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    ETA: Sorry for repeating myself... I'm just so excited to see that this case may finally be moving forward and perhaps little Caylee will finally get the justice she deserves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by countzero View Post
    Hi joypath, since you're in the professional same as Dr G, will her depo, taken by JB & crew be more concise than the report she submitted?

    This is one of the depos I am interested in, Dr G being Caylees voice.

    Hi count! Actually it depends if she's on the witness list! and.....I'm not sure I've seen her listed! As noted in the state's response, the defense could have been deposing the state witnesses throughout the past year since the state list was available (of course additional folks might be added!).
    Now your question: in general, the depo is essentially the trial questions asked without a jury present, asked in depth if the questioning side chooses to get an idea how the info will be presented, (I will admit that I am BORING and DRY with a small audience, fired-up and "teacherish" IF the Judge will permit in front of the jury). This is the point where the scientific techniques are investigated but the otherside doesn't challenge, they save that for trial or it comes out in their depo. The "trick" to the depo process is to stay in character and on fact, avoid being "baited". There may be discussion regarding what displays will be presented to demonstrate the testimony and both sides may work out pretrial agreements over that material and sharing the dsplay material rather than duplicating. My best guess, this deposition will not be released before trial, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joypath View Post
    Hi count! Actually it depends if she's on the witness list! and.....I'm not sure I've seen her listed! As noted in the state's response, the defense could have been deposing the state witnesses throughout the past year since the state list was available (of course additional folks might be added!).
    Now your question: in general, the depo is essentially the trial questions asked without a jury present, asked in depth if the questioning side chooses to get an idea how the info will be presented, (I will admit that I am BORING and DRY with a small audience, fired-up and "teacherish" IF the Judge will permit in front of the jury). This is the point where the scientific techniques are investigated but the otherside doesn't challenge, they save that for trial or it comes out in their depo. The "trick" to the depo process is to stay in character and on fact, avoid being "baited". There may be discussion regarding what displays will be presented to demonstrate the testimony and both sides may work out pretrial agreements over that material and sharing the dsplay material rather than duplicating. My best guess, this deposition will not be released before trial, tho.

    Thanks .... you answered some of my inquires about it. I haven't looked at the updated witness list, but I cannot imagine Dr G not being on it. And the pre-trial agreements was great info. Thanks again for ALL you do, here and in your professional capacity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jennyb View Post
    Yes, I messed that up. I definitely didn't mean Baez.

    I meant JP but didn't realize you all go with HHJP.

    I don't comment here much.
    Doesn't matter at all jennyb - and please post more - lots of times. I did much the same thing until I was asked ???? So just for fun we write HHJP because one of Casey's friends was also a JP and it gets confusing - no worries. And it happens to us all so don't be scared away. And not all of us do - it's just that the Judge is a heavy hitter and gets some "respect". LOL

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    Sooner or later HHJP is going to start this trial! As much as J Baez thinks he can delay & be obscure to finally tire everyone on the case,it won't work. The SA & his Honor are professionals. I don't know why J Baez doesn't comprehend, possibly he is in over his head. I think a new lead attorney should take over & some investigation in to the elusive $200,000 done. Taxpayers need to find the defense accountable. We are all conscious of how tight $$ is & how responsible our courts & the JAC have to be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by southernbrunette View Post
    You are so right!! I, too, am VERY MAD!

    I am not even a Florida resident and I am incensed and appalled for you! This defense team is so utterly sneaky, manipulative, lying and lazy to boot. They are all about flapping their gums to the media and playing games at the expense of the Florida taxpayers. I certainly hope that once HHJP gets ahold of this he will put them right in their place!!!

    Oh, and they cannot even proofread/ spell check their motions! I guess one could say that they are without a doubt unprofessional.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmerty_Jones View Post
    Sooner or later HHJP is going to start this trial! As much as J Baez thinks he can delay & be obscure to finally tire everyone on the case,it won't work. The SA & his Honor are professionals. I don't know why J Baez doesn't comprehend, possibly he is in over his head. I think a new lead attorney should take over & some investigation in to the elusive $200,000 done. Taxpayers need to find the defense accountable. We are all conscious of how tight $$ is & how responsible our courts & the JAC have to be.
    As a Florida Taxpayer, I want everything possible to be done to avoid a retrial due to an appeal. Since we're footing the bill for experts, why can't the judge appoint a public defender to "sit beside" JB and make absolutely sure that everything is conveyed to the client etc. etc. I'd rather pay the cost of a public defender NOW vs. a retrial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by niaa View Post
    As a Florida Taxpayer, I want everything possible to be done to avoid a retrial due to an appeal. Since we're footing the bill for experts, why can't the judge appoint a public defender to "sit beside" JB and make absolutely sure that everything is conveyed to the client etc. etc. I'd rather pay the cost of a public defender NOW vs. a retrial.
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    Niaa everyone wants that, even us folks who are not residents of Florida. But the defense can proceed to do this without flagrantly disrespecting the Florida taxpayers and wasting valuable time and money! Why not post your terrific question on the "questions for lawyers" thread?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    Well, I am not sure that this is going to go over well, but I will give it a shot. To my own horror, I find myself defending - up to a point- the defense. I know, I know, they have been idiots in a number of ways. However, having said that; their witnesses could not do their work or finish their work or even start their work until they KNEW what they were going to be working on. I will be the first to admit that I do not remember when the first scientific evidence started being released to the public. Let's take the autopsy report as an example. When was the final report released? Until that report was released the defense did not know EXACTLY what kind of experts they would need - aside from the obvious second opinion on the autopsy itself - until they knew what the report contained. Their plant specialist, trace evidence specialist, etc. Am I making myself understood enough here? Their experts could not get started until the State turned over evidence for them to examine and report on.

    Do I think the defense delayed on purpose? Yes, I do, but we have to give their experts a little slack because their work only began when the State released the evidence and reports to them.

    I have to disagree. Considering there were defense experts (Henry Lee, the Bones Lady, a couple of others) at the scene on the day Caylee was found tells me they knew zactly what they needed...
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    The State told the Judge (in this Motion -
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/38686486...-for-Extension )

    that the ONLY people they are having trouble getting a depo scheduled with, are Crystal and Brandon S (Roy Kronk's ex wife and his son), and Laura B (the searcher who LE suspects may have falsified a TES search form). Page 1, paragraph 3 of this doc.

    Interesting that Crystal S was soooooooo willing to email secretly with Leonard P. and dish dirt on Roy and tell Leonard that Roy told her, and his son, that Roy's girlfriend (works at the jail in a different building) had told Roy where Caylee's remains were, and Leonard stated numerous times on NG show, but now she and her son are resisting saying this UNDER OATH in a deposition.

    Same with Laura B....... now she does not want to say what she said in her Affidavit, UNDER OATH in a depo, which the Defense is relying heavily on.
    She said she searched the exact area and definitely states that Caylee's remains were NOT there.

    Judge P has already said that if either side is having trouble getting people to do a depo, let him know, and they will get one courtesy phone call, after that he will give them a chance to let him know GOOD CAUSE why he should not hold them in CONTEMPT of COURT!


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    Speaking of the good Judge (and contempt of court)...does anyone know if the defense filed their witness list?


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    Salvarenga posted these this morning on Today's News but nothing else has shown up yet.

    05/14/2010 Motion for Transcription Services
    05/17/2010 Order Addressing Pending Death Penalty Motions

    I've been watching for something!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    Speaking of the good Judge (and contempt of court)...does anyone know if the defense filed their witness list?
    Nope, not on the clerk's site yet! They've still got 10 minutes though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macushla View Post
    Well, I am not sure that this is going to go over well, but I will give it a shot. To my own horror, I find myself defending - up to a point- the defense. I know, I know, they have been idiots in a number of ways. However, having said that; their witnesses could not do their work or finish their work or even start their work until they KNEW what they were going to be working on. I will be the first to admit that I do not remember when the first scientific evidence started being released to the public. Let's take the autopsy report as an example. When was the final report released? Until that report was released the defense did not know EXACTLY what kind of experts they would need - aside from the obvious second opinion on the autopsy itself - until they knew what the report contained. Their plant specialist, trace evidence specialist, etc. Am I making myself understood enough here? Their experts could not get started until the State turned over evidence for them to examine and report on.

    Do I think the defense delayed on purpose? Yes, I do, but we have to give their experts a little slack because their work only began when the State released the evidence and reports to them.
    Oh, the horror.

    Good point Macushla, and I agree with you - about the experts.

    But there are PLENTY of other non-expert people that they could have been interviewing and/or deposing in the meantime. Ones whose interviews were released long, long ago.

    Like this latest request today, where they're asking for 8 transcripts, on the taxpayers dime. I don't have the doc yet so I don't know who they're asking for, but if it's a non-expert, I'm gonna be PO'd again.

    I'm probably going to be getting PO'd lots of times over the next year. Might as well get used to it. heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzikman View Post
    Nope, not on the clerk's site yet! They've still got 10 minutes though.
    WFTV just said they had it.
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