After reading their "love story", I can already see her defense.
She says she had a diabetic episode....one of the 2 life saving acts from her prince. Maybe she was in a diabetic coma when Ethan was killed.
They both seem very proud of the fact that she is able not to provoke his bad boy side. Maybe Ethan wasn't as adept at that. She can claim she wasn't able to stop her groom once provoked. Then she was threatened, yada, yada, yada......
Yeah she is so in LOVE with him, but I can garunantee she has thrown him under the bus on this one .......
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From a post that commented on the story in the Salt Lake Tribune
WEDNESDAY, May 12, 2010
mommy#2: 5/12/2010 12:25:00 AM +22
My children and Ethan shared the same father. I want everyone to know Ethan would make your heart melt. He was so sweet and love to give you hugs. He was funny and done the cutest little things. I have taken Ethan of many family vacations. Just me, lil man and my children. He called me momma #2. I treated him as my own.
Stephanie on the other hand is evil. I have know her for serveral. She became the stepmother to my children. I have always said she is the type of person that would spit on the ground and drown her own mother in it. But i can't believe she would do nothing while this Nate guy put his hands on Ethan. Even, if this would of never happen today i couldn't say one nice thing about Stephanie. She abandit my ex-husband and Ethan back in Sept 2009 to be with this guy Nathan. Never once did she send money to help out my ex for child expense. She didn't care! My ex thought he was doing the right thing by allowing Ethan to spend time with his mother. Ethan met Nate for the first time with Stephanie brought him up there to Uath. My ex and Stephanie divorce was finalized April 28,2010. She married this murderer 2 days later.
Ethan i know you can hear me and hear our prayer but i am so sorry this happen to you. You didn't deserve this. I don't know why your mother murder you. We will never understand. We love you. Your bubba and sissy are very hurt but i want you to knwo we will be strong for you. You brought a lot of joy to me and anyone you were around. Your daddy is so sorry for letting you go up there. But i promise we all didn't know. I knew your mother was crazy but i didnt know she was that crazy. I promise Ethan she and Nate will be punished for what they did. Love always mommy #2
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The tattoo WPS that is listed by LE must stand for redacted name of minor. The boy she is holding in the photos on the wedding site is redacted name of minor. Must be his son from the first marriage. He may not have lost custody. The ex-wife may have felt the need to actually 'kidnap' their son to protect him. My experience with the courts says they gave him visitation and didn't pay attention to his ex-wife. His own son is probably lucky to be alive. JMHO
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Mario McNeill found guilty of murder of Shaniya Davis...now let's move on to AD!!!!!
All my posts are MOO and nothing but MOO!!!!
I found the name of his ex. Won't post it. Seems they were married in Fla. Oct. 99 and moved to Utah. High school sweethearts.
Family members are beginning to talk....
Visitation was court ordered!
per link above
Joe, Ethans dad, didn't want to let him go and Ethan didn't want to go......
now they were married may 6th...according to that article...not that it matters really except wondering why they moved up the wedding when it was all planned...
does sound as though father did not want to send little boy to utah, if step-grandma is to be believed...i hate that courts might be responsible...if she had abandoned him for a man as recently as last fall, father should have been able to fight this for a while...jmo
Just my opinion, of course.
Could it be that they got married after Ethan was murdered - because married people cannot testify against their spouses involuntarily? I know that's the case in many states, so Utah may be the same way; the prosecution cannot compell a spouse to testify against the other one.
That is the only reason I can think of to get married "earlier this month" as opposed to the original, set, published date.
Ethan, my heart breaks for you. Enjoy the Arms of God...for He will never forsake you. You and your Dad will be in my thoughts and prayers for some long time to come.
It wasn't just you. Reading that sent red flags to my brain as well.
The other thing that I found odd, and have to go back and find it, but NS refers to his child being kidnapped? Puhlease! I'm not going to further comment on his child..... but I highly doubt it was 'kidnapping' in any legal definition, parental or otherwise.
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Several have noticed that mom looks a little drugged and that this Nate idiot has a drug mfg. charge in his past. I also read (and noted mention here) of Amanda-something's post on the other board. She does seem to have some seemingly good information, and posted that Ethan had been poisoned. Looking at the charges and thinking, and even reading what Ethan's step mom said (that Steph was crazy but that she couldn't imagine her letting Nate hurt Ethan), I give the idea of poison credence. Perhaps step-dad and mom had some bad substances out and about, that Ethan got into. From what I've read on that wedding site, seems like they probably are too wrapped up in each other to pay attention to a sweet little boy. I noticed, too, that while there were no pics of Ethan there, there were pics of her with idiot-Nate's son. I always hate to think someone would purposely set an innocent child up to take something. There have also been those parents who want the kids to be quiet (not seen or heard) and who medicate along those lines and with horrible results. I would have to check again, but the charges lead me to believe that this may be the scenario - something happened, intentional or accidental - and no one thought to get help or it was too late by the time they thought to pay attention. Not calling it in even then leads me to think drugs, of the illegal variety, were involved. Think of being a parent, and your first thought not being of a crushing loss of your child, but of saving your own arse. That's when I realize how some people really aren't parents at all, let alone human beings.
Not at all like the average engaged couple, IMO.
This happened in my town. I was immediately suspicious.
It wasn't just the "walked out five times in ten days" statement (numbers ending in 5 and 0 are an auditor's red flag) ... but the egg-donor's claim that Ethan had found his way back each previous time sealed it.
A four-year-old MAY walk out of an apartment, but if they've only lived there for ten days, how in holy blazes would they find their way back once ... let alone five times in a row? The place is a maze of buildings (LINK)
The complex once was the nicest in town (next door to the then-new mall), but like all others, it's managed thinly to create profit, sold and sold again, and now it's a $500/month haven for some pretty shady people. It's one of those places that makes you go "hmmmm" when you hear of a missing persons case.
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Was the info that she abandoned her family on any news site, or just in comments sections from stories? Just wondering...if we know this to be true, or if they could have been separated at the time.
Just my opinion, of course.
I don't know if there is a clause that is specific to a murder charge of a child of either partner in the marriage. Someone else may know.