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    Quote Originally Posted by liz b. View Post
    Something that struck me about the Lindsay Buziak case : her boyfriend called her around 6pm. When she didn't answer,he called 911 right away ? Why ? And it is reported that he then went over to the house, and went in through the back door and found her body in the house ? If she was so apprehensive,why didn't her boyfriend go with her to show the house ?

    This is a really strange case. I do wonder about the woman who called her, and the guy who supposedly showed up alone to view the house. It makes no sense... was she sexually assaulted by the killer ? Why would she have been targeted ? Quite a bit of planning,involving a few people. Including the cell phone name... For what purpose ?
    I agree. There is also no mention of any of her property missing, such as a wallet or jewelry. The motive for this crime is a mystery. In the Mike Emert case, I think the motive was robbery by ambush. The murderer wanted no witnesses and didn't have a gun to rob a younger man, who could fight back if only a knife or bat were the weapons. An empty home is the perfect place for an ambush.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterygirl View Post
    Authorities speculate that she was mistaken as a target--I'm wondering why.

    She (Lindsey) was not the listed agent on the house. Is it possible that another realtor was the intended target?
    It could very well be. I also thought the same about Mike Emert's case, or the thought of someone using him to make a statement towards someone else. Emert did have fellow relatives who worked within the same real estate company around the Seattle area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    I agree. There is also no mention of any of her property missing, such as a wallet or jewelry. The motive for this crime is a mystery. In the Mike Emert case, I think the motive was robbery by ambush. The murderer wanted no witnesses and didn't have a gun to rob a younger man, who could fight back if only a knife or bat were the weapons. An empty home is the perfect place for an ambush.
    I saw the Buziak Dateline NBC episode last night. If anyone missed it, it will be online to watch before tomorrow (Sunday 9/19/10) at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/

    This is a very perplexing case. Like Mike Emert, Buziak was found upstairs in a bedroom of a nice home, but not in a bathtub like Emert. I have to disagree with what some of the Dateline forensic experts said... they think mistaken identity, I disagree. This was a well thought-out and planned murder, they made sure everything went like clockwork, and didn't leave any evidence behind.

    Her killers even made it appear that they vanished into thin air after her murder. No car was seen around the house, and no one witnesses saw the two suspects walking away from the home and through the neighborhood.

    The details of the case are still a little vague compared to Emerts... was Buziak held against her will as she was stabbed by the other person? Was she attacked from behind? They said she tried to use her cell phone as she was being stabbed multiple times to the chest and head. How many times was she stabbed? Did she try to defend herself?

    As strange and sad as this case is, I'm surprised that Victoria and Vancouver Canadian regions (a close as they are to the Seattle area region) didn't use the new real estate security measures that went into place after Emert's murder by having all real estate agents photocopy ID of all prospective buyers, and to introduce the buyers to all office personnel before showing a home. These measures went into affect with real estate companies all along the west coast, and even in Chicago, and now the east coast as well.

    Sounds like news of Emert's murder never made it to the Canadian regions up north.

    But one thing's for sure... in the Al Kite, Mike Emert, and Lindsay Buziak cases, all the suspects were methodical, and use phony accents.

    Dateline Timeline of Lindsay Buziak's Murder: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39226448/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/
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    The Emert case has held my attention for years now. Perhaps it's because I used to have family in the King County area. The first time I heard about this case was years ago on the TV show "Unsolved Mysteries" and have looked it up several times over the years for any updates.
    At one point, I too was of the opinion that this was a "professional hit" for lack of another theory, but it has never really felt right to me. It seems odd to me that a hit man would have so much interaction with his victim prior to the crime. Every time he spoke with Mr. Emert on the phone, every time he met with him in person was an opportunity for him (the assailant) to be exposed. By spending so much time with Mr. Emert before the crime, the assailant ran the risk of his victim passing along identifying information or even becoming wise to him. This seems like a HUGE amount of risky behavior for a "professional".
    I've also always been bothered by the weapon of choice. First off, stabbing has always seemed very personal to me, not the business as usual approach you would expect from a hired hit. Second, there was the number of wounds. I would expect to see as few wounds as possible in the case of a hired hit. Quite frankly, 20 approximate stab seems to be more consistant with a personal motive.
    I've always wished that LE were able to be more forthcoming with the details surrounding the discovery of Mr. Emert's cell phone. It seems to me that the post crime phone usage could provide some very valuable information regarding this case. I would imagine that LE has already meticulously followed up on this potential lead.
    My deepest sympathies for the Emert family. I still hold out hope, even ten years later, that justice will be served.


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    ~snip~

    Our investigative team first reported Monday night that the now-deceased Krueger is the prime suspect in at least three unsolved murders including:

    •The 2001 stabbing death of Bellevue realtor, Mike Emert
    •The 1981 shooting of former police officer and Everett gas station owner, Terry Dolan
    •The 1984 stabbing of Bellevue attorney, Jim Barry

    Investigative Reporter Chris Halsne now digs into how a long FBI delay negatively affected the Emert case and others.

    more at link

    http://www.kirotv.com/investigations...20/detail.html


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    So bizarre. I've been really interested in this case in the past, and had no idea it would turn out this way. I wonder if Krueger deliberately killed himself at the lake because he failed in his attempt kill his last target. And who is (who are) the person(s) who hired Krueger, and why???

    I don't think the Al Kite case is connected to Krueger because the killer of Al Kite seems to have been too young (estimated at in his 40s) to be Krueger.

    Eerie and bizarre.
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    The murder of Mike Emert has been solved to the extent that, through DNA, his murderer has been identified. The real story, however, has yet to unfold. The murderer, Gary Krueger, is an ex-Seattle PD officer who was suspected of at least two other murders and was incarcerated 2002-2007 for bank robbery. He died in 2010 during a failed home invasion. I can't find his birth date but he was in his 60's when he died.

    The mystery now is motive which might come out as more of Gary Krueger's back story comes out. He is belived to be a career criminal going back to the 1970's when he left the SPD but he managed to avoid arrest until 2002. There is some speculation that he was some kind of "hit man".


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    According to the Social Security Death Index Interactive Search website I like to use, a Gary C. Krueger from Seattle died on March 27, 2010 and was born January 28, 1948, making him 62 years old when he died.

    This case makes me wonder how many other violent criminals are walking the streets simply because of DNA testing backlogs at various crime labs.


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    I wonder if Krueger could have been the killer of Thomas Wales? Certainly a "bad cop" would have had motive to kill an Assistant US Attorney who could have been on to him.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77719
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    Wonder who hired Krueger ? Probably someone local, as Krueger was local...
    Who had a motive to have Mike killed ?

    When Mike was killed the housing market here in the Seattle area was red hot...multiple offers and bidding wars were very common. Wonder if someone lost out on their dreamhouse,and harbored an increasing rage and resentment directed at Mike ???

    Or else,as a previous poster mentioned.Mike was involved in something other than just real estate...and LE has declined to mention it...

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    Fascinating development. I was always hopeful Emert's murder would be solved.

    http://www.portlandscw32.com/mostwan...,7083607.story


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    Washington State has some of the most intriguing murderers and now Gary Krueger can be added to the list.
    In addition to Mike Emert, it is believed he is responsible for:
    1) The murder of Ex-cop/gas station owner Terry Dolan in February 2, 1981. Apparently Krueger was a POI all along but was never arrested for the crime
    2) The 1984 stabbing of Bellevue attorney, Jim Barry February 7, 1984. Apparently Barry represented a bank in its collection efforts and Krueger owed money to that bank. Was that a motive for murder? It is not clear how Krueger was linked to the crime.
    3) Onetime Seattle union boss Mario Vaccarino, 61, head of the Hotel and Restaurant Employees union Local 8, was killed Oct. 24, 1985. His body was found in a tub with running water (just like Mike Emert). Apparently Krueger told someone he did it for a friend who worked for that union and was about to be fired by Vaccarino. There is indication that that friend is now dead.
    4) Cheryl Grose, missing since 1991. She simply vanished from a Tigard, Oregon hotel. Turns out her husband Tom Grose, prime suspect, was lifelong friends with Gary Krueger who was best man at their wedding. Tom Grose is currently incarcerated for an unrelated Domestic violence incident.

    Krueger died during what has been called a botched home invasion. The intended victim was an orthopedic surgeon named Dr. Craig McAllister. It is not clear what Krueger and John Bradshaw, his partner in crime were up to. Home invasion suggests forcing the homeowner to open a safe or otherwise give them cash or valuables from the house. Apparently a friend of Krueger had been a patient of Dr McAllister and they had some sort of dispute. Were Krueger and Bradshaw planning to kill the Doctor?

    I don't believe there is a known connection between Krueger and Emert but there presumably was some connection. Most likely someone wanted Emert dead and they knew Gary Krueger.

    John Brashaw is a bit of a mystery. He was 65 in 2010. He did federal time for a 2001 Arson and Money laundering conviction. He also apparently owned a home on the west side of Pungent Sound where Krueger and his wife lived in the 1990's. Law Enforcement believes he died along with Krueger in Lake Washington but they don't know for sure. His wife filed a missing person report on him soon after the Home invasion caper went down.

    The FBI is conducting an extensive investigation of Krueger and all of his connections. They are guarded about what information is released but it is obvious that Krueger is a suspect in a number of additional murders and he is believed to have other accomplices besides Bradshaw.
    There has been some conjecture that Krueger was involved in the shooting of Federal Attorney Thomas Wales, who was shot to death in his Queen Anne home on Oct. 11, 2001. Krueger has no know links to Wales but that year Bradshaw was prosecuted by the Seattle office of the Dept of Justice. It is possible that Wales was involved in his prosecution but I cannot verify it. This murder differed from others linked to Krueger in that it was an assassination involving proficient marksmanship. The other murder seems to be of the more up close and personnel kind.
    I think a lot more information will be coming out on this case.




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    Quote Originally Posted by kemo View Post
    [FONT=Gautami]Washington State has some of the most intriguing murderers and now Gary Krueger can be added to the list.
    In addition to Mike Emert, it is believed he is responsible for:
    1) The murder of Ex-cop/gas station owner Terry Dolan in February 2, 1981. Apparently Krueger was a POI all along but was never arrested for the crime
    2) The 1984 stabbing of Bellevue attorney, Jim Barry February 7, 1984. Apparently Barry represented a bank in its collection efforts and Krueger owed money to that bank. Was that a motive for murder? It is not clear how Krueger was linked to the crime.
    3) Onetime Seattle union boss Mario Vaccarino, 61, head of the Hotel and Restaurant Employees union Local 8, was killed Oct. 24, 1985. His body was found in a tub with running water (just like Mike Emert). Apparently Krueger told someone he did it for a friend who worked for that union and was about to be fired by Vaccarino. There is indication that that friend is now dead.
    4) Cheryl Grose, missing since 1991. She simply vanished from a Tigard, Oregon hotel. Turns out her husband Tom Grose, prime suspect, was lifelong friends with Gary Krueger who was best man at their wedding. Tom Grose is currently incarcerated for an unrelated Domestic violence incident.

    Krueger died during what has been called a botched home invasion. The intended victim was an orthopedic surgeon named Dr. Craig McAllister. It is not clear what Krueger and John Bradshaw, his partner in crime were up to. Home invasion suggests forcing the homeowner to open a safe or otherwise give them cash or valuables from the house. Apparently a friend of Krueger had been a patient of Dr McAllister and they had some sort of dispute. Were Krueger and Bradshaw planning to kill the Doctor?

    I don't believe there is a known connection between Krueger and Emert but there presumably was some connection. Most likely someone wanted Emert dead and they knew Gary Krueger.
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    John Brashaw is a bit of a mystery. He was 65 in 2010. He did federal time for a 2001 Arson and Money laundering conviction. He also apparently owned a home on the west side of Pungent Sound where Krueger and his wife lived in the 1990's. Law Enforcement believes he died along with Krueger in Lake Washington but they don't know for sure. His wife filed a missing person report on him soon after the Home invasion caper went down.

    The FBI is conducting an extensive investigation of Krueger and all of his connections. They are guarded about what information is released but it is obvious that Krueger is a suspect in a number of additional murders and he is believed to have other accomplices besides Bradshaw.
    There has been some conjecture that Krueger was involved in the shooting of Federal Attorney Thomas Wales, who was shot to death in his Queen Anne home on Oct. 11, 2001. Krueger has no know links to Wales but that year Bradshaw was prosecuted by the Seattle office of the Dept of Justice. It is possible that Wales was involved in his prosecution but I cannot verify it. This murder differed from others linked to Krueger in that it was an assassination involving proficient marksmanship. The other murder seems to be of the more up close and personnel kind.
    I think a lot more information will be coming out on this case.


    BBM Yes, I agree..either someone who he had maybe a close and personal relationship with,or someone who felt wronged in a real estate deal ?

    I remember reading a description of a person seen in Tom Wales' neighborhood, a stranger,who was walking around checking everything out...but, I think he was described as a fairly young guy..

    JMO


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    Tom Wales

    BBM Yes, I agree..either someone who he had maybe a close and personal relationship with,or someone who felt wronged in a real estate deal ?

    I remember reading a description of a person seen in Tom Wales' neighborhood, a stranger,who was walking around checking everything out...but, I think he was described as a fairly young guy..

    liz b

    I saw a composit of the guy seen "casing" the neighborhood
    and he seemed quite young (28-35?)and didn't look anything like Krueger or Bradshaw. There is no confirmation that he was the perp however.

    Whoever shot Wales was a pretty good marksman. He was shot through the window with an unusual handgun (a Russian made Makarov). The investigation came to pretty much a dead end. The Prime Suspect was someone involved in the sales of surplus Military aircraft. Wales conducted a lenthy fraud investigation against this guy but it did not result in a prosecution. The guy had a motive and was pretty made about the investigation but no link to the murder could be made.

    The Wales case resemples the Emert case in that it was a deliberate planned killing yet there was no obvious motive.
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    I'm so glad the Mike Emert case has been solved through DNA. This case haunted my mother and I when it happened that cold, rainy day 3 miles from our own home. We talked about this case endlessly. It was very scary. When my mother sold her house in 2003, she had hired a realtor from Mike's office that knew him and his family. There was one day before we moved, she told us that Mike had put up a big fight against his attacker because the weapon punctured his fists and went up into his arms. Knowing this the last several years and now knowing his killer (Krueger) was injured and bled during the attack, Mike (knowing he wasn't going to survive) made it his mission to try and injure Krueger to leave evidence behind. And Mike succeeded!

    One a positive note, the case was solved before the phasing out of the King County Police Cold Case Unit which is at the end of this 2012 year (in a few weeks) because lack of grant funding. So sad though for the other hundreds of cases still unsolved in the area. And also sad is that the police have openly admitted that the case is not solved because there is the known "unknown" personal connection between Mike and Krueger, plus the unknown motive. Police stated that (even though Krueger's DNA was found on Mike and in his car) that Kreuger still remains a "person of interest." Whatever!


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