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    IMO, these 2 have got to be drug addicts, there is NO way they could be this stupid and delusional without the help of drugs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymama View Post
    bbm. I have only seen the interview for PS, so I'd appreciate any other links that have anything she said. From what I gathered in the interview, PS said NS "fought for the underdog" which really made me That's why I am having a problem with PS because you hear NS is unstable, yet he fights for the underdog? Which one is it? Does she think he's unstable or loving and caring?

    He sure as **** didn't fight for Ethan.
    She also described NS as a kind and sensitive spirit who just wanted to give to others.

    It was things like that that influenced my perception of her and made me suspicious about her saying she saw Ethan on the 5th, and he was happy and healthy.

    I haven't seen anything else, and I'm curious to know if she continues in this vein or not.

    Here's the video wherein she says all these things. (There's another video of her that is just a short excerpt of this one, and it misses a lot.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCup View Post
    IMO, these 2 have got to be drug addicts, there is NO way they could be this stupid and delusional without the help of drugs!
    I'm afraid certain personality types could, but since it's an even scarier thought, I keep waiting to hear about drugs, too. So far, nothing. They could have spent the day getting rid of the evidence.

    I wonder if they were tested upon arrest, and if so, what could be gleaned from the results, particularly about the timeline.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    http://www.fox13now.com/media/acroba...5/53746992.pdf


    OMG. The anger and rage this guy has. This was in 09 that this was filed. Ethan did not stand a chance around this scum.
    I agree, RubyRed...but I respectfully add:


    Not only his rage, but his REASONS for that rage! --He apparently takes great issue with his ex-wife not placing their daughter FIRST, that the ex-wife places herself, her new boyfriend and vacations above caring for their daughter and the little girl's first week of school. Nathan also has great rage at the mere thought of his ex-wife's boyfriend laying a hand on his daughter, threatening their lives if the boyfriend ever even thought of touching HIS daughter.

    His RAGE is over the very behaviors that define HIM!!! Mental stability is NOT a part of his personality, that's for sure!

    I also noticed his level of articulation differs greatly from his wedding facebook page and the transcript of his voicemail messages. Granted, he was in his rage phase, but his foundational language skills appeared to be from two very different people; maybe there IS something to this "multiple personality disorder" idea? Either way, MY only wish is for him to personally experience (repeatedly) the same abuse he inflicted upon that poor, sweet baby, Ethan. And perhaps it would be fitting if Ethan's Daddy was the one to administer that punishment!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffet View Post
    I'm afraid certain personality types could, but since it's an even scarier thought, I keep waiting to hear about drugs, too. So far, nothing. They could have spent the day getting rid of the evidence.

    I wonder if they were tested upon arrest, and if so, what could be gleaned from the results, particularly about the timeline.
    They may very well just be monsters, plain and simple.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mish View Post
    I agree, RubyRed...but I respectfully add:


    Not only his rage, but his REASONS for that rage! --He apparently takes great issue with his ex-wife not placing their daughter FIRST, that the ex-wife places herself, her new boyfriend and vacations above caring for their daughter and the little girl's first week of school. Nathan also has great rage at the mere thought of his ex-wife's boyfriend laying a hand on his daughter, threatening their lives if the boyfriend ever even thought of touching HIS daughter.
    Ironic...NS ended up carrying out the very act he railed and threatened against. Maybe on a subconscious level, he was carrying out a form of revenge on a little boy that had nothing at all to do with any of it.

    I also noticed his level of articulation differs greatly from his wedding facebook page and the transcript of his voicemail messages. Granted, he was in his rage phase, but his foundational language skills appeared to be from two very different people; maybe there IS something to this "multiple personality disorder" idea? Either way, MY only wish is for him to personally experience (repeatedly) the same abuse he inflicted upon that poor, sweet baby, Ethan. And perhaps it would be fitting if Ethan's Daddy was the one to administer that punishment!!

    -Mish
    Very interesting point.

    Another reason why the wedding page language may have differed so much from the voice mail language is because one was written and the other was verbal (and later transcribed). Many, many folks' written communications are drastically different from their spoken syntax.

    And transcription in itself is another filter. Whoever transcribed those voice mails may have chosen to use or omit certain punctuations and phrasings.

    Also, the wedding page required more "formal" and controlled language written on a public platform and possibly subject to proofs and revisions, whereas the voice mail message was entirely natural, spontaneous, emotionally charged speech intended for one person. MOO....

    In any case, this aspect of language you mention is very, very intriguing to me. Thanks for bringing it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffet View Post
    I couldn't decide which, but narrowed it down to;

    - He's had other women who incited fights between him and other men, just to enjoy his "protecting" them.

    - She protects herself by not provoking him.
    NS obviously prefers beating up women and small children... When he has to fight a REAL man he doesn't like it so much.... probably because he gets physical injuries...
    So I guess SS was giving him a break so to speak by not forcing him to fight for her? MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ailina View Post
    Ironic...NS ended up carrying out the very act he railed and threatened against. Maybe on a subconscious level, he was carrying out a form of revenge on a little boy that had nothing at all to do with any of it.



    Very interesting point.

    Another reason why the wedding page language may have differed so much from the voice mail language is because one was written and the other was verbal (and later transcribed). Many, many folks' written communications are drastically different from their spoken syntax.

    And transcription in itself is another filter. Whoever transcribed those voice mails may have chosen to use or omit certain punctuations and phrasings.

    Also, the wedding page required more "formal" and controlled language written on a public platform and possibly subject to proofs and revisions, whereas the voice mail message was entirely natural, spontaneous, emotionally charged speech intended for one person. MOO....

    In any case, this aspect of language you mention is very, very intriguing to me. Thanks for bringing it up!

    Maybe he did not write the garbage on their wedding page?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    Maybe he did not write the garbage on their wedding page?
    That crossed my mind, too. I don't know which thought makes me sicker -- that he DID write it, or that he pawned that job off on someone else. (eyeroll)

    But as controlling as he's coming off to be, somehow, I don't think he'd feel anyone else could do that job as well as he could. Who knows.
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    I am glad that Joe has Michelle to lean on during this difficult time. I am thankful they seem to have a great relationship despite being divorced. It has to be so hard on both of them even though Michelle was not his "real" mom it sounds like she was more of one than SS ever was. I cannot even imagine what the two older kids are going through. This horrible tragedy can only bring this family closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gngr~snap View Post
    NS obviously prefers beating up women and small children... When he has to fight a REAL man he doesn't like it so much.... probably because he gets physical injuries...
    So I guess SS was giving him a break so to speak by not forcing him to fight for her?
    Guys like him do not fight men. They are cowards. They cry if they get a paper cut. He was big and tough to an innocent child, but to fight a man. No. Even in his phone rants to his ex he verbally goes on ad nauseam about the man she is seeing. Would he ever say those things face to face to that man? No. He would run with his tail between his legs.


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    Who really knows?!
    I am fairly confident that the same person didn't write both pices on the Wedding page.

    Looking at what the "groom" wrote (whoever it may have been) The writer was very proud of him/herself based on the odd capitalizations through out the piece. Especially when referencing themself...

    What was written by the "bride" followed a more normal writing where capitalizations were used appropriately throughout. MOO


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    Just getting back ... first we learn there would be no spousal privilege in this case, and now this:

    Quote Originally Posted by monkeymama
    Idaho does not have an insanity defense and while looking, I found this:

    "Four states, including Kansas, Montana, Idaho, Utah, do not allow the insanity defense. In other states, the standards for proving this defense vary widely. The following provides the status of the insanity defense in each jurisdiction."
    Sucks to be them.


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    No spousal priviledge, no insanity.....best news I've heard all day!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffet View Post
    Thank you for that link, gngr~snap. I can relate to CJ. It's a terrible feeling.

    Another item of note in that article was this, regarding NS's 2007-8 divorce filings:

    In court filings, Nathan Sloop denied abusing her and denied being diagnosed with a mental illness other than obsessive compulsive disorder. No domestic violence charges were filed against him in Utah.
    Rut roh. So much for "New York".

    Not that it matters in Utah, of course.


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