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    Quote Originally Posted by sleuthy sleutherson View Post
    I am very confused as to how a child can just disappear from school like this. This seems to be a fairly small school and quite a bit of activity going on that day, meaning people were probably all over the place, how does a seven year old just disappear around all these people without someone noticing something? With all the searches done around the area I don't see this as a wandering off case, unless he went outside on his own and was then snatched. Still you would think with every thing going on someone would have noticed him going outside or seen him outside.

    Why on earth would his backpack still be there, he is not in class and no one thought, hum where is Kryson....something is not right here. Where is this little boy and how could no one have noticed something? Praying he is found safe and soon.
    Starting to look like someone inside the school, doesn't it? I asked yesterday about video cameras, are there any in that school? if so, and nothing is seen, it is possible that the person knew the locations of them and made sure they weren't on them, just another thought.

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    Nothing is adding up on a timeline yet from the school's part. The stepmom's timeline works. The school's doesn't. I wonder why? NOBODY noticed him missing in his classes?
    This is all my opinion, which is subject to change with more information, if the wind changes direction, or if I wake up in a different mood...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    It is pretty clear that Kyron didn't wonder off. Maybe he went into the boy's room just prior to class and someone was waiting for any child to come in. If the person was a familiar face, they may have asked him to help carry something to the fair and lured him to the car. I hate to think that, but he has just vanished! There was a case of a student, who was put in a wall of a school, University, I can't remember the names anymore. That's sad, tells me so many lives missing or taken, we can't remember the names. I wonder if the school is being searched with dogs, inside?
    bbm. Yes, they used dogs to search inside the day he went missing. It sounds like it was a very thorough search - even the roof.

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    I asked this last night and no one replied, I'm sure it was simply overlooked. Have they checked inside the school? do they have lockers? what about checking the basement, janitors closet, he could have been locked in somewhere., either by accident as him goofing off cause he was bored or an older student playing a practical joke and is now scared they will get in trouble. Do we know if they have turned that school inside out yet, or just checking the school grounds?
    What about checking other peoples camera, maybe someone clicked a picture or have a video of someone that shouldn't be there.
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    Who took his picture in front of the fair exibit? His, step mom, so I wonder if any other parents have pictures and if LE are going through them to see who was in that room or around the area of the class rooms? Any chaperons or people not where they should have been for an hour of so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThinker View Post
    Nothing is adding up on a timeline yet from the school's part. The stepmom's timeline works. The school's doesn't. I wonder why? NOBODY noticed him missing in his classes?
    They did notice him missing. The Superintendant stated they thought the boy had left the school that morning with his stepmother, so they weren't worried about his absence.

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    For reference purposes, family members include:

    Kaine Horman - Kyron's father. 36 yo. Works at Intel. Kyron lives with his father, stepmother Terri and 18 month old half sister.

    Terri Moulton Horman - Kyron's stepmother. She has been a primary caregiver in Kyron's life since he was an infant. (Kyron's bio parents split around the time he was born.)

    Desiree Hormon - Kyron's bio mom. Lives in Medford OR. Kyron visits her every couple of weeks. Desiree rushed to Portland when she received the news of Kyron's disappearance.

    Carol Moulton. Terri's mother. Lives in Roseburg OR, (about 6 hours away?).

    Terri's 16 yo biological son. According to the article linked below, he currently lives with Terri's parents, Carol and her husband, in Roseburg. That son's bio dad also lives in the area (I presume they mean Roseburg area, not Portland.)


    Details emerge about the day Kyron Horman turned up missing
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    While I don't think he just wandered off, I don't think anything is clear at all. LE does not seem to mentioning any kind of abduction scenario at all, that I have seen, and doing ground searches in area, while necessary, does not make me think that they think he was taken away in a car. I just don't know what to think-unless they are telling other parents that there is a danger and kids should stay home tomorrow? Anyone up there in area hearing anything about a possible abduction being mentioned that I may have missed? I know it is possible-but I have not even heard them say they don't think it was an abduction-I may have missed it. It seems as though they think he may have gone outside and become lost or injured, etc...and their wording, as always the case with LE, is so cautious, it is hard to glean anything at all...they have used the words "integrity of investigation" which always makes me wonder if they know more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    It is pretty clear that Kyron didn't wonder off. Maybe he went into the boy's room just prior to class and someone was waiting for any child to come in. If the person was a familiar face, they may have asked him to help carry something to the fair and lured him to the car. I hate to think that, but he has just vanished! There was a case of a student, who was put in a wall of a school, University, I can't remember the names anymore. That's sad, tells me so many lives missing or taken, we can't remember the names. I wonder if the school is being searched with dogs, inside?
    That would be Annie Le

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    interesting comment left by "randomd00d" on this story (not sure if i can post it verbatim, so i'll just include a link). haven't heard this before --

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i....html#comments

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    I asked this last night and no one replied, I'm sure it was simply overlooked. Have they checked inside the school? .
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    I am sure the FBI and all other LE checked the school. It was probably the first place cleared.


    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    While I don't think he just wandered off, I don't think anything is clear at all. LE does not seem to mentioning any kind of abduction scenario at all, that I have seen, and doing ground searches in area, while necessary, does not make me think that they think he was taken away in a car. .
    They were looking through people's homes. One picture showed them entering a house and going through what was either an attic or garage. If I remember correctly they were starting to search about 3 miles away from the school. I think an abduction is a real possibility and they are just not tipping their hand to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlestonGal View Post
    They did notice him missing. The Superintendant stated they thought the boy had left the school that morning with his stepmother, so they weren't worried about his absence.
    I am just curious as to why no one called to make sure he had left with her, being his backpack was still there and no one has at this point mentioned they were under the impression he would be leaving school after the Science Fair. I understand it was a busy day and it may be normal for kids to leave with parents after events like this, but if it isn't mentioned to the teacher, I'm taking Kyron home after the Science Fair today, and then I see his backpack and not him after class starts, I would begin asking questions and call the parent to make sure he was with them, JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    I asked this last night and no one replied, I'm sure it was simply overlooked. Have they checked inside the school? do they have lockers? what about checking the basement, janitors closet, he could have been locked in somewhere., either by accident as him goofing off cause he was bored or an older student playing a practical joke and is now scared they will get in trouble. Do we know if they have turned that school inside out yet, or just checking the school grounds?
    What about checking other peoples camera, maybe someone clicked a picture or have a video of someone that shouldn't be there.
    BBM. I think you should call that in to LE as an idea. They could put a call out to everyone who was at the school to bring all cameras, pictures, and videos to the police station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlestonGal View Post
    They did notice him missing. The Superintendant stated they thought the boy had left the school that morning with his stepmother, so they weren't worried about his absence.
    He was so excited about his science project that I wonder why staff didn't wonder why he'd go home? Why would he and his stepmom go to the school to just set up the project only to turn around and go back home? Was he marked absent in classes?

    Geez I don't know , I'm just talking to myself. This case is baffling.

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    That is an interesting comment on that page and very specific...however posters on some of these news sites are absolutely loony, so hard to take seriously. IF that happened, very very strange indeed.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hndinglove View Post
    interesting comment left by "randomd00d" on this story (not sure if i can post it verbatim, so i'll just include a link). haven't heard this before --

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i....html#comments
    It is possibly a troll because we have not heard those facts.

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    PS- Not sure if LE believes that an child abduction has taken place, they keep that info back from public...would be a matter of responsibility to public and safety; I don't see holding that back to keep from tipping off offender, IMO...

    Have they issued that info, as done with Kayleah, about anyone acting strangely lately, etc...all that stuff to look for in the case of a possible abductor? Usually once FBI is in, they will put that stuff out, while info is fresh in people's minds...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    BBM. I think you should call that in to LE as an idea. They could put a call out to everyone who was at the school to bring all cameras, pictures, and videos to the police station.
    The FBI are well trained intelligent people, I would think they are on top of that.

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    After hearing all of the details, and the quotes from LE... I feel something is "off". I've looked through a few Facebook albums of the stepmom's, and the family just looks so normal and loving, I really hope none of them are involved.

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    of course it could be a troll. most of the other comments there are out there.

    but ya never know, so i thought i'd put it out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    It is possibly a troll because we have not heard those facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    It is possibly a troll because we have not heard those facts.
    That's hearsay and the comment needs to be deleted from this thread. Whoever posted it - please delete. Against TOS to post such info. Link is okay. Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    PS- Not sure if LE believes that an child abduction has taken place, they keep that info back from public...would be a matter of responsibility to public and safety; I don't see holding that back to keep from tipping off offender, IMO...

    Have they issued that info, as done with Kayleah, about anyone acting strangely lately, etc...all that stuff to look for in the case of a possible abductor? Usually once FBI is in, they will put that stuff out, while info is fresh in people's minds...
    GMTA. I posted the tips the FBI gave in Kayleah's case here in the thread earlier. I haven't heard them say it specifically in this case. They are helpful tips, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sc2714 View Post
    After hearing all of the details, and the quotes from LE... I feel something is "off". I've looked through a few Facebook albums of the stepmom's, and the family just looks so normal and loving, I really hope none of them are involved.
    Are you FB friends with the mom? I went to her page and couldn't see any pictures ???
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    As a former teacher, I cannot emphasize enough that to take Kyron from that school would be an incredibly easy thing.

    "Stranger danger" is a relative term for children. They are children and do not have the brain skills to do all kinds of abstract thinking. Even adults seem to go off with strangers and never are heard from again. Think of all of those "match up" sites on the net.

    The school is a familiar, safe place. The people in the school are not "strangers". Hence, any person that may have asked Kyron to help him/her with something is not a stranger, in most children's eyes.

    There is even a famous study that some researchers did with children whose parents were positive that their child would not go off with a stranger. The child did (laboratory setting).

    Either this was a crime of opportunity by some nut that was there, or it was planned by some nut.

    These child predators have PHD's in their form of sickness. They know where children are. Hence, that is why they go there. A nut could have known that this type of activity with people coming and going would present a perfect opportunity. Or some nut just happened to be there.

    Think of a wedding or funeral. Do you actually have any idea who all of the people are there and what relationship they have to the family? That is much more of an intimate setting.

    Think of a school activity where people have no idea of who some of the others may be. 300 children. Parents, relatives. That's a lot of potential unknowns to the people that are at this fair.

    I just think that there should be better procedures for things like this. Too many people coming and going. And teachers should never assume anything-such as Kyron left with his step mom.

    Not that I think it would have made a difference . Over an hour had passed since he was last seen and school started. Too much time gone by already.
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    Do we know why the 16 year old stepbrother is now living with her parents and not her or his dad? Just curious.
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