Identified! Canada - Toronto, Ont, Human remains in park, May'10 - Abu-Ubaida Atieque

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Unidentified remains found in Toronto region. I thought this might be of interest to a few cases ongoing on WS.

Toronto police are investigating the discovery of human remains found friday at a Scarborough park. The remains were spotted by a passerby at the Morningside Avenue entrance to Morningside park who then called police.

It isn't known yet if the remains are that of a man or woman or how long they have been there, but they appear to be badly decomposed. Police sources say they are not those of 18-year-old Mariam Makhniashvili who disappeared September 14, 2009...

More at:
http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/Human+remains+found+Scarborough+park/3000089/story.html
 
Police investigate discovery of human remains
Updated: Fri May. 07 2010 4:00:54 PM
ctvtoronto.ca
Property and clothing have also been found at the scene.

Morningside Park is bounded by Ellesmere Road to the north, Morningside Avenue to the east and Orton Park Road to the west.
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more: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100507/human-remains-morningside-100507/20100507/?hub=TorontoNewHome
 
so if they already know it's not Mariam, then I speculate it's obviously a man?
 
so if they already know it's not Mariam, then I speculate it's obviously a man?


CP24 JUST reported that the remains were that of a man. They have been known to make mistakes, but there's a 50/50 chance of this being correct.
 
I wondered if there was any possibility that it might have been the remains of Elizabeth Bain, the Scarborough, U of T student, whose body was never recovered??

That park is SO close to home!
 
I wondered if there was any possibility that it might have been the remains of Elizabeth Bain, the Scarborough, U of T student, whose body was never recovered??

That park is SO close to home!

I wait not so patiently for these remains to be identified. Could it be Elizabeth? I also wonder if it could be another victim of Russell Williams because this is also near the Scarborough campus of the University of Toronto where Russ went to school.

Pics of Morningside Park

http://www.google.ca/images?rlz=1T4...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=6&ved=0CD8QsAQwBQ
 
I wait not so patiently for these remains to be identified. Could it be Elizabeth? I also wonder if it could be another victim of Russell Williams because this is also near the Scarborough campus of the University of Toronto where Russ went to school.

Pics of Morningside Park

http://www.google.ca/images?rlz=1T4...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=6&ved=0CD8QsAQwBQ

I am waiting not so patiently also. When I first heard about it that was my first reaction that it was E. Bain -given the area where she went missing. I grew up right in that area and I know the park really well.
 
If is was E Bain then the remains would be completely skeletonized. LE stated that it is not Mariam Mahkniashvili so my guess is that the remains are not completely skeletal. JMO
 
If is was E Bain then the remains would be completely skeletonized. LE stated that it is not Mariam Mahkniashvili so my guess is that the remains are not completely skeletal. JMO

ITA. Late last night, CP24 reported (on TV, but not online) that the remains were those of a male. I couldn't find any confirmation of this anywhere today. In fact, there appear to be no updates on this story since then. This revelation could very well be another example of the media jumping the gun.

JMO

EDIT: Just found this:

"the remains were that of a male"


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/05/07/tor-remains-morningside.html
 
I am wondering if it might be Sandy Abt, who's been missing some time - I started a thread for him somewhere a while back - I'll add the link when I can.

Missing for a year: Where is Sandy?

Jacquie House fears the worst ‘because we have nothing to go on…'
October 08, 2009
BY CHERRI GREENO, RECORD STAFF
PUSLINCH — The pain doesn't get easier.

If anything, it gets worse as the days drag on for Jacquie House.

One year ago yesterday, on Oct. 7, 2008, her brother disappeared. No one — not police, family or friends — can figure out what happened.

“I think he's been killed,” she said of her brother, Alexander Byron Abt, known as Sandy to his friends. “Because we have nothing to go on.”

Sandy, 44, was last seen working at Schneider's Refinishing on Forwell Road, where he painted cars and trucks. His mother had taken him his dinner at around 5 p.m.

“I know there are people that know what happened,” House said.

More at:
http://news.therecord.com/article/609779


EDIT: Mr Abt's WS thread:
Canada - Ontario - Alexander Byron Abt, 45 - October 6, 2008 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
 
ITA. Late last night, CP24 reported (on TV, but not online) that the remains were those of a male. I couldn't find any confirmation of this anywhere today. In fact, there appear to be no updates on this story since then. This revelation could very well be another example of the media jumping the gun.

JMO

EDIT: Just found this:

"the remains were that of a male"


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/05/07/tor-remains-morningside.html

Sandy's sister is wondering too....she's commented under the news story at the cbc news link.

So how much longer will an ID take? Personal belongings found with body - should help right? I know, not always.

The police said "suspicious" death and also asked the person that found the body not to reveal any info about what he saw.

Makes me think the deceased did not die of natural causes.

:waitasec:
 
CANADA Canada - Paul Michael Foster, 28 years old, Hamilton, Ontario - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Paul Michael Foster has been missing since Jan 10, 2010.
If you have any information regarding his whereabouts please call Central division detectives at 905-546-3833.


Cops search for missing city man
Left his pet dog behind

John Burman
The Hamilton Spectator
(Jan 22, 2010)



read more = http://www.thespec.com/article/709743

Paul's home was approximately 1hr south west from this location.
 
Sandy's sister is wondering too....she's commented under the news story at the cbc news link.

So how much longer will an ID take? Personal belongings found with body - should help right? I know, not always.

The police said "suspicious" death and also asked the person that found the body not to reveal any info about what he saw.

Makes me think the deceased did not die of natural causes.

:waitasec:

"No foul play is suspected and a post-mortem examination is scheduled for Wednesday, May 12, 2010."

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/newsreleases/pdfs/18779.pdf
 
On Toronto CTV . ca, at the end of the VIDEO clip entitled:

"Mariam's father gets bail after arrest" (on the 2:13 mark), reporter Austin Delaney said that LE says

the remains found at the Morningside Park are those of a homeless man; no foul play is suspected.
 
I hope that they release his identity anyway. There is a homeless man in our neighbourhood who is quite well known. He was once a U of T Professor but developed a mental illness.
I last saw him two weekends ago at Morningside/Lawrence.
I hope that it isn't him
 
I hope that they release his identity anyway. There is a homeless man in our neighbourhood who is quite well known. He was once a U of T Professor but developed a mental illness.
I last saw him two weekends ago at Morningside/Lawrence.
I hope that it isn't him

Violet, maybe there are more than one familiar homeless men in that neighbourhood, I don't know. But a few years ago, I was standing in line at Tim Hortons at Morningside and Lawrence. There was an obviously homeless older man in front of me. He was generally filthy, but I noticed most that his bare calves were absolutely black with dirt. I think he was wearing a trench coat. Do you think this was the same man?
 

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