2010.04.29 Motion to Seal Casey's Jail Logs. Why?

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04/29/2010 Motion to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

From the Clerk of Courts records for the criminal case
Respect for Sun who posted this under Today's news...

Why request the logs be kept secret? I find this very strange. What could be the strategy in this? Is there a visitor the defense wants to keep secret? Does this visitor(s) play a part in the defense strategy? Or not? Why request the logs be withheld from the public?
 
I bumped up the visitor, commissary thread to ask the very same question. Perhaps the Mods could merge?
 
LittleBitty35 said:
04/29/2010 Motion to Seal Jail Visiting Log Records

From the Clerk of Courts records for the criminal case
Respect for Sun who posted this under Today's news...

Why request the logs be kept secret? I find this very strange. What could be the strategy in this? Is there a visitor the defense wants to keep secret? Does this visitor(s) play a part in the defense strategy? Or not? Why request the logs be withheld from the public?
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Oh.....let's see.......
Because they read WS and other forums to see what we know about the visitors?

Because a new team member will be consulting and they want it kept secret, citing work product and protecting their "strategy"?

Because they don't want any more...."let's check the visitor log to see if the docs were notarized properly"?

Because the time of day that visits take place could be "misconshtrued"?

Because KC is a celebrity errrr target for gossip?

Because defense visits to the jail may "imply" they aren't visiting often enough?

Because the 24hour marathon sessions begging her to plead out may give people the wrong idea?

Because they want us to use our "Jedi" powers to figure it out without docs? Wait....no....Lee is the Jedi.



Ok........the possibilities are endless and I am tired of typing.
 
Macushla said:
I bumped up the visitor, commissary thread to ask the very same question. Perhaps the Mods could merge?
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Sorry and TY! Just wondering if the visitor(s) that the defense may not want us to see are those with psychiatric/psychology degrees for mitigation purposes.
 
LittleBitty35 said:
Sorry and TY! Just wondering if the visitor(s) that the defense may not want us to see are those with psychiatric/psychology degrees for mitigation purposes.
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ITA - this is really the only viable direction -not only for mitigation purposes but also to plant doubt in a juror's mind that this was premeditated murder.

If some psychiatric professional can get her to elaborate on all that molestation stuff she coughed up in those letters, and she can make her family sound absolutely horrible, then perhaps one sympathetic juror will think it was an accident. If they don't, then the same stuff will serve as fodder for mitigation.

Perhaps CM was able to finally talk her into letting go of the ridiculous imaginanny story and start playing off the "I'm PETRIFIED of my mother" statement she made early on. Whatever, I'd say the Anthonys need to look out because I imagine that bus that just rolled over them is now in reverse.
 
Why? Because they have something to hide?
 
If protecting her privacy regarding psychiatric visits then IMO they could exclude those from any lists released and let the rest go. No need to seal the whole thing.
 
ZsaZsa said:
Why? Because they have something to hide?
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What I was thinking. If her parents/brother wanted to visit her...why would that be something to hide...within the general public, I mean. My best guess is someone is evaluating her and that the defense (now that JB is not in the driver's seat) does not want peeps to know she is being evaluated for the purposes of a mitigation phase. JMO. :)
 
sleutherontheside said:
If protecting her privacy regarding psychiatric visits then IMO they could exclude those from any lists released and let the rest go. No need to seal the whole thing.
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Just my best guess, but since it appears no one other than her defense "team" has visited her since her basic incarceration...I would imagine that an expert coming to see her...would make for different news.

Like for instance if, say, (and this is just an example, not truth or proof positive of anything) Dr. Phil (whom I can't stand) came to see her...what would you conclude? If say, Lillian Glass or Pat Brown came to see her (and again just using examples) or someone else of a similar background came to see her...what would you conclude about the direction the defense might be going? Just a thought. Not trying to take anyone to task or anything. Something about this reaks of mitigation to me. JMO.
 
The thing about evaluation by anyone in the mental health profession..........Terry L. stated very publicly that JB was opposed to going that route and that the disagreement led to him leaving the case.

Early on....Judge Strickland ordered mental health evaluation and if someone can help me........I believe it was with 2 different professionals.

We know Andrea Lyon sent in her own mitigation specialist a number of times. J. Barrett is a licensed clinical social worker and an expert in mitigation.

At this late date....I don't think that hiding a mental health expert is the motive. I think it is something else.
 
sleutherontheside said:
The thing about evaluation by anyone in the mental health profession..........Terry L. stated very publicly that JB was opposed to going that route and that the disagreement led to him leaving the case.

Early on....Judge Strickland ordered mental health evaluation and if someone can help me........I believe it was with 2 different professionals.

We know Andrea Lyon sent in her own mitigation specialist a number of times. J. Barrett is a licensed clinical social worker and an expert in mitigation.

At this late date....I don't think that hiding a mental health expert is the motive. I think it is something else.
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What do you think it is then? :) I have no idea.
 
sleutherontheside said:
Oh.....let's see.......
Because they read WS and other forums to see what we know about the visitors?

Because a new team member will be consulting and they want it kept secret, citing work product and protecting their "strategy"?

Because they don't want any more...."let's check the visitor log to see if the docs were notarized properly"?

Because the time of day that visits take place could be "misconshtrued"?

Because KC is a celebrity errrr target for gossip?

Because defense visits to the jail may "imply" they aren't visiting often enough?

Because the 24hour marathon sessions begging her to plead out may give people the wrong idea?

Because they want us to use our "Jedi" powers to figure it out without docs? Wait....no....Lee is the Jedi.



Ok........the possibilities are endless and I am tired of typing.
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Don't forget that the defense believes it deserves special treatment, because we all know Casey is special for some reason and not just another murderer! Also, I bet they don't want to see the odd 4-hour sessions with the lawyer Casey has a crush on. But hey, anything other than having to put up a defense I guess!
 
LittleBitty35 said:
What do you think it is then? :) I have no idea.
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I don't know........I just know that the mitigation specialist visited a number of times ,and I would think that they would have argued this motion earlier if that was the motivation.

I can't help but wonder if this is an effort to capitalize on Judge Perry's intolerance for antics ,and to try to gain more privacy....using this in an effort to control the big top atmosphere (that they created).

Or...........that there is a strategy that may be exposed by virtue of visitor names. As an example....if 31 accident reconstruction specialists visit, or addiction specialists start visiting......etc.....
 
TinPan said:
Beach, I just got here, what other thread?
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The old "Casey's confinement, visitors log" thread that was bumped up.

Denjet linked showing the day CM went to get KC's signature on the Motion for Recusal. Initially I had misinterpreted it, but Denjet explained. Very interesting and makes a lot of sense as to why they might have filed this motion, in addition to what has been stated here.. The first link, especially.
 
sleutherontheside said:
I don't know........I just know that the mitigation specialist visited a number of times ,and I would think that they would have argued this motion earlier if that was the motivation.

I can't help but wonder if this is an effort to capitalize on Judge Perry's intolerance for antics ,and to try to gain more privacy....using this in an effort to control the big top atmosphere (that they created).

Or...........that there is a strategy that may be exposed by virtue of visitor names. As an example....if 31 accident reconstruction specialists visit, or addiction specialists start visiting......etc.....
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Agreed. Something is just not reading right to me. JMO. I don't know what strategy the defense means to imply but you can't have it both ways. You can't say SODDI and/or it could have been have an accident. Just doesn't feel right. Kind of like Reille Hunter's interview with Oprah today. Just a lot of hot air. I guess, like most, I am getting fairly annoyed by all of this posturing. Either KC knows what happened to Caylee or she does not. It can't be both ways.
 
Because they have nothing else to do? Because their creative stall tactics are running dry? Because the more motions they file, the more time they think they'll have? Because, they can? Who knows. Who the heck knows.

I'm inclined to think they flash their plumes around whatever topic is most relevant here, at WS.
 
LittleBitty35 said:
Agreed. Something is just not reading right to me. JMO. I don't know what strategy the defense means to imply but you can't have it both ways. You can't say SODDI and/or it could have been have an accident. Just doesn't feel right. Kind of like Reille Hunter's interview with Oprah today. Just a lot of hot air. I guess, like most, I am getting fairly annoyed by all of this posturing. Either KC knows what happened to Caylee or she does not. It can't be both ways.
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Yeah lest we forget Zani, Kronk, the TES searchers, the Grunds, etc...How many defenses can they have lol?
 
Could it have anything to do with this article:
http://www..com/2010/04/casey-anthonys-jail-visits/

It shows that the motion to recuse Judge Strickland was filed with the court at 4:48 PM on Apr. 16th signed by Casey and notarized by Mason. Yet, the jail visitor log shows Mason left the visit with Casey on that day at 4:52 PM.
 
sleutherontheside said:
The thing about evaluation by anyone in the mental health profession..........Terry L. stated very publicly that JB was opposed to going that route and that the disagreement led to him leaving the case.

Early on....Judge Strickland ordered mental health evaluation and if someone can help me........I believe it was with 2 different professionals.

We know Andrea Lyon sent in her own mitigation specialist a number of times. J. Barrett is a licensed clinical social worker and an expert in mitigation.

At this late date....I don't think that hiding a mental health expert is the motive. I think it is something else.
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My first thought was family....she is lonely.
 
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