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    It seems that Kyron's step-mother TH felt the need to clarify her being on her FB account... (comment section) http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...on_horman.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by darlin gal View Post
    She has a post at 8:01 AM for Treasure Island
    (before she took him to school)

    She posted pictures at 1:21 PM (the pictures she took of the science fair that morning)

    She doesn't make another post till Saturday at 10:16 AM
    Asking people not to listen to the news.
    In the photo of Kyron in front of his science project, why are there not a lot of other parents, teachers, and kids? You can see one child in the background, but no others. Where is everyone? What time did she actually drop off Kryon?
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/kyron...ry?id=10836677

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomoresorrow View Post
    It seems that Kyron's step-mother TH felt the need to clarify her being on her FB account... (comment section) http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...on_horman.html
    She never came out and SAID he was missing or asked for help! She just said not to listen to the media!

    What happened to not talking to anyone?? I would consider responding to a news article to be talking to the media.

    I hope, that wasn't actually her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raeann View Post
    The step brother didn't live there, he was reported to live with grandparents and attend school several hours away as I recall, so probably did not have friends there at that school district.
    The stepbrother lives with Kyron's stepmother's parents, in Roseburg, OR. That's a bit odd in itself, though of course there may be a perfectly normal explanation that we just don't know. At any rate, looking at the map, it appears to be about 275 miles away. A bit of a hike, but 100 miles or so closer than Kyron's mother, who lives in Medford, and who Kyron reportedly visits every other week. But unless there some huge backstory re the stepbrother that we haven't heard, presumably he visits his mother fairly regularly (or vice versa), and his mother is functioning as Kyron's primary mother. Looking at the map, if the stepmother is involved in shuttling Kyron to visit his mother, it would make sense to stop along the way to visit her son and her parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    In the photo of Kyron in front of his science project, why are there not a lot of other parents, teachers, and kids? You can see one child in the background, but no others. Where is everyone? What time did she actually drop off Kryon?
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/kyron...ry?id=10836677
    I noticed that,one parent in one of the articles said there was alot of parents and she didn't know them all.She was busy looking at the projects,not thinking to look around.I mean you wouldn't be,who would think something like this anyway.It started at 8:00,so I'm wondering if he was one of the last kids in the science fair room before going to class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winterrose View Post
    I noticed that,one parent in one of the articles said there was alot of parents and she didn't know them all.She was busy looking at the projects,not thinking to look around.I mean you wouldn't be,who would think something like this anyway.It started at 8:00,so I'm wondering if he was one of the last kids in the science fair room before going to class.
    Or was he at school waaaaaaay too early. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post

    One thing that has me really scratching my head here is that everyone is being so nonchalant there seems to be no real since of urgency. No one is screaming WHERE IS THIS BABY!!!, no one is panicky, LE seems to be going through the motions or the (appearance) of searching but nothing full scale like hey there is a 7 year old missing!!

    Where is the urgency?
    I agree...except I have seen it before.

    Since I live right here... I have to say... It was like this with Ethan Stacy.

    Especially when contrasted with the few other missing children in the same state. When we compared Destiny Norton or Elizabeth Smart with Ethan Stacy... it was immediately obvious something was very wrong in the Ethan Stacy situation. There initially appeared to be a major search... then it was obvious there wasn't even before they publicly admitted they had quit looking.

    This feels a lot like that situation. The difference being with Ethan it was simply more obvious. A smaller area, impossible to hide a large scale remote mountain search like that. In Portland... it might be easier to hide that kind of search...but here it just wasn't going to happen.

    In this situation I am not so close to it. But I contrast it with Zoey Dorsey in the same state. The search did not slow down although that was a shorter time period. Nadia was a different state, but again the search did not slow down and that was a much longer time period.

    Something is different here than just a child wandering off... or they would still be frantically searching those woods.

    I swear there is another case where the child was found alive...that this situation reminds me of...the lack of urgency... but I can't think of it right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomoresorrow View Post
    It seems that Kyron's step-mother TH felt the need to clarify her being on her FB account... (comment section) http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...on_horman.html
    Thanks I just read that.

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    Where is the father? Has the father made any statements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    Or was he at school waaaaaaay too early. (?)
    That could be also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaylynnCouture View Post
    It depends what kind of phone she has. SmartPhones (such as Androids, Blackberries, etc) have capabilities to play certain games on Facebook via mobile phones (not sure if Treasure Isle is one of them though) but she'd have to have an upgraded data plan and everything in order to do that (aka- she'd need to REALLY love gaming because those data plans start at like $15 extra per month)
    Her husband (Kyron's father) works for Intel. This may be a pretty techie family. And for a lot of people $15 a month is no big deal.

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    Noticed that her comment (re: my post above) has generated a response. Sorry to say it but she just opened a can of worms. There will be many more, not-so-nice comments to come... Isn't there some kind of support agency for the parents of a missing child that advise the parents what to do/not to do at the onset of their child's disappearance when it comes to public scrutiny? If not, there should be! JMO ~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    Where is the father? Has the father made any statements?
    His Facebook is private. I'm beginning to think the stepmother's should be also.

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    I really doubt that the comment on the news story is from the step mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    She never came out and SAID he was missing or asked for help! She just said not to listen to the media!

    What happened to not talking to anyone?? I would consider responding to a news article to be talking to the media.

    I hope, that wasn't actually her.
    I hope not either MsFacetious.

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    Where could this little guy be? Today and tonight they are still working the 2 square mile grid of an area close to the school.

    The 11pm news mainly said that the FBI has sent a CARD team to join the investigation and that a FBI profiler has been flown in from Quantico. That is new news from what KOIN implied.

    I don't think it is a stretch to think Kyron could still be alive {even tho that belies the statistics}. I know hikers, auto accident victims, etc have been rescued many days after their going missing from areas in Oregon. The rain has been down pouring at times today and yesterday, but it isn't really cold outside. I just am hoping so bad he is lost somewhere and that minds focusing on an alive Kyron might somehow help him being found. xox

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    Quote Originally Posted by DairyGirl View Post
    I really doubt that the comment on the news story is from the step mother.
    If it's not from her, it's from someone who knows her. Her license plate on her car is RDSQRL (Red Squirrel).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    Where is the father? Has the father made any statements?
    No, neither has the mother, or stepmother other than Facebook and possibly a comment on a news article. Nobody in the family has made a public plea, or thank you or statement at all.

    Today it was said that they were too traumatized and not ready to speak yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomoresorrow View Post
    Noticed that her comment (re: my post above) has generated a response. Sorry to say it but she just opened a can of worms. There will be many more, not-so-nice comments to come... Isn't there some kind of support agency for the parents of a missing child that advise the parents what to do/not to do at the onset of their child's disappearance when it comes to public scrutiny? If not, there should be! JMO ~
    Yes Nomoresorrow, there is. I don't have the link here right now but will find it in a bit. Beth Holloway {Natalee's mother} has a new website where any family of a missing child can get all the help and answers they need in dealing with everything that might come up.


    Here ya go:: Natalee Holloway Resource Center
    http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

    Here's an example of how they help, giving info on topics like this:

    Please contact us for any of the following reasons:

    Did a loved one go missing and you aren't sure who to contact or how to proceed?

    Do you need help coordinating efforts of finding a missing loved one?

    Do you need help coordinating media efforts to find a missing loved one?

    Do you need a traveling safe program for a group of students?

    Do you have high-risk students that need an educational curriculum regarding law enforcement?



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    Quote Originally Posted by winterrose View Post
    Saw the photo of him and Terri's father,so he's close to his grandparents,which he's always known.He was a baby when they got married.I wonder why the older boy is with the grandparents instead of either parent.

    And is Terri and Kaine raising the boy in the science fair pic and bowling photo.Photo says it's his first time bowling,looks like Kyron is helping him hold the ball,sweet little child.
    The OregonLive article also says the older boy has lived with Terri's parents "for the past few months". I have seen where he lived before that -- presumably either with Terri and her husband (and thus with Kyron), or with his biological father, who also lives somewhere in the same general area. If the older boy changed residences during the school year, that would be very odd, and suggest that "something happened". But hard to know what "the past several months" means -- could mean the past 9 months, and thus since the beginning of the school year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pensfan View Post
    In the photo of Kyron in front of his science project, why are there not a lot of other parents, teachers, and kids? You can see one child in the background, but no others. Where is everyone? What time did she actually drop off Kryon?
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/Media/kyron...ry?id=10836677
    That little girl and the adult in the checked shirt with her (I think that's an adult in a checked shirt) who are in the background can vouch for what time Kyron and his stepmom were in the room. I sure wish there was a clock in the picture.

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    what if.....

    he didn't want to perform at the talent show? and wandered off to explore instead of performing? or was hiding out until it was done, and someone grabbed him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    If it's not from her, it's from someone who knows her. Her license plate on her car is RDSQRL (Red Squirrel).
    Thanks, but how did you know that? I was wondering what those letters meant. Do we really ever know who is writing those anonymous comments? And why would a friend write it in the first person as if the stepmom is writing it?

    ETA Just wanted to make clear, pns, that I don't mean "how do you know that" like I'm challenging you. I mean it like, "Wow, how did you find that out?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomoresorrow View Post
    I hope not either MsFacetious.
    I can't even explain WHY that comment got such a reaction out of me.

    Probably because if it WAS her... she took the time to defend HERSELF...actually said something... but not to thank the people searching for her kid. Or to ask people to keep looking. Or to express her love for him, how she misses him. Or to clarify the mistakes in the media.

    Just felt the need to defend herself.

    I want to believe she is at home crying and wondering if Kyron is cold, hungry or scared... I have to agree though that because of the plate number (which I believe was in a picture on her facebook if I remember correctly) it looks like it is her... but I am going to hope it is not...because that really, really REALLY made me angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
    Thanks, but how did you know that? I was wondering what those letters meant. Do we really ever know who is writing those anonymous comments? And why would a friend write it in the first person as if the stepmom is writing it?

    ETA Just wanted to make clear, pns, that I don't mean "how do you know that" like I'm challenging you. I mean it like, "Wow, how did you find that out?"
    I'm tellin ya, I've got a PhD in Hormanology. I've read her FB back to the beginning several times, and that stuck out to me... the REDSQRL thing. It's buried waaaaaay back in her FB, but she got a red Mustang, and that's the personalized license plate on the car.

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