved and have believed that for a long time. I'm just barely getting to a point of belieivng that he helped his sister in disposing of Haleigh . Perhaps that is why he was self-medicating. I just don't believe or feel he would hurt Haleigh.

    I also wonder at times have a hard time even remotely considering that Ron would cover for Misty. I think there are other people he would be loyal to, and others he may fear.

    I believe Ron and Misty are both very much into what happened. I just don't know what that is. Maybe my mind will never wrap itself around the caregivers of a child hurting that child.

    I have to say what set my mind to Ronald and Misty being involved was the day of that big event. Under the tent I can't remember what it is for but all of the investigators were there and standing under the awning and Crystal stood up and tried to talk and could barely get anything out except sobs. Sheriff Harding having a difficult time composing himself he looked like he was going to cry. Yet when Ronald spoke Harding was staring straight into the back of Ron's head. Resolute is the way I read that. A picture is worth a million words. I can't let that picture go.

    Anyway some of you are far better at theory than me. 14 months later I still have all parts and pieces flying around in my brain. A rather sad puzzle, missing lots of pieces.

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    I'm not sure, but something tells me we will be in shock when in all comes out...there's just to many twists and turns.... WAY to many..... I'm done guessing...

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    theories vs. LE statements

    Perhaps it would be helpful for us to test our theories with LE statements?

    (Maybe there should be a separate thread just for LE statements - if so, I'll acquiesce to the Mods' judgement. I just thought it would be handy if a list of LE statements were embedded in the theory thread, though.)

    I'm at werk myself, but I can quickly throw out a few things LE's stated, just for example. (These are not verbatim - I'd need time to look up the direct quotes from LE.) We'd only want to look at LE statements since the drug bust, IMO - where LE had greatly narrowed focus back to folks that Ron and/or Misty know.

    LE (after the drug bust) commented that the people responsible and/or with information about the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings were now in jail.

    LE said that this was not a stranger abduction, and the person responsible was someone known personally to Misty Croslin and/or Ron Cummings.

    LE had said there's more than one POI. They have said this may include POIs who are not in jail currently.

    LE said Haleigh is dead, and they are comfortable calling this crime a homicide.

    LE has said Haleigh may have died at the area of the search.
    (This statement I took in reverse, to mean, LE does not think she died in the Mobile Home.
    I could be wrong about that...but perhaps that is what evidence & dogs have told them...)


    LE has said they do not believe that Misty was home at the MH all night as she claims to have been.

    LE has said Misty is STILL they key.

    LE has said Misty is more calm and knows she is in big trouble.

    LE has said Tommy's interview led them to bring Tommy to the river search site.

    LE has confirmed bringing Misty to the river search site.

    LE has said they found & retrieved cinder blocks in the river at the search site.

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    This just an idea relative to thinking through theories, so please correct or add detail to my thoughts above as you see fit...
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    My new theory is that LE is in the process of solving Haleigh's murder and trying to bring down a drug ring because the two are closely tied together. It could explain why LE is playing this so close to the vest in terms of information. There are people involved in Haleigh's murder that are still on the outside, and they don't want to tip them off.

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    For the most part my theory hasn't changed...

    Haleigh got caught up in an altercation between Ron C and Misty or Ron C and someone else.. Haleigh was accidentally shot..The incident occurred before Ron C went in to work.

    I do have new thoughts as to where the incident may have occurred.. At one time I thought it took place enroute to Timmy's house in Crescent City or at his house, I now believe the incident occurred at Misty's parent's house on Magnolia, or close to Shell Harbor area...
    I do not believe Tommy was present or at the scene when the incident occurred..Not quite sure as to whether or not cousin Jo was on the scene, but when he stated.."I didn't do it", I believe him...JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    For the most part my theory hasn't changed...

    Haleigh got caught up in an altercation between Ron C and Misty or Ron C and someone else.. Haleigh was accidentally shot..The incident occurred before Ron C went in to work.

    I do have new thoughts as to where the incident may have occurred.. At one time I thought it took place enroute to Timmy's house in Crescent City or at his house, I now believe the incident occurred at Misty's parent's house on Magnolia, or close to Shell Harbor area...
    I do not believe Tommy was present or at the scene when the incident occurred..Not quite sure as to whether or not cousin Jo was on the scene, but when he stated.."I didn't do it", I believe him...JMO
    Hmmmmm...When's Lisa next due in court? I ask because of Em's theory here, and how Lisa and her knowledge could tie into it. Lisa is not allowed to leave the area, and LE has found reasons to jail both Lisa and Tommy ever since Haleigh disappeared. Could Lisa have knowledge if she came home from Hank Sr.'s hospital bed to a clean up party?

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    Thanks Gran! My theories keep changing. I'm not usually "wishy-washy" but with this case, it's unavoidable, IMO!

    Here's my theory that I posted last night:

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    I've changed my theory from Misty trading Haleigh for drugs. I lost my audience on that theory a few months ago!

    However, I still believe that Misty resented Haleigh. Haleigh was Ron's heart, they say. And she was either still high or crashing from a three day drug binge and I believe it when they say she didn't want to babysit. I think she was reckless in caring for Haleigh. Because of this lack of caring for Haleigh, Haleigh died. I don't know if they were messing with her, giving her drugs to make her sleep, if Misty got mad at her because she was going to "tell her daddy" or what - but she died in the process.

    Then Ron came home. The 911 call was made. I don't know if Misty told him what happened just prior to the call or if she told him later, but I believe at some point Ron was told what happened to Haleigh. Why he kept this a secret? I'm not sure but it certainly has to do with Ron's # one priority - drugs. That is what all of these people in this case revolve around - drugs. And just like any addict, they would go to great lengths to protect their drug lifestyle, even if that meant "dealing with Haleigh's death" themselves. They don't trust the cops. The 911 call was probably their biggest mistake in their eyes.

    It could be because of the drugs, but if not, I think Ron's first interview with him crying looks fake. The minute I saw that video I said "Oh, this family is involved". Then Misty's first interview came out where she is pushing out those tears. Oh my gosh, now we all know what she REALLY sounds like when she's upset!!! The interviews of Ron with Misty are so telling. She is looking to him for affirmation to make sure he approves of her answers.

    Thanks for reading my long late night post. I still am on the fence about this whole case. This is just my number one theory for now.

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    I have always believed that Misty is the main character in this charade. That being said, since she has been in jail and seeing how miserable she is in jail, I am almost positive that she is the one who hurt little Hayleigh. Think of it this way: We know they have offered her a deal if she will tell what happened. IF she hasn't talked, it can
    only be that she is guilty and knows that she is headed for prison. If anyone else had been responsible for Hayleigh's death, Misty would have aleady thrown them under the bus. ANYONE. She will not risk going to prison if she is not the one who "done the deed" MOO, but this is the opinion that will not leave my brain. Still up in the air as to whether or not Ronald is involved or even knows what happened. Only time will tell (hopefully).

    I do not believe that Joe hurt Hayleigh. He may have, but the simple fact is that he was way to easy for M & To/C to blame. I also don't think that Tommy hurt her, but he probably did help Misty after the fact.

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    My theory is a lot like Kimster's. I believe that Misty was ultimately responsible for HaLeighs death, through accidental OD, neglect, maybe she did intentionally hurt her (she has a wicked and revengeful temper). I think Tommy helped in clean up...and the van was involved. I dont think Joe had any involvement, or it was very small. I think that maybe he really knows nothing since after all the fingerpointing, he didnt do any himself...that tells me he doesnt know. I think its possible HaLeigh died because she may have witnessed something. I dont think RC hurt HaLeigh in anyway, other than leaving her with Misty and co. I have, however changed my mind about RC not knowing anything, I think he does know, but is protecting himself in some way because it impliclates him in something (another murder, or crime of somesort involving drugs).

    Sadly, I dont think HaLeighs body will ever be found. And unless there is a confession, I dont think we will ever know what really happened to that precious angel.


    RIP McStays

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    We know Misty did not want to babysit
    We know Ron's attorney states he absolutely was at work by 4:15
    We know there was a conversation between Misty and TN, with TN offering to pay Misty to sit with the kids
    We know that at some point, Misty decided to do so

    In my mind, we have to stop saying RON left the kids with Misty and say that TN did. And then ask: Why.

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