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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxson View Post
    Definitely assisted by an adult (I have 5 kids and have helped with at least 25 science fair projects) but I don't see it as a control issue. Its neat and tidy but definitely not over done for the age group imo. In the early days my kids had to do everything by hand, nowadays we print it all out on computer.
    One of the links said his dad works at Intel - maybe he is great with the computer and has taught his son more than most 7yo would know. Kyron's science project was great. Sure he had help from adults, and that help may encourage and help develop his curiosity and love of science. I'm a science person and had all kinds of help and encouragement from family as I was growning up. just a thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by sleuthy sleutherson View Post
    I feel the need to further comment about the statements given by LE in presser. I have no doubt in my mind that they have confirmation if he was or wasn't in one of the groups with a monitor viewing the other exhibits. I have no doubt in my mind they have confirmation that he did or did not have an appointment, this is part of their job to confirm these things. And the very vague he was seen at a later time in the morning by another student only adds to the shadiness of the timeline of his disapperance.

    If LE truely want the publics assitance in finding this little boy they should be releasing these very key, important details and they are not, which gives me the feeling they have a pretty good idea about what happened and they are just not ready to say yet until they have evidence to back it up and prove it.
    I agree. It's frustrating for us to not get the information, but if LE isn't putting it out there, I think it's because they don't see a reason to release it. I also don't think school would be in session tomorrow if there was a serious unknown threat at the school. At least I hope not. I still wouldn't let my child attend until I knew what had happened.


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    I said this before, you couldn't pay me enough to send my child to that school tomorrow. My biggest fear is that he is still in that school somewhere. I hope they have searched it with a fine tooth comb.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eyes4crime View Post
    One of the links said his dad works at Intel - maybe he is great with the computer and has taught his son more than most 7yo would know. Kyron's science project was great. Sure he had help from adults, and that help may encourage and help develop his curiosity and love of science. I'm a science person and had all kinds of help and encouragement from family as I was growning up. just a thought
    You can tell by his face in the picture that he is under the impression that he did it himself. He's too cute. My daughter wore glasses at an early age, too, and cases where missing little kids are wearing glasses hit me hard for some reason. Their little smiling faces with glasses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sleuthy sleutherson View Post
    I feel the need to further comment about the statements given by LE in presser. I have no doubt in my mind that they have confirmation if he was or wasn't in one of the groups with a monitor viewing the other exhibits. I have no doubt in my mind they have confirmation that he did or did not have an appointment, this is part of their job to confirm these things. And the very vague he was seen at a later time in the morning by another student only adds to the shadiness of the timeline of his disapperance.

    If LE truely want the publics assitance in finding this little boy they should be releasing these very key, important details and they are not, which gives me the feeling they have a pretty good idea about what happened and they are just not ready to say yet until they have evidence to back it up and prove it.
    I agree, that LE knows those details. But the fact that they are saying nothing says nothing to me.

    I have seen it in my own city, where LE doesn't have a clue and says nothing. We have seen it on WS with Kayleah and Somer. LE didn't have a clue, yet they withheld info that would have made a huge difference in finding the perp much sooner, IMHO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CementPond View Post
    What if, and yes I realize this idea may seem WAAAAAAY out there, but, since everyone seems to think that LE seems to know something (i.e., reason for sending kids back to the school with no fears, don't want help, etc.)....what if Kryon did leave on his own and hid somewhere?

    And, what if during the search LE did find him but he pleaded with them not to take him back home/to school? Perhaps someone at home or at the school had been picking on him/abusing him and he is afraid to go back? Maybe they have him at a secure safe location pumping him for info before they make any further moves? Maybe that's why they seem to know something, don't want any help with the search, etc.?

    Maybe just wishful thinking on my part that he's at least alive? So sad.
    I don't think they would fly in FBI for that scenario.


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    As far as a press conference tonight... I have had the live feed up since 7:30pm Oregon time.... nothing but traffic cameras. I had hoped for maybe a 9pm one, thinking because of the debriefing at 6pm they might be delayed. But I have not seen anything yet. I am not sure what time the local news is there... obviously not 9pm, so I guess 10pm.

    There is a new article: http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne...jy3W5FG4Q.cspx

    I also agree that it seems as if they are treating this as a case in which they do not need much help for an endangered missing child. It reminds me of a case in which they already knew the outcome and they were just awaiting confirmation... I don't think that they believe there is a threat or abductor out there that took this child, so they are not worried about the other children. I also don't think they believe he wandered away since they have scaled back that search. All of that concerns me.


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    True. I forgot about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I don't think they would fly in FBI for that scenario.


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    I think that perhaps it is a good thing that they are having school tomorrow.

    For one reason, to disrupt a child's routine can be quite traumatic by itself. And for another, it can give the FBI a chance to observe a somewhat "normal" day at the school. Check and see if any teachers, staff, or even older students are missing or acting oddly.

    That being said, I would not blame a parent one bit for keeping their kids home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    As far as a press conference tonight... I have had the live feed up since 7:30pm Oregon time.... nothing but traffic cameras. I had hoped for maybe a 9pm one, thinking because of the debriefing at 6pm they might be delayed. But I have not seen anything yet. I am not sure what time the local news is there... obviously not 9pm, so I guess 10pm.

    There is a new article: http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne...jy3W5FG4Q.cspx

    I also agree that it seems as if they are treating this as a case in which they do not need much help for an endangered missing child. It reminds me of a case in which they already knew the outcome and they were just awaiting confirmation... I don't think that they believe there is a threat or abductor out there that took this child, so they are not worried about the other children. I also don't think they believe he wandered away since they have scaled back that search. All of that concerns me.
    If you can believe the media from this article. There is no Kyron, but there may not be an abduction? What is this, a balloon boy story?

    There has been no Amber Alert issued. Gates said Amber Alerts work because they provide people with information about vehicles or suspects. Late Sunday, Sheriff Staton said they still did not have a vehicle description or any specific suspects, and for the matter, he could not even confirm whether there had even been an abduction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    Was that it for updates for today? Seems too late now...almost 9pm out west...

    Was Le's sighting of Kyron later in the AM by a child, I wonder? If so, how sure can they be? And if he was by a door was he waiting for a ride? And where had he been for that hour? So many questions still...why can't they say if he had an appointment? This makes it sound like he did and was waiting to be picked up?
    From presser, maybe someone else can post what they understand him saying.

    -Was seen at a late hour of morning.

    -Got no information from children that he was at school beyond when he was last seen.

    http://www.kptv.com/kyron-horman/index.html


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    Wow it has literally taken me 3 hours to catch up only to find out that nothing new has been found out. I think it is a tactic to hold school tommorrow, and a very good one, by LE however I as a parent would NOT send my child back to school. But from LE's perspective, they may not have been able to get very far with the interviews today or someone provided them with information that they beleive is crediable and want everyone to go back to school tommorrow and get people talking. Kids feel safer with thier friends, can you imagine being thier age and having to go talk to the police about your missing classmate. They are probably hoping someone talks.
    I dont think they are thinking this is a stranger abduction and I think they are fairly confident that the kids are safe. I am begining to think LE beleives this involved bullying or hazing of some sort by a fellow student... Does anyone recall a few months ago, the teenager that killed her sisters play friend by luring her in the woods and she already had the grave dug. LE combed the woods and it wasn't until she took them to the body the girl was found even with dogs. So it is possable for a kid to pull this off.
    I just do not think that LE beleives there is a kidnapper on the loose. The Only other thing in my mind that makes since is he wandered off Like Nadia, because if he left with the mom somebody would have seen that, and I doubt she would so confident to call the school claiming he is missing and not know if anyone scene. Same with a stranger abduction or anyone taking him, someone would have seen it.
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    For anyone that missed it there is a slideshow at this link of Kyron's classroom and science project.


    http://www.kptv.com/slideshow/news/23806039/detail.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I agree, that LE knows those details. But the fact that they are saying nothing says nothing to me.

    I have seen it in my own city, where LE doesn't have a clue and says nothing. We have seen it on WS with Kayleah and Somer. LE didn't have a clue, yet they withheld info that would have made a huge difference in finding the perp much sooner, IMHO.
    I believe that, but drives me crazy. Why wouldn't LE release important details to help them or give the public a since of security, like you don't need to worry about your child, we know what happened here. I still don't doubt though that they may have an idea and are not releasing the details for a specific reason, I see it going either way. When a child is missing it is frustrating and heartbreaking.

    I would hope LE would do the right thing and give out as many details as possible but there could always be reason why they don't. IDK, just don't know very much about how they operate and I'm sure it is different in every case and I'm sure they have a lot of hearsay and rumor they cannot confirm but may actually be helpful in the investigation and so they don't release it to the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RubyRed View Post
    From presser, maybe someone else can post what they understand him saying.

    -Was seen at a late hour of morning.

    -Got no information from children that he was at school beyond when he was last seen.

    http://www.kptv.com/kyron-horman/index.html
    I am guessing that if the information came from a child, it is backed up. Such as "I saw Kyron at the end of the hall as we were walking into class to start class." Or "I saw Kyron when I went to go to the bathroom after we did roll call." Something where the time can be narrowed down pretty close with the teacher's help.

    Though, I would still find it odd that he'd be there to a "late hour" in the morning and not go to class. But I think that's probably where the time line information comes from.


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