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  1. #16
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    Carrie McGonigle is courageous in a battle that would break anyone's spirit. I pray for her to continue to have strength, and to hold on to her faith. It seems cruel now not to give her a chance to talk to Gardner if it will help her get some closure.

    I thought Carrie McGonigle was straight forward with Gardner's Mother and Sister. They are looking very afraid. How do they know what anyone will do to even them? Remember the garage door? After fleeing in fear, I only hope that Gardner's mother immediately started trying to figure out how to help Carrie get a chance to talk to Gardner. It would be a kind gesture if she could arrange something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy2441 View Post
    From Channel 10 news: Includes video

    http://www.10news.com/news/23525372/detail.html

    When asked if she had anything to say to McGonigle, Gardnerís sister said, ďNo comment. Leave my mom alone. You donít even know!Ē



    The above was a direct quote from the channel 10 news article. Leave it to the media to get it wrong again. I think Carrie was civil with these women. I didn't see her acting in a way that was aggressive or threatening. I think it was a missed opportunity for Gardner's family to show some compassion and humanity towards his victims family by simply acknowledging the pain & suffering caused by their brother and son.

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    I just watched the video and she did say "leave my mom alone" to the press
    Last edited by LadyL; 05-12-2010 at 05:42 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Frankly I dont even know why his family would want to visit him ? Could you imagine having to try and look him in the face after knowing what he did and admitted to it ! There is know way I could do that, I am afraid that person would be dead to me ....moo
    What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
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    ok, I know where the confusion lies - there are two different videos from different angles that we're looking at

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    if that were my son, I would definately want to visit him - to look him in the face and try to reconcile for myself that I raised a murderer - to ask him why, to look for some kind of remorse in his face, and perhaps to say goodbye and to express my own devastation b/c of his crimes

    Amber's mom seems remarkably in control of herself - I doubt I'd have the guts to do that and I'm also pretty sure I wouldn't have the courage/desire to face Gardner - he creeps me the heck out

    I feel for both families - the horror is unimaginable
    they both want answers

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    Gardner will have to face the families in court on Friday:

    Confessed killer John Albert Gardner III is facing life behind bars, but first he must face one of his victims and the family of two others in court Friday.

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...port-released/
    Last edited by Nancy2441; 05-12-2010 at 06:21 PM.

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    This video shows more of what went down before and after.

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...-93532054.html

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    He should be forced to meet with Carrie, and answer any questions that Carrie has. And then, he should be executed. No... he should be tortured, and then executed. Because, he tortured (rape is torture) Carrie's daughter, and then 'executed' Amber. And now, he continues to torture Carrie, Amber's mother.

    It is so unfair that he is allowed to visit with his family, after he made sure Amber's family will never be able to visit with, hold, touch, hug, comfort Amber again. They just spent the longest, most agonizing year, wondering, worrying, sick with fear over where Amber could be. Who took her? Where is she? Is she alive? Is she in pain? Is she scared, is she being brave? Does she realize we are looking for her? Does she know how much we love her/When will we have answers? Will I be able to hold her, touch her, ever again?

    I'm the mother of an only child, a daughter. I have nothing but respect and compassion for Carrie, Amber's mom. Carrie was s desperate and determined to find and rescue her daughter, she was doing actual stake-outs outside local sex offender's homes. Gardner was one of them- but she couldn't have known which one to follow and concentrate on, because there were too many. My heart aches for what Carrie has been through, is going through, will always be be going through.

    I think the laws should be changed. I think if convicted of kidnapping, rape and murder of a minor, such as Amber, the convicted should lose all contact with the outside world. No visitation or letters to/from family. No interviews with the press (like he just recently gave over the phone). No audience whatsoever.

    But really, he should be executed.

    When I find a spider in my home, I grab a sheet of notebook paper, and do everything I can to get it to climb onto the paper so I can quickly carry it outside so I don't kill it. Spiders creep me out, but I can't bring myself to kill them.

    Yet, if necessary, I would be comfortable flipping the switch on Gardener, with my own hand. Give me the needle full of the death fluid that will stop his heart, and I will gladly plunge it into his vein.

    If what he has done to these girls, to these families, to these communities doesn't warrant the death penalty, then by God, what does?
    .... ....... My posts are my opinion, only.

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    Amber's Mom Visits With John Gardner

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...-93638644.html

    McGonigle said she got a call early this afternoon from a sheriff's deputy at San Diego County Central Jail. She said the deputy told her that Gardner wanted to meet with her and that she had to be at the jail by 3 p.m.

    McGonigle said she began asking Gardner questions about how he took Amber, who was last seen on her way to school on Feb. 13, 2009. The Escondido teen's mother said he answered every one of her questions during their 30-minute meeting.

    Source: Amber's Mom Talks to Gardner in Jail | NBC San Diego
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    It sounds like it was a visit that helped Amber's Mother get some answers. Good. Let's put him away forever then on Friday.

    http://www.10news.com/news/23535375/detail.html

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    I just watched 10 news here in San Diego. Amber's mom said she will not release details of what Gardner told her, out of respect for Amber's Dad, Moe. Carrie said Moe is not ready to hear any details about what happened to Amber. Until he is, the public won't hear it either.

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    I can't believe that woman pushed Amber's mom! Talk about adding insult to injury. My heart broke for Carrie all over again. What a courageous woman. I hope she has some peace of mind somehow.

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    It took a tremendous amount of courage for Carrie to sit and face her daughter's murderer and ask the details of her abduction and murder. I'm glad she finally got the answers she needed.

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